It's Official: YouTube Says Gaming Channel Content ID Claims Are All Valid, Channels Will Shut Down

"We recently enabled Content ID scanning on channels identified as affiliates of MCNs [Multi Channel Networks]," a YouTube spokesperson told Polygon. "This has resulted in new copyright claims for some users, based on policies set by the relevant content owners."

[Majin-vegeta]

All hell is about to brake loose.

[Tyrone_Biggums]

break

[Raccoon]

brea

[grumpc]

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

[SolidStoner]

There is no combo..

and youtube now sucks bad officially! Stand up and hate it!!! People power!!

[Anarki]

Google just needs to leave Youtube alone, it was fine the way it was with out them messing it up.

[LoTuZ]

Brayke

[abzdine]

dailymotion anyone?

[DragonKnight]

AngryJoe has responded, and it ain't pretty.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[frostypants]

The sad truth is Youtube can take videos down for whatever the hell they want...they are a private enterprise. Fair use protection prevents copyright holders from coming after you, but it doesn't prevent them from convincing Youtube to do take it down. There's no law against that.

Solution: find a better video site.

Yes, it sucks. Yes, Youtube is being stupid. No, it's not illegal as Angry Joe implies.

[creatchee]

And they're not going to upload anymore because they're not going to be paid for it. The whole "love of gaming" argument is officially out the window. These people just wanted to make money and they're being exposed as the sellouts that they are.

[Prime157]

Ok, you can take over and do it for free. See how long you last.

[Heartnet]

Sellouts? People want to get paid for the content they produce?

There not going to upload anymore since people need money to live there gonna go out to get a full time job and not have the time to record edit etc...

but no they sold out cuz they want to get paid...

[SecondSon]

Creatchee knows his shxt! Money is just paper your dumb parents go to work for, are you with me?... Huh... are you with me?

-.-

[HammadTheBeast]

wtf

These peoples' jobs are making content on Youtube. People like AngryJoe, Totalbiscuit and the rest live off making entertainment content.

[creatchee]

@Prime157
We've survived 6+ generations of consoles, arcade gaming, and most of the PC era without let's-play-for-profit. I think we'll manage.

@Heartnet
I will never, ever, EVER shed a single tear because somebody has to quit playing video games and get a real job. Call me old-fashioned or a stick in the mud, but that's just me.

Again, as I've said before, people who play competitively or make tips and tricks videos or reviews are fine. Those people deserve to be paid. Simply recording yourself playing a video game and adding your own commentary, entertaining or not, does not warrant compensation. In fact, it probably violates fair use (not that that would stand up in court or anything).

[megalonagyix]

I do it for free for over 2 years. I agree with creatchee

[malokevi]

creatchee, u da man. spot on.

[SpringHeeledJack]

Well said, these people did it for free in the beginning so shouldn't be a problem if they like gaming. You upload vids because you want people to see you or hobby, not for money.

@prime

Why can't he last doing it for free, it's only recording gameplay, those who are money whores should leave youtube. Those who gave up their job for youtube money are mugs, it was never guaranteed forever.

People on ustream n twitch right providing real time gameplay and for free. Those youtube commentators had it way too good for too long just for pressing a record button with their voice over gameplay.

[uncharted56]

Your so delusional lol. Get a real job. Omg use a new argument for the love of god. Some people on youtube spend not only hours editing gameplay but also use their creativity to make and put out some entertaining content for people to enjoy, which takes time and effort. I tried to be a youtuber for a while and it literally takes time and dedication to do it.

[Skate-AK]

Lol. Yeah dude. Because bandwidth is free. /s

[creatchee]

@uncharted56

"Your so delusional lol. Get a real job. Omg use a new argument for the love of god. Some people on youtube spend not only hours editing gameplay but also use their creativity to make and put out some entertaining content for people to enjoy, which takes time and effort. I tried to be a youtuber for a while and it literally takes time and dedication to do it."

Building model airplanes takes time and dedication. Mastering Monopoly takes time and dedication. Building Ikea furniture takes time and dedication. That doesn't mean that people who do that stuff should be paid for it.

