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Xbox One and Wii U European sales surprise

With both consoles coming under scrutiny for sales performance in recent times, it may come as a surprise that they are virtually neck and neck for weekly sales in Europe. The Xbox One has seen a huge drop off in sales globally, and a territory Microsoft were once strong in is currently shunning them in favor of the PS4.

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Muffins12233703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Ha wow in other words xbox one is selling horrible in Europe and soon to be in Asia when or if it ever even trys over there,15,000 a week is meh

GamersHeaven3703d ago

That's with a price cut Microsoft hurt what popularity the Xbox brand had in Europe this will be a big uphill battle all generation for them.

Manic20143703d ago

The price cut just came late last week, the numbers are of the week prior.

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Kingthrash3603703d ago

the big question is, did the cut help?

corvusmd3703d ago

That's actually NOT with a price cut, conveniently the article ended the comparison on the day the XB1 announced the price cut and Titanfall bundle...which then sold out in the UK immediately. Till then XB1 was only in a handful of European countries, and didn't have an abundance of stock there. I think PS4 will lead for a while, but by next Christmas/Halo release things will start to even up and the gap will shrink. Titanfall will help with that, and if all the rumors are true about DX 11.2 and E3 announcements, the gap will start to shrink then too. It's still not even a half a year old, counting it out would be too presumptuous at this point...the fact is that it's actually selling rather well, PS4 is just selling better and in more than twice as many countries...

JokesOnYou3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Where are these official WW numbers you speak of for X1? No, doubt sony is ahead but X1 is doing fine. Or is this more talk like last gen when supposedly according tons of blog fan site 360 was getting crushed WW and was behind ps3 in total sales for over a year prior to this gen, then in Oct-Nov we found out through official numbers from both that 360 hit 80mil before ps3 did in Nov 2013?

Also these numbers don't account for the new Titanfall bundle and price drop in Euro.

Yes both consoles will experience sales drops:

Japanese sales charts – Wii U holds steady, PS4 falls off a cliff
"Last week the console managed to sell 309k units during its first week, but this week its down to just 65k. That’s an 80% drop in sales week over week."
http://wiiudaily.com/2014/0...

"The interesting news comes from the PS4, which sold about 65,000 units in its second week. The Wii U, by contrast, sold nearly double that amount in its second week on the Japanese market: 127,000."
http://nintendoenthusiast.c...

-Where's the 10 regurgitated reports of that on n4g? oh, my bad ssssshhhhh.

So what we see is basicly ps4 had a great launch but it's doubtful ps4 is ever going to see big numbers from Japan this gen, they are just not buying into consoles like the good old ps2 days.

scott1823703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

PS4 been at no. 1 on Amazon US since restocked, I don't think that thing will ever slow down when it has stock...

BABYLEG3703d ago

I got one question.
is the sales 1080p 60fps?

GTgamer3703d ago

@babyleg that is the dumbest question ever dufaq :/.

GTgamer3703d ago

And to the people who think titanfall will help Xboxone get 3 million more consoles sold to catch up to the PS4 then your in for a Rude awakening :).

Prophet-Gamer3703d ago

@Jokesonyou

You have to keep in mind it's supplied constrained in Japan, just like everywhere else. Famitsu themselves said that Sony sold pretty much all their stock.

-Superman-3703d ago

to MMEHTA, Price cut did not come in. Its still in my country store 590 dollars.
PS4 is released in 48 countries, Xbox One in 13 countries.
STOP LYING ABOUT PRICE CUT. It was only UK and in few store that was sold out.

Skips3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

@corvusmd

"and didn't have an abundance of stock there."

Compared to PS4? lol Dude, you could walk into ANY store and find piles of Xbox's sitting on store shelves. I think you're mistaking "hard to find" for PS4's bud.

"I think PS4 will lead for a while, but by next Christmas/Halo release things will start to even up and the gap will shrink. Titanfall will help with that, and if all the rumors are true about DX 11.2 and E3 announcements"

Infamous SS, PS+, and the release of MGSV will pretty much completely counteract that, if not push the PS4 ahead even more. lol Not to mention the release of Uncharted and other HUGE announcements Sony have in store for GDC and E3.

