Phil Spencer comments on the DirectX 12 resolution rumor.
Phil Spencer is ushering in a new age for the Xbox platform, one that could be appropriately titled ‘The Multi-Platform Age Of Xbox.’ It’s begun with four games coming to PlayStation and Nintendo consoles, and if recent reports are true, there’s many more to come.
Spencer dug a bit into why he’s leading Xbox in this new direction, and how part of this change comes from Gen Z buying habits, and the lack of growth in the console market.
Lmao
“It’s not our fault Xbox fans, we have no choice, blame yourselves or the young”
I thought he said a while back it was because of AAA budgets being so bloated or something
Apparently sea of theives was a huge successful on PS so I guessed the board has seen dollar signs and that small batch of games will probably Expand
Polygon spoke with Spencer during the annual Game Developers Conference, and though the conversation ranged from the possibility of a handheld console to the trouble with closed platforms, one theme was inescapable: What the hell is going on with the games industry? And how will video game makers and publishers — Xbox included — get out of it?
“You can’t succeed unless you draw in customers from other publishers and other platforms. And because you’re not finding new customers with the games that you’re building, everybody’s kind of fighting over the same-size pie.”
People are going to twist this into him saying that Sony is bad for exclusives but what he is really saying... what he is trying to shout from the hills to the Xbox faithful, is that Xbox can not remain exclusive if you want them to ever take risks or make big games again. The back and forth game the PR team plays with the fanatics has to stop. Spencer doesn't know what Sony or Nintendo is going to do , but he is taking the Xbox games and putting them everywhere and thats how its gonna be. Going multiplat is the only way to GROW. Full stop that is what he is saying.
@Eonjay, Phil Spencer has a lying problem. He will not be honest about anything especially about the failure of xbox under his leadership or how his decisions contributed to xbox current predicament. He will not change, he continues to give these interviews that have no basis in reality. Taking anything this man has to say as being credible is a fools errand.
"Lying" might be a bit much.
I can't say he lies, but he is absolutely intentional with the indirect language he uses.
You can't turn off your brain with him because, while he comes across as being "down to earth", he frequently tells you what he means indirectly. I think people just let their guard down because of the way he presents himself and that's a strategy in itself.
you're supposed to lie during pr talks, nothing of note there. Same with any company, wether I like them or not, I will always take any form of pr talk with the biggest grain of salt.
Guy’s a moron and a liar.. he’s just lazy, prefers using his money by buying other publishers and make them create content for him.. that’s about it.
That pretty much kills creativity and we can easily see it by how irrelevant his brand has become
Nintendo has been creating incredible software for so many years, earning so much from that and they aren’t going nowhere.
Good news is that if you turn everything Spencer says upside down, he is actually very informative and consistent. 😝
Phil is right about the limit on growth of game hardware. The PlayStation + Xbox install base has not changed in 10 years. Nintendo’s marketshare with Switch is about 100M units less than its marketshare was with Wii and DS. Any growth in PC gaming is at the expense of console gaming. Microsoft can only make more by selling more games and they can only do that by going multi platform.
Thats actually an interesting point. We all have the perception that gaming has grown massively in the last 20 years but I guess it only really has if you start to factor mobile into it.
I don't think Phil Spencer is the one you want to ask this question. Are you sure he wasn't the one who asked it?
I won't bash Phil as much as I think he and his leadership team deserve, however, the data is showing the XBOX WW sales are nearly life support levels. Redfall failed - Star Field decent. What about those issues?!
For a Todd Howard game, I thought Starfield was below average and overhyped
Nothing is really wrong with the industry. More like: what the hell are video game makers doing? I’ve very rarely have I seen the disconnect between what gamers want to play, and what makers are trying to sell this wide.
What's the point on invest $500 on a ecosystem, that you will have on another console plus the other console exclusives. Why this made sense for Phil, get new customer but losing the old ones.
Why did the Insider Gaming article on this topic get approved then failed then replaced with a polygon article? The Polygon article was the duplicate but the Insider Gaming got marked as one instead and moved to failed.
Because this is the original source. That actual polygon interview. The one that was failed was a SWAS story of that interview. You must post the original interview first, and then after, i think it's 12 hours, that after its been published for 12 hours you can post a SWAS submission. SWAS = Story Within A Story
I'm so use to seeing second and third hand articles on here that I never knew that was a thing, thanks for the answer.
