Thursday Throwdown: Does COD: Ghosts 720p vs 1080p Matter?

"Some sites have been reporting on the NeoGAF rumor that Call of Duty: Ghosts will be running at 720p on the Xbox One compared to 1080p on PlayStation 4. However, the impact of this news is probably a lot less severe than most are making it out to be. We're sure a lot of PlayStation 3 owners are smiling because of the inferior ports they went through during the opening years of Sony's last console, so it's only fitting Microsoft's camp receives a little prodding of the stick this time around. Despite this potentially significant difference in resolution, do you think it really matters in the end or do you think it's just being blown way out of proportion?"

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Maybe wait until IW actually confirms something? I expect a rather large backlash against MS and IW if it turns out true. Why even have this discussion when we are dealing with unconfirmed rumor at this point for XB1.

[ArchangelMike]

It is being blown out of proportion and won't really affect sales that much, but yet it still matters. Let me explain; 'Next-Gen', primarily means next-gen as far as graphics are concerned. The standard 720p graphical output was last gen resolution. 1080p should be the 'Next-Gen' standard. That's what it means to be next-gen graphically.

I know that in the end it will not add or take away from the gameplay, and that the game will still be fun to play. So does it really matter? Yes, in a way it still does, because I'd rather play the game on a console that delivers 'Next-Gen' graphics As Well As the fun gameplay!

[s8anicslayer]

To answer the authors question, when you go out to buy an HD TV, do you go 720p or 1080p? I'm sure the latter and yes it does matter cause it looks more detailed and as long as nothing else in the game is compromised to compensate then I'm all for it.

[Eonjay]

It will look better on a 1080P TV no doubt. I would rather play on 1080P than 720P. Everyone would. It is easier on your eyes and looks great on that TV you paid for. If you don't have a 1080P TV then who cares. But honestly, no one is gonna chose 720P over 11080P if their TV supports it.

[aceitman]

well said .

[Bigpappy]

1080p resolution does NOT mean the Graphic will be better. What is means, is that if you have a 1080p or better screen, the image should be sharper.

Some people would choose the lower resolution if they don't have a 1080p screen, or if the game plays smoother and has better graphic effects. Often you can add more details to the graphics and get more consistent performance if you reduce the resolution. It is dependent on the engine, the GPU and the RAM. Any game can be made to run at 1080p on either X1 or PS4, but will there be effect or performance cutting is where you should focus, no the resolution itself.

[shoddy]

If resolution doesn't matter than stick with tube TV

[n4rc]

But cod was never 720p... It ran at like 640 since mw2

The price you pay for 60fps

[Angels3785]

A lot of people are arguing like this rumor is "game set match" (confirmed) not to say it will or it wont happen Im just saying there are xbox fans pulling eurogamer articles from 5 months ago to playstation fans acting like its already a fact. For now guys speak carefully with words like "IF this is true" because either side could end up looking very foolish.

Sure it may look like by some accounts that it is true, but the image could end up being broken by a simple "they're the same" in the coming days. You never know. Wait for some security.

[Enemy]

It's not about sales, it's the principle. They couldn't run the game at 1080p + 60fps on Xbone.

720p for a game as ugly as COD: Ghosts is pathetic. TitanFall will be the same.

[joab777]

Its gonna hurt a lot if the rumors about CoD and Titanfall are true. These are Microsofts bread earners and 720p would scream to everyone that there are problems with the xbox one that these two games could no t b made to run at 1080. The news may take awhile to become widespread but if initially there r big graphical differences on a game of this magnitude, expect many to make a shift. I am actually having a hard time believing it.

[CrossingEden]

1080p graphics don't mean anything. 1080p resolution does not equal better graphics. And people like you need to stop pretending that it does. -_-

[Killjoy3000]

Mike, here's the question I've been runnning through my head - With the steady increase in graphical fidelity for next gen titles in the coming years, will native 1080p go the way 60 frames did last gen? Meaning will it even be possible? I surely hope so. I never want to go below 1080 again, but I feel many developers will have to sacrifice it for other assets of their games.

[mikeslemonade]

If true then it is a bigger deal than you would think. When you extrapolate over a generation it is very telling the difference of power and the optimization level for each system.

Just think about it.. why would Infinity Ward go the extra mile to make it 1080p on one system. They would try their damn-est to make both console holders happy considering X1 has the exclusive content. So this is very telling about how easy it is to make a superior version on a PS4, and then we can take this (if true) as a preview of the next generation; being: we can expect to see superior version to be on PS4 with every game.

This could be the difference between the Xbox original vs PS2. When every game on Xbox original looked better and performed better.