It's kinda cute that you think 2 games, will actually make a difference in this massacre though. :/

SniperControl3703d ago

@corvusmd

Yet another fanboy who thinks Sony are doing nothing to improve the PS4, you say games like Titan fall and Halo will shrink the gap, I say games like Uncharted 4, The Order, Second Son and Drive club will just increase the gap further.

You also seem to think that MS have sole use of E3, man you are in for a rude awakening come E3.

Magicite3703d ago

@jokes
u still dont understand that PS4 sells all it has, its outsold almost everywhere, while all other consoles are sitting on the shelves.

vigilante_man3703d ago

XB1 = 13 Countries
PS4 = 48 Countires

Fact: MS said they were making the same amount of Units as PS4 prior to release. MS decided to concentrate on 13 countries to gain market share in those 13. Sony decided to spread the load.

Despite making the same amount of units PS4 has sold many more. And have outsold XB1 in ALL countries.

Question: Where are all the unsold units of XB1? If they are 3 million behind in customer sales then where are they? Sure 300k-500k may be in stores/warehouses but what about the other 2.5 million units?

Are they making less XB1 consoles at the moment?

abzdine3703d ago

@JOY:
"Also these numbers don't account for the new Titanfall bundle and price drop in Euro."

Let's see what happens when MGSV and inFamous bundle hit the shelves :)

xxBiG_BoSSxx3703d ago

@Jokes

"according tons of blog fan site 360 was getting crushed WW and was behind ps3 in total sales for over a year prior to this gen, then in Oct-Nov we found out through official numbers from both that 360 hit 80mil before ps3 did in Nov 2013?"

Um, the 360 had a year head start which equaled nearly 6 million consoles, yet ps3 reached 80 million sold very shortly after it. I thought that was a clear indicator of which was selling more. But I guess not.

Let's make it easier for you then. If you and I are going to the same destination, starting from the same point, and you leave an hour before I do, but I arrive just a few minutes after you, who do you think is travelling faster?

JOEgolferG3703d ago

The limited edition MGS5 PS4 console sold out within two hours of it being released in Japan, not sure how many it was exactly.

morganfell3703d ago

@xxBiG_BoSSxx,

Remember the 3rd grade math problem? "One train leaves Chicago..."

Well, such rudimentary reasoning is beyond people when they have their hope goggles attached to their head with a nail gun.

MazzingerZ3703d ago

People talk about MSFT pricecuts and bombs at E3 as if SONY hasn't planned that as well, they do also have more stuff to announce and will probably announce a pricecut for X-mas

JokesOnYou3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

lol, I never said anything about 360 selling FASTER, I said very specifically it hit 80mil sold before ps3 did, prior to next gen launch, DESPITE for over 18+ months on n4g daily ps folks swearing ps3 had SURPASSED 360 WW sales, I could link you tons of posts from me asking ps folks who said that where we're they getting these WW sales numbers, none responded with links of proof just regurgitated what they "heard", that's how ps fans are, if they hear it and it's pro ps it must be true, keep repeating as if its fact (so many examples of this behavior)= Now ps folks are pretending they once again know X1 WW sales is at #mil, all we know for sure is ps4 is at 6+mil whatever sony announced, its ahead of X1 but X1 surely isn't sitting at 3mil since Dec.

In summary ps4 is having amazing sales but the ps diehards try to twist that as X1 is selling poorly, when in fact we know it's ahead of 360 sales for the same timeframe and will likely easily exceeded 360 1st year sales. That's all.

S2Killinit3703d ago

@jokesonyoy
How are you giving us reports of Sony's second week sales when it has not been released for more than a week yet?

JokesOnYou3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

-Damm the info is in my 1st post above, try reading before asking a dumb question....it's not like I arbitrarily made it up, I'm simply restating the data from media create which is a well known source that tracks sales in Japan:

"Media Create Sales (2/24-3/2) — Harvest Moon on Top, Week 2 PS4 Lower than Wii U"
http://nintendoenthusiast.c...

-See opinions are great but when talking numbers I usually give links not just spew nonsense like some folks. Again when I make statements like X1 for same timeframe sold more than 360 its because I can prove it with a link from a industry accepted source, not just "blog A said".

13th February 2014
"Xbox One selling more than twice as fast as Xbox 360 – Microsoft on NPD data"
http://www.vg247.com/2014/0...

