'PC GPUs Will Run Past' PS4 GPU, Devs 'Will Get More Out of It' With Time: Ragtag Studio

"Chris Cobb, co-founder of Rag Tag Studio gives his honest opinion about the PS4's GPU."

[sprinterboy]

Obvious article lol

[Fishy Fingers]

Haha pretty much. It's common sense, you don't need a degree in game development to know that.

[CapsLocke]

"Degree in game development"

Sigh*facepalm* Why I am not surprised.

[Stuntz]

Comparing either console gaming to PC gaming is just stupid so can we please stop? We console gamers understand we will never have those amazing graphics does it look like we give a rats behind? NO, because guess what we play consoles for the experience, so enough with the omg these graphics are nothing compared to PC we understand that. I have a question for you PC gamers though where are your exclusives? Yea you lose.

[Fishy Fingers]

Don't like the comparisons, stop clicking on them. It's really that easy. Obviously (although you do speak for EVERY console gamer) some people do care how it stacks up against PC and what's wrong with that? PC being the benchmark (at a premium) it's nice to know how your "bang for buck" console compares. Or whether that extra investment was justified.

It only seems an issue with people who expect their £400 console to trump a £1800 PC. Just take it for what it is.

[tordavis]

There are 10x more exclusives on PC than all current and next gen consoles combined. Please STFU with that.

[edgeofsins]

Where are your modern exclusives? I play PC. I have played tons of PC's greatest exclusives but most are old and have been played. Not much to look forward to game wise.

[Revolver_X_]

Tordavis you jump from Xbot to PC elitist when convenient.

No one on consoles care. PC will always have better graphics, while consoles will remain more mainstream. Every PC elitist can name cheap parts all day. The facts are the price of entry is too steep for mainstream markets. Consoles will always have the bigger communities. Even Battfield, once a Pro-PC franchise is seeing bigger communities on console.

[tordavis]

No one is being elitists...Xbot? I was responding to another post by @Stuntz that stated...

"I have a question for you PC gamers though where are your exclusives? Yea you lose."

So I can't respond and correct someone about PC gaming without being called an elitist or Xbot? I bet I own more Playstation games than you. Please, GTFO with that bullsh@t!

[wtopez]

@Stuntz

"I have a question for you PC gamers though where are your exclusives? Yea you lose."

Considering that every game I have bought on PC for the past decade can be played on the same system I'm using today(I can't play my PS2 games on my PS3 or my PS3 games on the PS4), I'd say that PC has more exclusives than any console has games combined.

[worldwidegaming]

The funny thing is most PC gamers OWN everything because they have the disposable income to do so.
After buying a titan do you think they would just cry and complain about how they can not play a exclusive?
even better one! Do you own a wii u? its a great next gen system!

[Onehandband1t]

PC has a tonne more exclusives than console lol. Ok they might not be to everyone's taste but damn, if you don't own a gaming PC, how can you comment

[Pancit_Canton]

More importantly. DAT GDDR5 :]
My inner nerd is salivating with excitement.

[Cuzzo63]

Really tho. Wats the point of these articles. Well duh the pc will outshine consoles. They have new upgrades every 3 months... consoles are now being built for the mass consumer that do not wanna spend money to keep up with new tech every few months. Are the pc crowd that insecure. These things are created to cater to their respected crowd. Its like every time a dev says this, the pc gamers come in like " consolz are teh crap... pc over the world"...
Its cool to worship the new lamborghini you bought. Very powerful. Very fast. Looks amazing. Compared to my mustang... when that oil change comes around or the water pump fails or that 900 mile trip. Things look a whole lot better driving tha ol stang.

[DoctorJones]

Another pointless car analogy, that's just what we need. Thanks.

[Cuzzo63]

Lol. What about this pointless article. I mean its like saying fire burns... Well Duh! Lol

But its okay. I had a opinion and I get disagrees and hostility because of.... oh. Yea. PPR. PC POWER RANGERS.