[Nitrowolf2]

@ You guys saying "1080P doesn't matter, the game will lookt he same blah blah blah on 720P blah blah blah"

Take a moment and think. If the rumors are true about the X1 not being able to do 1080P, then doesn't that tell you how underpower it is compared to a console that does support it? To me, this just proves the whole idea that the PS4 is more powerful, and it won't just show in resolution alone. It's not like IW and all these other devs are just gonna slap 1080P on the PS4, they are gonna make sure it's top notch to with performance.

[UltimateMaster]

PS4 is confirmed 1080p.
X1 isn't confirmed yet.

[Hicken]

They're only saying it because the XB1 can't or currently isn't being shown to do it. That's literally the only reason.

[webeblazing]

next gen don't mean gfx. next gen means new system for people to buy. with a lot of products(thank god its games) they could just release the same with new firmware update. if yall think next means gfx the new systems definitely didn't come far. the gfx are making progress each gen, but lets just enjoy the games people.

[ZodTheRipper]

If it would be native 1080p Microsoft would just say it straight out like Sony. But they know that this is a huge deal so they won't tell you that it's 720p or something in between.

[Benchm4rk]

If the game doesn't run at 1080p native on Xbox One it won't be from a lack of hardware but rather a software/driver problem. Looking at the specs there is no reason that it couldn't run at 1080p

[SilentNegotiator]

Only an ignorant person would ponder for a millisecond whether or not it "matters" if it's 720p or 1080p. The difference between 720p and 1080p is massive.

[badz149]

@Bigpappy

isn't "sharper" image means "better" image?

[Ps4Console]

They said this gen was 1080p but we only saw it on the PS3 on a couple of games .

[Army_of_Darkness]

1080p vs. 720p on my 50" Samsung hdtv makes a huge difference.

[IVanSpinal]

1080p or Dedicated servers?

[FITgamer]

Both on PS4.

[Schizoid]

both

[shysun]

owned!^^^

[Enemy]

Well that backfired, LMAO!

[B-radical]

If it is true i am canceling my x1 pre order. I'll just buy a new gpu for my pc next year instead

[MasterCornholio]

For 500$ you can get a real monster of a GPU.

Nexus 7 2013

[Ch1d0r1]

typical

[Ch1d0r1]

You should just man up and get a PS4, don't be one of those guys that sees Xbone as the only option. If you get that new GPU i hope you enjoy it. The new Nvidia stuff looks interesting.

[Shake_Zula]

I think it is more so that IW and MS is staying quiet on the subject for this console while its counterpart is confirmed 1080p. Typically in marketing, you want to advertise the good things, and everything else (usually negative) is left to discovery ESPECIALLY when you have direct competition. The competition in this case is a very-well marketed BF4. The silence tells us one of two things. The X1 version of the game is not going to be 1080p, and will either stay that way or the game is technically not finished and will be in a future patch (hopefully day one).

Either way, we can treat the resolution as a benchmark for how much is going to be happening in the game at one time per console. So, since CoD passed QA running 1080p it's safe to say that under the development methods, more can be added in referencing to textures and details without a need to degrade any other quality of the game. In the inverse on the X1, it can also be said that since the target resolution could not be met (again, under the prescribed development methods), the game has maxed out the hardware's current capabilities, and the addition of more detail is not possible.

With that said, I think the reason why the game doesn't look as good as it should might be because an obvious graphical difference between two versions of the game would be bad for sales overall. And for those who are wondering, there is a sizable difference between 720p and 1080p. To say that there isn't is like saying there's no discernible difference between 480p and 720p.

Sorry for the long post :)

#Geek

[bryam1982]

It dosent matter cuz the game engine.looks.like.shit

[B-radical]

It does matter it says alot for future x1 3rd party versions

[Nitrowolf2]

While I agree that the game engine and the game looking like shit, shouldn't that just further show that it does matter? If an engine like this can't get a game running 1080P on X console while the other can, doesn't that just say something? And do note, that this engine is pretty much the very same engine that's been optimized to run on the Xbox system since the first MW.

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

It wouldn't mean anything but "lazy devs" at this point. NBA 2K is going to be 1080p/60...

[joseph1111]

I agree that of Xbox one can't keep up with ps4, I am going to cancel my pre order as well... If true, Microsoft blew it this time....

[imt558]

Yes it's important to have 1080p on next-gen. C'mon dudes, 720p is the standard for the PS3/X360. Obviosly the 1080p is the next gen standard.

Too bad the COD : Ghost is not 1080p on XO. Yes, it's confirmed indirectly. How the hell Adam Boyes knows that COD : Ghost's is 1080p on PS4 and Phil Spencer or Adam Penello does not know for XO what are 3rd party are doing:

http://www.playstationlifes...

http://www.dualshockers.com...

