Battlefield 4 trailer with dog punch divides opinion

Product-Reviews writes: Obviously this is an attempt to insert a bit of comedy into the game, as we all know that the rival game Call of Duty Ghosts is going to be centered around a German Shepherd dog named Riley. Is this a bit of harmless fun by DICE and EA, or do you think it is going a little bit too far?

[tr00p3r]

DICE going too far. It's all good poking fun at COD which we all enjoy, but not in this way.

[Kingthrash360]

so stabbing chicks in the neck is ok but sock a dog and it's "too far?"
lol wow.
i dont care if chicks die or about dogs getting hurt...its gaming, nothings real. we as gamers have shot may dogs in games from tlou to resident evil to cod black ops. we killed plenty of over breasted chicks in games from gta to mgs to almost every rpg ever made... gtfo "too far" lol so dumb...just play and enjoy games they are ALL fictional.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Screw the dog! I say shooting people in video games alone is going to far dammit! Nobody ever cares for all the dead humanized pixels out there! Nobody but meeee!
We have a melee button, but no hug button? ?

[Kleptic]

Give me a call, dude...

we need to kickstart a first person hugger NOW!!!!!

[aCasualGamer]

I can see why it causes such an emotional backlash at EA though. The part where he punches the dog has no context it's simply a punch to the dogs face followed by a squeal from the dog. If we saw a snippet of why he punched the dog then it would've been "forgiven" if that makes any sense.

I'm probably the realist though, and understand that it's only a videogame... but it's never that black/white. It's the meaning behind showing that part that's disturbing to some. If someone shows a baby getting raped in their videogame trailer, chances are.. not many people will say "hey.. it's just a videogame"... the majority would probably react differently.

What i'm saying is, it's not just that it's a game... it's what they are trying to convey through it. People who say, "it's just a game so why are people reacting" are pretty ignorant. There isn't a real dog getting hurt, that's true but it's not only the dog getting hurt that is the bad part it's people who see it can get hurt too. Especially dog owners.

I would say in this specific trailer, i didn't really find it disturbing but i find it stupid to not show any more context.

[PrimeGrime]

Bubbled you up. Well said.

Ironic because I was literally just thinking about this in the morning. One reason I don't own or will ever own pets is mainly because of all this nonsense. Now you may think what does that have to do with this? Well hear me out...

People are completely stupid, sell humans they get angry, sell animals, no one cares, kill a human people get outraged, kill an animal no one really gives a shit. This is basically the same idiocy just reversed.

I am so sick of games being ridiculed lately also, I cannot stand it because just like you said, games are not real, they are meant to depict things we would normally not do or cannot do in reality. What is so wrong with that? I remember a time when people just had fun with that concept instead of bitching like little babies all day.

I would much rather have a person vent and punch a dog or person in the face in a video game than in real life.

I also remember a time when games were far more ridiculous than they are now and no one cared then, all this seems like a trend and it seems like they still don't give a rats ass they just try to act like it for hits or for some fake image to promote themselves. I don't have a problem with feminist, equal rights or people pointing out animal cruelty but for god sakes its a god damn video game.

My main problem is like I said, it has become more of a trend to do this and nothing more. Which is proven by all the real world problems that exist that these people ignore then have the nerve to act like they care once they see it in a video game. Isn't that just ass backwards? Nothing new in this world I suppose.

[FamilyGuy]

I'm surprised punching a dog wasn't/isn't an option in the CoD games. Those things get instant kills when they attack you. It would've been cool to be able to punch them as well as the timed stab attack or shooting them.
Funny how no one makes a big deal about shooting and stabbing them in cod though.

[zeal0us]

Whelp won't be long before some animal lovers and some organizations(PETA, specifically) are outrage.

[Kleptic]

f that...he punched the dog in the original 'fishing' trailer, the announcement for BF4 to being with...and he shot the other one...

and no one said a word...its only because of the kick in the teeth IW got with their 'next gen tech like dogs and fish'...which came after the BF4 17 minute announcement trailer...thats the only reason anyone cares...

the trailer definitely pokes fun at that...but who the hell cares? oh, the joke that is gaming media does...i forgot...

I'm not disagreeing, by the way...just stating...this is retarded...

[Blaze929]

I find it funny how we as people accept so much derogatory and abusive content toward ourselves but even think about harming an animal and picket signs are being drawn with complaints.

plz stfu

[Hufandpuf]

I don't have a problem with killing a dog in a game, but lets be honest. Dogs are just following orders from US HUMANS, so it can be seen as cruelty to animals on the basis that they are even in a war that they have no say in.

