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PS4 sells 80,000 in Spain since launch

Spain SONY Computer Entertainment has unveiled a MeriStation the sales data Playstation 4 in Spain since its launching him on 29 November. The machine, which is only about two weeks on sale, has placed 80,000 units.

James Armstrong, CEO of Playstation in Spain, said in an interview this morning that the ratio of units sold compared to machine competition, Microsoft Xbox One, is nearly four to one (3.5 to 1).

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mikeslemonade3787d ago (Edited 3787d ago )

"We're selling at a rate in comparison with competitors from 3.5 to 1. About twelve days of sales and them maybe 18 or 19 days of sales," adds Armstrong, remembering that new machines are being distributed each week."

No problem with supply and sold more while launching a week later in Spain. With a reported 3.5:1 that even surpasses my wildest views.

raytraceme3787d ago

Sony Dominates in Spain and pretty much everywhere else in europe at that.

BALLBAGS3787d ago

Even though nearly 4 to 1 against x box sales is crazy

Sony are hurting themselves not producing enough machines for the UK,Australia and America.

They haven't even launched in Japan yet..

ArmGunar3787d ago

Nice for Sony and the PS4 :)

Eonjay3787d ago

The world clearly wants its game consoles. I remember Sony saying that they were going to sell 3 million before the end of the year. That means that they have 900k to go... which means more stock is coming lol

maddskull3787d ago

dont forget that this Friday they will launch in even more countries so the must control their supp;ies

MWong3787d ago

@ ray
Yea the big test for Sony was in the US & UK. Those have typically been M$ dominated markets. I think the might get close to 3 million by January.

Salooh3787d ago (Edited 3787d ago )

2 more days and the ps4 will release in middle east. That's at least 300k if they put that amount of ps4's in middle east..

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assdan3787d ago

Wasn't sure if that was a little or a lot at first lol.

HaHa_Ostrich3787d ago

Exactly my thoughts. After all the "one million sold in 24hrs" articles, 80k did not sound like a lot.

Raccoon3786d ago (Edited 3786d ago )

80k sold at 400 dollars each is a huge amount! thats like selling 400 bwm 7 series sedan cars.

Baliw3785d ago

@Raccoon

Spain currency are euros, mate.

So 80k * $551

Visiblemarc3787d ago

@BALLBAGS it's just not possible to produce at that kind of rate, yet. They are currently producing at 100% capacity. The current rate of production is pretty good actually, just not enough to meet demand. It would seem they produce about half a million a month, there is definitely room for improvement there, especially if things continue to go all ps2 up in here...but if sales quiet down after the launch-rush then they'd regret dramatically expanding production. Tough call for them, though the Ps4 seems to have a big future, more units can only help, imo.

nukeitall3787d ago

Not just that, but once you ramp it up, you just don't ramp down either.

The demand right now is artificially high due to launch and then going into Christmas, so this is the highest demand part for a while, until the next holiday, so don't expect blockbuster sale for any console manufacturer after Christmas.

Ramping up can cost a lot if they are unable to shift those consoles next year, and that undoubtedly will happen.

BALLBAGS3787d ago

At mark,yes very true...I think Sony should have thought this through maybe even delayed the launch,it's not like launch games on either system are mind blowing at present

But once drive club, infamous and titan fall hit that's when these systems are going to be desirable in my opinion

ToyboxDX3787d ago (Edited 3787d ago )

@ nukeitall, how can demand be artificially high when Sony is still struggling to meet the pre-order quantity?

The PS4 will be launched in Asia this month, which will drive up further demand.

And the PS4 will also be launched in Japan in Feb which I would say to fully expect blockbuster sales as well.

Plus between now to Feb, Sony still need to produce enough units to fulfill pre-order, to put decent amount of units on retail shelves in US, Europe and Australia etc. So, yeah, I would expect Sony to ramp up production BECAUSE of demand.

MS, on the other hand, is struggling to push XBone units into the consumer's hands and as such I foresee them to scale back the production quantity, as obviously it wasn't selling as well as MS hoped.

MS is probably now rethinking their strategy on how best to remarket the XBone moving forward.

mikeslemonade3787d ago

I believe Sony always supplied the PS4 better overall because they chose come out one week earlier indicating they were more ready.

Clunkyd3787d ago

I found an xbox one at my local Walmart in Houston.
http://imgur.com/yNNwpgb

rocky0475863787d ago

Where at in Houston? Is that in the Galleria area? I'm in Houston too.

