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Cboat Hints at DRM Functionality Still Being Present on Xbox One Games

Karam Elahi from SpawnFirst reports: "Well, he just laid another one on us, especially considering the rumors about Call of Duty not being playable at all in offline mode. Check out the pretty strong statement that he shadily confirms (as he always does; his confirmations are usually vague, but when he comments on what he thinks people have assumed to be correct, he’ll lay it out there) out there about DRM, that it might not exist on the Xbox One, but that some games themselves might still be able to make use of DRM features."

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MorePowerOfGreen3817d ago

CBOAT said XB1 UI was a mess and wouldn't work for years.

Enemy3817d ago ShowReplies(11)
GTgamer3817d ago

I heard months not years :/

Blacksand13816d ago

The XB1 is 720p with a 1080p up-scaled because MS tried to make it a t.v hub first and a gaming console second. My Fios is 720p reg. channels and 1080p on HD channels. When you mix the two that's what you get 720p with a up-scaled of 1080p, because of t.v part of the console.

nveenio3816d ago

I feel like day one patches for BOTH consoles are really just a way to get people to go online. That's why features are missing at launch. Sure, you can play some games on your console, but the extra stuff means you've got to plug in at least once.

No biggie. It just seems a little bit of an obvious method, and both parties are doing it.

ShinMaster3816d ago

@ inveni0

Nope, not "BOTH". You can update your PS4 by dowloading the update from any computer and saving to a USB drive or you can have a disc mailed to you.
So technically, your PS4 doesn't have to go online.

C0LLAT3816d ago

ALSO... the patch isn't NEEDED to play single player games on the PS4.

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hulk_bash19873817d ago

But wouldn't the issue be that the xbox one requires a day one update in order to work? Or at least that's my understanding of it.

Blackdeath_6633816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

yeah that was confirmed by a Dev "the xbone will not ship with an os, end of." i think that was the quote couldn't find original link but this one confirms the same thing http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

TomShoe3816d ago

Will the shit-storm ever end with the Xbone?

Now this is getting ridiculous.

lokirevamped3816d ago

You must say IMHO when you type information that makes sense.

BoriboyShoGUN3817d ago

Yeah but if this is true would'nt that cause a shit storm the minute people could'nt play offline? I dont trust MS at all, but I think they just restricted the guys console until closer to release so he couldnt show what they didnt want out there yet!

hulk_bash19873817d ago (Edited 3817d ago )

@MrFairness

Going by your comment history I now see that yours is a trolls account. Ignoring now.

NeoTribe3817d ago

Judging by your comment history, I think your the one full of shit. Cboat has nailed every other x1 related disaster. Wouldnt surprise me if he's spot on again.

BBBirdistheWord3816d ago

@ Mrfairness

agreed
Cboat is full of shit.

miklo843816d ago

Crazy Buttocks On A Train, full of shit, Nah. He's been on point on most stuff. Still comes down to the individual and their preference as to which system to buy. Personally, hasn't deterred me from day one XBone purchase. DRM never affected me personally since I have not lent out any games in years and most often times buy the games I want when they first come out. Do you.

BBBirdistheWord3816d ago

Nah Cboat is full of shit. His strike rate has been about 50%.

I can do that too.
Sorry fanboys.

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Gore-Content3817d ago (Edited 3817d ago )

No bubbles for you to reply? Aawwwww...

OT: He was right with the 720p thing on the xbone.

kenmid3816d ago

@neotribe like the Xbone UI being a mess

G20WLY3816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

^Kenmid, I think you're being a bit harsh.

Okay, it's not a patch on the PS4's UI, but I wouldn't agree with you that XBone UI is "a mess" entirely...

AngelicIceDiamond3817d ago

Well you can't deny that MS console still requires a connection to some games.

Either way is seems like MS will have there way eventually.

Why cant MS do this.

The option to DRM, or to not DRM. An on and off switch of sorts.

rainslacker3817d ago

I guess it depends on if it lets you play the game's SP without connecting to the internet. MP is obvious. If not, then that just means that the publishers can decide to implement this stuff on their own. Something as I recall Sony said they will leave up to the publishers to implement, but will not support it on a system wide level.

We already see "connectivity" features being introduced into SP, but not sure if any are completely mandatory yet. Possibly testing the waters?

Seems odd the article mentioned COD though. Aren't COD games one of the few 3rd party games that didn't ship with an online passes?

imt5583817d ago (Edited 3817d ago )

CBOAT said that XO UI will probably be FIXED until launch. Guess what? It's FIXED. Move along!

BG115793816d ago

Then there was no reason to ban any oe that received their xbones early.

H0RSE3816d ago

Yes there was... The device has a release date for a reason. Stop approaching it from a personal/emotional standpoint, and view it for what it is - a business standpoint.

Those people chose to use their consoles early. They also chose to post pics and vids online, which is likely the bigger issue.

dantesparda3816d ago

Wow, Horse, you're a bigger fanboy than i could have ever thought, pathetic! Talk about a company shill!

imt5583817d ago

Albert Penello on GAF :

For sure this has nothing to do with requiring a connection. There is no "DRM removal" in the Day One update because none of the consoles were ever built with that stuff in it.

WHY DAY ONE UPDATE THEN????