[Feralkitsune]

Dogs have better rights than us humans do.

[RaptorGTA]

@tr00p3r

I don't get this...the dog punching scene was shown in the "Fishing in Baku" trailer...before we knew there was a COD dog. The dog is clearly attacking the soldier and he is defending himself. What is the problem here? Are we really that bored in society we have to get angry for a fictitious character hitting a group of polygons?

[FullmetalRoyale]

JUST A GROUP OF POLYGONS!?! But.... they're puppygons!

As in that puppy is gone.

[fghtrer3fb5erg]

I know that feeling, Its just a game though, bro, id be pist off too if it happened in real life.

[ATi_Elite]

"Punching a Dog"

Now hold on a Got Dam minute here you DO NOT punch Dogs!!!!

We all know you're suppose to kick the SHt out of them when they attack you.

I'm a Proud Supporter of PETA

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

Some of you need to remember that you're at the TOP of the food chain so act like it.

Imagine other animals at the top of the food chain Do you think Sharks, Lions, T-Rex, Bears, Komodo Dragons would have an organization that protected Human Rights? Hell NO they would just Gobble us up as fast as they could.

[iNcRiMiNaTi]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

No one complained when you could snap a dog's neck and kill it in CoD4 but punching a dog in BF4!? That's over the top and offensive... :/

[StoutBEER]

Yea really guys? I love dogs, i grew up around dogs and have two dogs that sleep in my bed sometimes. But if a dog jumped on me and was attacking the fuck outta me, i would do a helluva lot worse than punch him. What am I supposed to lay down and go "No no no I will honor this animal and PETA and let it rip out my throat." Nope.

[trywizardo]

relax its just BF killing ghosts
beside i killed a lot of dogs in V by burning them shooting them car crash and even kicking them ;)

[BallsEye]

What's the big deal? Pitbull bit me once, I punched him, he lost it. Is he a victim?

[Phene]

I guess you've never watched tv or movies....

It's always funny the attention games receive when movies are so much worst in terms of fictional violence. I can understand portraying violence for the sake of violence being an issue, but my first point still stands.

Also lol @ BF4, that's pretty funny if it's a little jan at COD

[Majin-vegeta]

oh no DICE showed a scene where thry punched a dog big whoop dee do.Get over it its not like they harmed a real life animal.

Riley really is one of a kind.it can take out Helis yet it can't withstand a punch xD.

[Mikelarry]

O Riley

http://a.disquscdn.com/uplo...

[djplonker]

I hate prudes that say this offends me because...blah blah blah.

I think its funny It gave me a laugh and I have 3 dogs!

also previous call of duty games has you snapping thier necks in the campaign.

[BX81]

Hate? Really bro? I'm sure there is something that offendes you. I don't mind people expressing there feelings but I don't agree with things like not selling Medal of Honor on military bases because the families were upset over insurgents vs. American soldiers in the multiplayer.

[djplonker]

To be honest I cant think of anything it is hard to find anything offensive when you are from scotland.... any major tragedy happens I get 10+ jokes sent to me an hour after it happens

I deal with stuff by laughing and joking about it and its always other people that gets offended never me...

[Majin-vegeta]

OP why you not liketh this??
http://farm6.staticflickr.c...

[ritsuka666]

I really support PETA on campaign against BF4 for promoting animal cruelty.

Black Block, We are the Resistance.

[HolyDuck]

So you think spending money and time saving virtual animals is better than spending the money and time on real animals? Even though everyone knows PETA slays more animals than it saves.

Edit - Plus, you support PETA for their campaign against BF4 promoting animal cruelty but promoting murder is fine?

[Shadonic]

So you believe that the dog should of killed the soldier instead because as humans we shouldn't kill or harm any animal even if they are intending to kill us even in a virtual world where no souls are lost. Besides How long have dogs been in COD with us shooting them in multiplayer or the spec ops modes ?

[fghtrer3fb5erg]

First off, if it happend in the real world, what was that soldier doing there? are wars really needed, though? How about a huge asteroid would just end life on earth instead of human race destroying it slowly?

[ATi_Elite]

I want you to go to the "Wrong Side of town" and WALK down the street at night!

bout time you get chased and bitten by the second pack of lose viscous dogs I'm sure you will be rethinking that whole PETA thing.

[djplonker]

Peta are full of extremists that think every animal should be free even though wild animals have a miserable existence cold hungry and scared 100% of the time!

I suppose you supported their anti-Pokemon campaign aswell or the mario one or when they thought super meat boy was bad?

it just shows they have nothing better to do than draw attention to themselves....

