Fighter Within on Xbox One, Now With 60% Less Flailing

The verdict is it's a dramatic improvement on the Gamescom version. The game is far more responsive than it was in August, presumably as much a result of Microsoft's refinement of Kinect 2.0 as anything else. Punches feel almost instantaneous and even slower or more complex gestures like uppercuts and roundhouse kicks land reliably, if a moment after you've finished the movement

[GarrusVakarian]

That still looks pretty unresponsive, responsiveness is a MAJOR factor in a fighting game, you need to be able to plan your next move as your current move is being made....you can't do that if you have to wait half a second for your move to appear on screen. All i see is flailing, same as the off screen footage from months back. *Kicks in real life....half a second later the character kicks*.

Im sorry, but in my opinion from what ive seen so far.....this game looks like garbage.

[Eonjay]

Burn it with fire.

[mattdillahunty]

it's disappointing that the experience doesn't match this concept, because this is one of those true next gen experiences that i want consoles to deliver. meaning it's not just a bump up in graphics, but a new way to experience and interact with a video game.

the problem is its execution--it looks unresponsive, and the people playing it look kinda silly in their movements.

[darthv72]

it always seems odd when just watching these vids. i used to think kinect wasnt very good from the look of things until i actually tried it. once you use one and i mean really use one, it actually works.

From what i have read, this one is much more responsive. Im keeping an open mind but i reserve the right to be on the fence with this game. Have to play it myself to really know for sure.

[nukeitall]

@matt:

I think fighting game translates badly using any motion based system. Why?

You can't do backflips or hadokens or anything else, so that automatically makes you look silly.

I think a game like boxing, ala Punch Out, would have been fantastic with Kinect One or maybe fencing. I'm hoping someone will make one.

[jackanderson1985]

ive always been an advocate for the kinect (i've personally enjoyed it in quite a few games) but yeah this game needs to be destroyed now and never shown again... this alone would make u want to destroy the kinect

[LonChaneyTV]

they look like they're having fun.

[Shadonic]

it seems like there depending too much on the one to one which really wouldnt work with a game similar to tekken like this. The kinect street fighter MOD has less lag than this and has a very very small delay that's only a couple of milliseconds at most. The game really needs some sort of stamina bar and a reduction on the exact one to one in game stuff. It could work for something like fight night but not this especially when 99% of the players are going to be playing like motorcycle punches McGee up there.

Graphics wise I wouldn't say it looks Garbage until I've seen it in person, still looks better than COD Ghost so its something >.>

[M-M]

Is the first clip Rihanna and Chris Brown?

[Bigpappy]

When you use a gesture, you have to let it complete before you are allowed to start your next action. But punches are real time. The developer explain that they did this to allow for special moves that most people would not be able to pull of. Most previews that I have seen so far are positive. We will see reviews soon. I am expecting 6's and 7's instead of 1's and 3's out of 10. Good enough for casual fun. Great for kids.

[GarrusVakarian]

Punches are definitely not real time....you can plainly see that from the footage. There is a clear gap between the punch (or flail) and the punches on screen.

7's? No way. 4's and 5's is more realistic in my opinion.

[Bigpappy]

I will wait for the reviews. What you are seeing here is from 2 different cams and the frame rate on said cams look very laggy. I am not saying your are wrong, but people who have played it, including the person the person who wrote the article, have a different opinion than you. I just prefer to go with them over you on this one.

What I would like to see, are to competitive people playing. People who had enough time to learn the full move set and timing.

[nukeitall]

Perception of lag is also different with motion based games.

What you see and feel is very different things.

Even if the game was 100% real time, you would still feel laggy especially from videos, because gamers are trained to have instant reaction using buttons i.e. what happens in your brain is translated faster to you finger presses than your body can move.

That means, when you are playing it, you won't feel the lag, because your body has a higher tolerance for lag.

[ps3vita4life]

AC Black Flag reference at 0:05 for the third clip? Anyways, this game looks really bad. Not surprising though cause kinect sucks!

[Godmars290]

The game looks good for the party game that it is, but that's it. Its clearly all but playing itself in some parts.

Those who want to praise it do so all you want, but just admit if only to yourself that this isn't going to be popular beyond non-gamers. That it will be quickly forgotten.

[u got owned]

so bad. hehe

[RedSoakedSponge]

this looks terrible lol. why do microsoft keep insisting on making kinect fighting games? it just makes the tech look bad.

[Shadonic]

I believe it can work just not like this. There's really no restrictions stopping a player from just punching fast constantly for the whole match for the who. If there were a sort of stamina bar that worked with the amount of force the player was using as its been shown with kinect then it could be more fair and less of the Ip man style punching we see. Hopefully another developer will fix these issues.

[hiybbprqag]

Fun Casual game...nuff said.

[jetlian]

I cant believe ubisoft wants 60 for it. Ill get it at around 20-30. heres a vid

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[StifflerK]

This really reminds me of Power up heroes on the x360 , it's more like you're using body movements to perform commands rather than 1:1 fighting .

Not the kind of thing that'll take me away from Killer Instinct , but it looks like a big improvement over Power Up H.

That said - Kinect Sports boxing on the x360 worked well , I would really , really like to see a next gen Fight Night with Kinect 2 controls !

[pyramidshead]

Kinect games are always going to be flawed due to lag and response. Especially after they've hyped kinect up so much and boasted a lagless experience.

[JRH7783]

Sooooo..... You just swing and the game plays in CPU mode from what I see...

[buynit]

Im all for kinect but not for fighting games... I dont mind the kinect sports or rivals, what ever its called, kind of games where you dont use the controller but thats as far as it should go with out a controller..

[creid2352]

It probably would help if the people playing actually knew a little about fighting.

[rainslacker]

Or would just act like they were actually trying to fight instead of "flailing". Seriously, who would fight like this if they had to fight? Are there actually that many people out there that have no concept of a defensive stance, or that you throw a punch fairly level in the kinds of punches they're doing?

As to the people above, it's still not 1 to 1, regardless of lag. The guy throws several "punches" straight out and down, and the guy on screen does a low side hook.

Jesus, I think people are just desperate to validate Kinect by latching onto whatever crap comes along. That's not how you get good games made. Otherwise, I'm sure it's a decent party game and a lot of fun when drunk.

[creid2352]

Couldn't have said it better.

[ic3fir3]

the playability of the game is different, we need to finish the right moves and then the game responds, if not complete the whole move does nothing

[FITgamer]

I'm not sure how that would be fun to anyone. It's much more fun to spar for real, unless you don't like getting hit.

[Bigpappy]

Warning! If you are going to spar with a female, make sure you have your eyes and nutts covered.

[FITgamer]

There are few girls i've sparred with at my gym, i'll hit them with usually 60% power, they hit back with 110% lol.

[I_am_Batman]

Goty