1080p does matter. WHO THINK THAT 720P IS OK ON NEXT-GEN, THEN STAY WITH PS3/X360. 720p is not good on next-gen. And it is even worse when 720p is upscaled to 1080p on XO. GAME WILL LOOK THEN FUC**** DIMMLY!

Battlefield 4 Open Beta.

Upscaled 720p to 1080p :

http://i2.minus.com/iDViUoc...

Upscaled 900p to 1080p :

http://i3.minus.com/ibzQupH...

Pure 1080p

http://i3.minus.com/ixzjANg...

Upscaled 720p to 1080p :

http://i.imgur.com/5s48iLh....

Pure 1080p :

http://i.imgur.com/IPLimo2....

[webeblazing]

why do yall care about 1080p. I do but I don't get bent out of shape about it. people just enjoy the games. seriously if more devs start to drop res for gfx on both systems later this gen I feel like its going to be a mass suicide on this site.

[ZodTheRipper]

^Yes just accept the laziness of some devs instead of complaining about it to make it better.

[wsoutlaw87]

@webeblazing how are you going to try and say they are dropping "res for gfx"? you think they made graphical improvements on only the xb1 version and chose to lower from 1080 and just chose to make ps4 1080? dont be crazy.

[Ch1d0r1]

Right on.

[bjmartynhak]

To be honest, no big difference in my 17'' screen

I tried to download 2 movies from the same uploader just to test (one in 720p and other in 1080p). Both are highly compressed, the 720p simply sucks, while the 1080p is ok.

Depending on how the TV and the console upscale, the size of your screen and how distant you stand, it won't matter at all.

But sure, 720p, COD? This game is not even pushing graphic fidelity. At some point, I believe that PS4 games will be pushed back to 720p at the end of the generation to keep up with PCs... and what about Xbox One? This is what really concerns me.

[bjmartynhak]

lol at the disagrees,

People are really seeing any remarkable difference in these screenshots?

The building in the middle of the screen is the only different thing

720p vs 1080p depends on distance and screen size, it's a fact:
http://img.digitaltrends.co...

The biggest problem in all this is that X1 is not future-proof.

[Kayant]

The real problem here I feel is that Phil Harrison & Albert Panello has said multiple times that have no idea of the res of third-party games even though Adam Boyes from Sony somehow knows. To add to this some MS execs have been saying there won't be a difference between the two for a while.

In the case of COD I don't think it matters too much because well it's COD it's hardly the most demanding game out there & you have Ryse running @900p arguably one most the best looking next-gen games & we have Forza 5 @1080p 60fps. What matters is the fact especially with Albert Panello is that he has repetitively said he doesn't know the res of third-party game however that doesn't seem to be case as seen with Sony now the question is how far those this rabbit hole go and how many more things has he been glossing over.

But 1080p does provide more than often a noticable shaper image over 720p.

[deecee33]

I'm with Crab. Smart money says MS and IW should NEVER, ever let this happen. An inferior port would be a stain on both of their brands. Like it or not, the COD community was built around the XBox brand.

But keep eating that popcorn, boys, this could get interesting.

[tordavis]

You guys realize no matter what, people won't notice because if it is NATIVE 720p, it will upscale to 1080p anyways? And do you also realize that you get more effects at 720p than 1080p. Devs talked about this before the systems were announced.

If you want 1080p/60 on all your games, get a PC.

[imt558]

Nope, it doesn't work like that. If you get 720p upscaled to 1080p, you will not see some graphics effect clearly because picture are dimly. Go see the pictures above. The higher resolution you get, less AA you need and less jaggies there will be.

[tordavis]

You'll never know what the native 1080p version would look like if there is none, so there's nothing to compare it against. Also, it's not likely people are buying a game based on the resolution. It's more likely that people buy a game for 60fps over 30fps because that affects gameplay. And your response about 'dimly' didn't make any sense.

[StoutBEER]

See, this is my position as of now. I dont care about CoD so this doesnt bother me. But if in the future I see more and more games that are lacking, theeeen I might get worried.

[TechMech2]

Yes it matters. It would show whether Xbox one will have a significant power disadvantage, in which case it would convince many Xbox one potential buyers to buy a ps4, including myself.

[Benjammin25]

You know what's funny? Last gen 360 owners wouldn't shut up about how PS3 got so many inferior ports. But now that the Xbox One is getting them, it doesn't seem to matter anymore. This is a big deal if true, because it may mean that the definitive console version of many third party games will be on PS4

[TechMech2]

If the definitive version of games will be on ps4 (which they probably will be), then the non halo fans and non xbox fanboys will probably buy a ps4.