Your point and this article pwill not change anything. Pc gamers will not gain more gamers for Word of Warcraft. The console gamers will continue buying consoles. You need more bubbles too. ;x

[Lykon]

It's just a very vocal but very small minority of PC gamers that go on and on and on about the specs of their graphics cards. hung like mosquitoes probably

[CapsLocke]

couple comments above

"More importantly. DAT GDDR5 :]
My inner nerd is salivating with excitement. "

And thats not the first, and far not the last time.

[Lykon]

yeah true. I've been guilty of fan boy troll comments too ... its a bit of fun really. I'm sure we'd all get on fine in person. I'm just feeling peace and love for all gamers today.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

Yes, they will obviously. But who cares? I will have fun playing all games in the next years without spending tons of money on hardware XD

[Inception]

Agreed. All of my fav series are on console/handheld. And i don't want to upgrade my hardware every f*kin year with a price that can buy two or three PS3. So that's the only important matter to me.

[Nerdmaster]

People buy PCs to last for years. I bought my PC more than four years ago and never upgraded it. It's a silly excuse for console gamers to justify not playing on PC.

But that's the beauty of PC. If I wanted to upgrade it, I could. PS3 has terrible framerates and resolution, and even though I wanted the option to upgrade it to get better graphics, that option doesn't exist.

[DoctorJones]

'And i don't want to upgrade my hardware every f*kin year with a price that can buy two or three PS3.'

I swear some of you people live on another planet, the crap you come out with. WE DON'T HAVE TO UPGRADE EVERY YEAR. Do you understand?

You can enjoy your games, and I'll enjoy all the games you have available and all the other games I have available on pc. Having a greater selection of games is always a good thing in my eyes, as a gamer. I wouldn't like to restrict myself, which is why I have consoles as well as a gaming pc.

Otherwise I'd miss out on this, the game I'm most looking forward to this year -

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

If I only gamed on console I wouldn't have a single Space sim to choose from on current gen or next gen so far.

There's more to pc gaming than upgrading, there are games that simply aren't available on console. Many games, and that's what's important to me.

[Inception]

@Nerdmaster

"People buy PCs to last for years. I bought my PC more than four years ago and never upgraded it. It's a silly excuse for console gamers to justify not playing on PC."

Don't get me wrong bub. I already tried my way as a PC gamer years ago because my friends reccomend it to me. But everytime i upgraded my PC, it doesn't last long. Hell, the last gaming rig that i build (reminds you, i spent $350 to build it) only last a half year (the GPU got blow up and the slot for RAM doesn't work anymore).

And to make it worse, my local store only gave one year guaranty for every single hardware that i bought from them. That's why i said 'FUCK THIS! I'm stick with my console & handheld!'

"But that's the beauty of PC. If I wanted to upgrade it, I could. PS3 has terrible framerates and resolution, and even though I wanted the option to upgrade it to get better graphics, that option doesn't exist."

That's why i don't care about better graphics and all those mumbo jumbo such as aliasing this, shader that, frame rate this, etc on PC. Because with every money i spent to upgrade on PC, i can use it to buy the games i want for my console / handheld. That's the beauty of console gaming.

@DoctorJones

"I swear some of you people live on another planet, the crap you come out with. WE DON'T HAVE TO UPGRADE EVERY YEAR. Do you understand?"

I understand, but if i don't upgrade every year than my gaming rig can't catch up with driver, shader, and all those mumbo jumbo BS that Nvidia / AMD promoted every year just to play the newest games!

With consoles, i don't have to scratch my head AND wallet if my gaming rig doesn't compatible with shader X, aliasing this, etc when i want to play a game.

"You can enjoy your games, and I'll enjoy all the games you have available and all the other games I have available on pc. Having a greater selection of games is always a good thing in my eyes, as a gamer."

Well go ahead. You free to do what you want that fit with your ideal AND money. But not every person have the time AND money like you. I'm satisfied gaming on console / handheld without worrying if my hardware can't handle the latest Uncharted, FF, Disgaea, Tales, etc ;)

[Nerdmaster]

"if i don't upgrade every year than my gaming rig can't catch up with driver, shader, and all those mumbo jumbo BS that Nvidia / AMD promoted every year"
So you don't buy smartphones because every 6 months they release another one and they try to convince you that you can't live without the newest one? Wow, your phone must be very, very old.

