Microsoft engineer confirms that the Xbox One will be able to drive the PlayStation 4 just fine

PA - "So the question my son had about the Xbox One, and I thought it was pretty goofy at the time, was whether you’d be able to hook up the PlayStation 4 to the Xbox One to play Killzone while taking advantage of the other features that come with the Xbox One."

[Snookies12]

Lawl... That's pretty hilarious, and kind of awesome in a way.

[kneon]

Sure it will work, by why would you want to? It's just going to introduce extra lag.

[theWB27]

The article states no lag that the eye can detect. He states he and his son play the 360 through the X1 all the time.

Article titles only tell so much. Click to read more...it won't hurt.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I guess you would know best, since you clearly did engineering on the project, and you obviously, OBVIOUSLY read the article.

[kneon]

There will always be extra lag when passing through another device, how much depends on the device. But still what's the point?

[theWB27]

The point? Some people don't have flat screens with enough HDMI ports. If they happen to get both systems and have a cable box, but their tv only has two ports. Wow, look at that..you can plug the cable box into the X1 and have the PS4 use the last port.

Boom...3 HDMI devices hooked into a 2 HDMI tv. Simple stuff really...

[Scatpants]

You could get xbox live notification while playing PS4 you could also switch back and forth from PS4 to xbox one with voice commands. I will probably do this when my Xbone comes in the mail. If the lag isn't noticable why wouldn't you? I'm only debating weather to hook my HTPC or my PS4 to it.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

@WB

Or you can use a 5 bucks HDMI switch and have no added lag at all (visible or not)... Just saying.

[FriedGoat]

@WB
I hate it when people try to tell me I can't see lag, maybe it's my history of fast paced twitch shooters such as quake, but I can tell the difference from 10ms to 20ms. If I can get it lower by directly connecting it to a TV, that's what I'll do. Why be at a disadvantage by stupidly putting it through a pointless device?

[Prime157]

I know you're taking a lot of heat for this comment because apparently an MS employee (which would most likely lose his job if he didn't imply otherwise) said this.

I, just, am skeptical. I'm not saying that I'm completely doubtful, but I would like to actually feel it in action. As someone who was really competitive in FPS games (like CS1.6 and stuff, I've learned that even 1-5ms, yes 1ms, can really throw off your game.

Think about it, if you and your opponent both have a 15ms reaction time, but your rig has a 1-2ms delay more than his/her's... you're going to die more often than not.

[rainslacker]

OK, but didn't a while back when one PR guy was asked if you could hook up a PS4(or was it a 360) to the system said you could, but it would possibly have some lag due to the nature of HDMI passthrough?

Edit:
Yep, indeed. Penello said this in September.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech...

[UltimateMaster]

"Once the dust settles, we'll show how you can have 1080p games on the Xbox One."

And that is by plugging your PS4's HDMI to the input of your Xbox One and there you go, 1080p games for the Xbox One.

[devwan]

“It is an extremely small lag that the human eye will not be able to perceive,”

Would that be the same kind of "imperceptible" lag that Kinect introduces?

http://abload.de/img/kinect...

Yeah, no thanks.

[Gamingcapacity]

I don't like the idea of paying for the electric to run 2 consoles just to get an extra HDMI port.

Actually not sure I can afford 2 console lol.

[Funantic1]

Probably less lag than the vita remote play

[pixelsword]

"It’s fun to make someone from Microsoft squirm a bit by asking these questions. So I can play games using a competitor’s console while using all these neat Xbox One features? “Um, you could...”"

Great! Now I just need a reason to want to switch from the PS4 to the Xbox One.

Just kidding. :)

Has anyone noticed that there seems to be some underpinnings, I am almost willing to go as far to say almost subliminal, effort to make people think that Killzone: Shadow Fall is on the Xbox One? This article is worded like some things I've read, seen, and actually heard over the months...

I mean, just look at the way the first paragraph is worded, and look at that pic they use.

then what about that MS ad?

http://www.sonyrumors.net/2...

There's something to all of that.

...curious.