[StoutBEER]

@Techmech Sooooo Sony fans? Lol

[TechMech2]

No. I'm probably buying a ps4 first, and an Xbox one later. I love halo, and consider it my favorite game series, but it's not worth losing out on a larger community, better graphics for third party games, and the other Sony franchises I love.

[GmIsOnPt360]

It's 1080p 60fps on both consoles http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[pyramidshead]

article is old.

[Riderz1337]

That article is very old. Plus, wasn't Eurogamer the one who said Ryse and Killer Instinct are 1080P?

For now, it's confirmed to be running native 1080P on the PS4 by Adam Boyes. We still have yet to get an official answer from either Infinity Ward or Microsoft regarding the Xbox One's resolution.

[Software_Lover]

Does Ryse look better, Visually, than COD ghosts?

[scott182]

We really don't know for sure how Ryes looks and plays because we haven't seen a long playthrough of a campaign level yet... So far from what I have seen of screenshots and gifs it looks great.

[Ju]

First...it's a rumor. Probably not true.

But with that said, Ryse runs 900p @ 30fps. Nowhere near 60. If true - which I doubt - the XBone has some serious bandwidth issues.

[Angels3785]

Things could have changed. But in all seriousness there are people on here who are taking it as fact already without confirmation.

[BTBuck1]

Reminds me of the "Good enough" Folks during the HD-DVD vs Blu-ray format war. The people backing Blu-ray wanted it for the Higher Bit rates, lossless audio and larger disc capacity. The folks backing HD-DVD had this "it's good enough" attitude, and we see which one won that war...because enough people got behind the specs of Blu-ray disc.

[n4rc]

AFAIK. Hddvd was the cheaper solution... Disks could be made using red laser just like DVDs.. Bluray uses..duh.. Blue Lol and needed all new equipment to manufacture the disks.

That's why many backed it... Lower costs to them

[Software_Lover]

HD-DVD was the better tech, just did not have the backing. It took a couple of updates (firmware of the hardware) for Blu-Ray to gain some uses that HD-DVD already had. This of course was after the sure death of HD-DVD.

Without PS3, things might have turned out differently. I'm not saying they would have, but they might have.

[BTBuck1]

in what way was HDDVD the Better tech?

Blu-ray:
50gb disc
Max bit rate 48mbps
24.5mbps DTSHDMA Lossless audio
Durabis Hardcoating of discs (scratch resistant)

HD-DVD:
30gb disc
Max Bit rate 30.24mbps
18mbps DTSHDMA
no scratch resistant coating

Not to mention, all BD players were 1080p (only a few were for HD-DVD most 1080i) and BD had more movie studio's and CE's backing it.

[joseph1111]

Umm plus, the hd dvd was only for movies.. This was a debacle on Microsofts part...

[Rageanitus]

I remember those days, I was a strong support of Blu-ray. Main reason for me to get the launch PS3.

But it goes both ways, many of the multiplatform games were simply better on the 360, but many of the PS3 Fanboys said it was good enough and blindly said they was not much difference when there was in terms of the overall feel from FPS, Screen Tearing, Color rproduction and resoltuion.

Both crowds have their fanboys and it is quite funny how things are battled out for now reason.

[Ju]

Well, in relation to PS3s inferior performance, this time is long gone and what it actually shows is the PS3 can keep up (and exceed the 360 - latest installments show this). Technically the PS3 is in no way inferior to the 360 - counting BD and the bigger (standard) HDD, the PS3 has quite some advantages (specs wise). But here, with the next gen, if true, there is a physical difference which no optimization can overcome. This is quite a fundamental difference. Especially if you point out we had a marginal 1fps and 1% screen tear difference in the past. 720 vs 1080 is quite massive in comparison.

[Baka-akaB]

I'd usually say nope it doesnt matter . But COD hardly seems like a tech intensive game , but yet another rehash scam . So while i wouldnt blame it (yet) on the XB1 (or the ps4 if its the same) ... yeah for all it does and shows so far , it should damn well be 1080 @ 60 fps .

[wls1012]

if this is true, it does matter to me.

[PSnation4]

of course it doesn't matter!!! if you're going to be playing on the PS4 XD

[SmokeyMcBear]

Now I'm wondering whats the diffrence between an xbox 360 and an xbox1 version. That would be something to witness, along with PS3 and PS4 versions. It would say something about the development team if those verseions aren't drastically different.

[Software_Lover]

The fact of the matter is this...............

