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Bold Prediction: The Wii U Will Outsell The PlayStation 4 and Xbox One This Holiday

Gamnesia: "Before I begin I should note a few things about myself. No, I am not Michael Pachter. What I mean to say is, I am not an expert in the field of studying the stock market and predicting future trends. Chances are Mr. Pachter’s figures for console sales this holiday will likely be more accurate than mine, which is why I am not going to dabble too much in exact numbers. There are people way smarter than I am who will do that for me as time moves on.

I am also really not an expert in anything else. I’m a video game enthusiast. I enjoy playing video games regardless of platform and I’ve been writing about video games for over a decade. My opinions are my own and they don’t represent anyone else at the site. Some like what I have to say and sure, occasionally I have been spot on when predicting things, but overall it’s a wash. You win some you lose some.

Saying the Wii U is going to outsell the two upcoming generation 8 consoles seems like a crazy thought. The Wii U sold massively at launch and was one of Nintendo’s highest selling console launches ever—but sales have really tailed off. Worldwide, there were 3.5 million units sold during the holidays last year and last I counted, the Wii U hasn’t passed 4 million in the 10 months since. Still, things are lining up for another stellar holiday season—to the point where I firmly believe it can outsell both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One."

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_QQ_3834d ago

Very bold prediction, The only way i see that happening is if Nintendo Advertises Wiifit U on news stations ect as the newest must have exercise product and the casuals eat it up.

darthv723834d ago

nintendo would be worried people might try and stand on the gamepad. unless...of course, they really let people know that all their existing wii accessories (like the wiifit balance board) works with the wii-u.

In fact, they should have been upselling a feature which is sorely lacking on the up coming ps4/xb1. direct play BC for all previous wii titles.

But back to the main topic...outselling the likes of ps4/xb1...yeah that is a bold prediction.

us_army3834d ago

A nice article, and well said opinions, but I'm sorry to respectfully tell you that this is not happening. It may win in a particular region, however looking at worldwide sales, this won't even be remotely close unfortunately for Nintendo. I wish I could elaborate, but these console launches are about to be massive... Yes I said both, as both wouldve beaten the previous record. As for who will sell more head to head this holiday, I think most peoples current assumptions will hold truth.

mikeslemonade3834d ago

Nintendo has really lost all of its mindshare. Everyone knew what the Wii1 was and the casual gamers thought motion technology was so amazing.

Right now.. the same people hardly know that there is a WiiU. The Xbox 360 and PS3 will sell more than the WiiU this holidays.

badz1493834d ago

the writer said "No, I am not Michael Pachter."

he meant his prediction is gonna be right?

or he just wanted to imply that he's not Super Captain Obvious?

UltimateMaster3834d ago

I predict the PS4 will outsell the Wii U's 1 year lead starting this holiday by next spring.

rainslacker3834d ago (Edited 3834d ago )

Yeah, Sony said they already have over 1 million pre-orders. That's up to 1.5 now by some reports. One MS rep hinted that X1 has at least 1 million pre-oders, but gave no concrete numbers.

So at a minimum, Both systems will sell AT LEAST 1 million units before Thanksgiving even rolls around.

This doesn't take into account that Sony is reporting to have units available throughout the holiday in store, but doesn't really comment on how likely it will be available...whether a trickle or constant stream.

Now I really like the Wii U, but given it's current status, it's hard to imagine that it's going to come anywhere close to those numbers. Nintendo hasn't even been pushing it in the marketing department lately.

Edit: Sorry, meant to reply to OP to reference Shnazzyone's comment below.:(

BattleAxe3834d ago

Nintendo stupidity coming from Nintendo fans has gotten way way out of control. It's almost like saying that the color red is actually the color blue, this is how ridiculous things have gotten with these people.

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Thatguy-3103834d ago

Nintendo sold that much at launch because of the core fan base. The fans are the ones that go nuts at launch. The fact that the console hasn't sold much ever since just goes to show they won't do all the great this holiday when the fanbase from sony/Microsoft will go all out

mcstorm3834d ago

I think it will be interesting to see how well the Xbox one and pa4 sell for the 1st few months as I only know a few people who have one pre ordered as they are getting there 3rd party fix still on there current console. The 2 people I know who have pre ordered the one are getting it for Forza and the one I know who is getting a ps4 has it on pre order for kz.

I don't know anyone who is looking at picking up a wiiu but that said with the price drop games like pikmin, Lego city, Mario 3d, sonic lost worlds, wiiu fit etc all out the last few months of the year the wiiu has a impressive line up for a great price they just need to do what they did with the 3ds and market the hell out of it over the next few months.