And I'm sorry, but there's nothing creative about playing a video game to competition and recording your reactions to it. Editing might have it, but that's a necessity and not a focal point.

And just because "get a real job" is an old argument doesn't mean that it's any less true.

[escott013]

I totally agree. That was the first thing I thought. It's a shame that they won't continue to do it for the viewers and fans instead of the money.

[Somebody]

@ HammadtheBeast
Isn't Angry Joe part of the TheGuyWithGlasses group? If I'm not mistaken the main reason they chose Blip because of the early movie copyright claims harassing their reviews on Youtube. They thrived and with this new wave of Content ID Youtube is employing will only drive more content makers to follow TGWG's path.

[KumquatGOATBEEF]

@creatchee
Many of these channels are very well done and provide decent content at the expense of their time and equipment. Granted, it's relatively cheap to find ways to record PC games on a computer, but recording PS3 or XBOX 360? You need video capture cards, HD-PVRs, or some other solution so they need to recoup some of that cost. There's time that goes into managing channels, editing, and encoding every video.

No matter how you spin it it still takes time and effort to create the content you see on YouTube. They're not sellouts if they quit uploading because they'll just go back to what they were doing before, what YOU'RE currently doing, which is just playing games for the sake of playing games. Like Prime said, if you claim that they're sellouts then feel free to start uploading your experiences, too. You shouldn't have a problem putting forth the effort because of your "love for gaming," right?

[kupomogli]

I agree with creatchee, I mean these people just played games to get easy money. As soon as a new popular game came out, they'd spend the 20-40 hours it took to beat the game.

There's no editing a lot of these Youtube users had to do. Some of them that do reviews have to do editing, and I'm pretty sure that's still legit and they'll be making money, but the ones who just recorded videos and people watched them play through "walkthroughs." You're just getting money for playing through a game you were probably going to play through anyways.

The only time the player had to spend, is the time it originally takes to set up their capture card or recording device, and the short time it takes to click a button to decode what they set as their default setting. Then the short time it takes to click and add the videos to Youtube. The computer does all the work for people recording video walkthroughs.

These people are still going to play the games, they're just not going to take the extra 10-20 minutes per game, not video, to load it onto Youtube, so yeah. They're sellouts, they just saw it as an easy way to make a quick buck, not because they give a crap about their adoring fans.

There are people who put videos on Youtube for their love of the game, not to play the newest game and cash in on it.

Here's a video I put up. Did I put it up on Youtube to cash in? It's Yakuza 4, so common sense would be no. I put it on Youtube because I like the series and it's one of my favorite games last gen. Aside from this and Boxcelios 2, I didn't put any videos of Yakuza 4 up.

youtube.com/watch?v=qAd3FDWdL A0

But anyways. You know how long it took me to create all my videos which were just playthroughs? My "time and effort" was less than a minute to start recording, less than a minute of for decoding, and less than a minute to set it for upload on Youtube. As I said above. I didn't do much at all for any of my videos. My computer did everything. People shouldn't make salaries off playing video games just because they do five minutes of work for a video that will be watched 100,000 to a million times.

[kupomogli]

Like I said in my above comment, there are people who put forth the effort to edit and cut videos to do reviews, and these people deserve the money they get from ads. Hopefully those that do reviews don't lose out as well, just those that play the games and nothing more.

Writing the review itself takes a decent amount of time, but then cutting the video to fit along with what you've written takes a lot more. It'll take some time to do a decent review, a lot more if you're like some reviewers such as Angry Joe who goes all out with his reviews.

[ShinMaster]

""people who play competitively or make tips and tricks videos or reviews are fine. Those people deserve to be paid. Simply recording yourself playing a video game and adding your own commentary, entertaining or not, does not warrant compensation""

This I agree with. However, video walkthroughs are very useful.

[Volkama]

If they're making money off these channels they should be held accountable to the same regulations as any other party doing so. The original content is protected.

But in most cases stopping these channels is lose-lose. The author loses out, whoever produced the source material loses out, the audience loses out.