Just FYI it's 6 hours.
@MrDead,
SWAS means that the original story must be posted first. It is a story about one aspect of the original story. It's not the same story.
A second hand story/ third hand is the same story as the first.
Dude needs to shut up and focus on doing his job for once. He always talks about what's good for gaming in general despite having so completely proven he has no idea how to make xbox successful at all. He talks about ballooning budgets but will not talk about his boneheaded decision to give every xbox 1st party game away on gamepass. How will that move make it possible to support any game production especially the most expensive ones like halo infinite, Philip?
Phil and Xbox are big part of what’s wrong. GaaS is mostly the other part.
“You can’t succeed unless you draw in customers from other publishers and other platforms"
oraybe, if you actually make games that are not broken, people will flock in and play them.
but i guess buying up stuff is easier.
Phil is definitely not then one to talk about this.
No matter how you feel about Phil, the proof of upheaval in gaming, is in the layoffs. they have been dropping left and right for multiple years. The saying in the industry used to be that it was recession proof, not anymore. We also see it in how long it takes to make a triple A game now a days. The cost have gone up significantly and I don’t see the trend reversing. Some of his insights have validity outside of the fanboyish line of how it’s all Phil’s fault. I guess it’s his fault Sony completely shutdown London studios right after the head of Sony visited? No, this goes way beyond Xbox and Phil. I guess some on this site need a good villain for their narratives. Peace
People seem to have missed that PlayStation has largely stagnated in its client base since the PS2, it's by far the biggest player but in a pool that's not grown significantly since the 2000s
Agree, PlayStation 5 will never exceed the ps2 in a major way. If consoles kept pushing the total install base up every generation, then you could point to growth. The reality of today is there are so many different devices you can game on compared to the ps2 era. Back then it was pc, which a majority of people didn’t own and weren’t purchasing to game on. Of course consoles, and that was the majority of the market. Back then you could have a small team and create a triple A game.
While all of this happening, PC gaming is having really solid, consistent growth. Seems like consoles may have already peaked. It's clear from both Sony and MS that the business is unsustainable in its current form.
I read an article with Phil that Gen Z want there games to be able to be played anywhere thats what the market research is showing, no stand alone console, hence the Xbox games going to PS and PC and streaming service that is gamepass. But this is not what the true xbox fans want they are screwing over their core fanbase the oldies....when the PS Pro comes out im thinking ill put the ol xbox away and jump ship
Phil Spenser damage control from all the Sweet Baby collab news trending this week
So basically Phil is admitting that XBOX exclusives are a thing of the past? Also I find it amazing that according to him when XBOX isnt doing well, the industry isn't doing well. Surprised MS is even allowing him to be interviewed.
Well you're right I guess it's going so well at Sony
let's see:
- Mass layoff
- Studios closure
- Cancellation of several games
- PSVR 2 is already the next VITA
- not meeting console sales expectations and rushing a PS5 pro
Yep, all the signs of a healthy industry.
Sony have faired better then others because of their growth in the industry.
A lot of what's happening is due to more and more being owned by less and less, these goliath publishers are looking to make more profits than previous years and when they don't job cuts happen. They are still making untold billions, but if it's less then last year or not as much as they predicted workers get fired... CEO's and shareholders will still have their pockets lined at the expense of the workforce. This is capitalism, huge companies that need to consume more and more to support their eternal growth.
This is why people argue that companies such as Microsoft, Amazon, etc need to be broken up.
Mass layoffs industry wide more layoffs at MS acquired publishers than Sony.
Studios closed, yes, but some teams assimilited in other units.
Several GaaS games, of no consequence to those majority that buy a PlayStation for their spectacular single player story based games.
PSVR 2 was always going to be a niche product, wheres MS VR goggles? Oh wait, you need to actually have SOLD consoles to justify R and D
PS5 Pro is not rushed it was hinted at almost two years ago but admittedly I classify that as niche too and will not be getting one as I'm perfectly satisfied with base PS5.
Sorry PS is outselling Series 3 to 1.
Sorry XBOX exclusives are coming to PS5.
Sorry gamepass has effectively capped XBOX in the knees.
Sorry 80 Billion plus dollars of acquisitions cannot shift the needle for XBOX.
Sorry Phil has lied to his supporters and probably knew for some time that MS would go the 3rd party publisher route.