Can it out sell the one and ps4 I don't see why it can't but there is a lot of work to be done if they have any chance of doing this.

Shnazzyone3834d ago

I could forsee wii U still holding the lead in total next gen consoles sold for a while potentially well past the holiday season. Being the winner of the christmas sales however, I don't forsee. Only convievable way is if somehow the sales between xbone and ps4 is very divided and nintendo does a smidge better with a mario game to prop it up.

However i'm unsure it could keep the total market systems number all through the system cycle. My guess is wii u will be number 2. Maybe lose the lead at the end of the console cycle.

GordonKnight3834d ago

Casual gamers are about 75% of the market. This is the reason Nintendo will sale more consoles this holiday. The biggest factor is the number of games Nintendo will have this holiday season.

Don't get me wrong the PS4 & XBONE will sale great at lauch, but after that they will look like the Wii U due to small selection of games. This is when the Wii U is going to sale great. I'm just glad I have a Wii U already. I'll enjoying great Nintendo games after I've played the PS4 & XBONE launch titles. Good luck hating a great system with great games so called Hardcoregamers.

_QQ_3833d ago

I'm not hating it, i own a Wiiu and love it, but i'm just being real, It will do well this holiday but not as well as ps4/xboxone.

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king_george3834d ago

im a fan of nintendo but yeah.... ur comment pretty much summed up my thoughts.

black0o3834d ago

dude no one hates nintendo ♥ .. i own Wii and i'll get Wii U if got extra money

Studio-YaMi3834d ago

New 3D Mario is going to be awesome to play,I really love 3D Mario games.

You should get a WiiU later if you haven't already,wait for the WiiU exclusive library to wide up though,3D Mario is a must buy(for me at least!).

king_george3834d ago

wait what? I didnt say you hated nintendo. I was agreeing with u black0o

iamnsuperman3834d ago

A prediction should come with a reasonable evidence and the only one here is the lower price argument. I feel Nintendo is expecting a low unit sale this Christmas (evident by no major software release this Christmas and all the big ones seemed to be pushed into a 2014 release)

Look I think it is naive to think Nintendo's Wii U will have a good Christmas considering two major systems are launching. It doesn't matter what Nintendo does because those two system will get the attention no matter what (which is a why it is a good thing for Nintendo not to try and push this Christmas. I think they should have been doing the push these last few months, even from January, but it's too late for that now). They need to concentrate on 2014

rainslacker3834d ago

From everything I've seen Nintendo seems to care more about the 3DS than the Wii U. They have been pushing it hard. This year we saw a remodel, as well as a 2DS line which is significantly cheaper. Big games like Fire Emblem and Pokemon, and a Zelda coming out soon....all in time for the holidays. The number of exclusive Nintendo titles on the 3DS is quite impressive actually.

R00bot3834d ago

Nintendo always cares more about the handhelds than the consoles. That's just how it is I guess, and they are king at handheld gaming.

OrangePowerz3834d ago

PS4 and Xbone will sell out this holiday season I can`t see how Nintendo would be able to compete with that for the Wii U especially without any huge top tier game.

OrangePowerz3834d ago

i`m sure it will be a fun game, but launchin in the US on the same day as the Xbone and a week after the PS4 and in Europe on the same day as the PS4 means it will go under in the media. I will pick it up, but it`s not a system seller. I talk about something like a full new Zelda game or a full new 3D Mario game.

Studio-YaMi3834d ago (Edited 3834d ago )

It will surely move hardware and software sales for the WiiU,don't think it will outsell the PS4 or XboxOne though since it's their LAUNCH and already sold out.

Not to mention that the XboxOne has a great launch line-up with the PS4 right behind it with a good launch as well(lacking exclusives atm but still has major third party games coming for it & the exclusives are just around the corner for the first Q of 2014).

So,a short answer would be .. no!

TechMech23834d ago

I don't think that's on many people's biggest game of 2013 list. 3d land was terrible in my opinion

N4g_null3834d ago

Add wii sports club and wii fit u with a sprinkle of wii u party. I know ill be trying out club and ill finally be getting wii fit with the u version. Gots to get fit for the new health care policy lol.