The same way you don't buy a new smartphone everytime they release a new one (or do you?) because your old one is more than enough for you, you don't buy a new PC if your current one is enough for you. As I said, I still have the same PC from 4 years ago.

[MadMen]

Why is this news, this is known with any console. The difference is with a console they dev on the same denominator so we all share an equal experience and it doesn't cost you time and money in upgrades until a new gen is out.

Common sense folks.

[Asuka]

next year Nvidia is set to release their Maxwell series, which is going to introduce GDDR6 and a whopping 14Teraflops. So yeah, of course pc gpus are going to out gun ps4/xbone gpus. But honestly if you are console gamer you shouldnt be bothered by this anyway. Just enjoy your console. i know i will with that KZ:shadowfall/PS4 ;)

[worldwidegaming]

or they could stop being so damn cheap, save a few dollars a week and make the jump to PC gaming!
The best of both worlds is never a bad thing.

[wishingW3L]

to play what? To waste all that GPU raw power on games I don't like, like: RTS or F2P MMOs? Have you seen the charts of the most played PC games? It's stuff like League of Legends that look like a PS2 HD remaster.

The truth is that PC has very few games (if any) like Uncharted, God of War or Ratchet & Clank. So to me PC is pointless, except for the few multiplats it gets which BTW, PC still doesn't even has GTA V.

[Oschino1907]

Sorry my few dollars a week are going towards one of these http://m.specialized.com/us... and a base model with the accessories I want will be around $4000-$4500.

Some people have hobbies outside of gaming and would find their time and money better used dealing with a simple no hassle console. Console in numerous ways for me is the far better choice.

I could sell people on either pc or console but I can recognize that neither is best for everyone and both have their own niche they fill that the other can't.

Would rather buy a 2nd Kayak and some new camping/hiking gear for $1500-$2000 then a beast pc.

[Nerdmaster]

@wishingW3L
You mean games like Tomb Raider, Devil May Cry and any generic 3D platform games? Yeah, there are many like those on PC. And you know those HD remakes console gamers get so excited about? On PC, if you want to play an older game, you only have to change a setting to make it full HD and you're good to go. The game was already cheaper than the console version when it was new, and you don't have to buy it again to play in high resolution. And it may even have mods to make it even better.

[greedybear88]

Well said. I agree. I am a console gamer and I understand that high end PCs will always outperform XBOX One or PS4 for graphics, frame rate, resolution and just general raw power but I'm okay with that. I can't afford a bleeding edge gaming PC and I'm happy with a £350 console with inferior specs. I like the console experience. That PCs get better over time is great for gamers and so is release of new consoles so in everyones best interests that hardware moves forward :)

[4lc4pon3]

My 4670k and my x2 7970s destroy these silly specced consoles. Will I get a ps4 absolutely but can it compete with pc never

[plmkoh]

Stop with these 'PC' articles that refers to the audience as a mass with Aryan specifications to boot. It's embarrassing to read each time it implies any 'PC' can achieve satisfactory gaming levels.

Yeah I have a 'PC', and I do my casual rounds of Mechwarrior online on low settings bumbling at 30 frames. But I also make good use of productivity on it, rendering my videos and camera RAW photos, never needed nor ever looked back since selling my GTX670.

[cunnilumpkin]

a 3 year old mid spec gpu like a gtx 560 ti CRAPS all over the ps4

modern gpus utterly decimate the ps4/xbox1

[Jovanian]

'pc gpus will run past ps4'

More like HAVE ran past ps4, and lapped it twice

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Made me laugh

[creepjack]

I think it's hilarious that these consoles kids think pc gaming is so much more expensive. The few hundred dollars more I'll spend building it ( and yeah, only a few, I dont need $800 to build something to blow the PS4 out of the water), Ill save in not having to pay for online services and Steam sales in the first year alone. More expensive my ass.

And the argument of exclusives just shows how ignorant you console kids really are. PC exclusives FAR outnumber console exclusives. You guys love to pick the fight but cant take it when you lose.