Note Google/Youtube do not gain from this either. They have to do this because it is their responsibility.

Expect these channels to re-surface, with the correct and proper agreements in place. A potential legal s***storm will be controlled.

[rainslacker]

Or they'll do it less. When they can devote their life to it, then obviously they can put more time and effort into it.

So lets all cheer for less content, with lower quality. Lets all cheer that we're going back to the system where only the big boys like IGN, GameInformer, or GameSpot, get any major exposure because they are big, even though their content is essentially the same, and sometimes of lower quality.

Hoorah that these people can't make money anymore. I know it will be better for all of us, and there is no reason to appreciate the quality content that some of these channels provided. /s

Personally I don't care if these people make money off it. If they can provide content that enough people feel is worth watching then I'm OK with that. Angry Joe's interview with Larry Hybb at E3 was one of the best I saw. But yeah, let the major publications who are more interested in maintaining the status quo run the show.

I can't believe you got a well said. Do that many people really think that these people don't love video games? They wouldn't have started doing all this if they didn't. The fact they can make a living off it is just a bonus that allows them to pursue their hobby in a meaningful way. I can't believe anyone on here wouldn't do the same if given the opportunity.

@Volkama

The biggest problem with all this mess is that it's flagging content that isn't under copyright. There is something called the fair use act, and what these 2 particular guys are doing falls under that, as they are doing reviews and adding their own commentary. As such, they can use clips from the content to "illustrate the point", as Joe puts it.

If these guys were just uploading full game videos with no added commentary, then I might agree with you, but the let's play with commentary actually do fall under fair use, whether the publishers like it or not.

[Volkama]

@Rainslacker
"The biggest problem with all this mess is that it's flagging content that isn't under copyright. There is something called the fair use act, and what these 2 particular guys are doing falls under that..."

I'm not going to pretend I have looked into the intricacies at all. If what you say is accurate and these channels fall under an established 'fair use' act then I agree, there should not be extra barriers put up that impede what they're doing.

[frostypants]

@Rainslacker: "The biggest problem with all this mess is that it's flagging content that isn't under copyright. There is something called the fair use act, and what these 2 particular guys are doing falls under that, as they are doing reviews and adding their own commentary."

The fair use act prevents those companies from coming after them legally. It doesn't stop Youtube from voluntarily taking the content down for whatever reason they feel like, even if it does make them look like a-holes for doing so.

[TBONEJF]

The Hell with UTUBE WITH IT'S COPYRIGHT protective act B.S.

[BattleReach]

What

[BattleTorn]

:( RIP Let's Play, and gameplays

[WorldGamer]

Well, the traffic to their website will just diminish, probably quite a bit too. I don't think they realize how huge video game content on their site really is.

Maybe they made a business decision and determined that this wasn't a huge deal. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

[MestreRothN4G]

"I don't think they realize how huge video game content on their site really is."

Do you really think they don't have this information in exact terms and aren't very much informed on the direct immediate impact of the decision?

Seriously?

[AtomicGerbil]

Google have made plenty of stupid decisions over the last twelve months regarding YouTube. I believe wholeheartedly that they are ignorant enough to shoot themselves in both feet like this.

[MestreRothN4G]

They obviously can go to routes that will harm their interests. Any people or company can.

Now... Doubting that they know the exact extent of the "gaming community" on Youtube is 100% juvenile. They know exactly how many videos are there, how many hits they get, how many people watch and return, which video is profitable or no, and you can bet this is put in consideration.

My guess? Not having to deal with so many "rightful" (in the eyes of lays and license agreements) reports is their target and there is where they hope to save money. So now a bot does the initial work.

[SecondSon]

@Flatbattery, just because we have hated a lot of their choices doesn't mean they were stupid or wrong. Google+ comments was executed amazingly over 2-3 years, it is part of a far greater plan then you think it is. Every one of their moves including this has a strategy plan behind it.