In my opinion, the issue here is that Phil seems to have no thesis, only ever swifting strategies and narratives instead.
They delivered a next gen console with no exclusives and the draught carried over for 2 years. When they actually released games, many of them were mediocre or below expectations (Refall and Starfield come to mind although I confess having great fun as solo player in Redfall with Jacob).
We were then told that games are coming because of acquisitions and instead we are getting multi platform games due to the rising costs.
PS5 was judged for its low output of exclusives even though it released many more (and highly more successful games), why MS shouldnt be judged accordingly when it performed considerably worse?
Even during 2025, with no major first party exclusives, Sony treats their fans with games like Final Fantasy, Helldivers 2, Rise of Ronin and still has Silent Hill 2, Stellar Blade and Concorde scheduled.
One has to look at Nintendo which has been releasing nearly 12 games per year for Switch (one for each month) thus keeping gamers engaged to see where its success lie. There is always something to buy.
My point is, consoles are about games. Had they invested in supporting their ecosystem (PC+Xbox), they would not have the need to go multi platform and change the narrative from exclusives are important, to exclusives are no longer viable.
The only reason Xbox has failed again with there console is because they have no must have games exclusive to Xbox they all go on pc.. if they had like 2 killa apps every year that solely exclusive to Xbox then it would have flew of the shelves!
The management haven't got a clue what they are doing! Sony are more successful because they do that and release them on pc years down the line!
How can you grow the console market by doing the exact same thing but 50% worse than the PC market? As Linus' video showed, you can build a used PC for the same money, but it's 50% more powerful than the PS5. Practically all games are on PC. A console gives you virtually no advantage...yes, convenience and system size maybe, but resolutions and framerates are severely limited and the games are all the same. Game Pass is also on PC (speaking of Microsoft). I've been a long time Xbox fan and am seriously considering moving to PC as I'm sick of the 30fps and other limitations. To grow the console market, you need to do something that PC doesnt have...it's that simple. As soon as you release this new magical thing on PC, we'll be in the same situation again.
I agree with everything you just said. However, There are still reasons to own a PS5 and a Switch.
Yes Sony release old games on pc at some point. Personally speaking I'm not the type of person who can simply wait 2 or 3 years for a game.
Someone please shut this man up. You lost and you're terrible at your job. I can't stand his constant spin and corpo speak.
Microsoft has shared plans regarding bringing the Call of Duty series to Xbox Game Pass & has shared some insight on the console market.
Since Xbox Series console sales are even weaker than Xbox One's, stagnant is a bit misleading - it's shrinking!
Nintendo would disagree with him, over the last six years it’s had fantastic growth both with Switch hardware and software.
Sony would disagree with him, it launched a new console during the pandemic and eventually got it leading the market in new sales and its subscription service and multi platform game sales are thriving on PS5.
It seems like Phil Spencer is reflecting on stagnant sales of the company he has led for a decade and is disingenuously projecting its failings as a comment on the state of the entire home console industry.
By that argument, every single Sony and Nintendo console have sold less than the PS2 and DS so they are also shrinking…
I really dont understand why people here keep saying that Nintendo and Sony are proof what he is saying is wrong, both companies most successful devices are 20 years old, and considering that the DS came out at practically the same time as the the Wii, the Switch basically has to compete against both
Assuming the PS5 is literally at the half way point and Sony is already starting to reduce sales forecasts, its likely to at best do around the same numbers as PS4, which are great sales numbers, but not showing growth in market size, if anything, if Xbox is selling less than last gen and Sony sells the same, again they actually failed to capture that market Xbox lost
Yes, Xbox as a brand to sell consoles has gone downhill and they have been terrible at it since the 360 gen ended, but everyone else is literally selling the same or even less consoles than they were 20 years ago, its literally what a stagnant market is…
Software sales are not quite the same as the console side, though given how expensive games have become, being a million seller is usually not enough anymore anyway
When a company has no vision and the only matter of interest is profit, all the moves it makes are NOT for the players nor for the evolution of the industry, They have played it safe and brought no innovation and relied exclusivelly on a lame subscription model that is backfiring on them on all directions. Typical american corporate greed !