[Blackdeath_663]

its pretty amazing for people who are buying both you get best of both worlds

[justSumDood]

"...Xbox One will be able to drive the Playstation 4..."

Awesome! Can i have it dropped off at my house sometime before launch?

[snipab8t]

This is awesome, I would totally do this if I could afford to buy both consoles.

[Blaze929]

this is actually pretty useful. I'll be getting both PS4 and XB1 but holding on to my PS3 and 360 as well. I don't think I have enough HDMI ports

[Jaqen_Hghar]

"it can have a PS4 plugged in to it!"

MS's first bullet on the store ads

[solid_snake3656]

Why would anyone run the ps4 through such inferior device

[mrpsychoticstalker]

Loooooool

Entertainment:  Much to the chagrin of gamers everywhere, Microsoft chose to focus on TV and entertainment options in its Xbox One reveal rather than games. But by now, we know that the system has games and, exclusives aside, they’re a lot of the same games the PS4 has. A wealth of entertainment options, complete with Kinect controls, represent a valuable expansion to the capabilities that Microsoft slowly added to the Xbox 360 over the course of the previous generation. Microsoft’s partnerships with the likes of Time Warner Cable, Verizon Fios, Comcast Xfinity and the NFL make this a very attractive option to gamers with cable. Plus, a Halo series produced by Spielberg is hard to argue with.
Add in MP3 support, DLNA streaming and audio CDs, and Xbox One can handily serve as an entertainment hub for the whole living room. I play games as much as anyone, but I still use my console for a whole lot of other things. It’s worth making those things a priority as well.

[joe90]

Every Sony exclusive playable on Xbox. lol

[mrpsychoticstalker]

THE ONE TO RULE THEM ALL.

[-Foxtrot]

"What do you play on the PS4 the most"

"Oh I can't decide...Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, Assassins Creed 4, Battlefield 4, a load of indie games"

"What about your Xbox"

".............Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, Assassins Creed 4, Battlefield 4, a load of indie games"

lol

[KwietStorm_BLM]

The whole thing is a meme in the oven.

[-Foxtrot]

Yo I heard you like your consoles, so we put a PS4 in your Xbox One so you can play on a PS4 while your on your Xbox One

....something like that

[GuruMeditation]

@-Foxtrot like it, but to fit the meme its gotta be "Yo Dawg, I heard you like games? So I put a game in your game so you can game while you game. In 1080p."

[mistertwoturbo]

This is all in good fun, but seriously nobody's going to buy a $500 hdmi port. Lol

[Edward75]

True fanboy statement. Mistertwoturbo.

So much hate from both sides, your comment says it all.

"Oh no, the 500 dollars is only an HDMI port!!"

Think about the only reason you would say that... One that makes sense. And reply.

Both systems will do well, and it will be nice to have both running. Not just as an hdmi port, but running through, and possibly split screen. Even possibly being able to switch from an mmo. I'll be playing on PS4 (ff14) to a game like dead rising, then pause and go back to 14 when the duty finder notifies me.

The best feeling is going to be having both to even try this, to see if it is viable. Not just putting up statements like yours mistertwoturbo.

[mistertwoturbo]

^The only real fanboy is you for not being able to take a joke.

[Edward75]

Well I guess, I always say , "but seriously" before my jokes.

That was sarcastic.

[UNKLE]

PS4:lots of multiplatform game and 2-3 exclusive? no thx...PC better

[Jaqen_Hghar]

20 exclusives from first party in the first year actually (ie not even counting The Order or the Indies or Deep Down since those aren't first party studios) 12 of which are new IP

[Major_Glitch]

PC better? Lol. Yeah...no. I like gaming on my big screen while sitting on my couch.

[GribbleGrunger]

That's amusing and quite clever. Bubble.

[JediDiah]

"I want the Best of Both worlds"....Van Halen!

[Godmars290]

Xbox One: the $500 game console dongle.

Edit:
Yeah, bit surprising they don't mention the WiiU. Just for the heck of it.