Pillsbury13787d ago

Global domination is imminent *puts pinkie to mouth*

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Enemy3787d ago

Nearly 4 to 1. DAMN, son.

kayoss3787d ago

Just imagine if Sony made more PS4, this number could be higher. Take in consideration that most of the people who buy the PS4 are gamers or "Hardcore" gamers. Unlike the situation with the Wii, where most consumers were just following the trend.

Majin-vegeta3787d ago

Go SONY

Give me an S give an O give me an N give me a Y.

What does that spell?Sony

Yay Sony.

OT:Man Sony must be working overtime over9000!!

ashcroft3787d ago

That was so lame, you should be embarassed!

The Killer3787d ago

i support ps4, but that comment was so childish.

i think after some years he will grow up, so give him time.

ThunderSpark3787d ago

I think his little sister stole his laptop again smh

KakashiHotake3787d ago

I'm digging the humor. Give me a P, give me S, give me a 4...What does that spell? Greatness Awaits!

Majin-vegeta3787d ago

Apparently the people above don;t have humor.I hate to be at a party with them.Seems like they're the party poopers -_-.

GirlOnFire3787d ago

Burn! Xbox how are you going to catch up now? ;)

KakashiHotake3787d ago

lol I'm with you man. I wanna see the Xbone burn too.

jjonez183787d ago (Edited 3787d ago )

Everyone knows that destruction is in the Uchiha blood ;)
Nah but seriously, xbox hasn't been the most consumer-friendly console maker. But each side has their own radicals, and each has something to gripe about.

DigitalRaptor3787d ago (Edited 3787d ago )

They aren't - it's that simple.

Sony started working on PS4 in 2008. Microsoft on Xbone, in 2010. Sony was going to release this year, and Microsoft wasn't. Xbox One had slip ups, and 180s that have caused the console to receive a number of pretty awful setbacks and I don't think they were even remotely prepared for the consumer reaction to their anti-consumer policies and their plans and the way in which Sony cleverly won the people over.

Remember all those awful negatives PS3 had on its side? Terrible marketing, high price point, a perception of no games, a problematic online network, slow installs, insane journalistic/media bias. It still managed to outsell the 360 year-on-year for the majority of its time on the market, and has outsold it in recent years. Sony consoles have always sold better.

And now that none of those negatives are really in Sony's side of the court, there should be no surprise that Sony will continue to stomp them year-after-year - especially after all the bad decisions MS has dragged along with them, as well as the negative publicity that goes along with that.

Sony has the dedicated gaming console on their side. They have the better policies for developers and for gamers by an English country mile. They have the best support from all facets of game development. AAA, indie, MMO, free-to-play, Japan etc. They have the most powerful and flexible console that will continue to grow each year with services, just as XBL grows and sorts out its part chat problems and adds features that were also selling points of the console. Microsoft is behind in so many respects that I find it strange they are meant to be the one touting "future-proof".

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot13h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke197h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke193h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

-Foxtrot55m ago

"Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs"

He's literally just told you why

We're waiting like 15 years before a sequel comes out, it's insane

Skyrim came out in 2011, the next game is expected to come out in 2027 at the earliest so that's 16 years apart while Fallout 4 came out in 2015 and might not release until 2031, again 16 years.

We're fine with Bethesda trying new things and doing new IPs like Starfield but adding a new game to the cycle now means a bigger wait. Also Starfield didn't meet most peoples expectations, can you imagine waiting 15 years or so for a sequel and it's disappointing? It would feel even worse because you would have to wait another 15 years to see if they manage to come back from it.

They need to give it to another developer, we don't need main numbered titles but a spin off of Fallout and Elder Scrolls should be cycled in between the long gaps of the main releases.

Once again you are making out people want these games as quick as possible when all we want is a standard development time of at least 4 years or so rather than waiting 15.

mandf4h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor6h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave5h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor3h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

-Foxtrot52m ago

@Skuletor

Who's saying to rush the releases? No one is saying that...

People just don't want to be waiting 15 years for a sequel, they aren't working on the game for that long, you do realise that right? The issue isn't coming down to them working on the game and us "rushing them", it's the fact they are working on other games like Starfield now meaning bigger gaps before they even get started on them.

I bet you any more Elder Scrolls VI only entered full development last year when Starfield was finished despite being announced in 2018.

Duke193h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai5h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris4h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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