And
@WorldGamer are you kidding me when you say " I don't think they realize how huge video game content on their site really is"??? O.o

You do know Google has 5 cookies on N4G tracking what site you will click next? They know who watches gaming videos and what they do online, even what they buy. The reason why they are so important today is because they are statistical geniuses and they have a huge amount of data.

They know better then most companies how much of a gamer each of their user is. Their target audience isn't gamers, its every person using a computer or smartphone. (Google Chrome OS, Android Cloud OS in the future) Its everybody! with a company that has so many products any shift in a different direction to get to the end goal is going to kick out people and bring in new ones, possibly kicking out gamers today to bring on-board video game developers in the future.

[Murad]

My guess is something else is a bigger threat than views; and it's most likely companies.

[rainslacker]

This actually extends beyond just gaming though. It will affect the music and movie industry and content providers as well.

However, you're probably right. Youtube will be in trouble though if cute cat videos ever go out of fashion.

If YouTube doesn't relax the policies then some other site will take up the call and capitalize off it. In the world of the internet, it doesn't take much to ruin what you have and another big player to emerge. YouTube is just going backwards, instead of adapting with the times. Which is odd coming from Google, although not entirely unexpected.

[ELpork]

I'm gonna go grab some popcorn.

[LOLzy]

Then what's the point of being able to uppload my game videos from my PS4 and Xbox One?

[wishingW3L]

niether of them upload videos to Youtube.

[True_Samurai]

What about when the update comes for it to allow to do it? What then

[LOLzy]

I didn't say they could. I said what's the point of being able to since it's coming in a update later on and we would be violating copy-right.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

You could never upload to youtube, so..

[LOLzy]

It's coming in an update.

[frostypants]

@LOLzy, well, apparently it's not now. I think that's safe to assume.

[metalmatters]

thats the thing, this is the reason PS4 and Xbone cant do it and probably never will

[ShoryuSwordsman]

Its not like we'd profit off our uploads so I see no reason for it not to come.

[Riderz1337]

Google is so god damn stupid.

[jcampanozzi87]

Now we know why Sony isn't using the share button for YouTube.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Good point.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

Looks like the internet is about to provide me with some of that good ole entertainnnnment!

[Donjune]

Does this mean I have to buy strategy guides again?

[wishingW3L]

there's always Gamefaqs. Or these people could start moving their "Let's Play" or whatever to Twitch. Twitch has achieves and is not that popular at the moment, so it's gonna be a while before the likes of Nintendo start ganging up against it.

[Vitalogy]

There are other video services and LP's and/or how to get trophy/achievement will still be made and uploaded to other services probably.

[Murad]

Really you bought strategy guides? I bought them since they looked pretty :P. But I doubt all the channels are going down.

[bunt-custardly]

All the gamers who for the love of gaming can still upload whatever they like. It's only those who invest in it financially or seek financial reward for what they do who are affected here.

[dcj0524]

It just means less content. A YouTuber called ipwnstar4hire used to rely on YouTube 100% for his money. Then he had a kid and had to get a job so slowly his videos died down and lost views. This was about 7 months ago. Now he made a new channel and upload 1-2 videos per night or 2 and he gets 10,000-20,000 views. Extra Side money. It's not as frequentcas he used to with 3-4 per day but his fans can live with it. What I'm saying is this policy is not as big as it seems face-value. Those who like doing this as a hobby can make time for it. It helps that Pwn started before the whole partner thing.

[spankdaddi]

I also watch pwn and have seen this journey of his. Where I see the potential issue for him and the other gaming content creators is that the "side money" will no longer be there. The creators will need to get their money to live and feed their families somewhere else.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Ah yes, how convenient that every single claim is valid, even when actual game publishers are saying to fight the claims. I can't believe this is happening. It's like a phantom war on something so innocent as gaming videos.

[n4rc]

There is nothing innocent about making money for doing nothing..

People did this for years without making a dime.. Now a bunch of money grubbing unemployed (probably generalizing) gamers have lost their free ride.. I'll cry myself to sleep tonight.. Lol

[TheGreenMan]

@n4rc

Just playing devil's advocate here...but by your logic, should consultants not make money either?

