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Hideki Kamiya to Those Asking About Bayonetta 2′s Wii U Exclusivity: “F*** Off”

Looking forward to Bayonetta 2? You may want to think twice before you ask Platinum Studios’, Hideki Kamiya, about its exlusivity to the Wii U.

Snookies123818d ago

Didn't he say the same thing to people asking about her in Smash Bros.? This guy seems like a bundle of joy lol.

darthv723818d ago

in relation to the title...it would have been funny if the pic was him flipping the bird instead of thumbs up.

TransientDreamer3818d ago

@darthv72

Trust me when I tell you I looked for one lol.

Lord_Sloth3818d ago

This seems to be a very common response from him...

SilentNegotiator3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

"Hey, we would like to play your game, too"
"F*ck off!!"

Real nice response.

guitarded773818d ago

Guy: "So is Bayonetta 2 still exclusive to Wii U?"

Kamiya: "F#@K OFF!!!"

Guy: "So you're saying it's possible?"

PopRocks3593818d ago

If some shmuck knocked on your door everyday asking if you take a crap on a golden toilet, I'd imagine you would get annoyed and tell him to "**** off" too.

SilentNegotiator3818d ago

"If some shmuck knocked on your door everyday asking if you take a crap on a golden toilet"

Perfect analogy.

/s

ShinMaster3818d ago

That made no sense, PopRocks

PopRocks3593818d ago

How about you guys use some critical thinking skills and understand that my analogy was to say people asking you the same thing over and over is irritating? In Kamiya's case, he's probably been getting it since Bayonetta 2's announcement. Simple.

SilentNegotiator3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

Several gamers asking if a game is coming to a system they have in the form of an easy to ignore tweet is not the same as one person knocking on your front door every day to ask you a question straight from a mad lib.

That is a stupid analogy. He had no cause to freak out the way he did.

PopRocks3593818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

You're a gamer on the internet, right? You keep yourself well informed, yes? What is stopping people from doing a simple google search on the issue and not provoking the guy? Problem solved without annoying Kamiya and without earning one of said tweets.

Kamiya's been at this longer than the issue at hand. The only thing stupid here is people taking offense to his otherwise regular behavior. You have a problem? Don't follow his twitter. If this was about a Playstation 4 being ported to Wii U, you would be applauding Kamiya's behavior, I'm sure. The analogy is fine; your stubbornness and apparently resumed rudeness is not.

Edit: And while we're at it, correct your terminology; Kamiya did not "freak out." This is one of his normal responses to tweets of this nature. Where exactly were any of you over the past year? These tweets are pretty normal. He's responding to random people on the internet and quite clearly does not care what anyone thinks of him, least of all yourself. So don't try to make this into some sort of Phil Fish meltdown. It's not nearly on the same spectrum.

Lou-Cipher3818d ago

When nobody goes out to by a Wii U to play Bayonetta 2. That is all your previous Bayonetta 1 fans saying F#*k YOU!!!

SilentNegotiator3817d ago (Edited 3817d ago )

"You're a gamer on the internet, right? You keep yourself well informed, yes? What is stopping people from doing a simple google search on the issue and not provoking the guy?"

People want to ask the man himself. Nothing horrible about that. In fact, now that he has blown his top and that has been reported across the net, less people will probably bother asking because the search results would show this very definitive, angry twitter post.

"You have a problem? Don't follow his twitter. If this was about a Playstation 4 being ported to Wii U, you would be applauding Kamiya's behavior, I'm sure"

Another completely moronic comparison. He told people interested in his game to "f*** off" and my reaction to that doesn't have anything to do with how I would react to it getting ported. Furthermore, I didn't care for Bayonetta 1, but a lot of people are passionate about the game and simply want to play it on their system of choice.

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-Foxtrot3818d ago

When the game does poorly in sales BECAUSE of it being an exclusive

Kamiya - "F*** off"

Fanboyssuck273818d ago

When the game does a lot better than all these Nintendo haters think, then u can **** off x2.

truechainz3818d ago

No need to highlight the because. I know it probably won't help sales, but the original didn't do that well on 2 consoles with large install bases.