[Jovanian]

Not to mention PCs have far greater functional use per dollar than a console. Its impractical to browse the internet on a console for more than a google search, and you can't launch or open programs such as photoshop or Microsoft word like on a regular PC. So at like a 600-800 dollar price, you got something that blows away PS4 and XB1 in terms of graphical power as well as blowing them away in functional use for things other than gaming.

[shawnmelo]

cant forget about mods.

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Can't beat facts

[windblowsagain]

Cunnilumpkin, stop talking crap.

PS4 beats the gtx 560 ti by about 15-20fps.

[theEx1Le]

Just no. Would really like to see some back to this claim.

[windblowsagain]

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Rad...

http://www.anandtech.com/be...

[Nerdmaster]

That's why I buy a PC first for power and graphics, and then a Nintendo console, because Nintendo has exclusives that truly feel like exclusives, that no other platform has a game like them (e.g. Rhythm Heaven, Wario Ware).

After some months or years I check the exclusives of other consoles to see if there's anything great. Heavy Rain was the reason I bought a PS3, for example. But many other exclusives so loved by console gamers are too similar to other games. Uncharted feels like Tomb Raider, Forza and Gran Turismo feel like any racing simulator, Halo like any FPS, God of War like any hack'n slash...

[Funnymonkey013]

I'll tell u PC gamers r a lot worse with their fanboys then consoles I mean really we get it PC has better graphics who cares we r just happy that we have a next gen console that is far cheaper and has games that aren't on PC manly PS games as pretty much all xbox games r on PC. So just go and enjoy ur PC and stop saying PC has better graphics then consoles as everybody knows it all ready.

[ATi_Elite]

We also have BETTER GAMES, BETTER Dedicated Servers, Free online Play, Lower priced Games, more F2P Games, way more survival Horror games, better Zombie Games, More RTS, Mobas, MMO's, Tower Defence, Simulators, Indie titles, Mods, FPS-RPg's hybrids, FPS-RTS hybrids, Puzzle-Physics based games and more games that have GLOBAL RANKINGS than consoles do.

PC Gaming is more than just Better graphics and if YOU think PC Gaming is ONLY about graphics then YOU my friend are uninformed about the wonderful world of PC Gaming. I'm not here to CONVERT anyone to PC Gaming but I get sick of consolers who know ZERO about PC gaming trying to make PC Gaming be ONLY about $990000 PC's and Graphics because PC gaming is more than that.

Yes Sony has some wonderful Exclusives and even MS has some great Exclusives but the PC has a MEGA-TON of Exclusives.

Fanboys love to trot out The Last of Us and yes a fantastic game enjoyed by like 3 million SOny gamers meanwhile 15 Million Gamers rather play DotA2 on the PC.

we can go tit for tat all day long but in the end My Whole Point is to make Gamers realize that PC gaming and consoles are TWO entirely different worlds only brought together by Multiplats which are the weakest games to use to compare one platform to another.

My thing with Next Gen consoles is now that they have more power and Ram I wanna see a HUGE innovation in gameplay and SMARTER A.I.. Pumping out the same linear games with better graphics and average A.I. is not enough because if that's the case then you can say PS4/XB1 is only better than X360/PS3 because of GRAPHICS.

At least the WiiU added a innovative controller to distinguish itself from the Wii.

Take Battlefield 4 for example, Better graphics and higher frames/resolution on PC than consoles BUT the PC ALSO has DEDICATED Servers and Peripheral View for those with 3 monitor set-ups.

That's a HUGE advantage over Peer to Peer Gaming and NO peripheral view. I rather have a game hosted on a Dedicated server Any day of the week vs. having someone with a Poor I.P. service hurting gameplay. Peripheral view adds a whole new level to FPS and Racer gameplay.

Battlefield 4 PC allows for Flight sticks and Driving wheels during play I don't know if BF4 console will support this. Helicopter/Jet piloting in BF4 with a flight stick is SUPREME!

So look beyond graphics and realize that the PC has many other advantages but the Media tends to drill consolers with ONLY the Graphics advantage as to keep YOU guys misinformed about PC Gaming thus limiting your knowledge of what else is out there.