If no one said anything, 95% of you wouldn't be able to tell what resolution you are playing at. You would be focused on the game and how it looks (textures, effects, particles, etc). Resolution is not the end all be all, even in the PC realm. Sometimes, if you want to run all the "eye candy" and you don't have the power, you turn the resolution down. 720 with everything to the max will look better than 1080p and some things turned off.

Is 1080p better than 720p, yes. If all things being equal, most of us would prefer 1080p because it is the native resolution of our televisions. I'm just surprised at all the remarks about how some of you will not buy a game if it isn't 1080p.

Letting your rabid fanboyism get in the way of sound judgement.

[SmokeyMcBear]

As the article pointed out, its not really not buying the game if its not 1080p, its this console does 1080p and this other one doesn't. I wonder why that is. Couldnt they do a Ryse job and do a 900p.. or something in between, but to drop it down all the way to this generation standard of 720p is a little troubling.

[dantesparda]

Honestly, im just surprised that the x1 cant even handle this game at 1080/60fps (if the rumor is true). Otherwise, I aint surprised, with almost all their exclusives (KI, DR3, and Ryse) downgrading, the devs and rumors saying so and it being more powerful on paper. Why would anybody be surprised? Oh yeah right, thats right, cuz they're fanboys, and fanboys dont like the truth, they like to believe their own bullsh*t.

Everybody on this site, knows damn well that if the shoe were on the other foot and this was the PS4 having these issues, the internet would be ablazed with sh*t talking. But since its MS, suddenly it doesnt really matter. And all that matters is that it looks good, or is fun, or that 60 frames! People are so phony its insulting

[creatchee]

@dantesparda

"Everybody on this site, knows damn well that if the shoe were on the other foot and this was the PS4 having these issues, the internet would be ablazed with sh*t talking. But since its MS, suddenly it doesnt really matter. And all that matters is that it looks good, or is fun, or that 60 frames! People are so phony its insulting"

Have you actually visited the internet in the past 7-8 months? There is absolutely no shortage of hate on the Xbox One for what it does, doesn't, can, and can't do. The PS4 has come under approximately zero fire since reveal.

I'm not saying anything is justified or unjustified, but Microsoft hasn't gotten a free pass in a long time.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

@creatchee

Remember when Bioshock came to PS3 and Big Daddy had few large pixels on its back in certain situations? That was a huge deal back then. Now all of a sudden 720 is the same as 1080.

[Enemy]

@ whoyouwit04: What's funnier is you trying to debunk rumors with ancient old articles that people forgot even existed.

This is now, and for as much as it's circulating around the web, neither Activision nor Microsoft have debunked the rumor. Where's the recent claim from Activision that BOTH versions will be 1080p native?

Try again, whoyouwit04.

[whoyouwit04]

Did you even bother to check the date on the article? It clearly says 23 OCT 2013. and is today not the 24? See, that what I'm saying about you sony fans; you don't even allow your self to see the truth when it's right in your face. You are claiming a article from yesterday is ancient or did you even click on the link i provided?

[Enemy]

Your source is quoting a Eurogamer article from June. Try AGAIN, whoyouwit04.

Just got told by a Sony fan. How's that truth feel?

[creatchee]

@Enemy

Sooooooo your rumor is better than his? Are we really at the point when we're in a pissing contest over the strength of rumors and conjecture?

Wait for facts, analyze them, then form an opinion. It's a tried and true method that has worked since cognitive thought became a thing.

[fenome]

@creatchee

Enemy isn't even trying to spread a rumor though, so your comment doesn't apply to his topic. He's just shutting down whoyouwit04 because his source was already proven false, so he's trying to stop some of the misinformation that's floating around from bullshit "articles".

It hasn't been confirmed yet, and personally it doesn't matter to me, I already know what system I'm getting and I don't play COD so whatevs

EDIT:
@creatchee

I still gave you an agree though, because your post definitely applies to the whole rest of this thread, I just think it should've been a stand alone comment instead of a reply to Enemy

[True_Samurai]

@Enemy & @Fenome so you're telling me that recent article From Official Xbox Magazine is not good enough to debunk a rumor oooook . And Activision and ms have series of partnerships together. You're really gone believe that they'll allow the ps4 to run at 1080p 60fps but not x1?

[fenome]

@True_Samurai

Look at the quotes in the article, he never says it's running on 1080 on the Xbox One..

As revealed by Eurogamer in June, the game runs at 60 frames per second in 1080p. "We actually have a 4K TV at work and got the game running on that," Rubin told the site at the time. "It looks phenomenal. The 4K TVs have a max hertz of 30, so we're maxing it out. It looks amazing!"

