Daily Joystick Podcast Episode 138 – Xbox One & PS4 on par with each other, says Capcom

Paul from DJ Podcasts writes "This week on the Daily Joystick Podcast we talk about the Xbox One pre-orders now being on par with the PlayStation 4, plus how Sony looked to Microsoft for inspiration with their Dualshock 4 controller. Also, we discuss how Capcom feels the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are also identical in terms of performance, despite what other smaller developers think. Also, we investigate why Infinity Ward thinks its Call of Duty gamers aren’t real gamers at all, and are certainly not hardcore gamers either."

[JohnnyBadfinger]

Now they're on par in terms of pre-orders?

Well that escalated quickly...

[thereapersson]

I'll just be glad when the dang things finally release so we can see what will really happen. No more speculation; time for action and physical evidence. Embargos will be lifted and the reviews will come in.

Unrelated somewhat but no less important, I am also glad Sony delayed Drive Club so Evolution could make what will (arguably) be the best looking dynamic racer on consoles. Anyone can search for the #PS4SHARE #DRIVECLUB moments and see the improvements Evolution has already made.

https://googledrive.com/hos...

The reflection of the dash on the windshield. Damn...

[EasilyTheBest]

I ain't going to listen to what Capcom says, I'm going to go by what all the 12 and 13 year olds are saying on N4G.
Please don't bother with a cleverly worded come back. Thank you.

[JohnnyBadfinger]

You misunderstand me... I'm pro Xbox, just can't see myself to preorder it or the ps4. Just you have one article saying its 2:1 ratio in ps4 favour one day and 24hrs later they are equal?
The preorder numbers are all obviously bogus numbers and statistics journos are pulling off N4G and using the agree and disagree buttons as their polls

[AirHype]

I'm glad the X1 is getting a bit cleaned off since they doused themselves in shit at E3. Competition is always good. Both companies thrive.

[stavrami]

just out of curiosity what have capcom developed for the ps4 ???

[BBBirdistheWord]

Deep Down ???

[stavrami]

that will be the one i knew they had dev'd something just could not remember .although i hardly feel it's a fair opinion coming to a conclusion after building a f2p game .

[Foxgod]

What does the fact that its f2p have anything to do with it opposed to non f2p?
they are both full fledged games that require full development time, and thus force you to go trough a system.

[stavrami]

@foxgod f2p games are not fully developed at all look at the state of Spartacus if they made that a £45/$60 game and it turned out like that heads would roll . when this game comes out we will see how fully developed it is :-))

@dansdooz depends what site your on there's just as much uproar that people are not interested in f2p .me and my mates have zero interest and this was my most anticipated game till i found out about it being f2p

[BBBirdistheWord]

@ stav

Did you know that the mighty KZsf has a p2p element as part of its multiplayer?

Yep.

KZsf multiplayer sessions are hosted on one of the participating ps4s, then passed through servers that distribute the signal to all players.

[dansdooz]

Deep down! Exclusive ps4 title that everyone's going mad about that cares about ps4, stating best graphics they've ever seen, so no biggie really :-)

[BBBirdistheWord]

" Capcom feels the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are also identical in terms of performance, despite what other smaller developers think."

Don't think I need to add anything to that.
Pretty clear.

[Flutterby]

Yeh I'm pretty sure that's why COD is 720 on the xbone and 1080 on the ps4 because they are so identical , I guess it also explains why pretty much every game on the ps4 is 1080 yet the xbone exclusives are besides forza and that's not even for certain..... I guess that's what capcom means by the same lol , capcom can't even get DR3 running at 1080 with those last gen graphics, and I am pretty sure they would not be bad mouthing either company considering they have games coming to both consoles soon. But you go ahead and believe what ever it is you want to believe alas it won't change reality tho.

[BBBirdistheWord]

i think cod is 1080p on both platforms.

btw, bf3 ps4 has been reported running at 900p.

please don't blame me for pointing this out to you. Just trying to help really.

[Foxgod]

those are stinking rumors, not facts, rumors are meant to be taken that way, especially after all the lies that where spread against the x1;

also, small developers are usually fanboys with a hobby.