Sure PC Gaming has a higher start up cost but it's a PC and PC's DO MORE than play Games also great gaming PC's can be built cheaper than the $990000 price tag always tossed around. I myself build $600 Budget PC's all the time that can be easily upgraded to Enthusiast Level Beast down the road.

So instead of repeating recycled Garbage and Lies, ask a REAL PC Gamer for truths and facts.

Enjoy your games no matter the platform.

[Funnymonkey013]

Dude who cares! All I said was PC gamers just leave the consoles alone and just play ur damn high end pcs and that's that. Really u wasted ur time writing all those words 4 nothing when all I said was PC gamers just stop trying to bash consoles when everybody knows PC r better at graphics.

[feraldrgn]

I find the comparison amusing.

With consoles you get non upgradeable parts in a closed system, so you pay for that & that alone, it gets better through software upgdates.

With PC's you set up a powerful rig (usually with future proofing in mind), but many enthusiasts regularly upgrade their GPU.

Now let's say that the consoles get up to par with a base PC, PC enthusiasts will then upgrade their GPU which means they're spending extra money ontop of their base PC to outpower consoles, which in my mind throws the comparison out the window.

We could also get into all of the security risks that come with PCs, as well as the myriad of errors one can run into.
Not that I'm against PC gaming, it's fantastic for ultra IQ & performance.

[ATi_Elite]

Security Risk? You say these things Like X360/Ps3 NEVER had their online services and Gamer accounts HACKED. Do i even get into GTAV pirated on consoles BEFORE launch day?

So basically you are telling a Half truth to make consoles look better when in FACT MS/Sony have the same Security Issues.

Software can only update and increase performance so much and console software Performance patches will NEVER catch the level my PC's perform at or any other PC gamers for that matter.

I ONLY update hardware when New technology requires New hardware thus allowing ME to always play Bleeding edge Technology today not Next console Gen like 4K Gaming which I will be doing Jan 2014.

XB1/Ps4 NEVER will do 4K gaming.

Software can NOT turn a 4 Tflop GPU into a 14 Tflop GPU which is why I will upgrade to Maxwell or HD9000.

My GPU's DO MORE than play Games so the extra Compute power will be nice for Video Encoding and Other GPGPU programs.

Extra Money to upgrade OK!

I figure I save at least $50 getting a free game or games with my new GPU, plus I save $30 on every new game purchased due to Steam/origin sales and lower priced PC games plus NO online MP fee.

I also SELL my old GPU's to help pay for the New ones so in the end I'm only pulling about $200 out of my pocket towards a $600 GPU. Even then I can use my PC to make $200 and that new GPU is basically FREE.

So if you're gonna put up some points about PC Gaming then at LEAST get all your FACTS straight and correct.

I got a GTX460 SLI setup in MY HTPC and it's rated at 2.09 Tflops and that card is 3 Generations and 3 years Old but still has more performance than New consoles rated at 1.8 Tflops and 1.2 Tflops!

So do I really need to upgrade it? NOPE because it will play Multiplats better than console for the Entire NExt Gen and it's already 3 years OLD.

see how that works.

[feraldrgn]

Account hackings are no where close to the type of security issues of PC's.

How much did it cost you to build your PC, in comparison to $399 & how much extra have you spent since?

True PS4/XB1 will never do 4K gaming.

I know PC's can do more than play games, but aren't we talking about for gaming purposes here?

Though ultimately you misunderstood my post, I didn't say consoles out power PC's or are better, I said the comparison is pointless as soon as you put different hardware in that PC.

[AceBlazer13]

did the pc elitists really need confirmation ? talk about attention whores. sink this in to you guys' heads, we don't care.we game on consoles for our own reasons whether financial, preference or whatever else.

[Jamaicangmr]

Oh so it's stating the obvious day again i see.

[johny5]

For you people that keep saying PC is way more expensive I'll show it's not true!

AMD 7870 ($175): http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

PC Case ($45): http://www.amazon.com/Coole...

CPU ($115): http://www.amazon.com/AMD-F...

Motherboard ($41): http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

Windows 8 ($74): http://www.lookoutdeals.com...

Harddrive 500gb ($36): http://www.amazon.com/Seaga...

RAM ($34): http://www.amazon.com/PNY-O...