The quotes from him start AFTER it says "as revealed by Eurogamer, blah blah 60 1080" but it never actually quotes him saying that it's running on the Xbox One, it was Eurogamer saying that.

I don't really care if does or doesn't personally, and I seriously bet they're both probably the same since COD is all about the quick money-grab anyways.

I'm just saying, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SAID YET. Jesus Christ guys, give this crap up already, shit's worse than politics

[gaffyh]

Never actually says native or not, so you don't really know. I'm fine with 720p standard at the very least tbh. Any lower and that is quite a disappointment, but it's early days and there will be some issues on both consoles.

@Enemy - He is a massive Xbox fanboy, he's on full damage control mode at the moment. Just ignore him.

[Rageanitus]

lol console fanboy wars..... I thought 720p was good enough?

Lets just let the games come out. It's gonna be quite funny down the line around the 4 year mark, were gonna see the consoles struggle doing 720p. Why because performance of a console is static for good 6> 8 years.

Truth is 1080p at 45+ FPS is the standard of PC and very atainable.

Both consoles should be aiming at this range for the whole life cycle if the console crowd truly feels they need graphics.

[SmokeyMcBear]

performance of a console is static?!?!? Look at lauch ps2 games and GOW2. Look at launch PS3 games and then the last of us. There is no way a console performance is static. In fact, consoles have the ability to be optimized to a much greater extent than their PC counterparts. Just look at the actual parts of 360 and PS3, and see what a PC with those same spec can put out. cmon now. I agree that 1080p and 45 fps should be a hard target.

[Rageanitus]

the console specs remain static from a hardware perspective. There is STILL limitations as to how much throughput the hardware can handle. Hence the reason why there is the term called bottleneck.

Yes software from launch looks worse than end of the life cycle, because there is a learning curve as to how to program for the static hardware. But have you not noticed games started off native 720P and even some games at 1080p at a decent frame rate. Yet near the end of the generation many of the games struggle to atain native 720p and at the same time sacrifice much of the FPS. It is a bottleneck being displayed.

A good way to see how much power a console has is take a handful of consoles games and compare how much these games have advanced over the course of 5 years.... then take the exact time frame and compare it to the PC games. You will see a much drastic increase on a PC vs t he console.

Btw I had the similar GPU on my PC the time the 360 came out. Gears of War looked way better on the PC vs the 360.... You make it sound that a PC cannot be optimized! very closed minded. There is a reason why ATI and Nvidia release drivers often

[flipflopfacts]

At first I read the website as Shittybox.com. Then i thought the fanboys and finally lost it and came to accept their console is shitty.

[Software_Lover]

flipflop????

Romney?

[spaceg0st]

For gameplay? Not really... But in regards to long term, I'd rather be on the side that can... Over the side that can't.

[DEEBO]

Word of advice
if you can't see the difference between 1080p and 720p it's time for a better t.v or a pair of glasses.

[Flutterby]

You will notice the only ppl that can't tell the difference are either xboners or xboners pretending they aren't .

[DEEBO]

Yeah i know it's the bluray not needed until we put it in the x1 720p argument again.

If the shoe was on the other foot it would be a xbox fanboy circle jerk but now it doesn't matter.

we don't believe you,you need more people!

[MasterCornholio]

And if LOT and Digital Foundary prove that multiplats are better on the PS4 , the Xbox One fans will accuse those sites of being run by Sony fanboys who doctor the comparisons to make the PS4 version seem superior to the Xbox One version.

Trust me its going to happen. The two consoles are not the same so there's bound to be some differences between the two which is something that all gamers need to accept.

Nexus 7 2013

[Shadonic]

Not really from what I've seen it could be exactly like BO2 graphically with brighter lights and 90% of the COD fans on my xbox live will buy it.

[Lboogieskells]

I'm still don't understand why COD Ghost is on anyones radar.

[LEOPARD1030]

Yes and lot of. Specially at large scenarios.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[SilentGuard]

If true, it matters becuase it shows the power difference between the Xbox One and PS4. Any next gen console should be able to produce 1080p games without problem and no hiccups. If Xbox One has troubles with this now how will things look a few years down the road?

[TheSsus]

It'll still sell like hotcakes. Resolution is irrelevant to the average CoD player, its all about ease of use, framerate and pace.

[bromtown]

It doesn't matter if you don't have a 1080p TV but otherwise of course it matters. 720p is less than half the pixels of 1080p, a fair bit of potential definition not to use. Especially on distance objects which just become shapes if you don't have enough pixels for the detail

[Max-Zorin]

Console gamers just kicking back laughing at the console community argue about a resolution they've been using before it was cool.