[Majin-vegeta]

Oh ritsuka Happy early Christmas :P.
http://farm6.staticflickr.c...

[theXtReMe1]

I thought it was a great knock against COD. Nothing more. Do you really think that Dice is promoting animal abuse with this? Come on. I am one of the biggest animal lovers in the world. I have pet cats, pet mice and squirrels that come into our house and sit next to us and eat peanuts. We even helped raise 6 baby raccoons, who bring their children by every year, for food.

This video in no way, shape or form promotes animal cruelty. It was just a simple funny jab at their competition and their stupid notion that the dog is a huge step forward in gameplay.. If anything, I would imagine that COD promotes animal cruelty more than dices video does. Using the animals to go in to deadly situations and try to disarm gunman. A situation they wouldn't be in, if it wasn't for us humans. Yet no one from PETA is saying anything about call of duty.

The whole situation is ridiculous.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Clean up your house man.

[GentlemenRUs]

This is funny... Least it's only on the game and not in real life ;)

Suck it milkivision!

[_LarZen_]

People having issues with a soldier defending himself from a attack dog that is trained to kill and no issues with the hundreds of humans they will shoot in the head throughout the game makes me laugh.

[PsylentKiller]

Many people can watch a movie where several people get brutally murdered (Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Rambo, Die Hard, basically any action movie) but find it hard to watch an animal get hurt let alone killed. Animals are defenseless and that's why people take issue with it. Yes, the dog here is trained to kill but not by it's own free will. People trained it to act that way and that's another reason why it's difficult to watch an animal get hurt.

I find the trailer funny for the fact that it clearly takes aim at CoD. But I wince and turn away every time that part of the trailer plays.

[_LarZen_]

" I wince and turn away every time that part of the trailer plays."

I know it's fiction so I have no problem watching it. If it had been a real life video and a real life incident I would not like to see it tho.

But it's computer graphics and its fiction. So no issue or anything from my part..

[PsylentKiller]

For me, I think because the graphics are so good in BF4, it tricks me int thinking its a real dog. That's not a shot at CoD...or is it? Lol

[JRMVN]

Nice move, DICE =)

[BabyTownFrolics]

come on now, are we really trying to turn this into a controversy? It's a f$cking video game, and its not the first time virtual dogs have been virtually injured in a virtual combat situation. Lets get back to talking about whats her names virtual boobs.

[strigoi814]

seriously Activision started this dog attacks..i can remember stabbing it and breaking the neck of the dog

[PsylentKiller]

You're right and many people complaining about this had no problem with the dogs in CoD MP. I did have a problem with it and that's why I never equipped them as a kill streak. I also hated every time I had to kill one. It's like the No Russian level in MW2. I had to do it to continue through the game but I tried my hardest to shoot as few people as possible. The first time through I practically closed my eyes through the whole thing.
The problem comes when people view the victim as defenseless, human or otherwise.

[amnalehu]

Let me get this right... people have not problem with a virtual person getting shot in the face with a virtual gun, but punch a virtual German Shepard in the jaw and everyone loses it...

[FITgamer]

It's a F#@$! video game! Wow people are so pathetic and sad.

[Soupaman66]

Is everybody forgetting that this scene was in the gameplay revealed back in march? Its nothing controversial. is somebody on one side killing another on the other side. Its just strange how people think a its ok for a military trained dog kill an human military trained enemy but not the other way. you value a dog's life more than a man's life. And the whole cod attack thing is just stupid. a lot of military games have killing of military dogs. cod even had exploding dogs and breaking dog's neck in their game and I believe in one of their trailers.

[SharnOfTheDEAD]

So sticking C4 to a dog and blowing it up in COD is acceptable but knocking a dog out is out of order? GTFO

[Shadonic]

Sigh i swear people these days we've been killing DOG's in COD since what MW2 and as soon as battlefield has 1 DOG in it that gets hurt people start some sort of crappy controversy.

[djplonker]

I said that and got 3 disagrees lol

[Shadonic]

welcome to the internets man

[Matt666]

on the ps1 the original Medal of honor you had to kill dogs

[DanielGearSolid]

F****** cry babies

[Skynetone]

know try punching that dog in 1080p

[shaft0140]

The dog was probably freaking attacking him. This is war. He's a soldier. What else are you supposed to do to defend yourself?

[Mikelarry]

give it doggy treats and take it for walkies

[Philaroni]

I remember doing more than just punching dogs in Beyond Two Souls. I mean really, it's not that big of a deal. Fallout let you have a dog as a companion same with Fable I believe. It's nothing new.