XboxFun3818d ago

Nobody else wanted it so I agree with Hideki. And from what I remember Bayonetta 1 didn't do so hot in sales so what difference does being exclusive have now?

What is wrong with gamers nowadays?

They scream for exclusives but then cry when those exclusives don't appear on their system of choice. This is why every industry head should take the internet with a grain of salt because 95% of people are just here to cry and hate.

Concertoine3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

This is platinum games were talking about.
The company that has never once met sales expectations.
The company that has trouble selling a game unless metal gear is in the title.
But also the company that will stop at nothing to make a creative, complex game regardless of sales, even to their detriment.
Bayonetta 2 wouldnt sell no matter what system it was on.

-Foxtrot3818d ago

@Fanboyssuck27

It's a joke...chill your bean

deafdani3818d ago

The first Bayonetta tanked, and it was available on Xbox 360 and PS3.

Then nobody wanted to publish Bayonetta 2, until Nintendo stepped up to the plate.

Not saying you aren't right, Bayonetta 2 may end up selling poorly anyway. But if it wasn't a Nintendo exclusive, it wouldn't even exist to begin with.

SilentNegotiator3818d ago

"Nobody else wanted it so I agree with Hideki. And from what I remember Bayonetta 1 didn't do so hot in sales so what difference does being exclusive have now?"

I'll try to make this easy for you; a game that did poorly on two very well selling systems will not do better on one very poorly selling system. That's the obvious difference.

tehpees33818d ago

@ SilentNegotiator

We all know the game won't perform well in sales. That is why only Nintendo want it. The reason Kamiya is annoyed is because they have repeated the answer time and again and people ignore it.

It might sell better on PS3 and 360 but Sega think its a flop. Because of that they aren't doing it. They know it will sell more there but they don't see any gain in this franchise so they dropped it and never looked back.

As far as publishers are concerned there is no loss with this franchise because it doesn't meet the financial expectations. Publishers don't care where it sells most because it didn't sell enough in the first place.

Its sadder for Platinum because they make great games and they aren't meeting their partner's expectations so they can't get future games they want out.

SilentNegotiator3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

@tehpees3

I'm aware that they're doing it because Nintendo funded it after underwhelming sales, but SEGA really should have realized that 1) the sequel is bound to do better because the series now has a history with very positive feedback (it would help them exponentially more if they released it to the same group of people) and 2) The Nintendo deal won't benefit them for long if the sales are even WORSE than before.

The fact this game wouldn't exist if not for Nintendo is entirely thanks to a lack of logic from SEGA.

......so anyway, the only point I was making was a response to XboxFun to tell him the obvious, OBVIOUS difference.

tehpees33818d ago

I fully agree 2 million sales for Bayonetta was great. During the PS2 era that would have been immense. The thing is Sega would have been looking at a bigger picture. They gave Platinum four chances to go places and nothing stuck to the wall. The first was Madworld which opened to poor sales so they blamed Wii. But take a look at the sequel (Anarchy Reigns) and you'll see it sold just as badly on PS3 and 360 so this clearly wasn't a demographic thing.

Bayonetta met strong sales but Vanquish also flopped. Four flops in a row meant Sega saw Platinum's games appealing to a niche audience and they pulled the plug.

As far as Sega is concerned its too risky to be building on the one brand that met very strong sales when said game still didn't meet their expectations. They believe Platinum's games appeal to a niche market and are too costly to continue. It wasn't specifically Bayonetta's flop. Vanquish is another example of a game that definitely should have done better then it did.

R00bot3818d ago

It doesn't really matter for him how the game goes, Nintendo funded it anyway.

Nintentional2561d ago

n4g.com/news/1900941/vgchartz- bayonetta-2-sells-one-million-u nits

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dredgewalker3818d ago

I don't like his response but Bayonetta's exclusivity is not his fault. If Nintendo didn't fund the game then there wouldn't have been a sequel in the first place.