[Flutterby]

Oh yeh that makes sense , I think it might be time to l2read your sentences before posting then huh?

[Max-Zorin]

I was rushing and watching college Football highlights at the same time. And I was rushing, didn't even bother to proof read. It's not the end of the world.

[Max-Zorin]

Wow my edit didn't go through. *PC.

[RiPPn]

It may not matter for this particular game, but it's a tell of things to come on the Xbox One.

[Supermax]

Um iw stated that the game was 1080 p 60 fps months ago on x1 and ps4 stop being sheep.

[Flutterby]

Gotta love the pre-emptive defense , the Xbox one fans are all saying who cares it doesn't matter at the same as saying its not even true it's a rumor , just so they have both sides covered lol, if it turns out to be true MS should be ashamed , but I can imagine they are throwing money at ppl anyway in hopes each million dollars increases the res. who knows really tho and if it's true then it only confirms once again what we already know and that is the ps4 has more power, and that leads me to another thing if the xboners really don't care that the ps4 has more power why don't they stop defending it and replying to everything and just let it be hmmm , I know for a fact if it was the other way around the xboners would be blowing horns and parading in the street but alas no cigar.

[quenomamen]

These Sony fanboys really need to stop ! Everybody knows the reason Ghosts is currently only running at 720p is cuz the Xbone has not been officially released, therefore they have not turned on Teh Cloud, therefore no 1080p ! Hellooooooo ! My gawd, you guys are stupid !

[sAVAge_bEaST]

Spoken like a true rep.manager. (;

[SKYVVLKR]

Not when the gameplay is recycled and plain. The engine is outdated also. GG, Activision but BF4 and Killzone: SF are getting my money this year.

[SuicideKing]

If this is true than I seriously am not very excited about my Xbox pre-order anymore. I have both consoles pre ordered and was way more excited about my Xbox then my PlayStation. I currently have way more games preordered for my Xbox as well. I mean graphics aren't everything to me at all, so I didn't care if PlayStation was a little more powerful, but this is too much of a difference. I will be able to tell the difference between 1080 and 720 as I game on a 60 inch t.v.

This is the first time that I have doubted the Xbox. I mean call of duty is the Xbox best selling game and they can't hit 1080. Very disappointed

[KingTrash]

It's another BS Sony fanboy rumor. Relax...don't believe the hype!

[SEAN1617]

I don't believe its a rumor, however i do think that MS will do whatever they can to get the game to 1080P before launch, unless the game has gone Gold.

[RiPPn]

I think the game has gone gold because there are already unboxing videos of the Prestige Edition.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Doesn't mean there can't be a day one patch though.

[horndog]

Unless you have a hdtv display of 50" or bigger you won't notice a difference between the two. Also if you sit 2 feet away from your tv then you might also notice a bit of diference. So it really depends on ditance and size of display.

The real question is does it really matyer in a game that looks like last gen?? To me with those graphics looking like ass for a next gen game it will be like playing super mario on the NES in 1080p.

[SEAN1617]

I personally don't think it matters all that much as far as the fun one would have playing the game is concerned. Yet, I would think it matters regarding what this says about the state of a next-gen console which can't push an old engine to higher resolutions then current consoles. Nevertheless I am sure there is just a larger learning curve when it comes to programing for the XB1.

[KingTrash]

Yes, it most definitely matters but it's also most definitely a bunch of crap like many of the negative Xbox One rumors being spread over the last several months. The power difference in these consoles is minimal. The truth will come out soon.

[SEAN1617]

I just say have fun playing the game. If you are an Xbox Fan get it on the XB1, if you like the PS4 get it on that. If you have both, then get it on the platform that preforms better with that game.

[tcozzens]

Thank you for being one of the few that aren't brainwashed on this site lol

[lensington]

There isn't much difference between 1080p and 720p unless you put your eyes a few inches from the screen, then and only then you can see the difference. The lines appear a little bit more jagged (but not much)at 1280X720p when your eyes are a few inches from the screen. Now as your eyes are still close to the screen seeing those jagged lines at 720p start taking steps backwards and notice how those jagged lines are not jagged anymore lol. There is no possible way to tell the difference from a few feet away. It's similar to looking at grains of sand close up, yes you can see the individual grains up close, but when you go far away all you can see is SAND lol. If you ask me, people are fools for buying 4K tv's. There is no way in hell that you can see a difference between 1080p and 2160p unless you are inches away from the tv (and who watches tv or games 5 inches from their screen? Nobody lol. And on another level, it's so easy to sell these "4K" tv's to suckers and have them believe there is a difference lol, just the fact that the resolution is a higher number is enough to get the average consumer to want it. The higher the number the better, that is how marketing works and people are sucked into believing it. So take my word for it, there is not really any difference between resolutions unless your either.....

a) really close to the tv or....
b) watching a 240p youtube video and then switching it to 1080p lol

I hope someone can agree on this, otherwise your just plain ignorant lol. Also, try the test yourself with your own eyes and you will see.