[Brazz]

Sure! these bastards punching a "poor dog" in the face is unforgiveble! yeah, continue to shoot people in the head, in the balls, smash the faces, ripoff some necks, it's ok to shown brutal human deaths, but hit a dog! "that is sick"!

for real, if you don't like violence stop whit FPS...

[gedden7]

Yeah umm thats not right... I mean CoD is sh!t but you can't ignore how many people LOVE that game. For whatever reason.

But to make video punching a dog is just too far IMHO..

You know what they say, CONTROVERSY SELLS...

[dcj0524]

When a dog trained to kill come to kill you you should just lay down and die right? Self Defense? Crazy.

[gedden7]

No you miss my point.. For EA to make a trailer about it to get at another company.. I feel as though it's not right. Of course in battle and in everyday life you should defend yourself to no matter who.

[saikorican]

I'd hardly call punching a virtual dog controversy especially when CoD is the first game where I snapped a dog's neck. Have you ever played Black Ops?

[gedden7]

No you miss my point.. For EA to make a trailer about it to get at another company.. I feel as though it's not right.

[secretcode]

So knifing dogs and attaching C4 to dogs in Call of Duty is perfectly acceptable, but the moment someone in a competing game's trailer punches a dog that's trying to maul them everyone loses their goddamn minds.

[hankmoody]

Less attention needs to be paid to this nonsense than to those videos that sick individuals put up of animal abuse. Get to the real problem before you tackle the digital one.

[Rezka]

Poor Riley :(

[Ninjamonkey82]

Lol all this and they play GTA5 and have a good time :). Fcuking idiots. Not even gonna start tell ya the abuse I've laid down on the animals off GTA :D. Its a video game ffs have fun its not real life and it does not reflect anything you do in the real. If you do it in the real you need your head checking.

[KillerPwned]

When their is a real life abortion simulator then call me to the article. This is nothing to be offended about here. Even so very few things in the world offend me personally.

[cactusjack]

EA wont use taliban as a multiplayer faction but you can punch a dog. legs start cutting off limbs off children while were at it.

[cactusjack]

ruh roh

[Hayabusa 117]

Totally ok to chop peoples heads off though. Or shoot them in the eye. They're humans after all, they deserve it! But digital dogs...what have the poor things done to deserve such treatment?

[GirlOnFire]

Poor puppy :( oh screw Call of Duty time for a new yearly game¡¿¡ ^~\\

[KillrateOmega]

Oh, boo hoo they punched a virtual dog. Mutilating human beings is cool, but punching a dog is where we're going to draw the line? GTFO.

Honestly, what are you going to do? Let the dog just kill you, because you're scared of hurting it? No. In a life or death situation, you punch the **** out of that dog and move on.

For God's sake, in CoD you snap dogs necks in a close-up view. You get to see the disgustingly rent neck and the sound of the neck snapping.

[Akira2020]

Well, at least DICE cut out the scene where the soldiers are smacking fish.......smart fish.

[oIITSBIIo]

I will kill every fucking dog with a big smile in my face .

[SITH]

With explosives. In game of course.

[SITH]

If a picture of a dog getting nailed by a fists upsets you, then you need to stay in the bubble of security that is your momma's arms. Reality has 100% more harsh things going on. It is not that serious. Quit being a bunch of puss!

[ElementX]

A lot of games have featured attack dogs that can be killed

[DomceM]

my only question is... why didnt he punch harder?

[Grimhammer00]

When I was 14 me and a buddy were stealing apples per norm from a local or hard. That farmer knew we did it. He'd yell at us and threaten us in town. We were punks. We'd laugh and do it anyways.

One day we must've broke his will - he sicked his 2 German shepards on us! We ran and ran....the distance to the property line was like an invisible pritection (which sounds silly but we were desperate and full of fear)......

I made it. My buddy didn't. The one dog grabbed him by the leg. My buddy was hopped up on adrenalin & was big guy for 15. He socked the dog as hard as any punch I've ever seen in real life! Right on the nose. Not only did the dog go down....killed it instantly! Boom! Over. The other dog actually whelped and ran back to the Farmer!

I helped my buddy - parents called cops. Farmer got charged. We got slaps. And his remaining dog was relocated.

Just felt like sharing. :)

[FreakdoutKid]

nice story retard

[Lockon]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

:D

[quenomamen]

How dare they have dogs being harmed in a game about shooting people left and right, aircraft carriers being split in two and who know how many drowning. How dare they !

[FreakdoutKid]

cheap move by EA i would say

[thejigisup]

Old yeller got what he deserved.