-Foxtrot3818d ago

The problem is some gamers and especially Kamiya are thinking Nintendo did it out of the goodness of their hearts...they didn't. They needed third party software, they saw this game needed picking up, they picked it up for that reason and to try and show people they are interested in third party software. Not because they actually wanted to support Platinum or Kamiya, if they did they would of given them a bigger budget to work with

At the end of the day it was just a business decision.

I'll bet my life on the fact Nintendo won't fund Bayonetta 3

I've said before after how good their relationship with Konami after Metal Gear Rising why didn't they ask them for help. Kamiya has talked about Sony and Microsoft but what about other publishers

Chrischi19883818d ago

You betting your life on a stupid matter like this? Dont take it personal, but do you even still have a life?

Concertoine3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

@foxtrot
Why else would nintendo buy a mediocre selling game? They needed 3rd party stuff, but they knew they needed unique 3rd party stuff, and bayonetta is a very niche game with a dedicated fanbase willing to follow the sequel on to wii u. You honestly thought they bought this game because it would be financially successful? Maybe profitable, hopefully so, but if they were after money they wouldve bought an exclusive assassin'd creed or another big name, not bayonetta of all games xD
And what do you mean a bigger budget?! This game looks amazing, 1090p native and 60 fps. Platinum has said working under nintendo is intimidating because they are such perfectionists.
Im betting bayonetta 3 wont come out because Platinum SAID they wouldnt make it.

triforce793818d ago

I know it will sell over a million easy mark my words those who dissagree are wrong the wiiu has 3 million sellers now with an install base of just 4/5 million so middle of next year I'm guessing with MK8,X,Project CARS,ect ect will help towards great sales...

NihonjinChick3818d ago

Foxrot, how do you know this budget wasn't big enough? Bayonetta isn't the type of game that needs millions upon millions to be thrown at it.

-Foxtrot3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

@Chrischi1988

lol...really? It's just a saying, you did do English at school right?

@Concertoine

"Why else would nintendo buy a mediocre selling game? They needed 3rd party stuff

You've just answered your own question

"with a dedicated fanbase willing to follow the sequel on to wii u."

I really doubt that many Bayonetta 2 fans will buy a Wii U JUST for that game. I love Bayonetta but I'm not just going to get a Wii U for it. I'd wait untill Smash Bros and Mario Kart come out or the next Zelda

"Platinum has said working under nintendo is intimidating because they are such perfectionists."

The thing about Nintendo is they are perfectionists but they wouldn't go the extra mile to make their games even better/longer. They get to the point where they've finished it and go "DONE".

"Im betting bayonetta 3 wont come out because Platinum SAID they wouldnt make it."

If it does well then they would do a sequel. Since they know it's most likely not going to sell as well, then they know Nintendo won't fund it. So that's why they probably said it because they know it won't be made but if Nintendo were so confident in them they would offer to fund it regardless of sales.

PopRocks3593818d ago

"At the end of the day it was just a business decision."

Well aren't you just the media genius of the day. Thanks for figuring it out for the rest of us. *slow clap*

No crap it was a business decision. The point is if you're going to ask anyone about it, you should probably ask Sega. Because thanks to Nintendo and Kamiya, for whatever the reason might be, that sequel is now happening and it's exclusive on Wii U. Period.

As for your statements about who is going to fund what, please tell me, do you have any insight on the stock exchange? I was thinking of making investments and I think your crystal ball may come in handy.

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Concertoine3818d ago

When you get 100's of people asking the same shit day after day, when he has a twitlog he constantly refers to i imagine it gets annoying,

stuna13818d ago

No he's just mad because he just realized that he has made a major Boo Boo, by making Bayonetta 2 exclusive. There is going to be a lot of Boo Boo'ing going on in the coming months!

brish3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

"F*CK OFF ALL EXCLUSIVE IDIOTS"
- Hideki Kamiya

Yeah!!! How dare people on other platforms show an interest in the game and not magically know that nintendo paid for the development and nintendo is forcing it to be an exclusive!