[cyclindk]

Despite any evidence, I really just find it difficult to believe, at least with THIS of all games, that it could not run at 1080p on an Xbox One...

It makes almost no sense, this game shouldn't be taxing either console unless there is some huge visual element they are not demonstrating, or even non-visual/a.i. or physics/ballistic system in place consuming vast resources...

Not saying PS4 doesn't have a significant hardware edge, but this isn't the game that should be highlighting the gap between the two consoles... Unless Xbox One is far less capable then even RUMOR has made it out to be.

[SEAN1617]

I think your point is why this is being viewed as, " such a huge Deal " If COD is 720p what next?

[cyclindk]

Yeah definitely, if it turns out the box just can't put out... I think this will have a significant impact. Especially as time goes by and PS4 maintaining a price advantage.

I honestly dont know anyone, personally, who gives two craps about the tv/cable integration on Xbox One..

[tcozzens]

As I posted, before I read your comment, I totally agree man.

"lol. Anyone see that NBA 2k14 runs 1080p and 60fps on both xbox one and ps4? 2k sports said it runs the same on both xbox and playstation so this whole dumb xbox one cant hit 1080p and 60fps is just ridiculous. I mean 2k14 is no doubt one of the best looking launch games, and it outshines cod graphics by a butt load...."

[tcozzens]

lol. Anyone see that NBA 2k14 runs 1080p and 60fps on both xbox one and ps4? 2k sports said it runs the same on both xbox and playstation so this whole dumb xbox one cant hit 1080p and 60fps is just ridiculous. I mean 2k14 is no doubt one of the best looking launch games, and it outshines cod graphics by a butt load....

[AuraAbjure]

Graphics don't matter. All that matters is framerate. Can you pwn n00bs in a game with bad graphics? Yes. What about crappy stuttering framerates? Nooooope.

[IRAQI_PS4]

yes ..

[KingKevo]

So they say that it does not matter in the article, which is quite stupid in my opinion. It may not be that much of a difference at this point and a lot of people won't really pay attention, but there is a huge difference. You could theoretically ask the same question to people hoe buy Blu-Rays and not DVD's o(which I know is more extreme) or watch videos on YouTube in 1080p instead of 720p or to those people who upgrade their graphics cards on a constant basis or those who prefer PC gaming instead of console gaming just for the looks. Why would those people upgrade if it wouldn't matter. It does and we will realize this when we see it and when we see some more advanced engines (the IW engine is... well, net the best one). It will soon become the standard.

[FanboyKilla]

cod ghost MAYBE 720p on x1, it may have terrible graphics, but it will still be better than sonys generic shooter kill zone. lol ''exclusive'' lol

[beerzombie]

I think you have to sit around 5 or so feet close to a TV depending on the size of the TV to see the differences. That's why 4k will not make a big impact until 100 inches in typical Americans home. Most Americans sit 10 feet away from TV especially console gamers. pc gamers sitting at a monitor can tell by being inches away from screen. These are facts; the eye can take in only a finite amount of resolution the higher the resolution the closer you can sit without seeing pixels. I'm not say 1080p isn't better but seeing it will depend on how close you sit to the TV.

[NeoTribe]

What a dumb question to an article. Would you rather play games in 720 or 1080? Ofcourse it matters you flame baiting retard.

[GameHero]

OMG! THE CLOUD! THE CLOUD WILL SAVE US ALL...PFFF!

PS4TW!

[jaxx377]

It only matters to the less than 10% of actual gamers that go online and complain about this sort of thing.(Me being one of them) Little Timmy's mommy is still going get him his COD fix on whatever platform he wants and the game will still sell more than enough to justify them not actually doing anything different year after year. It has, does and will continue to look like shit until enough people stop buying it and either force them to upgrade or dump it completely.

[LarryB]

I think it matters, but not as much as it will down the road. We still have to factor in optimization issues on both sides that completely undermine the raw power of the XB1. I will say that they need to get their shit together...

[DrJones]

Yes.

[JediDiah]

Ok if I want to score a PS4 on launch day...what would you suggest?

[arbitor365]

considering that this new COD hardly looks better than the previous games, its crazy that a next gen console is having problems running it. no matter what the reason, it is shocking that COD, of all franchises, is going to have a worse xbox version. the PS4 is looking to be the better console for multiplats this gen