Consultant = "expert" who gives advice on a particular topic

Youtube uploaders = "experts" (of a particular game) who give "advice" about a game through commentary and actually playing the games

[n4rc]

Its not the same thing... Nobody is paying these people for help..

They upload a video of them playing a game.. Then spam the link all over the net trying to get views up..

Nobody is doing this to help anyone..and its not going away.. You will still see videos.. But now it just won't be Joe blow that hasn't cleared the material he's using with the owner..

Its about generating ad revenue for yourself using someone else's content.. Just because they got away with it for so long didn't mean it was acceptable..

[rainslacker]

We pay IGN, GameSpot, Game Informer, etc for the same kind of content. How are they any different?

Seriously. I've asked this in several places, yet anyone who feels the way you do can't give me a solid answer. In fact I haven't received an answer at all.

I agree if people are just uploading straight game play videos, but that's not the case here. It seems odd this comes around at a time when Sony is directly promoting uploading of straight game play videos. Why, if Sony, one of the largest console makers and media(games, movies, music) publishers in the world feels that's perfectly fine, does YouTube have a problem with it?

It even seems that quite a few devs and publishers have absolutely no issue with what some of these people are doing. They only have a problem with the monetization of their copyrighted original material(such as trailers).

Since you're out of bubbles you can respond via PM. I will re-post your response. I seriously want someone who feels the way you do to tell me the difference.

[DragonPs4]

I support awesome videocast/podcast with pieces of gameplay but youtubers like pewdie pie shouldn't be able to make money from full gameplay videos.

Reviews are fine its just the lets play and commentators that I have a problem with.

[Software_Lover]

Google is the devil and people will just not realize it until it's too late.

[tiremfej]

I agree 100% I have dropped all my reliance on Google. I do not use any products. I don't use the search engine, stopped Gmail, I never used Google+, don't use Android, would never buy Google glass...but yet people treat this all encompassing life invading company as the second coming. I sometimes wish people would wake up and realize what is happening around them, you're right no one will
until it is too late.

[EXVirtual]

Google is going to let all hell break loose with their current YT controversies.
First, they screw up the comment section, force Google+BS on us and now, they're taking down YT channels.
The YT traffic is going to see a significant dip if things keep developing this way.

[exfatal]

yea cause gamers make up such a huge percentage of youtubes community >_>

[dcj0524]

Yes it does. You are correct. I just hope YouTube doesn't become a Myspace.

[rainslacker]

Hmmm...PewDiePie has something like 17 million subscribers. Don't follow him personally, but he is the most watched channel on YouTube. Many others also have many millions of subscribers. PewDiePie and Smosh are both in the top 5.

Gaming in general makes up approximately a quarter of the top 100 subscribed channels on Youtube. Even more if you add in the Machinima channels.

I hate to say it, but gamers DO make up a very large percentage of YouTube's community. Gamers also tend to be tech savvy enough to go where the content is, and if another service becomes available, be sure that most of these providers could easily get that community to go there. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a concerted effort to do so, since it seems that their livelihood is quite literally in jeopardy.

It won't be the end of YouTube. But if something better comes along, then YouTube could become the next MySpace.

@N4rc below

views and subscribers aren't the same thing. subscribers means direct advertising for YouTube, and it's advertising affiliates, to keep those people coming back. Retention is more important. People that go to view a video aren't there for any targeted purpose.

Just for reference, Justin Beiber's channel has 7.2 million subscribers.

[Soldierone]

The also screwed up the upload process for many youtubers, and messed up the channel section for users. They also forced Youtubers into the new channel format when most of them waited till the last day because they hated it.

Lets also not forget how crappy their homepage is getting.

[n4rc]

Lmao...

Go look at the most viewed videos on YouTube... Let me know if the first useless video in question is 6 or 7 digits.. At best..

Justin fkn beiber has more views then all these vids combined.. YouTube will be just fine.. Better off depending who you ask

[Gamesgbkiller]

Could that be one of the reasons why PS4 can't upload gameplays to Youtube?