Hmm, come to think of it having a large number of people from other platforms wanting to play the game should be very flattering.

Good thing he didn't call them idiots because he would make himself look like an idiot

... oh wait.

live2play3818d ago

"and not magically know that Nintendo paid"
...its not "magic" its all over the web, it was all over the web before and he even said it himself REPEATEDLY on his account how Nintendo is publishing... So who's the real idiot?

"Nintendo is forcing it to be exclusive"
I'm not even going to try and make you understand this part

brish3818d ago

@live2play
"...its not "magic" its all over the web, it was all over the web before and he even said it himself REPEATEDLY on his account how Nintendo is publishing... So who's the real idiot?"

Just because it's on the net doesn't mean every person on the net has read it. Do you understand that posting something on the net doesn't mean every person in the world has read it?

There are multiple sites on logic and reason on the net but that doesn't mean that everyone one the net applies logic and reason to the posts they write.

Do you know what fallacies you're guilty of in your post?

Back-to-Back3818d ago

I am almost tempted to follow him on twitter just to witness these explosions first hand.

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Godmars2903818d ago

The man's fully justified, given that the sequel wouldn't exist without Nintendo's support and that point has been made *dozens* of times.

hankmoody3818d ago

This guy is one of the few devs who actually respond in kind to the fans on Twitter. And then what does he get for it? I saw a tweet a while back where some douche told him that he was glad they bombed Japan when they did for whatever reason. Forgot why, it may have been due to Bayo2 being a WiiU exclusive. And then people wonder why these guys get nasty after opening themselves up to the public.

ritsuka6663818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

This is the internet is full of idiots,nothing new here.

live2play3818d ago

N4G certainly supports that statement...

from the beach3818d ago

He singlehandedly justifies Twitter's existence

GTgamer3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

He's just begging for Bayonetta 2 to flop ahwell its your fans but i see they don't get that Nintendo is supporting Bayonetta 2 :/.

Concertoine3818d ago

Right, i wont be buying the sequel to one of my favorite games because the guy who makes it gets pissed at someone asking a year old question.
...naaah i'll be getting bayonetta 2.

GTgamer3818d ago

Hey you should know that a certain amount of fans don't give a F they will not buy it out of spite and you know that.

NihonjinChick3818d ago (Edited 3818d ago )

@Gtgamer, I'm sure the people that were going to buy this game are still going to buy it. Bayonetta 2 not being multi plat won't affect them.

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Hideki Kamiya On Why He Left PlatinumGames, His YouTube Channel, and His Next Game

In a wide-ranging interview with IGN, game developer legend Hideki Kamiya reveals why he left Bayonetta maker PlatinumGames and what's next.

darthv72122d ago

Long shot here but with him out of the picture... MS could get PG to finish Scalebound. As it is, the project was shelved and Ms still had all the work they had done up to that point. HK's mismanagement of multiple projects is what caused MS to pull the plug, but I feel they still wanted to get it done at some point.

gold_drake120d ago

if MS hasnt picked it up yet,it will never return. it was cancelled in 2017. 6 years ago.

MS owns the IP, not PlatinumGames.

Cacabunga120d ago

I have been waiting for a new Vanquish for a long time!! I barely imagine how the result could be on PS5

isarai122d ago

Sounds like Tencent influence was something he wasn't down with.

Levii_92121d ago

Sorry,you have been blocked by Hideki Kamiya. ❌

Zenzuu121d ago

“My work with Platinum Games was based on a relationship of trust with the company. I decided to leave because I felt that the direction the company was heading in was different from my beliefs as a developer. Without that element of trust, I couldn’t continue working there, and so I left, so that I could continue working in what I consider to be the right way.