[Death]

If the eSram has a learning curve like many suggest, is the launch line up really the best the system will be? It seems to me that the more complex PS3 got better with age.

[amiga-man]

Foxgod you mean those lies about DRM always online and always on kinect, they all turned out to be true until M$ did their 180's,

Microsoft are the last company I would trust, they may not out and out lie but anything they say really has to be taken with a huge pinch of salt

[Death]

By always online, you mean it had to be online once every 24 hours to send/receive an incrediby small packet of information that could be transferred through your cellphone? I only ask because there is a pretty big difference between being online 24/7 and being online for a couple seconds a day.

Kinect can be on 24/7 to revieve voice commands. It would be hard to say "Xbox on" and have the system boot up if Kinect was turned off. Microsoft did indeed give users the option to turn it off once they seen how many people could easily be manipulated into thinking it was always on and watching you.

Microsoft changed their proposed policies so people that complained would be happy. Not a good idea if you ask me since these same people that complained about the policies now complain that they changed those same policies they complained about. "How can I trust a company that changed the things I didn't like about the system?". Classic stupidity on both parts.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein

[amiga-man]

Death you can dress up M$ policies all you like an internet connection was required for the machine to operate and the policies they changed should never have been there in the first place

to try and defend them by saying they changed them is not good enough the companies greed got the better of them and it came back to bite them in the ass which is nothing less than they deserved.

[Death]

Greed?

They were allowing Xbox One owners to rip their retail disc based games to the HDD and access them without disc verification. The 24 hour check in was to verify your library against trades and also against the "loaned" digital copies you could let your friends access remotely. Can you please explain to me how this is greedy?

I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm not a teenager, but to me greedy is abusing a digital copy by downloading it on my friends machine and giving them my user name and password to bypass DRM restictions. Microsofts policy kept everyone honest. I guess that is where the issue really is. People felt they should be able to transfer the digital copy they ripped to as many people as they could and keep a copy on their machine after they resold the disc.

[amiga-man]

Theres no point arguing with you if you somehow think M$ were pushing forward their plans for anything else other than control and greed you really are a little naive, i'm sad to hear your not a teenager as it would of at least been some sort of excuse,

luckily the majority of gamers didn't fall for or accept M$ frankly ridiculous plans .

[BBBirdistheWord]

@ amiga-man

Sorry dude.
did i miss something?

You wrote M$, but you didn't make mention at all of $ony?
have you forgotten the $ony history?

Come on.
That's inexcusable.
It's fine to call out M$, but don't pretend that's the whole story?

[amiga-man]

Not at all BBBirdistheword, I accept every company is out to make money it is just how they go about making it, correct me if i'm wrong but if it were not for Sony we would have been left with a gaming future controlled by M$ which gamers didn't ask for or want.

All companies have to make money but M$ contolling reputation was built a long time before they got into the console business, for me gamers would be better off without their greed driven influence.

I doubt very much any of their top executives have ever played a game.

[bassambient]

you think DICE will have global comp on NOV 1 USA VS EUROPE on XBOX ONE and is gone use the worst version of battlefield 4 i don't think sooo

[Kakashi Hatake]

Just admit PS4 is a more powerful machine and move on. This political correctness is annoying. While you're at it,why not make everyone happy and say PS4,X1,and Wii U are on par with each other.

[lifeisgamesok]

Stupidity at it's finest

[Supermax]

You won't know the difference sitting 6 to 8 feet away from the consoles stop makeing a big deal about it.

[lifeisgamesok]

More *proven* developers say performance wise they are identical

No huge power difference

Maybe not even resolution differences after devs get familiar with ESram

It'll come down to exclusives

Bring on the games!

[Games_R_Us]

SOme great responses there everyone, and some crazy tangents too lol. But in all seriousness each developer thats said one thing or another, each have their systems they are aligned too, hence why there is so many stories floating around with different opinions. The one thing we all should do is pick our systems for the games and franchises we love, pure and simply. Both offer great value and features, so lets put aside the whole who said what runs better on what crap and just enjoy our individual purchases. Thats my 2 cents.