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This Is How Long The Line Was For PlayStation 4 Outside Sony Center In Berlin

PlayStation 4 has been officially launched in Europe. Sony's next-generation console has seen nothing short of praise and miracles. Selling over a million units to customers in just 24 hours in North American region, Fergal Gara, PlayStation UK's Managing Director stated that in UK alone the record may break.

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MajorAly3800d ago

This line is just the calm before the storm...before the karken was released.

Hatsune-Miku3800d ago (Edited 3800d ago )

Europeans queue up for quality not rubbish

Ps4 is the future and the future is ps4

MajorAly3800d ago

@neonridr

My bad, fast fingers messed it up.

Thank you for the correction.

avengers19783800d ago

Can't imagine being at the end of that thing

Narutone663799d ago

Now, I'm worried that there won't be enough PS4 for the Asian market.

tarbis3799d ago

I'm more worried about not having enough money for one.

Neonridr3800d ago

agreed, but they weren't very tightly packed. Lots of places had huge gaps in the line. Regardless, imagine being the person at the back of that line? Even if they were able to secure a console, to go through that many transactions in front of them would have taken like 5 hours or something, lol.

LOL_WUT3800d ago

Come on man if that's not a big line then I don't know what is. Gaps? Lol ;)

Neonridr3800d ago (Edited 3800d ago )

Wow, I love how unless I say something that's 100% supportive I get jumped all over. I merely said that the line up wasn't tightly packed. That doesn't change how many people were in the line, that would remain constant no matter how tightly they were packed. I was simply indicating that the line wouldn't have stretch as FAR as it did if the people weren't leaving several feet between them and the people in front of them.

Why o why3800d ago

Does any one stockist really have that many units in stock....I agree with neon.....gunna be a long night for those near the middle and end of the line. In the uk is pretty blitz....I'm assuming its colder in Berlin.....that pizza bill would eradicate sonys profits..lol

KUV19773800d ago

I was there and waited almost the complete line. The event was terribly organized. They said they had so many consoles that almost anyone should get one. They wanted to sell from 6pm to 3am. Then they started selling at 7pm. Sold ultraslow so that it seemed like they had a lot and from 11pm almost nothing happened anymore. Then the cops arrived and within minutes they told us that there were no more consoles available. Guestimates say there have been 5.000 people and ony 1.200 consoles. Needless to say that I didn't get a console and the ones in the front who bought one had someone with them for a second console which they sold way more expensive to the end of the line... Just freakin terrible event... In the UK they at least gave out blankets and pizza. In Berlin they gave out... in alphabetical order: that's it.

Neonridr3800d ago

That's terrible. How long were you in line for total then?

KUV19773800d ago (Edited 3800d ago )

Just shy over 7 hours, I'd say. We were 'lucky' that when rumors spread that there are no more consoles a big chunck of the line in front of us went home. My PS4 came from Amazon today, so it's no biggie for me, but I waited with a friend who had preordered in February and was told two days prior that his store wouldn't get enough consoles. So he drove 7 hours to Berlin, waited 7 hours and didn't get anything...

In an FAQ before they answered the question if it made sense to come at all when you couldn't arrive before 8pm with 'we have plenty of consoles. anyone should get one'. Now we arrived at around half past 4 and didn't get anything... I seriously can't see how that could have been just terrible planning but rather misinformation on purpose to have a nice long line for promoshots.

rainslacker3799d ago

Maybe they didn't expect 5000 people to show up. I dunno man. I see things like this from time to time for popular products, and I wonder why people wait for this stuff. Where I live, and I'd wager for a majority of non big-city stores, it just never gets like this. I personally couldn't even fathom standing around for that long, or driving for 7 hours for anything.

Feel bad for your friend though. That does suck big time. I do know that if I saw a half kilometer long line, I'd just go home. Surprised the scalpers didn't get their asses kicked from angry customers that actually were there for actual demand.

Retroman3799d ago (Edited 3799d ago )

@ neonridr

ehhhh, have you heard of personal space?? arm length space?? if i recall it was taught in elementary school.

kingdip903800d ago

And I thought the line last night at walmart for black Friday was long! Holy moly!!!

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers4h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

z2g45m ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing12m ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H937m ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg16h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos16h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola11h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies20d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken20d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga20d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken20d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6420d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long20d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197220d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12520d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91320d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer20d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher20d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher20d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken20d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2320d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218320d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder20d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts20d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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