It's weird because ps faithful get mad as if anything I said is negative towards ps4, NO, actually I've clearly acknowledged like the data proves ps4 is doing amazing but simply because I look at the FACTS and refuse to accept the status quo of X1 negativity on this site it hurts some people's feelings. Oh well, such is life.

Boody-Bandit3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

"Japanese sales charts – Wii U holds steady, PS4 falls off a cliff.

Last week the console managed to sell 309k units during its first week, but this week its down to just 65k. That’s an 80% drop in sales week over week."

Wow JOY that's very selective reasoning on your part.

Let's look at a few facts here.
The Wii U launched in Japan during the holidays.

The PS4 a couple months after the holidays.

Sony is having seriously allocation issues because of very high global demand. Yet the PS4 sold more in Japan in the 2nd week than the XBOX ONE or Wii U sold globally for that week.

In it's second week in Japan the PS4 sold over 65k. The Wii U during that same week barely sold over 8k.

8k is the Wii U holding steady?
Now I know you're referring to the Wii U's 2nd week of sales in Japan but again that was during the holidays and they weren't in 52 other regions at the same time with allocation issues.

You should really consider treading lightly because I don't see the PS4 slowing down any time soon. Sony will most likely sell as many PS4's as they can manufacture for the next several months if not year. The PS4 is the new must have device for gamers. It's out pacing any other gaming console in history.

Even if they hit a bit of a lull in Japan once they can exceed the demand with enough stock. Japan is one of those areas that line up around the block to purchase a console just for one game more so than most any other country. Wait and see what happens when MGSV, a JRPG or GT7 hits retail.

No matter how you spin it Sony will own Japan when it comes to gaming "console" of choice.

cell9893703d ago

People that think Titanfall is gonna help xbone catch up are in for a rude awakening, you forget Infamous bundles are a top sale right now and MGS V GZ is on the horizon. MGS being more of a classic PS franchise, people will be getting that superior version over the 720p xbone. Rude awakening is the order of the day for xbone fans

BG115793703d ago

People should understand that the xbone's sales will tank until there is a price cut.
The UK price cut is hurting sales overall.

When the price cut happens, Xbone's sales will increase...

JokesOnYou3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

"Wow JOY that's very selective reasoning on your part."

-None of those words you quoted above your statement were mine they were from the link, (please read carefully if youre going to have an intelligent conversation) however it's not selective, its a FACT only to make a comparison between launches and 2nd weeks sales of wii u vs ps4.

"Sony is having seriously allocation issues because of very high global demand. Yet the PS4 sold more in Japan in the 2nd week than the XBOX ONE or Wii U sold globally for that week."

-Check this out:

PS4 Week 2 Japan Sales Worst in Recent History for New System

March 5, 2014 Written by Heath Hindman

"The PS4′s second-week sales numbers are in, with Media Create reporting Sony’s fourth console to have sold 65,685 units in its second week. You’ll probably see a lot of people online claiming supply constraints, but from my own experience here in Japan, that does not seem very true. I’m just one guy, but every game shop I see seems to have PS4s readily available, and it’s been that way since day 1." --from playstationlifestyle.com which is hardly a xbox fanboy site, doesn't mean it's fact but neither is your assumptions.--
http://www.playstationlifes...

-So yes ps4 has high global demand but whether that affected 2nd week sales IN JAPAN is questionable since IT CAN NOT BE VERIFIED, also YOU DO NOT KNOW CURRENT SALES DATA WW FOR X1, since micro, nor a reliable source has given latest sales but as usual on n4g folks continue making assumptions claiming things like shortages in Japan as fact.

"You should really consider treading lightly because I don't see the PS4 slowing down any time soon."

-So what?

-Why?

-And I don't see X1 dead anytime soon like if you read carefully many hear try to imply, which was the basis of my first post. Iam still going to play Titanfall on my X1 in less than a week, ps fans gonna enjoy infamous SS, I'm still gonna get Quantum Break and the rest of X1 exclusives plus multiplats in 2014 and so on, no different than ps fans will get what they like on ps4. lol, bro, I know wassup.

Pricey3703d ago

@ Jokes

Does the truth make you upset, .... pats his head.... it'll be ok. One day you'll learn to not let a brand rule your life.

k3rn3ll3702d ago

No it is a price cut for UK not Europe .

This article is filled with bias. Must not be much debating going on at videgamedebate.com. actually from what I can tell their site is nothing but click bait.

