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Brand Loyalty Is Killing The Gaming Community

Rich Drummond of Richie D Rants says:

"Fan boys, console wars and blind hatred. These were all things that were absent years ago in the gaming community compared to what we endure on a daily basis on the internet. Why is this so present in the gaming community today? Why do people adamantly defend a big corporation? Why did the gaming community turn to this sort of thing? In this video I dive into just that."

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SCW19823692d ago

Sorry but they have never been absent everyone just has a online voice now instead of picking fights on the playground between Nintendo and Sega.

imXify3692d ago

I was about to say the same thing. Internet.

darthv723692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

brand loyalty is understandable to a point. Like you have had such good luck with a car mfg or you like a certain mfg of tv. But that type of loyalty is where you generally keep to yourself and you arent out there harping on how every other brand sucks.

Even (some, not all) sports fans can be respectable in the space of other fans. Trash talk is understandable especially when two teams are playing against each other and its all in good fun. There are times when others take things too far and its really sad when that happens.

With video games....it can be just as toxic. The unhealthy part is when people cant simply like what they like. they have to tear down the opposition.

I drive a dodge but i dont hate on ford or GM or imports. I like samsung phones but i dont hate on iphone or HTC. I like LG tv but i dont hate on sony or Vizio.

If i dont like something, i dont buy it. I wont hate on the next guy because he does. That's not my place. To each their own.

starchild3692d ago

This was a good video. It's true that there has always been fanboyism in videogames, but it has gotten exponentially worse over the past few generations.

N4g_null3692d ago

Things like this get worst with age. It use to be a lot of mature older gamers now kids are yelling gay, f this and that over these online networks. This has lowered the expectations of what we expect from fellow gamers. Then these people get jobs in the industry and produce crap. Then they get mad at the world.

Lots of gamers that loose a lot do end up mad at the world.

Online gaming has ruined alot.

xHeavYx3692d ago

Isn't this the guy who made a video about how PS+ is better than Xbox Live or something like that?
I do agree that favoritism has always existed, but not only in regards to video games

creeping judas3692d ago

Agreed, because we all know GMC truck is better than a Ford or Dodge truck!!

The funny thing is after 27 years of driving I finally was able to purchase a full sized truck, and I kind of love it. So I went to a GMC fan based forum, just to see what people were saying about it. And, the same kind of fanatical fanboyism exists outside of N4G. So the console fanboys are not unique, they are just an extension of their passion.

static52453692d ago

I posted this in another article seems fitting here too

Whatever happened having it being about the games. I'm tired of these $ony and Xbots attacks. Pick the console you like and just play.. have fun. But everyone wants to attack the next person.. Some to the point of delusional (not naming names but we all know the livejournal).

There's genocide and people starving and dying out there, all we can fight about is our HD experience.. First world problems I guess

ArchangelMike3692d ago

Brand loyality is the other half of what makes gaming so much fun. C'mon tell me you don't enjoy it. You online gaming journo's love it. Whole careers are built around it.

Without brand loyality aka the console war, there would'nt be such competition between the big three.

We all love it, be honest!

FragMnTagM3692d ago

Speak for yourself. I firmly dislike everything to do with the "console wars." It is a huge waste of time and I would like to see it go away.

FragMnTagM3692d ago

I do remember that a little bit back in the day, but it was nowhere near as bad as it is today, internet or not.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi3692d ago

Look... I would love to own every console but I simply don't have the funds. If I have to choose one then I'm gonna stick to what I know, and has never let me down. Now excuse me... I have to go get Ps4 tattooed on my arm.

Sci0n3692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

I agree and I was always the kid that proudly stated that I have both and enjoy both equally. This time around I can't say I feel the same way about being a multi console owner. Its PS all the way for me, I gave microsoft a shot with the 360 and after going threw the rrod fiasco and experiencing there screwed up policies I said to myself never again will they ever get a red cent of mines. Look at microsofts anticonsumer policies and how out of touch with gamers they are. They emphasized tv at the last E3 and force a camera on its consumers that not everyone is interested it. What was real scary was MS's drm policies before the internet explded and made them restructure there plans. Microsoft is single handedly holding gaming back and tried to single handedly kill gamimg as we know it. Its a good thing gamers are waking up now and getting tired of being suckered and pay walled to deah. Brand loyalty is fine the disgusting thing is denial.

medman3692d ago

There will always be brand loyalty, but brand loyalty does not mean blind loyalty. The fact that the ps4 is outselling the xbone in the US and UK despite supply constraints points to that. Some gamers in those territories who were 360 only last gen have migrated to Sony's console this gen. I own a ps3, 360, and ps4. The ps4 was the clear choice to me because of my experience with both consoles and their exclusives last gen. Sony killed it, especially the last few years before the ps4 release. Microsoft exclusives were severely lacking. So the ps4 was my first purchase because the experiences I had with games from their first party developers were much better than what Microsoft had to offer. The quantity, and quality, of the free games offered by psplus also swayed that decision. Those are the things that made my decision. By the time the specs for both consoles were revealed and it became apparent the ps4 had the power advantage, that was icing on the cake as my decision had already been made based on exclusives and psplus. I believe many other gamers chose similarly for those reasons. That is not brand loyalty. That is choosing what I believe is the best gaming system on the planet, with the best developers making the best games with the best free game offerings. The decision was easy.