Also 3d mario spurred the 3ds come back and I doubted that until I played it. Im so looking to play thur that game with the other 3d mario players in my house. Plus we maybe getting a wiiu for the suv so im looking at the bundles.

killzone has never been a system seller... the racing games do ok but I dont see a project cars killer yet... if those screens are to be believed then the wiiu wins just off style and being way way cheaper.... with rentable games starting to appear.

then we all wait for the next gta 5 event on current gen which does not effect nintendo s line up but sonys very much. Another thing is the power is going to fad and the paying for online is going to be a monkey on your shoulder no matter how cheap it is if you are not getting what you want to play.

plus mk8, x, smash are on the horizon.... black friday is the ultimate day to preparefor those games on the cheap. Then we all can wait to see if the ps4 is all it is cracked up to be.

you have to understand gamers only buy if their type of game is being supported...I only got a ps3 for god... bayo2 puts that ffuture purchase at jeopardy.... im in cali today and I would like santa monica to show something.

The 10th Rider3834d ago

Why does everyone downplay Super Mario 3D World? I admit that I was disappointed when they announced it, but the more they show the better it looks. Not to mention the last two home console 3D Mario games are two of the highest rated games out there. I'm still skeptical and not expecting it to be Super Mario Galaxy (or even Super Mario Sunshine) awesome, but at the same time I realize it can't be counted out.

slivery3834d ago (Edited 3834d ago )

How many games are you going to list before you realize these games are not moving that many systems?

You said that about Pikmin 3, you said that about Wind Waker, you said that about Wonderful 101 and didn't you even say that about Sonic, now you expect this new 3D Mario game to? Definitely is not the 3D Mario anyone really wanted is going to sell Wii U's?

I don't think it will be like NSMBU and the problem is even though that game got the second best sales out of all Wii U games, second to Nintendo Land.. It still did not move that many systems, so why would this new Mario?

I don't expect this new bundle to sell at all either really, it might sell a bit more for the holidays sure but it won't be great by any means, as everyone will want this new Mario instead. Kind of weird to me they would release a bundle after these games have been out for some good time now.

Usually when you want a bundle to sell, you package it with new games, not old ones.

Why didn't they just make a bundle for Super Mario 3D world instead? That would have made a lot more sense to me it would help sell more Wii U's this holiday. That is a really dumb decision on Nintendo's part to package a new bundle with old Mario games, really dumb actually. I don't understand where they come up with these bad ideas especially when the Wii U's sales are hurting so badly.

Also anyone who thinks the Wii U is going to outsell the PS4 and Xbox One even me being a supporter of the Wii U I will say that is beyond wishful thinking.

Have you people not be paying attention to anything lately? All the people asked constantly about what systems they will be getting and notice how barely anyone or no one at all even mentions the Wii U. Whether you choose to accept that, it is not a good sign and based on that I highly doubt the Wii U will even do that great this holiday. Not saying it won't sell some more units as probably every handheld and console will get a boost this holiday but I still cannot ignore the obvious lack of interest that many people have with the Wii U. Tons of people still don't even know what it is, that is just crazy.

I don't see how anyone with all that has been happening with the Wii U sees it recovering that fast.

I think games like Mario Kart, Smash Bro's and X will be a real testament to how well this thing is going to do, if games like that cannot move more systems then damn I don't know what will really. Guess we could wait until there is some news about this new Zelda game whenever that is supposed to release.

As said I don't think the Wii U will be beating the PS4 or Xbox One for that matter for a good while.

Even on tons of websites, they are giving away PS4's and Xbox One's in contests but again is the Wii U even apart of all this madness, nope.

Even major retailers are just advertising the PS4 and Xbox One again leaving the Wii U to sit on the back burner.

DejectedJeff3834d ago

@slivery
No one said Pikmin 3 would sell systems, it sold way more hardware than anyone expected. Its a niche title and a sequel to a meh selling gamecube game. Also no one said the wonderful 101 would sell systems, no one smart anyway. Its a niche title made by a developer notorious for poor selling games (platinum). Sonic is an exception, because we thought that would actually be a decent game when reviews are looking bad. Either way its not even out in the US so no way to gauge how much of a system seller it is. You ignore the sales acheived with the release of the windwaker bundle.
Mario kart, 3D mario, donkey kong, X (in japan), and smash bros are system sellers, that combined with the already released software will push sales.

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Donnyskillz3834d ago

your right pissy4 and xbox one will sell out this holiday season

Godoftheweek3834d ago

The author must live on Bull#hit mountain.

TripC503834d ago

It's actually pretty nice there this time of year.

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Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow18h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos6h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos4h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje4h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon4h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum2h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola1h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola1h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum36m ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad3h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola1h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos1h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai3h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK2h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh2h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.