Europe is lost cause for Xbox. Hah. They are gonna try to a sell there product in every country that has electricity.

Also its still not available in all countries in Europe either

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lolCHILLbro3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

VGChartz tracks Europe and UK separately, Xbox One is barely available in the UK which is where these numbers are comin from, PS4 is outselling Xbox and im not debating this, its just that everyone seems to skew these numbers

Edit: Meant for @Agent-86

BitbyDeath3703d ago

No it doesn't.

"Europe - UK + Germany + France"

http://www.vgchartz.com/met...

djplonker3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Dont lie I can disprove you with many links to sites that have the day one edition in stock in the uk!

SniperControl3703d ago

BS, My local Game store has X1's readily available, they also still have a backlog of PS4 orders to fulfil.
Same as a lot of shops in my city, the PS4 is like gold dust.

chrisarsenalsavart3703d ago

Barely available?
Dude, I live in London and there is plenty of Xbox in every stores(Tesco, asda, Sainsbury, game, hmv...)
Now ps4 on the other end is barely available.
Get your facts straight next time

liquidhalos3703d ago

Game in cheltenham had a whole load of Xbox Ones last week. So does argos, game gloucester, argos gloucester so on so forth.

BadlyPackedKeebab3703d ago

HAHA the thing has been in constant stock everywhere since before Christmas! what are you talking about!

vigilante_man3703d ago

You must live outside the UK.

They have been in stock all over since the release day! I would stick to what I know if I was you. Take it from someone who has seen many, many XB1s in stores.

It would be great if both PS4 and XB1 sold out but only the PS4 has been sold out in the UK.

MS had massive advertising, many price cuts and more floor space in gaming shops during the 360 era in the UK. I do not think the 360 has ever been sold at normal price here.

That is why the first place to get a XB1 price cut is the UK!

JOEgolferG3703d ago

Its the same here in Manchester, Xbox One's left, right and centre but absolutely no PS4's

Baka-akaB3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

"You must live outside the UK"

I think it gets worse outside the uk . I dont think the xb1 have been sold out loclaly , after the initial launch surge .

I see steady sales for it , but no supply issues . It's just that the ps4 frenzy is obliterating it . People come asking daily for a ps4 .. those that want a xb1 just get one .

And lucky for MS , some people were so impatient they got a XB1 instead , while still eyballing a ps4 someday

irepbtown3703d ago

Xbox one is in stock on Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mic...

PS4 is not in stock and wont be until the 25th of March: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Son...

Proof that the X1 is in stock, PS4 is not.

captain_slow823702d ago

dude go to argos online pop ur psotcode in for both the x1 an ps4 see what ones you can pick up in store....

x1 every single store around me ps4 out of stock pretty much everywhere

T23702d ago

I think the biggest question is what happens to MS profit on each system that everyone reported on. Bad sales and a loss on each system? Even if sales pick up, at what cost.? It truly is ps3 launch all over.
Curse of the 3rd console! #Xbox3

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fermcr3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

"Xbox One and Wii U European sales surprise"

Not really. Microsoft and Nintendo really screwed up with their consoles... Now they are paying the price, with low sales.

Nintendo will have a tough job saving the WiiU. I don't think it can be saved... but Microsoft can still improve X1's sales if they just abandoned Kinect, and release a Kinectless X1 cheaper then the PS4. They probably won't reach PS4 numbers (PS4 numbers at this moment are out of their reach), but they will definitely improve X1 sales. One other thing for Microsoft, improve XBLA Gold's offerings. There is not competition compared to PSN+ offerings.

Why o why3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Agreed 100 percent. Didn't you used to be a......arr, never mind

The lack of last gen advantages has hurt microsoft. No headstart and being more expensive than its more powerful and cheaper competitor has really made a significant difference. Remember there was even a freebie fifa game for the uk and it hardly made a dent to sonys momentum.

Another factor I feel is overlooked is that many potential and former xbox customers have witnessed microsofts ethos towards gaming. The ardent fans will defend getting nickle n dimed but others are obviously saying no thanks. The so called cash rich microsoft has for 2 straight gens fallen off producing games. Their minimalistic approach was there for all to see. The ardent will make excuses but those not so fanatical seem to of had enough. Others just weren't happy with the post natal switch to appeasing the casual more than their core gamers.