[danny818]

So i dont get it. People who rely on money they earn from youtube will no longer get any?

[MightyNoX]

Not quite. People who rely on VIDEOGAME content from youtube will no longer get any. Basically Let's Plays etc etc.

Certain 'endorsed' channels like Pew can still upload their stuff, tho.

[Murad]

Wait, so channels that are supported by let's say Polaris, is still ok, while channels that like, OMG LETS PLAY MINECRAFT, is down for the count? If so, how's that bad? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't mind gaming videos, but when you have a 13 year old kid, signing contract with google for adsense and trying to make money with Minecraft, isn't that sort of well, lazy? Or am I missing the point entirely?

[ScubaSteve1]

Well there goes my idea to start doing lets plays now

[AHall88]

You can still do it for fun. :)

[ScubaSteve1]

that's true :)

[itisallaboutps]

you can still do it and have an upper edge. sure you won't get paid for it but chances of being discovered will be better! it can be viewed as a bad thing, but on the positive side. less competition of course if you are willing to do it for free

[ScubaSteve1]

More likely I'll do it for free. I just need a good editor program

[Murad]

There's nothing wrong with doing it for fun. I mean, there's so many more people who appreciate that, then people who do it for cash.

[Orbilator]

Google needs to back off. Forcing + on people and messing with a wining formula. Shame coz its the end of YouTube, soon to be another bebo and dissapear

[tiremfej]

Sounds like someone needs to come along and upend Youtube...ala My Space/Facebook...sad thing is someone needs to come along and upend Facebook...that has gotten out of control as well...

[TwinDad]

What makes you think that the companies won't go after copyright infringement on whatever becomes the next You Tube?

Are they not going after uStream or Twitch?

[Armadilo21]

Pewdiepie is Youtubes #1 channel and yet they want to screw the youtube gamers

[TheEnigma313]

I hate that guys channel. Anyways, this sucks though.

[Rzep]

I don't like the guy either but I would never ask him to do what he does for free. I am fine with people who create regular, quality content for gamers are paid for their work.

[dillhole]

Doesn't that guy do mainly indie games? Must be strange though for devs to see a guy playing their game and screaming a lot, making $7 Million + a year. Must be annoying if your game never even made that kind of profit in the first place. I'm pretty sure they will come to an agreement though if lots of money is at stake. Everyone loves money.

[worldwidegaming]

Got hit in the pockets.
You done lost them coins!

[DxTrixterz]

R.I.P Youtube
February 2005- December 2013.

[Good-Smurf]

Sad Sad day to know that a few days from now if they do nothing about this bullshit move they made then...youtube is going to be a fucking ghost town at its gaming section...
Angry Joe is fucking ANGRY on his facebook page right now.
Still no news from PewDiePie yet but I don't think that swede douche are being affected by this though.

[leemass24]

does this only effect the channels that are making money or just gaming channels as a whole, havnt really read into it?

[CrossingEden]

Both.

[tigertron]

I might have to visit Dailymotion more often then.

[Stevino321]

I hate this, this shows how greedy YT is being, following the MS debacle with money and such. YT is pretty much sitting on top of a large lump some of cash, they're just being greedy. I don't think they'll drop the big gaming Youtubers like KYR SP33DY , Pewds, and RoosterTeeth. I hope this blows over and YT gets it together.

[Rzep]

I hope all the big gaming Youtubers abandon ship and go somewhere else with their content. Recent events have shown that someone over at Google has lost their shit.

This is another in a long line of not even questionable but full on bullshit decisions and changes implemented by Google.

[Soldierone]

I hope YT decides to let those guys have a pass, but they decide to leave anyway. It's the only way to wake up the idiots running Google.

[Rzep]

So apparently Youtube thinks its going to stay a float on the zit popping videos, vines and other short bullshit.

[mushroomwig]

Anybody else want to join me in creating the next YouTube? We'll be millionaires when we're bought by a big company!

[ScubaSteve1]

im already creating the enxt facebook has we speak

[Majin-vegeta]

But you're Homer you don't even know where the "HIT ANY KEY"is at xD.