That's is on purpose no matter what Spencer says about being committed to "physical media" the CEO of MS has stated the company wants all of it's properties in the cloud and they want every thing digital because then it's a subscription service not ownership. It's a corporate mandate and he just like the Wins team have to comply with the corporate vision. So its by design, this so all to push people further and further to digital only. Mattrick tried it too fast and this is slow death by a thousand cuts. They bought all those studios to bolster game pass not so they could be multiplatform. The multiplatform is so the FTC and others don't claim monopoly on them.
I’m not sure why Xbox fans don’t demand that MS have a VR headset. It’s so strange.
Come to think of it, it’s a sign that MS wants out of console market and into service only future. In the past, this would have been blasphemy to console gaming players…
It's not profit that drives them, it's control, they want to control gaming the way they control PC.
I'm Pro playstation as many on here know but laden and Andrew's both said the same.
“SURPRISE “ said no one after reading this
“Spencer mentioned that Microsoft’s intent is to have the full portfolio of games from ZeniMax, Activision Blizzard and Xbox Game Studios day one on its premium subscription service”
Another 180* turn or does that means CoD on PlayStation+ premium day one “free” as well 😱.
A billion dollars franchise dropping to a few millions, this will be the final nail in the eyes of the all powerful investors.
A lot of folks like to point to Nintendo as a sign of growth but Nintendo only has one console now compared to two back in the Wii / DS days. Overall, Nintendo is selling 100M fewer units than a couple of generations ago.
PS5 is growing marketshare at the apparent expense of Xbox. Overall the number of potential PS5 and Xbox owners has not increased in the last two generations.
Nah, he's not wrong. Though it's been longer than 6 years. The console market has been comprised of roughly 200-250 million gamers for decades. It hasn't actually grown at all. Market share between the 3 manufacturers change but the overall size of the pie is still the same.
The PS3, 360, and Wii totalled out to around 275 million units. Considering the 360s RROD and PS3s YLOD and accounting for replacing broken systems, that would still be in the 200-250 million range.
The PS2, Xbox, and GameCube totalled out to just over 203 million. Bricked consoles were far less common that gen, though it could technically have been slightly under 200 million.
What's interesting is that the console market overall hasn't 'grown' but Xbox has shrunk while PS and Switch have grown to fill in their loss of market. So, yeah, he's right, but the phrasing is interesting since the console market has shrunk for them and grown for the others.
It’s still largely the same overall numbers of console gamers just that market share structure has changed.
Yes.... I just specified how that market share structure has changed. But, yeah, you can say exactly what I said with less info?
phil it has been like this because xbox brand hasn't been helping grow the industry. If xbox console were at 40 million instead of 26 we would have healthier industry
Console sales
10 million - Game Gear
10 million - TurboGrafx-16
9 million - Dreamcast
9 million - Sega Saturn
6 million - Series X
I don't see the point. Nothing would change.
Honestly, I don't see much difference between what the Xbox One was supposed to be under Mattrick and where they're going now.
People worried about used games going away. Now you've got game pass and you can't really share that.
People worried about DRM and always online. You need a connection for the sub service.
People were worried about MS spying on your consumption habits. They kind of come out and tell you as much with game statics, don't they?
I don't think Microsoft has changed their trajectory with the difference in leadership. They just package the same vision in a way that is now palatable.
I see them though. They've got the average muppet fooled, but not me.
They haven't because it wasn't Mattrick that was behind that it was a corporate strategy for all MS properties. Mattrick just tried to do it too quickly. Phil is lubing you up before he slides it in, while Mattrick just tried to ram it home dry, by pushing the BS "power of the cloud" nonsense.
I think it's going to be hard to salvage the brand at this point, no one is buying Xboxes, and it's got a reputation that there are more games on other systems. They would need to push out a slew of high quality exclusives over a consistent period of time, that means that they would have to change the way they manage the entire brand. I also don't think the Xbox has a killer app/game, I struggle to think of anything that I consider to be a big system seller for them after the 360 days (Halo isn't what it used to be).
Xbox's market is shrinking for sure, but PS5 is also behind PS4 (but just barely).
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On today's episode of "Phil says" we gleen "Insight"
From a guy that has been having to hide his brand's numbers for years because he hasn't managed anything besides trying to copying Netflix with the world's largest corporate spending account. Unlike Phil, Netflix actually manages to release quality in-house content and is a good place to find Japanese and Korean titles. But yes, the console market is a stable slow growing market. How about you leave it and go play on PC where your company that runs the world's computers already failed with their own storefronts and has to release their games on Steam.
for them? yes.
look no further than the ps4, ps5 and the switch and hpw successful they've been in the last 6 years
That's missing the point though. Even when you look at Playstation, the market leader, its not really grown the total pool of people buying their consoles. Its just capturing the majority of what has been a fairly stagnant market since the sixth generation.