Just think for a second. For a whole gen xbox fans heard xbox fans bragging about sales and the money microsoft had whilst ridiculing sony for not being as rich, fighting bankruptcy and losing market share YET sony continued to pump the lifeblood of consoles all the way through the gen. Some of the ardent must think some of their own kinsmen didn't take note of this paradox/irony. Some must feel that others didnt see the value in ps+ over xbl. Maybe the ardent should ask the those returning to playstation why they're doing so. Its not just 1 factor, trust me.

Realplaya3703d ago

So The Wii U which is about so many units from outselling the Xbox One will not do good while the Xbox One which has one big game in the foreseeable futures will be alright?

Mario Kart 8, Smash, Bayonetta 2, X, Yarn Yoshi and so on and so on vs Titanfall and you name the first party exclucsives. I'm sorry but the X Box One is in trouble because why would I buy a over priced under powerd system when I can get a Ps4 and Wii U for the same price?

avengers19783703d ago

If you combine Wii U sales with XB1 sales from the charts PS4 is still beating both

kenshiro1003703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

I don't think a pricecut will save the XB1. Microsoft started out wrong, they will end wrong. You don't screw with costumers like that.

darren_poolies3703d ago

@GTGamer

The joke => ---------

Your head => -----------

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Pogmathoin3702d ago

Is the war already over?

And that is the problem. Rather than great gaming, people are more obsessed with WW3.
I remember the Amiga/ST days where people made great tech demos and so on, and pushed the machine.... Now its Vgchartz.... Pachter..... Halo 12,Unchartered 7.......BS......

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staticdash223703d ago

Wow. Worldwide sales have really dropped off for Xbox One, what the heck is going on?

Agent-863703d ago

What's even more remarkable is that Xbox One is being outsold by the PS3 (a 7+ year old system). According to VGChartz, the PS3 has outsold the the Xbox One every week except one since the beginning of the year. That is not a good position to be in. MS really needs to rethink their strategy and pricing.

http://www.vgchartz.com/wee...

Note: I know VGChartz should be read with a skeptical eye, but their estimates are usually not too way off base.

IIZANGETSUII3703d ago

Honestly idk why people say VGChartz its not a reliable source, their numbers are always close to reality

Prophet-Gamer3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

@IIZANGETSUII

It's not a reliable source, but it's a good gauge of what's going on. Given their history, just assume their undertracking Playstation and over tracking Xbox, and you'll get a good picture of things.

So in this case, it's likely the PS4 is doing even better than they say

Prime1573703d ago

@ IIZANGETSUII AND Prophet-Gamer

It's like listening to the two of you argue about if the glass is half full or half empty, lol.

I guess I'm a half empty guy on this topic.

JuleyJules3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

It's just as Wii U gamers said over the last year would happen after Xbox One and PS4 released - the market is different but nobody believed us. Sure PS4 is selling like crazy but the market is different now. Microsoft turned people off focusing on TV features and policies they later had to go back on. Sony is focusing on games with PS4; MS is releasing big games on XB1, PC and 360 thus dividing gamers by taking away incentives to upgrade. Titanfall is a test to see what happens. They've also had issues since release as well as games on PS4 and Xbox One that were better graphically on PS4. Like Wii U time will tell what happens. Pus with PS4 2nd week sales in Japan dropped by 80%.

zerog3703d ago

I'm thinking that ps4 japan sales dropped off because they dropped the knack bundle and the limited edition mgsv bundle comes out soon and people are probably waiting on that. Let's see how sales look when it drops.

Prime1573703d ago

I mean, yeah... one could argue that the second week in north America (after the initial one million) dipped off even more...

LeCreuset3703d ago

The casual market that those two systems heavily relied on changed, which is why the system that courted them the least suffered the least.

"Sony is focusing on games with PS4; MS is releasing big games on XB1, PC and 360 thus dividing gamers by taking away incentives to upgrade."

Are you serious? I don't even know where to begin to address that absurdity.

MannGamer3703d ago

Ps4 US second week drop by almost 90% and in Europe close to 75%. So don't read too much in the drop

JuleyJules3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Next week we'll see if releasing Titanfall on PC, 360 and Xbox One gives Xbox One the huge boost everyone seems to think it will. Obviously it IS going to improve Xbox One sales with the bundle and everything BUT my point is that there will be lots of people buying it on PC/360 who could have been persuaded to upgrade to Xbox One if it was only released on the new system. When Microsoft starts releasing games only on Xbox One sales are going to spike. Why divide your own fans?