[Soldierone]

The number one channel on Youtube is a gaming channel, several other gaming channels are their top content providers too.

If they all leave, then good, maybe Google will get their head our of their arse and realize the site got so big thanks to USER DRIVEN CONTENT and not these other companies trying to take over everything......

What's next? Can't post a Vlog because Vlog Channel owns rights to that?

[JohnS1313]

This sounds like AOL. They once were the biggest ISP. Then they got greedy and changed everything. Now look at them. Google has been making some big changes to YouTube lately like forcing their lousy Google+ on everyone. Is Google going to kill YouTube?

[Aleithian]

OK, I'm REALLY confused. Can someone please explain this in simple terms for me?

And does this mean that youtubers who make a living off let's plays of, say, Minecraft, will now be shut down? E.g. GenericB, Keralis, and the others?

Thanks in advance for the explanation(s).

[jerethdagryphon]

minecraft is 100% allowed to be monetize
as long as you add commentray

[RytGear]

People are saying that it is just stopping the money grabbing of Youtubers so it will be fine but how can you spend hours making good quality footage if you need another job that takes up most of your time. Youtube is bound to take a massive hit as if the channels I love can't upload like they use to then I and I'm sure many others will simply stop giving them any clicks and ad views.

[Agent_hitman]

RIP youtube. Your stupid policies and greediness will kill you organization..

[jmobley]

fucking ridiculous. Twitch needs to take this opportunity and allow video uploads, if they aren't pursuing this right now, they will be left in the dust by some other company.

[KillerPwned]

Congrats youtube you are destroying yourself this world is filled with greed its disgusting.

[NOPORCRU]

yeah but guys like gamegrumps and jontron, of course theyre in it for the money but they have such high production value/time its not simply recording yourself play they make actual content out of themselves playing games so this is a huge letdown on youtubes part

[metalgod88]

...If Youtube is no longer allowing you to share YOU doing whatever it is you do, then how can it still be named youtube?..I'm at a loss for words here.

[GentlemenRUs]

Can't wait for the next big video site! Youtube has had it's day and now it's time for the old girl to retire...

[TheBaseFight]

I strongly encourage everyone to rain hell upon YouTube and Google. I don't think they'll care. They've never been much of a company to care about the customers because they know, at the end of the day, we're not just going to all quit using YouTube. But, I wish we would all rebel and fight against them. I really want people in huge numbers to fight against YouTube and make them care. Don't think it'll happen though but, lets try and save it nonetheless... Please.

I did YouTube for 6 years and have made it my job for the most part youtube.com/iguitardude2744/ and YouTube just isn't enjoyable anymore. Its frustrating.

[jairusmonillas]

Youtube's buffering is annoying as hell.

[meday354]

The shit just hit tha fan, wtf!

[frankiebeans]

the only good that will possibly come out of this is that PewDiePie dude gone.

[TheEnigma313]

Talk about annoying. That guy is awful. Good videos, but the commentary is god awful.

[rataranian]

Coming soon: Ps4Tube. And XboxOneTube.

[Warj]

I'm not trying to poke the beehive here, but there seems to be a little bit of hypocrisy going on.

I fail to see how so many people are up in arms about people uploading, and making money off of, let's plays and such no longer being able to ... defending their right to make money for the content they produce.

Yet, when it comes to used games, pirating, and even some of these full play through let's plays, which deny developers and others from getting paid for THEIR work, there is silence. Or worse, justification as to why it's okay they don't make money for the content they produce.

Is taking down every trailer, review, amv, and walkthrough okay? Certainly not. I hope to see some rational thinking in regards to these copyright claims. Fan love of a property is good advertising, but outright distributing of a product is something entirely else. There needs to be a clear distinction made aware to both the content holders and their consumers.

Should we worry and make sure to be vocal in trying to keep them thinking rationally? Yes. But to try and make this about the innocent being picked on by the big evil corporations is a little too much. I'm not saying be happy about it or even to want to find a better way. I'm just saying be fair about it and hold everyone to the same standard.