Total sales across all relevant platforms
6th Gen- 209 Million Total: PS2 155m, Xbox 24m,GC 22m, DC 9m
7th Gen- 273 Million: PS3 87m, X360 84, Wii 101m
8th Gen- 289 Million: PS4 117m, XBO 58, Switch 125m
The only real driver of growth has been both the Wii and now the Switch. The others have just been split between Playstation and whoever the other competitor has been.
Both Sony and Nintendo have done great this gen, especially Nintendo. I mean anytime you sell more than 100 mil consoles in a generation is a huge accomplishment. I am sure PS5 will do more than 100 mil as well. I do however agree that the growth rate of the consoles has not seen a steady increase. This does not mean the consoles are not selling because the numbers for PS and Switch are amazing or the gaming market size as a whole is not growing, it means there are other means by which people can access games and that has caused the growth rate of the gaming industry to grow but the consoles themselves have not seen a huge growth rate. PS2 for now is the best selling console (switch might take that crown), so if we were to add all the PS2, Xbox, Gamecube (~204 mil total) add all PS3, X360, Wii (~274 mil) add PS4, Xbox1, WiiU (~189 mil) and the current gen with PS5, Xbox series, Switch (~210 and counting), the numbers for each generation has not grown as much. This is just my opinion based on the numbers I see, it does not make me right.
Off topic: Kuchiki, I thought you had died by your own bankai! lol
Xbox is the only one holding the gen back as far as growth rates are concerned. Both the PS5 and Switch are outpacing their predecessors and setting new sales records, which should mean higher growth rates. However because the XSX is selling slower than the XBO, it lowers the overall growth rate of the sector.
Xbox is the weakest link. Therefore, the claim is WRONG, the growth rate isn't stagnant for the other 2.
Maybe he is good in Diablo 4 (which is not difficult) but has the Xbox Head he is stagnant.
Some of you are missing the point. It's stagnant for Xbox PlayStation & Nintendo.
"Using consoles as an example, he said that there are around 200 million global households that will play console games, and that number hasn’t really changed in the last 5 or 6 years."
Basically it looks like all console makers can't get much above this number.
He is saying that because xbox has failed every gen, even if that was true , they are failing because they can't get even a small share of that 200 million households because Nintendo Sony and pc have it all, there is no room for xbox anymore
You do realize current Gen between Switch (140 million), PS5 (55 million) and Xbox Series (25 million) is already over 200 million right?! Maybe do some math
Right. It's a zero sum game - it's not entirely accurate but directionally close I guess.
So PS goal is to get a bigger slice of this fixed pie.
Xbox collapse will help with that. Post Xbox, they'll have to start looking to sway PC and Switch gamers to grow.
Everyone talks about mobile, but I don't understand what it takes to be successful in the mobile market in a big way. Like how do you repeat a Candy Crush? I don't think anyone knows tbh
Agreed, I think people still prefer the bar/pub, going out for a meal during there evenings etc.
Shawn layden has already stated it's been stagnant for everyone.
I think the main problem is 100 games a year releasing with casuals only buying 2 games a year and not being interested in many genres.
I personally like lots of games and buy 1 full price game every month and either a 3rd party or indie game too, but the casual is just playing Fortnite most of the year with fifa and cod in-between and nothing else.
I'm amazed more studios are not closing tbh cause some of the sales figures for indie and 3rd party games can't be meeting targets.
That's a bad take, your just trying to shift this away from Microsoft.
There was enough growth to drive an industry to record profits pretty much year after year. That was until Phil moved the industry to subscriptions which couldn't possibly pay for the types of development costs hat AAA games take.
This was a predictable outcome which myself and many others have been saying since game pass was announced, but of course constantly Microsoft and xbox fans like yourself refused and continue to refuse to take any responsibility or even admit what the problem is, and instead, as you just did, try to deflect the blame to anything but your own choices.