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styferion3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Xbox never really strong worldwide even since the previous gen, just go outside major countries and you'll know it.
They'll get even more unpopular outside now that they chose to focus on local features that won't be supported on the rest of the world(that tv thingy and one-in-all something2 won't work outside major country, that's why it sold like shit outside US/UK).

Austacker3703d ago

Don't forget the weak Azure server support.

If you played the Titanfall beta, you'll know if you're not in the core US/UK demographic, you're pretty much SOL on getting access to local cloud servers.

MS put the chicken before the egg going global to markets launching the X1 without putting local Azure servers there for them to use.

Volkama3703d ago

10 agrees that Azure availability was bad, presumably from 10 fellow Australians.

Titanfall beta servers were fantastic pretty much everywhere except Australasia. And that is only temporary, as there are 2 Azure datacentres being built in Australia.

Doesn't help you right now of course, but it wont be long.

vigilante_man3703d ago

With the PS3 even selling more than XB1 worldwide these past few weeks it is a bad state for XB1 to be in so early.

The past week or so I have commented many times on the fact XB1 will be in a royal battle with WiiU for second place in terms of sales this year. It is over 2 million behind and slowing down.

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Flyingdog6703703d ago

Oh man, seems that Xbox One sales have dropped from the cliff. Maybe Titanfall can boost some sales, but i don't see it happening by a large amount.

Kingthrash3603703d ago

agreed tf not gunna put much of a boost or close a gap..iss will move some ps4s this month too

Rustynail3703d ago

The same could be said about Smash bros and Mario kart, they aren't gonna boost Wii U sales either.

Kingthrash3603703d ago

lol two known system sellers...ok
the wiiu isnt pulling much but those 2 games are indeed proven system sellers. i'd rather not compare tf a new ip, to them games. pikman 3 sold systems, but ssb and mk are proven.

Metallox3703d ago

@Rustynail, I could understand if those games were already released, they are not. Like Kinghtrash says, they are proven systems sellers, but still we don't know if they are going to move. Let's just wait, claiming something lke that it's really pointless.

@Knighrash It's Pikmin, not Pikman, why this mistake is so common?

JuleyJules3703d ago

Titanfall will help especially with the bundle but certainly not like it would if it was ONLY on Xbox One and maybe PC. Putting it on 360 as well just divides MS's own fans and gives them one less reason to upgrade right now from 360.

DanManDantheMan3703d ago

Time for 3rd parties to start releasing half-assed ports to Xbox One and then abandon the platform when those ports fail to sell. Oh wait, they can't, because they have nowhere else to make money.

madjedi3703d ago

Well to be fair at least xbox gamers actually buy third party games, in very healthy numbers.

The ps4 could lead the xb1 3 to 1 worldwide in sales and it would still have great third party support. Main reasons microsoft actually gives a shit about having a good working relationship with 3rd party devs.

2nd and more importantly, unlike nintendo fans, xbox fans actually buy 3rd party games.

And don't pitch a shitfit crying liked entitled children because the game wasn't designed exclusively with the wii u in mind and then ported to other platforms.

Tldr Xb1 regardless of how badly it's outsold by the ps4 is still very much so important to 3rd party devs, and will not be deemed irrelevant and abandoned like the wii u.

It's adorable that a nintendo fan thinks ms is in anywhere near the same boat as nintendo is in.

Lets see when did the ps3, 360, ps4 and pc cease to exist, basically everyone but nintendo.

Justindark3703d ago

why does xbox one cost more then ps4 is it do to the kinect?

BX813703d ago

I would say yes. It has and will continue to have great looking games but kinect is a major to do on the pricing.

Rustynail3703d ago

It's the faster processor, Kinect which cost 75 bucks to build, the headset and the external charger.

zeuanimals3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Faster processor? You know it's the same exact processor in the PS4, right? They just clocked it faster, maybe, we don't even know what the PS4's is clocked at actually. We do know the ICE team made some significant improvements to it, though.

It's the Kinect and the eSRAM that cost a lot. The "external charger" is just a power brick and all systems have them, whether or not they're internal or external doesn't really do much to the price.