[phoenix_dusk]

Kind of accurate. LMAO

[nerdeu]

I just invented a new name:

XBOX ONE ... MORE CHANGE

[AceofStaves]

Great news for people who are going to own both consoles.

[Jeedai Infidel]

And/or need a extra HDMI slot.

[Smartypants]

I used the power of the cloud to crop dust a few unsuspecting people in the elevator at work this morning. Never underestimate the power of the cloud.

[minty-hippo]

If only there could be cross-console multiplayer, you could set up a Battlefield 4 LAN match between the PS4 and Xbox One, all on the same screen! A true console war, ohhhhhhhhh yeah! http://i.imgur.com/ezEOV1K....

[bigboirock]

you can do that if your tv has pip then all you would need is cross platform multilayer

[andibandit]

The pip and pap sux on my bravia sux, but its from 2006 thinking of getting a samsung

[infectedaztec]

One console to rule them all...

[HighResHero]

This is like someone was saying yesterday,
You just plug the PS4 into the Xbone HDMI and it will upscale your games into 1080p for you.

[fenome]

The PS4 has an upscaler built in as well, it just doesn't have to use it as often :)

My blu-ray player also upscales dvds, can I tell a difference? Night and day.

[HighResHero]

What? I was making a joke about PS4 being their secret sauce upscaler :]
I see I could have worded it differently.
I agree that Blu Rays are much prettier in (native) 1080P than upscaled DVDs.

[fenome]

I was just being an ass, bored till launch. You know how it is :p

[ShwankyShpanky]

Question is, does the Xbone pass through the full 1080p native? No downscaling/upscaling?

[obelix01]

That's actually really cool.

[Belking]

So the only way to enjoy ps4 is through the xbox1...lol. Awesome.

HDMI in is gonna come in handy next gen.

[aaron5829]

No... its the other way round...

To really enjoy xbone is... connect a ps4 into it.

[HighResHero]

Exactly.

[s8anicslayer]

@aaron bubbles up

[Naga]

If the consoles can get along, why can't we?

[Smashbro29]

But will it output the full signal? Also some lag is till lag add that to your TV and it may be too much lag.

[andibandit]

Good point, for the past months weve been hearing ppl talking about how they will use vita with remote play on their ps4, and ive hardly heard anyone mention the lag it will introduce.....now we have diffrent situation with ms and its OMG THE LAG........

[Smashbro29]

Considering Sony addressed that lag over a local environment will be minimized (they said the Vita and PS4 were specially tuned for it) I don't see why anyone would ask.

I heard reports that anything you put into that HDMI port is 900p upscaled.

[Ace_Pheonix]

So quite literally, the PS4 is giving it to XBOX, and the XBOX is taking it!

[Sky Lazarus]

this must be the secret sauce! bone lives vicariously through ps4. that awesom ps4 feed passing through the bone would be like only getting to smell your favorite pizza, just a bit out of reach.

[RandomDude655]

Yum 1080 slices

[OrangePowerz]

I believe that there is no lag when I see it.

[LogicStomper]

But if you don't see it, how do you see that you don't see any lag?

O.o

[Frogman]

So in an indirect way Xbox is backwards compatible. They should advertise this feature, wouldn't hurt.

[isa_scout]

Yeah man, I never even thought of that. MS should be advertising this feature. It could drive more sales of the XOne and 360 this holiday season. +bubble interesting.

[devwan]

Backwards compatible to all game consoles with HMDI out*

*actual hardware required for backwards compatibility.

Smells just like a ms PR campaign in the making, well done!

/s

[isa_scout]

This is actually pretty damn cool. I'll get the Xbox One next year, and it's nice knowing that I will be able to plug my PS4 into my XOne without the need to take up another one of my TVs HDMI inputs. Gotta say it's gonna feel pretty weird though.