"He said around 200 Million but you're missing the point totally"
No its an idiotic take you're trying to run with. PS5 will reach 100+ million and if Xbox reaches say 50 million and Switch hits 150 million that's already 300+ million consoles. That means for the first time ever BOTH Nintendo and Playstation will have 100+ million sellers in the SAME generation. So he's already wrong on multiple accounts. The main point of 200 million console gamers literally goes down the drain.
Also consider this. Phil scoffs at 200 million console gamers and yet the biggest streaming platform has 200 million subscribers in Netflix. That's with billions of TVs, phones, PCs and consoles. So want to explain why topping out at about 200 million is a bad thing? You seriously think that Gamepass comes anywhere near Netflix type numbers ever? Netflix spends $10 billion a year for content. Disney will be in the black for the first time ever this summer has about 150 million subscribers. So explain to us again how 2 huge entities like Netflix and Disney available on literally billions of devices is a bad thing while your at it? If you think Gamepass can reach 100 million you're dreaming.
Just because the console market is not growing, that doesn't mean that it is not a viable market anymore. When new consoles drop, that 200 million potential buyers and that is a damn good market number as far as a hardware manufacturer is concerned. Xbox is just doing a bad job at trying to get those consumers to invest in their console(s).
Right...I think Spencer really means that there is a finite number of console buyers and most are choosing Playstation. I wish this guy would just shut up about telling us how the market is...
MS goal is to scorch console gaming and so they constantly want to diminish the value of consoles. That is their plan.
110%!! I said this a while ago, MS couldn't care less about the console space/industry especially now when the have already face the inevitable and had to throw the towel, they will gladly pick up their bags and leave the console space like it never happened and leave a whole mess behind because at the day they still got momma windows and its infinite cash flow.
And this year will be even worse for the green brand, those hardware and software numbers will keep shrinking.
You know things are really bad when the xbox series are on a steady path to sell less than the xbone.
Phil is laying the groundwork with excuses for why MS will get out of the console business
MS works overtime to prepare everyone for minimizing consoles, theor plan is to do away with console gaming because they couldn't dominate like they had hoped. Now they are trying to destroy console gaming to shake things up.
Yeah when your only strategy is to go full multi due to lack of support and digging into windows fund, you have to try your best to make a bad situation into a pr good talk situation. Tell the people who bought theirs games and consoles that this is very ,,, good.
Stagnant for Xbox man, because console market has grown plus consoles are being sold in more places than ever so... I don't what you're talking about Phil.
"Console Market Growth Is Stagnant Since 6 Years"
Hmm that's around the same time you pushed the industry into a subscription model... thus destroying the profitability of your own platform and causing the first stagnation of the industry in an industry that has seen constant growth for 40 years.
Take note Phil that it's your platform that is struggling the most, where sales of software have become practically non-existent, and profitability is unobtainable through software production.
And my personal note is that no matter what numbers he gives out in heavily manipulated investor presentations and sales numbers that sites like vgchartz project, things for xbox are much worse in reality
Phil has done nothing but drag the industry down, the recent merger layoffs only further show his effect on the industry and where things are headed under Microsoft leadership.
One thing people seem to forget is that XBOX made gamepass because they had shittty sales. Meanwhile PS4 sold almost 2 billion games (most from any console)
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It's software sales where they make money from (well at least SONY and Nintendo)
@Hofstaderman I came here to say just that!🤣
Xbox is out here trying to convince their fans that the
industry is collapsing because THEY can't convince anyone else to buy their products, so they need to buy the entire industry in the name of "growth."
This is getting pretty pathetic. Xbox has been having problems for GENERATIONS. The Xbox 360 had a major problem is Red Ring of Death. Everyone I knew that had one we'd be having conversations about how many Xbox's they'd been through, and everyone had it happen to at least one Xbox 360, and somehow, everyone seemed that was still all okay.
Following the Xbox One reveal, consumers really started to see Microsoft's business practices. I don't think everyone understands just what Microsoft has done with contributing, advocating, and evangelism of monotization of games, and practice Sony (as it seems at this point) and in the works of steering in the opposite direction and it seems Capcom, at least once, seemed to agree with. With the PS2 when Sony was King, you paid $39.99 for your game and you got it all and it was quality tested to no end, because there was no software updates. Today, Sony have several times (even in the midst of Games as a Service on the rise) supported that old way of thinking. Legends was free DLC for Ghost of Tsushima. Valhalla was free for God of War Ragnarok, and even RE4 VR was free DLC to PS5 owners of Resident Evil 4 Remake, as it should be. But, instead, we have $100 Digital Deluxe versions of a bunch of lousy digital content that doesn't merit the cost, it's content that should be included with the $69.99 price tag that just went up. Paid DLC, microtransactions, and lootboxes and card packs all are the result of Xbox business practices that have taken over, because Xbox had to find a way in to compete with Sony and Nintendo that had hard earned well established relationships with devs and publishers. Xbox was easily convinced, and saw eye to eye with fellow North American publishing company Electronic Arts and Activision as well as Ubisoft that advocated for it.