G20WLY3703d ago

There's too much misinformation in your post for me to just move along. I mean, how can you be wrong so many times with so few words?!

^Zeuanimals is spot on, but I will add that the Kinect adds more than $75 to the price of XBone. "Build price" does not equal "retail price", in business, but particularly in Microsoft's case...

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Xbox Is Not Your Friend

After laying off almost 2,000 people, Xbox finds itself in a position at odds with the community-first image it has cultivated for itself.

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TwoPicklesGood4h ago

lol I’m not a big MS gamer but Sony and a number of others have laid off ton of people as well. Where are the ridiculous articles about them not being your friend? Gaming news is such a joke and these sites wonder why they have to beg for money/patreons or flood with 5x more ads.

Profchaos3h ago

I think the sentiment is corporations are there to make money they are not out friends that are harsh and cutthroat when lt comes to the bottom line so why do we proclaim our love for any gaming company from the rooftops when they wouldn't care about us unless we are buying the next thing.

We need to beore objective with how we view these "teams"

Gridknac2h ago

This is the absolute truth. The only part of you these companies, ALL companies, want to be friends with is your bank account. They don't care what they have to say, who's job they have to cut, or what shady underhandedness they must engage in. Bottom line is all that matters.

Vits58m ago

Because people unfortunately make these companies and products part of their own persona, so when they are scrutinized, they see it as an attack on themselves. There is some neuropsychological research around this phenomenon, but it basically has the same effect as religion. It helps foster a sense of community that humans need to feel comfortable. So that is not happening unless we have a sudden surge of people actually understanding how they work and taking control of themselves.

Magatsuhi53m ago

While it's true Sony isn't a friend either, let's not pretend that they're even in the same ballpark as MS's anti consumer practices. Sony is not a friend but atleast they're not an enemy like MS.

derek1h ago

@twopickles, were you not paying attention? Sony was heavily criticized when they laid off people weeks ago, more than Microsoft did with their massive abk layoffs.

Gamingsince19811h ago

I want to know who thought Xbox was community first anyway lmfao

ChasterMies30m ago

That’s Whataboutism. Sony and other game companies didn’t pay more than $80B to buy up publishers. Microsoft said in court that it wasn’t going to have redundancies and fire people. Microsoft told Xbox owners that they would have a AAA on GamePass each quarter. But here we are with Microsoft Game Studios shrinking. Consolidation doesn’t benefit the consumer, and no company has consolidated more than Microsoft.

BehindTheRows26m ago(Edited 25m ago)

Exactly. They love their SonyToo instead of looking at everything in its totality. You spend $80B to buy up so many pubs/devs, you damn well should have something to show for it.

That said, this article is old and someone is clearly looking for clicks!

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cthulhucultist2h ago

ok here is a reality check. Tech companies have been firing thousands of employees the last couple of years.

I find it odd that the percentage of employees sacked from MS

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"Microsoft announced approximately 1,900 job cuts across its gaming division, including Activision Blizzard, ZeniMax, and Xbox. 8.6% of its colossal 22,000-strong global workforce. "

is worth writing an article condemning the company, when Sony Interactive fired 8% of its workforce (900 people approximately).

https://news.crunchbase.com...

Is the writer concerned about the percentage of the workforce fired or the number of employees?

Lets not forget that Unity laid off 25 percent of its workforce (1800 people) and Discord laid off 17 percent of its employees.

You also have to take into account the AI issue reported in the article. MS is heavily invested in A.I. They have invested in Open A.I (chatgpt 4+Dalle 3), in Abu Dhabi’s G42 and in French AI company Mistral.

These LLMs have already replaced thousands of jobs as A.I usage becomes more common

https://www.cbsnews.com/new...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://tech.co/news/compan...

This is the new reality. Even nvidia CEO said that games will fully A.I generated.

https://www.pcgamer.com/sof...

Nevertheless, no company should be ever viewed as "your friend". MS had numerous anti consumer practices in place and the same is true for Sony (not only in video game space) and Nintendo (60$ dollar games without permanent discounts, remasters of 10 year old game with full price, no console price cuts, expensive joy cons which are prone to drift, to name but a few).

Popsicle2h ago

Must be. Thought it to be common knowledge that no corporation is your friend.

rippermcrip2h ago

Xbox had a community-first image? Since when?

shaenoide1h ago

Any given company is not "friendly"...

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies35m ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."