[isa_scout]

This is just bull#@%* I have more disagrees than agrees because why? Oh no, I mentioned something cool and good about the XOne. Fanboys need to lighten up and move on. I clearly plan to buy the PS4 first(look t my avatar or hell even my name) but either way it shouldn't matter. People should buy what works for them,what they're excited for. If you have a problem with someone liking the XOne more then that's a problem with YOU,not them. The only people that get angry or troll articles about the XOne are the people who are apparently worried about something not working on the PS4 so they troll these articles to make themselves feel better.
This is a cool feature.Period. Sad thing is if this was a PS4 feature instead of a XOne feature you guys would love it.

[chito1016d]

I intend to get both within 6 months so that is pretty awesome for me. Walk into my room and have any game I want on any console with a simple command.

[Scatpants]

also if you get the PS4 camera you can give voice commands to both systems.

[chito1016d]

It is sitting next to my TV at the moment waiting for launch day.

[purp13m0nk3y]

You don't need the camera for voice commands on the ps4. Just the headset included in the box when you buy it :-)

[rainslacker]

I'll buy both systems when they can talk to each other through Siri type apps. I'll just sit there watching the console wars between the consoles themselves instead of coming to the internet.

[BABYLEG]

Why would you want it on both when it comes standard on one.

[purp13m0nk3y]

Voice commands come standard on both systems launch day. The ps4 only requires the included headset. Camera not required!

[chito1016d]

I got a nephew and niece and I play games that are age aappropriate with them. Some would be exclusives so I would get both cameras

[christocolus]

nice and all but my hdmi in will be for my media devices only....both ps4 and xbx one go direct to my tv

[Godhimself_In_3d]

So the system really is future proof. When the power gap widens slap a ps4 in that baby. No more upscaling the ps4 will do the dirty work. F the cloud updating graphics ps4 through the hdmi in and boom (madden voice) 1080p gaming. And blue ray 3D movies. Only jk but what the defence force running after me lmao

[Soldierone]

There is no reason it won't work. Its basically just your typical audio visual box with new software in the middle. People have had multi in/out boxes for decades.

[Themba76]

i can see someone on youtube putting this up and saying "xbox play ps4" and it switches to killzone.

[LordDhampire]

Most people play on nice LED samsung tv's anyways...and samsung have terrible lag so people like that wouldn't probably notice it anyways

if you don't want bad input lag get a sony hd tv

[Bathyj]

This is just so they can play CoD in 1080p.

Ha, just kidding,I don't care about CoD or Xbones specs, it's just an funny (to me) observation.

Ps
Interesting that people make such a big deal about 60 fps but the lag playing a ps4 through a Xbone isI apparently undetectable.

[Gamer666]

I look at this as my backwards compatibility feature. I will set my new style 360 up to my X1, and then play 360 through X1...

Who needs BC when you have an extra HDMI input/pass through port?

[lashes2ashes]

What I want to know if this would mess up my 7.1 receiver. Having my ps4 go through my xbox into my receiver and then my tv sounds like a crap lot of things that could screw sound or vid.

[No FanS Land]

*playing on XB1*

Xbox Snap Playstation!

*PS4 output*

and done!

[H0RSE]

It's funny to see the Sony camp with the their jokes about the subject, while totally ignoring the point here - the versatility of the HDMI-in, and how useful it can/will turn out to be. When xbox fans touted this feature, Sony fans scoffed and dismissed it as insignificant, when in actuality, it will be a useful and welcomed feature.

Technically, you could probably plug all your devices into an a/v receiver (pc, ps4, wii u, cable box, etc.) and then plug the receiver into the X1's HDMI-in. That could come in handy, and would truly make the X1 the "all in one box."

But of course, it isn't "strictly" games related and involves MS instead of Sony, so it's probably just a tacky gimmick to nickel and dime users...

[skoorydook]

I agree I think its pretty cool

[yewles1]

So many 180's, I'm dizzy....

http://www.engadget.com/201...

http://multiplayerblog.mtv....

[badkolo]

this is great for people who have both system and dont want to switch between both , now its easy peezy all done through the xbox but even though the lag wont be noticeable, knowing there is one there is enough not to do this in the first place with the ps4

[solidboss07]

The Xbone seems like an awfully expensive multi-HDMI jack. I bet one could find something more suitable for a couple of Pounds/Dollars.