Now, that Xbox are being seen for who they really are, the sympathy wheel is starting to turn, by the sort that are the diehard Americans. Americans only watch baseball, eat apple pie, and will only buy a Ford, a Chevy, a Dodge, or a Harley Davidson. Suddenly, out of knowhere, because Xbox is choosing to flounder, and has been, now everyone expects it of Sony. Gamers have also tucked Nintendo aside considering them as non-existent in the console wars and leaving them in the shadows, that's it time to bring them back to the forefront and part of the conversation again as Xbox's troubles seem to be blamed on Sony, that without Xbox there's no competition, which is crap. Valve are PlayStation's competition on PC (which has been that way forever. Gabe Newell has ALWAYS been anti Sony and always advocated for Xbox, regardless of who has the most reliable hardware), and then there's Nintendo. Like it or not, I don't, mobile gaming with is crap games for a cheap cash grab, is also a threat to the industry and it's business practices that nobody cared about until the Wii. Sure, people are playing games, but they're crap.
This whole pity Xbox because they're going multi-platform is a reflection of their poor business practices, including Phil Spencer whose just as guilty and was part of the Xbox One reveal and strategy as all others, not what Sony and Nintendo have done right. Xbox's failures are their own doing by their own choices, Sony has a moment of it, and learned from it, and Jim Ryan was taking them back down that path. Whoever replaces him needs more of the Kaz Harai, Jack Tretton, Andrew House approach where customer service and satisfaction is key, not pockets to pick clean
Always funny to see Microsoft say how bad gaming business is after spending billions in trying to create a gaming monopoly.
Phil is still the master of keeping his job when the data shows he and his executive crew should have been fired years ago...
I was very surprised, that Game pass has only 34M subscribers. It cant justify itself. Absolutely not. But I believe, Xbox can do it with brute force. Maybe COD will lure new subscribers in. One thing is full game price, where even there developers say, that it hardly pays off. Other thing is small game pass fee, where people are happy, that they will save lot of money. How the hell can this pay development, if people save lot of money on games? I cant simply believe, that this can lead to healthy competition and quality games. It seems to me more like destructive behaviour for game industry. Im not saying Sony is like angel. They pay for exclusives. I dont like that too. But still I think, if someone pays studio for example for one year exclusivity, it can still pay off to developers. They will get money from company and can push game on other platforms. Its maybe not so good for players. But if everything would be good to players, maybe games will be free. And there will be no developers at all.....
Maybe Im more pesimistic then the reality is? I dont know.
Xbox console market is in decline just like their sales of games, though games sales fell off a cliff for them because of their desperate gamepass move.
The same customers are buying the next iteration of (insert console name). There’s never been a 200 million PlayStation console. Same 100+ million every gen. That’s not growth.
The same people buy COD every year, same with Madden, Fifa etc. So why is it that having consistent revenue from the same people buying now is bad? Pretty sure Activision Blizzard think so too.
Maybe discs drives are more expensive because they are used less-yes. But compared to 30 years ago with proprietary cartridge slots? I’m sure a $3 trillion dollar company can work out a discount with manufacturers.
MS hasn't made many good decisions for a long time running the console market.
Like I said if it weren't for MS having the money that they have if it was any other company they would be out of the console race a long time ago.
He's not lying. Numbers will tell you that. I assume some of you don't know what stagnant mean
Well thats because anyone who wanted one probably has one...six year cycle is pretty long.
I guess for Xbox a stagnant console market spells doom because it means GP has peaked and their business plan was based on GP expanding.
For Sony it's business as usual, sell a load of consoles, sell a load of games, it's all good.
The play anywhere thing having the games on PC didnt help and, and now bringing xbox games to Sony wont help, its pretty clear MS wants to go away from physical and be all software
This dude is so pathetic.