Insomnia_843816d ago

WTF IS THIS???

First they say the day one update would remove the DRM crap and now this???

WHAT THE FKC MICROSOFT????????

Seriously, who the hell with a bit of brain is going to get into this XBone sht with Microsht??????

This company loses my respect every single effing day!!

Whoever takes that chair at Microsoft, please sell the Xbox division for the good of gaming and the company itself!

HolyDuck3816d ago

I really don't know what you're getting at?

PS4 has a day one update to add basic functionality, should PS4 not have a day one update either?

Why does it matter if consoles have a day one update, stop crying.

bjmartynhak3817d ago

Post from neogaf:

"The person who got this console a full two weeks ahead of schedule downloaded some sort of pre-release OS. This pre-release OS allowed him to play games. A new pre-release OS was pushed to systems. His system was not authorized to access this pre-release OS because he isn't a dev/etc. Therefore he lost the functionality to play games and/or do shit."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Simple as this. Day one update is yes!, to remove DRM. They might have removed from the system, but there is still something in the game, as CBOAT seems to have agreed.

imt5583816d ago

XO is without OS. So, it's OS update. What about DRM.

imt5583816d ago

In that case, that means only one thing : Xbone isn't entirely finished and Microsoft rushed Xbone just to meet launch in time against PS4.

But still, why console was bricked 24 hours after he playing COD : Ghosts. That's interesting.

n4rc3816d ago

Because people shouldn't be playing an unreleased game?

And neither is finished.. Sony is patching in features just like microsoft.. Given the massive changes ms has made, it seems likely they are under a time crunch

Mosiac773816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

I think I remembered Microsoft saying back in august that the xb1 will need to be updated on day one to get rid of the DRM and other futures that the gaming community was complaining about. So yes it might still be there until the system officially launches next week.

hakis863816d ago

Mr. Crazy Buttocks On A Train... truth?

Agent13816d ago (Edited 3816d ago )

On another note that Cboat doesn't want you to know..

http://www.neowin.net/news/...

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Godmars2903817d ago

You'd think that if he actually knew he would have said something well before an actual possible incident.

Hicken3817d ago

Well, he doesn't know, or, as the article says, "when he comments on what he thinks people have assumed to be correct, he’ll lay it out there." But he does speculate.

theWB273817d ago

Both systems have the feature and leave it up to the devs...he was flat out wrong about all the nonsense he helped stir up with the system not being ready...so this is the string he clings to. It's time to give up the doom and gloom.

wishingW3L3817d ago (Edited 3817d ago )

This guy's on-point with the rumors. I wouldn't even touch the XB1 with a 10 foot pole.

Jeedai Infidel3817d ago

Then don't. Why is this our business? Go check out some PS4 news, if that's what your buying.

Jeedai Infidel3816d ago

Master-H, thanks, I usually point out grammatical and spelling errors, so I welcome fellow supporters of the proper use of the English language.

MAULxx3816d ago

I wouldn't touch it with a 20 foot pole with gloves on.

Sitdown3816d ago

Even if you did, why would you? Its video games not pile vaulting.

Caleb_H3816d ago

I'm a ps4 fan, but when I saw the x1 on display at my Target I couldn't help but touch it. It's so much more sleek in person and it really does look great. The kinect is small and everything looks nice together, plus it looks pretty solid. I was almost seduced, and then I stepped back, and thought to myself, "Do I really wanna pay 100 more dollars and play games at lower resolutions? No. I don't." And I walked away hoping never to see that disgusting box ever again.

iamnsuperman3817d ago

Is this really a hint? I know he is shaddy but he isn't this shoddy.

Sarobi3817d ago

Yeah I think people are looking to hard into that reply.

danny8183817d ago (Edited 3817d ago )

I find it insane that microsoft has been plagued with rumors from start to finish ahahah thats six. I feel bad for them

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot13h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke198h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke193h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

-Foxtrot1h ago

"Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs"

He's literally just told you why

We're waiting like 15 years before a sequel comes out, it's insane

Skyrim came out in 2011, the next game is expected to come out in 2027 at the earliest so that's 16 years apart while Fallout 4 came out in 2015 and might not release until 2031, again 16 years.

We're fine with Bethesda trying new things and doing new IPs like Starfield but adding a new game to the cycle now means a bigger wait. Also Starfield didn't meet most peoples expectations, can you imagine waiting 15 years or so for a sequel and it's disappointing? It would feel even worse because you would have to wait another 15 years to see if they manage to come back from it.

They need to give it to another developer, we don't need main numbered titles but a spin off of Fallout and Elder Scrolls should be cycled in between the long gaps of the main releases.

Once again you are making out people want these games as quick as possible when all we want is a standard development time of at least 4 years or so rather than waiting 15.

mandf5h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor6h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave5h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor3h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

-Foxtrot1h ago

@Skuletor

Who's saying to rush the releases? No one is saying that...

People just don't want to be waiting 15 years for a sequel, they aren't working on the game for that long, you do realise that right? The issue isn't coming down to them working on the game and us "rushing them", it's the fact they are working on other games like Starfield now meaning bigger gaps before they even get started on them.

I bet you any more Elder Scrolls VI only entered full development last year when Starfield was finished despite being announced in 2018.

Duke193h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai5h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris5h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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