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PS4, Xbox One Power Consumption Analysis Points To Sony Advantage And Future Efficiency Gains

A new report from the National Resources Defense Council put the PS4 and Xbox One under the power efficiency microscope and came back with less than glowing things to say about the new devices. According to the organization, both consoles draw more power than they should despite heavy investment in power-saving technologies.

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Pogmathoin3778d ago ShowReplies(9)
cleft53778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

Not really surprising on this one, the power brick almost ensures that the Xbox One would consume more energy and be less efficient. Having no power brick means that Sony's R&D had to be confident in their design because no way a fear of overheating wasn't a concern. Still both consoles performed very well, which is good since there is this big always on push as of late.

nukeitall3778d ago

How is the Xbox One less efficient?

If anything, the Xbox One is more efficient in all the tests. This means Xbox One does everything the PS4 does with less power. The difference can be as high as 33% (refer chart, game play).

The only exception is in stand-by mode, which the Xbox One is using more power to fuel Kinect Voice recognition. Something the PS4 does not do, hence the higher power draw.

Efficiency will improve, but I doubt it will have a significant impact on the power draw simply by the fact that stand-alone player has specialized hardware to perform a few specific tasks, whereas a console is quickly turning into a computer.

G20WLY3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

^What's wrong with your eyes nuke?

Look at the 'media' portion of the chart and tell me the XBone doesn't use substantially more energy there as well!

In standby, powering Kinect...hello viewers! And what about all the time you're asleep, at work, at gym, at anywhere not wanting to dance in front of your TV? XBone keeps sucking up electricity at a rate far greater than PS4, but you want to make out it's more efficient, despite the formal test clearly proving otherwise?! lol

BTW, PS4 does do voice recognition, not that anyone gives a toss lmao XD

Wh15ky3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

These power consumptions are really nothing for anybody to get their knickers in a twist about.

@G20WLY
Even if both systems spent 100% of the year in standby mode the difference to your annual electricity bill would be about £11 (or less than 20 USD).

Even if Sony and MS managed to half the power consumption of each console you would be looking at saving about £20 per year.

The consoles at present will consume less electricity in a year than a 2kW electric heater will in 5 days.

All this article proves is that it's a non issue.

rainslacker3777d ago (Edited 3777d ago )

Can I play the spin game too?

Efficiency is directly related to the computing power of the system.

So, It seems that most people who are technically inclined believe that the PS4 is 50% more powerful than the X1. However, looking at all these numbers, I see that despite being 50% more powerful, it actually only draws between 20-30% more power in each of the test cases presented, minus the standby mode.

Thus it is more efficient.

Think of it this way. You have a furnace. One furnace can heat a 1000 sq/ft house for $100/month, or a 2000 sq/ft house for $200/month.

A second furnace can heat a 2000 sq/ft house for $150 a month. Or it can heat a 1000 sq/ft house for $75/month.

Which is more efficient?

Looking forward to who can dispute my reasoning. Should be interesting.

The_Con-Sept3777d ago

@Nukeitall:

I can agree that gamers can go on gaming sprees for lengths as far as a full 24 hour period with the console in gaming mode. But this is based on an average user. And what is the average user doing? What almost every american does 6-12 hours a day.... WORKING. Or school... depends really. I leave my PS3 off sometimes for weeks at a time between games.

And a unit being powered off but still consuming electricity is where it can "add up."

at a glance those little .5 and 1.3 doesn't seem like much. But you keep multiplying them by the hour.... you see the bigger difference.

Pay an electric bill and look at the wattage you use when you get it one time. Just look at your bill ONCE in your life.

ProjectVulcan3777d ago (Edited 3777d ago )

Meh, neither console exactly guzzles power. I predicted less than 150w fully loaded in games for PS4, and lo and behold, it is 137 watts according to this test.

This isn't much really. Original PS3s and Xbox 360s were close to 200 watts fully loaded gaming. They got hot....

People said that PS4 might overheat or whatever because of the small case, but I said if its chipset drew less than 150w, it won't be that hard to dissipate. Turns out that it is a bit less than that in TOTAL, the chipset itself is probably not much more than 100 watts.

100 watt TDP is a piece of cake to control these days even in a small box like the PS4 case. High end laptop GPUs pull as much as that by themselves before you even factor in their CPU.

They will both no doubt shrink onto the 22nm production node later next year, PS4 will barely break 100 watts total after that revision you see.

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SilentNegotiator3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

More power AND more power efficiency. Sony sure did a bang up job* with hardware this gen.

*To non-Americans, "bang up job" means "very successful"

Spartan1193778d ago

Haha did you even read the article or did you just read the title. The PS4 requires more power consumption for all tasks besides being in stand by mode. So that means if both consoles were being used for a period of 10 hrs playing games and watching movies the Xbox would be more power efficient. Nice try Maria, you can try spin it any way you want but you just end up making yourself look stupid

SilentNegotiator3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

...no, I did not. It seemed very straight forward. How much more deceptive could that title be?