PSU ($40): http://www.amazon.com/Coole...

Total comes out to $580 and with the AMD 7870 you get 2 free games! The CPU Case will snuggle under any cabinet like any console. This might be $80 dollars more then the XBOX 0ne but this remember you have to buy the games and pay for online and it comes out about the same or more especially with bundles!

Here is almost the same setup and this guy gets between 40-60 fps ultra at 1080p!

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Soc5]

anybody here have dejavu? kind of like this has all been said before? Weird

[Underworld]

PC fanboys have to be some of the most irritating people on the planet. Yeah, all fanboys are annoying, but the way so many PC gamers look down their noses at console gamers really gets on my nerves. Everyone knows consoles will always be less powerful than top PCs. How many times do we need to go through this? And obviously console gamers, like me, don't care. I've always been a console gamer, I enjoy it better, I enjoy the exclusives, I enjoy not having to worry about whether I can run a game, and I enjoy not having to worry about the ins and outs of building and running a gaming PC. I'm not into all that, I just want to play my games.
And PC gamers always love to talk about how much better high-end PCs are compared to consoles. But honestly, how many average PC gamers have a top PC?

Just play where you want and stop with the elitist crap.

[ATi_Elite]

My Next Laptop will be More powerful than a PS4/XB1!

Core i7 Haswell or Ivy Bridge
Nvidia 660m SLI or 740 SLI

may change the configuration but so far that's a good Gaming Laptop that will do BF4 on Ultra!

and it's under $900

[Booyah]

its still twice the price dude -.-

[TruthInsider]

Meanwhile in other news Bears do shit in the woods!

[Zool 08]

And the Aston Martin will run past a Golf GTI, so whats the point?

[Mrveryodd]

lots of people are talking mine is bigger than yours , I am sure if you think about it some of the best experiences in gaming didn't really have much to do with how pretty it was. Some of the best times I have ever had playing games was on Amiga 500

[insomniacgamer]

I am a gamer, I can care less about console wars. That said, the PC is in an entirely different realm than consoles. Cost more? Hell yes they do, a lot more. Do they beat the living daylights out of anything you can do on a console? You're an idiot and moron if you think otherwise. Better graphics, better titles, better everything from a pure gaming perspective.

Consoles are convenient and easy to use. PCs while more expensive and complex, are powerful and push titles way past anything a console can do. Nice example is Skyrim with it's modding community, or the upcoming X Rebirth, or Star Citizen, and on and on the list goes.

Edit: I am picking up the XBOX One for one reason alone and it has nothing to do with which one I think is better...Titanfall. Everyone touching that title from professionals to average gamers say it is one of those titles to buy a console for. That it reminds them of the MW excitement before IW drilled it into the ground and that is enough for me.

[kevnb]

cost varies big time on pc, but the extra ongoing costs of console gaming have to be considered as well.

[m2stech]

Thank you captain obvious, surely no one was expecting any GPU could be better than a custom 77xx GPU

[N8]

I want to try PC gaming so bad I'm just so used to consoles. PC gaming always sounds like such a hassle.I will try next year tho I'm due for a new PC

[SynestheticRoar]

I have a pimp out rig, but check this out. I'm still getting a PS4. Exclusives baby. Tell your mommy & your pappy. Baller's ball, nuts swinging.

[pedja_srb]

Deividas
Lol...You prefer PC over consoles but you had 4 Xbox and 3 Ps3 consol which was running all day long...facepalm... what a bunch of crap...and what a lier you are m8...I bet you not have any console and some shity PC 100% loser...

[terrordactyl]

PS4 is the best price/performance piece of hardware you can get.

You CANNOT get a better performing games pc for $399. No point the pc elitists lying about it.

[InTheZoneAC]

I grew up with the nes when I was about 5, and never once have cared about playing pc games.

Where did all these graphic elitists come from?

When did the selection of games quit being the biggest factor in decided what system to play?

That is the reason why I'm with playstation these days. If you like more of the PC games, that's fine, but these articles with graphics comparisons and stating the obvious of future technology saying it'll be better is as annoying and old as reading another "gay" story on yahoo news.