[mhunterjr]

that would be an accurate assessment if all it could do was provide multi-HDMI input. Considering its also a game console, a voice/gesture controlled universal remote, and a hub for streamed entertainment content, and allows access to all of these functions from a single interface, your analogy falls a little flat.

[solidboss07]

Why? PS4 is cheaper.

[mhunterjr]

Try to get a ps4, and a comparable universal remote for under $500. Then come talk to me.

[osamede1]

i will actually do this ;D. so i can play cod ghosts in 1080p on xbox one.

[Relientk77]

Lol, nice

[Whitefox789]

Just be prepared to pay for the extra electricity.

[Main_Street_Saint]

This is an unexpected feature for any console; at least what I remember. A pleasant surprise, to say the least. It's looking like the XB1 is stepping up it's game now.

[parkesy78]

Don't get it drive ps4 ??? It's only a pass through I really don't understand why anyone would use this I've had a ps3 and a 360 in the past never played them both at the same time ? As for getting game invites while watching telly most people will have it in there living room I know if I was watching a film with the family or something else and an invite popped up I wouldn't be able to just join it without everyone moaning seems quite gimmicky to me

[Hartsy]

Why can't Sony and Microsoft come together and make one absolutely amazing console ?

[NeloAnjelo]

XBONE... Play PS4.

[speedforce131]

this put me a little bit closer to buying an Xbox One LOL (the world asploded from me saying that since I'm a die hard Sony guy)

[tudors]

Hurray PS3 Cross Game Chat has arrived in the form of Xbox One lol.

[unjust75]

Dumb!

[BabyTownFrolics]

I'm getting both, so if it works well I will utilize this

[MadMen]

having an HDMI in is one of the things Xbox did right.

[SpinalRemains138]

Its actually a very cool thing.

I myself would have guess MS would have somehow installed something to read that a foreign gaming device was hooked through and have an error message.

Lets all sing Kumbaya.

[Red_Devilz]

The box you (don't really) need to play PS4.

OT - What will happen if someone connects, say 5 or 10 Xobx1s in series? Can it then reach 1080P?

[SpinalRemains138]

Only, I repeat only, if all of the Bones are connected to the Clowdz in series.

[mhunterjr]

My setup will be
TV<---XBOX ONE<---Receiver<----PS4 + Everything Else

Then its just a matter of programming the XBOX ONE to control the Receiver inputs. should work like a charm

Lag? i don't see why this would introduce anymore lag than using a longer HDMI cable. Its just passing through a signal. If you don't notice audio lag while using a receiver, why would you notice any lag with this setup?

[TheBurger29]

this is epic

[russo121]

Now I understand Microsoft using Watch Dogs footage from Sony - in resume - a big expensive hdmi switch to connect your ps4...

[bligmerk]

Numbskull stupid. Figures. MS was the one that was saying why the hell do you need HDMI on the PS3, then 180 later, put HDMI on the 360. Now, a HDMI pass-through is a big deal? I suppose MS will lie as usual and say their HDMI input has a biggenator, lol.

[Tzuno]

I am no fan of consoles anymore but after the launch of both consoles you can see people buying one console or another for some exclusive games that they can not simply pass regardless the hardware differences.

[assdan]

I've got to give to MS on this one. I'm proud that they aren't ass holes about this.

[brianunfried]

I will resist making a sodomy joke.

[DynDasE]

I will broadcast PS4 games using Xbox One streaming. So, it is going to be a video of streaming a streaming game. :D

[47]

I'll deff be using this feature come Feb when i get my PS4(or whenever it is inFamous is released)

[bligmerk]

Did anybody read this?
http://www.engadget.com/201...

MS even says "it won't be a great experience" and cites lag.

Do you seriously believe the XBone with a last generation GPU, 3 operating systems, resources devoted to the Kinect2 and TV functions, is somehow going to provide the equivalent output of a more powerful system? Yes, feed your PS4 signal through the XBone HDMI, for an inferior experience. What kind of idiot gamer does this?