RonRico3777d ago

"The PS4 consumes more power than the Xbox One in every mode except Connected Standby, where the Xbox One chews threw 18W compared to Sony’s 8.8W"

Jvaughn6613778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

I find this article slightly misleading. It states " the ps4 consumes more power in every category except for connected standby." As you can see in the first graph of the article. It then goes on to say "both consoles are expected to spend much of their time in this mode" insinuating that in the long run the xbox will consume more power as you can see in the second graph pictured above. For those who don't know connected standby is when your console is turned on and leave it unattended so the screen turns dark to save power. Well I for one don't leave my console unattended for long periods of time. I spend most of my time streaming Netflix and playing games, so in my case my xbox is more power efficient than the ps4. This is just me though. Does anyone else on here spend a lot of time in control standby?

MarkusMcNugen3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

When Im at school its usually in standby. But, of course the aricles title is misleading and the article doesnt exactly match up to its name. It was submitted by N4Gs greatest Troll submitter. MariaHelFutura combs the internets all day every day looking for articles that are pro sony and anti-microsoft and submits them.

Click her name under the picture and look at the articles shes submitted since forever. You'll see pretty much exactly what I said.

Magicite3778d ago

once again proves that MS fails at hardware.

Jeedai Infidel3777d ago

No, it proves you don't bother reading past misleading titles.

Z_-_D_-_33777d ago

Costs more.
Is less powerful.
Consumes more power.

The Xbone is so in-proportional with what it should be.

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twdll3778d ago

Why would the NRDC care?

MidnytRain3777d ago

Why wouldn't they? Honestly, the power thing doesn't surprise me. Sony and MS are able to sell their consoles cheap for a reason. They cut corners in places they figure their audience won't think/care about before dropping cash.

-Foxtrot3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

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"Excelsior"

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Snookies123778d ago

ManBearPig?

On topic though, good stuff. Always good to be efficient in power consumption.

Riderz13373778d ago

Damn Sony built such an amazing piece of hardware...All with the power brick included in the console. How do they do it? Seriously, Sony are hardware magicians or something lol, they surprise me every time.

Also their hardware failure rates are very low in comparison to the competition. Good job Sony. Gonna buy the PS4 when inFAMOUS Second Son comes out =)

stuna13778d ago

Each PS4 comes with a little bit of magic inside! Lol.

OT; It's always good to save a little on the electric bill.

MarkusMcNugen3778d ago

"Also their hardware failure rates are very low in comparison to the competition."

Care to back that one up?

Riderz13373778d ago

Xbox 360 launch Vs. PS3 launch.

There you go.

JamieL3778d ago

@ Riderz1337
So since we are going back gens, why not compare the Xbox with the PS2 as well? The PS2 was anything but reliable, not as bad as the 360 at first, but Sony never did anything about it either, we were just screwed if they broke. It's funny how it's ok to go to different gens to prove a point about Sony, but as soon as the "PS3 failed compared to PS2", argument comes up YOU will proclaim "each Gen is a fresh start". All fanboys need to wake the F$@k up and realize they are wasting life on this "war", and how silly they look taking this stuff so serious.

Spartan1193778d ago

Try reading the entire article and not the misleading title. Xbox more power efficient in all factors besides standby mode. But hey if you wanna buy a console and leave it on standby to be more power effiecient go a head. I plan on using my console

Gremdude3778d ago

I think you will agree that your console is in standby more than it is on? Or do you play with your Xbone 24 hrs a day?

first1NFANTRY3778d ago

Sony is in a very good position, end of story.

JodyCones3778d ago

I went Christmas shopping today and literally every store I went to people were asking for PS4's and there were tons of xbox one's with all their games stacked high, no PS4's. A sales clerk at gamestop told me "I just can't get rid of any xbox one's, we sold two in the past week and sold 9 PS4's in just the past hour". My jaw dropped. The PS4 is killing it!

Chris123778d ago

Riiiiiight..... There were no PS4's anywhere to be seen but the Gamestop clerk said they sold 9 in the last hour? These shill posts are tiresome.

first1NFANTRY3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

Trust me mate it's the same situation here in Aus. Every electronics store i've been to has no ps4 instock till the third shipment next year and even then it's not guaranteed you'll get one.

MasterCornholio3778d ago

The same thing is happening in Spain. There are no PS4s anywhere but there are plenty of Xbox Ones on shelves.

@Chris12

Just accept the facts and move on.

#dealwithit

MarkusMcNugen3778d ago (Edited 3778d ago )

@JodyCones

100 dollars does make a big difference when 50% of the U.S. is in abject poverty.

Neonridr3777d ago

in Canada (at least where I am), you can't find either console.

I don't try to pretend that one is better than the other, they are both completely sold out around these parts.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow111h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos9h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos7h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje6h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon7h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum9h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum5h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola4h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum4h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola4h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum3h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad6h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola4h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos4h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai6h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK5h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh5h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville2h ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.