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admiralvic3692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

Yes / No.

Brand preference (most people simply prefer a brand, they don't just buy 1 system and everything for that system forever) is a problem, but it is one that always has and always will exist. The main reason why it's so prominent today, is simply because there are more lines of communication than in the past and systems are way more complex. Like, it wasn't until the last generation that we really saw consoles step away from being gaming machines and become more of a media hub. Since more and more options came into play, we started to see people looking for more and more things and now vast differences causing there to be constant compare and contrast articles, since this stuff matters to someone.

However, this isn't all a bad thing either. Because of people complaining about various things, you have companies constantly working to be better. This lead to several good and innovating things and is the main reason why monopolies are bad. Each company and their fans push one another to be better or try new things.

So while this stuff can be extremely negative, it can also be somewhat positive too.

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt3692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

not only Brand... but also a Team, Sport, Country, Food, Phones, Websites...

so i dont understand why ppl complain about Fanboys like it only exists in the Gaming Community ..... they are everywhere

deal with that crap if you dont like it build your own cave and live in it

@Fireseed

it depends how you look at it..

if you a die hard Giants and/or Chelsea fan and you having a match against the Jets or in (soccer) Manchester United.. and the opposing team is Grabbing helmets and diving all over the place in the area what do you expect a fan to do not talk shit and call them out saying they suck for all the crap they are doing in the match of course if you are a Passionate fan you will say all those things. its part of the Passion you have for that certain product..

according to you Fans all over the sporting world are trolls and have interpersonal relationship problems..

according to me youre an idiot

Fireseed3692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

I'll lay it out real simple.

"I love my PS4, Sony is such a great company" <- Good

"I love my PS4, Sony is such a great company... the Xbox is horrible and people who chose picked the inferior and worse decision" <- Bad

The simple difference is it's great to have a preference. But at the same time putting down others just shows you as a weak, pathetic, insecure troll who has trouble with interpersonal relationships.

PoSTedUP3692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

lmao hahaha, word @ your edit. +bubs jersey.

i said the same thing in regards to comparing fanboyism to sports teams, years ago. havent gave a **** about these articles since and just read the comments.XD. but better way of putting it bro.

curtis923692d ago

It's something a lot deeper than brand loyalty and revolves around deep psychological issues. Something on the level of wanting to belong to the winning team and to feel like the winner. To feel justified and victorious. The internet has given people a platform from which to announce their allegiance and therefore they commit to that stance and wish the opposition harm. Before the internet, this behavior might have displayed itself somewhere else other than gaming, because before the internet people didn't spend so much time in pointlessly heated debates over brand allegiance and just enjoyed games.

iceman063692d ago

I agree to an extent. There have always been these "pointless and heated" debates. They just took place face to face. So, there was no internet to look up tedious stats and archived articles to fit your particular agenda. It was put up or shut up. Most of the times, people were shut up. The psychological thing is true. Nobody wants to be an outsider...well..except for the new hipster thing. LOL
In general it's bigger money spent on gaming and the need to justify the purchase. Couple that with the need to be on the winning team and boast about it and a venue for which to do it. A venue where you are completely anonymous. That's a recipe for creating some pretty contentious people.

wonderfulmonkeyman3692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

I'd say the problem stems less from having brand loyalty, and more from jerks not liking anyone having any brand loyalty that is different from their own.

In short, fan boys who hide behind screen names.

If they stripped the internet of anonymity for just a single month, then turned it back on without telling these jerks it was gone, half of them might not even return for fear of being forced to face some consequences for all of the crap they've spewed all over the internet in their years...

gpturbo813692d ago (Edited 3692d ago )

blind sheep that buy into the garbage the gaming media spews, are ruining the gaming community.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow113h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos11h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos9h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje9h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

Aphrodia1h ago

And what of the rights of the buyer? The ones that purchased this game with hard earned money? They bought a product that is now being changed into a different product. Surely you would stand up for them since you are about "rights"?

Christopher1h ago

***It's not their work to censor. ***

They own the IP. It's theirs too do with as they wish.

***It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score. ***

You got proof of this? And even if this were true, isn't it the developer right to want whatever an ESG score is?

***from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal. ***

Licensed music is always going to get changed unless they can afford to keep paying those fees sadly.

***Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people. ***

You do know in the original that the artwork is extremely pixelated so you can't even tell what it is, right? Shouldn't we then be arguing that they increased the detail of this artwork at all then? Why the remaster? Picasso got it right already with the original.

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Eidolon9h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum12h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola6h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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Aphrodia1h ago

And Lara Croft is also a mass murderer everywhere she goes. Why didn't they patch that out as well? See, anyone can spew pedantic BS.

CrimsonWing6959m ago

How is it not censorship? They are removing suggestive content due to not wanting to offend SJWs and woke people. They literally removed something already in the game that nobody even thought twice about just like a movie on cable television is edited for content… y’know, like literally removing scenes because of not wanting to offend a public audience? How is this different?

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SimpleDad8h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola6h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

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Christopher1h ago

Have fun falling off that cliff at the end of the slippery slope.

CobraKai8h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Christopher1h ago

Just FYI, every game has that right.

Killer2020UK7h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh7h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

Christopher1h ago

My thinking is that the original artworks might be community created.

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