Constantly spreading lies and misinformation. Microsoft needs to fire him before he ruins the brand even more. Xbox brand is stagnant. PlayStation and Nintendo are selling like crazy. Phil Spencer is a cancer.
Isn't gonna make you much more money, because you have the same number of subscribers that are playing the game for free. I very much doubt that PlayStation fans are gonna jump ship to Game Pass that's $14.99+ a month, why? Because they still have to pay for Xbox Live, in order to play it, and when Call of Duty is all they're gonna play, and they plan to play it for the year, what's $69.99 as a one time payment versus $14.99/mn. They're gonna have to buy an Xbox console that's another $499 and they're serious gamers, right? So they're not gonna get a Series S that's underpowered and could give their competition the edge. And, if they're smart and buy the physical copy, they can trade it in and get some money back, or they keep the disc and play it forever. If the game was old-school, if would have split-screen like GoldenEye or if they could LAN party like Halo then they could LAN party which means if they liked the game enough, they could always go back and play it later. On Game Pass, like Netflix, they come and go. One day it's on Game Pass, the next day it isn't because Game Pass only has so many slots. It's the same on Steam. They buy it once, they don't need Xbox Live or PlayStation Network to play it with friends and PC gaming, unlike consoles, is still free online multiplayer. Need I go on?
There is a misconception that magically the large mobile gaming audience that is trained on free to play and 99 cent games will up-convert to spending $10-15 a month renting or spend $70 on title purchases. The fallacy comes in this thought that the upper cap of 300 million core gamers that make up the engaged gaming market can exponentially grow. The mobile audience will not enroll in the numbers necessary to offset the costs that Xbox is incurring to produce the games core gamers want to play. Doing the multi-platform releases on Switch and Playstation is the best way of increasing the piece of the capped 300 million core gamer market.
ms spent nearly a 100 billion dollars the past few years trying to BUY success and not grow their own studios, and what did they get? redfall was complete trash(lol), darktide was actually pretty good, but the devs are stupid af, and bethesda... starfield has got to be one of the most average, generic games in the past decade, and some people actually thought it stood a chance to be goty? l.o.l.
They're not good at gaming, simples. Rich enough to pretend they are, rich enough to appear as though they are, but dumb enough to release tremendously faulty hardware, annoy and ostracize their best devs, arrogant enough to spend stupid money buying up IP's/studios and naive enough to act like the whole industry is in the same position as them when really they're just the school bully that turns around one day and goes 'hey, where did all my cretin followers go? Have they realised I'm horrible and gone to play in the other, nicer, more fun playground?'
Yes. We all have
Another day, another interview by the leader of the third place console claiming he knows anything about the market.
Look at him continue to gripe and complain. Xbox goes multiplatform so everyone starts saying everyone else should. When did everyone start backing Xbox? Or maybe it's just the Xbox crowd with the Xbox Live mentality just just throw fits and the PlayStation community are mature enough to just ignore it but now everyone says "Oh, Sony should do the same thing!"
Look if Nintendo, who all they do is gaming, that's it, no end-to-end ecosystem like Sony, and no services like Microsoft, aren't even on PC yet, then the gaming industry isn't in that condition everyone thinks it is, so I don't know why PlayStation are even on PC. The PS5 is selling well enough and if the industry looks to Nintendo as the authority on how to manage the business, then having 100% console exclusivity is a solid way to go.
Xbox just can't bear the fact they've lost so in Phil's mind "I'm not going to go down alone!"
So in otherwords no! The resolution-gate saga will continue.
Direct X12 is the new "secret sauce." Even though Face Off after Face off will continue to show a gulf between the two systems in terms of performance. X1 has a 1.2 TF GPU. Doesn't matter how 'low-level' you go, it can only push so many pixels. Most console APIs are already as close to coding to metal as you can get, and yes they get refined over time. Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 3, for example. But both of those games were 720p, keep in mind. Upping the resolution from 720p to 1080p simply requires a grunt that the X1 GPU will never have. Ever.
My God, the things some desperate fans are clinging to. Its getting absurd, and the Xbox media liaisons are only making the delusions worse with their half-truths and snake oil.
DX12 doesn't solve weak hardware.
Erm cool....Makes no difference to me I enjoy playing games despite specs/graphics etc.
Hence why I still play PS2 occasionally.
Standing by Phil!.