[tiremfej]

...ummm I think you just talked over half the people here. Good post though.

Being a person who had a copyright infringement claim brought to him by a patent troll...I would think these copyright claims are absolutely absurd and brought on by these people. The Patent Trolls.

I do realize that recording video without consent and using it for profit is against most TOS agreements on games. However, when someone is posting hints...etc...does that really fall into the area where it's an infringement? Technically yes, realistically no. According to courts and attorneys a resounding yes.

I personally could care less as I would rather not watch an unfit, tan-less, personality lacking, tween play video-games. The whole idea of watching someone play a videogame on a computer screen on your computer screen is not only amazingly nerdy but disturbing as well.

[theinkandpen]

What is disturbing about it? I am genuinely curious, and I am not at all hit by this since I provide written content only. I fail to understand how people:

1) Thought copyright laws were going to ignore this for as long as they did

2) Thought that SOPA and PIPA were merely passing clouds without any consequence

3) Never thought of an exit-strategy

Perhaps that's just me tough...

[Warj]

Not quite sure what you meant by talk over half the people, it wasn't my intention to insult anyone so I apologize if it came across that way.

You bring up a good point about where the line is, and it is not a simple thing. Unfortunately, everything is done in broad strokes with little common sense being used.

Thank you for your reply and giving me food for thought.

[YouAppreciateMe]

Come on Cuhhhhhhhhhh

Chris Smoove :p

[Plagasx]

I'm retarded. Can someone please enlighten me as to what all this means??

[AHall88]

I think, I'm no expert on any of this, it means that people can't make money off of "let's play" videos or just about anything related to showing video game footage anymore. I'm sure I'm wrong though.

[T3MPL3TON]

Good. Catch you later. They never had a right to be making the videos anyway. You don't get to take an owned property and make money off of it unless you've struck a deal. None of them did that. Have fun on a video site nobody cares about.

[TheGOODKyle]

I've just abandoned Youtube until they change their ways. Hopefully some alternate site comes about.

[SLUG]

part is nintendo fault because they do not want their games to be seen by people on youtube thats why super smash bros is not getting a story mode in the game thats just one reason of nintendo

[static360]

Shit is about to go down

[urwifeminder]

Hope someone makes a video crying about it and puts it on the tubes.

[Underworld]

Okay, so does this mean you can no longer make walkthroughs, achievement/trophy guides, multiplayer matches and things like that, or can you just not make money off them anymore? I love watching them.

And it's quite sad that some people are happy about this and think others shouldnt make money on making videos or think they're a "sellout". Everyone wants to make money doing something they love. So if someone puts in all the time and effort to make videos and they make money by doing it then good on them and more power to them. People aren't going to be able to make as many videos if they have to seek another job to support themselves.

[SteveQuinn]

So if people want to leave YouTube where can they go to?
Vimeo/Facebook ?

[Deadpool616]

Youtube has been getting horrible ever since they combined with Google+. If they don't fix the system they better prepare for a "Mass Exodus".

[mechlord]

The hell with this. Deal with it. Cant make money playing games on youtube? fine. go make money the same way everyone on earth does. We will go back to text walkthroughs...Less spoilers anyways.

[ErryK]

Twitch for my gaming videos, Justin.tv for anything else. Case closed.

[leahcim]

guys

right now is there an alternative to youtube?

[Spitonyourgrave]

Yeah it takes so much time and creativity to come up with fart and poop jokes and cursing.
Glad these bums have to get real jobs, their gravy train is over!

[Emrage]

maybe a other company is gonna buy youtube when google realises they dont earn money anymore

[JustPhoPhun]

Wtf YouTube?

YouTube response #dealwithit

[iRobotGaming]

There goes my Future in Youtube Gaming : (

[MrPerfect813]

Well look at that...Google is evil too...

[ilovefatgirls]

strangely i have no problem with this i have no idea why could be due to the arrogance of alot of streamers and the fact they get beta keys before everyone else also the fact theyre making a mint of the back of other peoples work