“I don't think of games as products, but rather as works of art. I want to put my artistry into games and deliver games that could only be made by Hideki Kamiya, so that players can enjoy Hideki Kamiya games exactly as they are. I decided to leave the company and forge my own path, to continue making games that reflect the developers who made them.”

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Hideki Kamiya Would Like to Make New Viewtiful Joe and Okami Games, Comments on Bayonetta's Future

Legendary developer Hideki Kamiya said that he'd like to make new Viewtiful Joe and Okami games with Capcom, he commented on the future of Bayonetta and on the possibility of collaborating with other creators like Tomonobu Itagaki.

XiNatsuDragnel144d ago

I hope he makes new ip in the future

lucian229143d ago

please no more viewtiful joe; game was cool the first time but i really dislike the whole look and attitude of it.

either make a new okami or a new ip

PRIMORDUS143d ago

I want a new Viewtiful Joe as well, and also Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2 remade from the ground up for Switch. 😎

lucian229143d ago

pretty sure the visuals would have to be turned down; switch isnt strong enough to handle ps2 games

shadowknight203143d ago (Edited 143d ago )

Comedy at its finest. Upvote from me. Bought a switch twice, it's fun, but man, I always forget how Nintendo does things differently, I don't necessarily hate on it, but u gotta really stick with first party titles to enjoy there systems. And that wasn't always the case for them. Once upon a time.

FinalFantasyFanatic142d ago

@Shadowknight203,

The Switch's first party titles amaze me, you can get games that look and run that well on such old tech, but it's hopeless for AAA third parties, It makes games like BoTW/ToTK look like miracles.

shadowknight203142d ago

@fanatic
It goes to show, maybe I don't know anything, but I feel Nintendo might have there own engine for there studios? Something that works hand in hand with there hardware. I don't know I don't read up on the tech side of Nintendo developers

FinalFantasyFanatic142d ago

@ShadowKnight203,

I know the physics engine they built for Zelda is pretty nuts to the point that most developers don't understand how it was possible to run something so complex on the Switch. But I also feel like Nintendo optimises their games like crazy, if you look at any game development documentaries on Youtube, you'll see that they optimise heavily for the hardware they have available.

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fsfsxii143d ago

i hope he quits the bs of cramming minigames in his games that deter replay value and distract from the main course

shadowknight203143d ago

But everyone loves playing sub games inside of games, hell maybe he can incorporate mini games inside of mini games, he could create the next big gimmick like quick time events were

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Hideki Kamiya will be leaving PlatinumGames on October 12, 2023

Hideki Kamiya will be leaving PlatinumGames on October 12, 2023.

-Mika-203d ago

Phil better have that check ready. Hideki expertise and knowledge would be a great asset to the Xbox team and can possibly bring growth in the Asia region.

VersusDMC203d ago

Phil already canceled a Kamiya game(Scalebound) so we know he doesn't have the check ready. And that check couldn't keep Shinji Mikami there either...but maybe?

CrimsonWing69203d ago

I’m still bitter about that cancellation. Even if it was in dev hell he could’ve given it to an internal studio.

Obscure_Observer203d ago

@CrimsonWing69

"I’m still bitter about that cancellation. Even if it was in dev hell he could’ve given it to an internal studio."

Are you crazy???

That would be extremely disrespectful!

Michiel1989203d ago

@obscure as if one of ms's own studios would know how to get the game out the door in a great way. Remember what happened when they did that with Duke Nukem Forever?

20nmrtnz203d ago

Tencent and Netease around the corner: Bonjour!

AdonisIsBeast202d ago (Edited 202d ago )

Was the 69 billion dollar acquisition plus 8 billion for Zenimax not enough lol?

-Foxtrot203d ago

How sudden, I wonder what changed.

Maybe after the certain story choices and direction for Bayonetta 3 they can hopefully make it more like the first two games.

justsomeoffdude203d ago

i've always felt platinum games lack of growth/failures can be traced back to kamiya. He seems like a very troublesome person to work with

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