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GDEX REPORT: Pokemon Battles for Position While the Wii U Surpasses Sony's PS4

Another week, another opportunity to evaluate the state of social hype as we pick apart the GDEX to see which movers and shakers are making the most noise. The Pokemon crowd is collectively keeping their favorite franchise towards the top of the pack while GTA V's biggest competition is finally starting to fade. So, get your thumbs ready for some social reaction as we share this week's numerical notes courtesy of the GDEX.

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Kingthrash3603833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

lol gtfo. wiiu had a year by itself while ps4/x1 hasnt even released...lol going by the bs fanboy war? lol ok guy ill sit and watch ps4 followed by x1 surpass wiiu sales in a couple months...if not by christmas. lol funny article.

awesomeabe19983833d ago

Woah fanboy much? You want to hear my predictions on short term (by end of 2013)

PS4: 2 Million units
XB1: Around 1.5 Million Units
Wii U: 6 to 10 Million Units

Wii U has more 1080p 60 FPS games. It has more must have games coming out. It is only $300 for the console and a game.

PS4 and XB1 have better graphics and awesome shooters. Great Apps, too. PS4 is $400 and XB1 is $500 console only. It stops there.

Wii U is more affordable, has a hardcore game library along with family friendly games. It also has great multiplayer games. Nintendo is the best gaming company. Microsoft has an all out entertainment system and Sony has a good gaming and social system.

ThatCanadianGuy5143833d ago

You're smoking some seriously good stuff my friend.

Wow.

awesomeabe19983833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

@DayZ

Is that in a good way?

If you disagree that is your opinion which i respect.

Will you please bubble me up to continue this convo with you guys?

LOL_WUT3833d ago

Didn't Nintendo at one point had to cut their hardware sales forecast? ;)

I'd love to see them reach those 10 million units but the way things have been going for them proves it's nothing but wishful thinking. The nice little boost they got recently proves this, while the percentage number went up the exact number of consoles sold wasn't all that impressive.

You're kidding yourself if you think the PS4 or the X1 are only going to do 2 million by the end of 2013. ;)

awesomeabe19983833d ago

@LOL_WUT

I have seen your comments before so im not surprised. The coming generation wont be like the present generation. PS4 is 3 million max.

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Eonjay3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Are you predicting that the Wii U will double or triple its lifetime sales in the next two months? You are expecting the Wii U to sell more than the PS4 and Xbox One, combined? I question your logic.

Half-Mafia3833d ago

@awesomeabe1998 NEVER invest in any company, you will lose alot of money.

zeal0us3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

LMAO this is the second time I heard a statement like this.

First time: http://i.imgur.com/v7f8CR8....
http://kotaku.com/buy-a-wii...

tetsuhana3833d ago

Dude PS4 is probably past 1.5 million in preorders alone. C'mon son.

ZHZ903833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

@awesomeabe1998,
PS4 and X1 aren't even out yet, the only slight advantege for Wii U is just came out a year ago.

Can't wait to see what will happen to Wii U after release of PS4 and X1.

Oh btw PS4 has already surpassed 1 million preorders and it has alot of demands andn it's the most talked console compared to other two.

AbortMission3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Please. Stop. For you and the Wii u fanboy's sake.

How many times have you drones opened your mouths only to be hilariously owned months later?

"Wii u will have the definitive version of all your favorite games!"

"PS4 will not be much stronger than the PS3 and appeal to casuals!"

"Pikmin 3/W101 will be a system seller!"

You're setting yourself for a slap to the face, really. (Not that you don't need it)

christrules00413833d ago

The Wii U isn't going to sell 6 to 10 million by the end of the year. Nintendo had Wii Sports and it was a system seller. Everyone wanted to try out Wii Sports and you needed a Wii. The Wii U doesn't have a system seller. For the Xbox One people are looking forward to Dead Rising 3, Ryse : Son of Rome or Titanfall. For the PS4 they are looking forward to Killzone shadowfall, The Order : 1886. That compared to Luigi or Donkey Kong? Xbox One and PS4 will sell a crap load more then the Wii U.

With me I would buy all 3 but I don't got the time for it. The Wii U is on the low end of the toadem pole.

thejigisup3833d ago

The wii u pales in comparison to the ps4 and xb1 the casuals are gonna be blinded by visuals, the "hard-core" gamers are in a loyalty battle and are probably already locked in, and the media buffs are going to be astounded by the new capabilities and potential for 4k. Ninty is really gonna have to do something to stand out more.... although imma probably buy a wii u just for smash bros. Your numbers are crazy. Systems are selling out like never before, the greater gaming community is more aware of these systems and we are spending more money than ever on technology. The first thing you say is fanboy much? and then you say things like best gaming company and it has more must have games? That... that right there... no just no.

stuna13833d ago

Ha ha ha, here I was thinking that the Nintendo fanboy was a dying breed, and here you come to resurrect that myth!

Your fanboy goggles have to be about as thick as old coke bottle bottoms.

Here my prediction! The WII U will more than likely sell less than all the next gen consoles, it definitely won't sell 10 million, and that my friend you can take to the bank.

awesomeabe_19983833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Its just my prediction, but I will adjust it due to the statements that you guys offered.

PS4: 4 million
XB1: 3.5 million
Wii U: Around 6-8 million

So?

Oh and im not a fanboy. I have a PS3, Sony Vaio and Sony TV, but the PS4 does not interest me in any way.Its the same as PS3 just better graphics.

My opinion.

fsfsxii3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

I never laughed so hard in my life.
Lopez_josue would be proud of you.

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awesomeabe_19983833d ago

I love that so many people disagree. You guys do know that the PS4 wont come to Japan until 2014? You do know that Wii U has more 1080p 60fps games than the other two? You do know Wii U costs less? You do know Nintendo consoles have a more diversity of games? You guys act like its Wii vs PS360.

ShinMaster3833d ago

"""It has more must have games coming out""

You mean like Nintendo's legendary IP, Zelda?
The last game, Skyward Sword, on the Wii, a system with a 90+ million install base couldn't even outsell any of the three Uncharted games, or GOWIII or GT5 or LBP and other third party games on the PS3 with a lower 70+ million units as well as 360 games.

""Wii U: 6 to 10 Million Units""

LOL you're saying the Wii U will triple its lifetime sales in 2 months during the launch of both the PS4 and XBO?

You think Wii U having 1080p@60fps games means visual fidelity parity? Wii U didn't have meany 1080p games at launch. Not even Nintendo's own Mario game was 1080p.

""Wii U is more affordable, has a hardcore game library""
After over 1 year, I'd hope so. However, it's not there yet.

You sir, need to quit drugs.

awesomeabe_19983833d ago

@ShinMaster

I dont think you understood what I typed. There will be 6 to 10 million Wii U 's by 2014 meaning Nintendo will sell 2 to 6 million Wii U's this holiday.

Well you fanboys said that PS4 and XB1 can handle 1080p and 60fps easily while Wii U had to be tweaked. Im saying this to prove you people wrong.

I dont see many games on PS4 that are must have imo. Ive played Killzone before and I didnt like it. Never played Uncharted. We have Bayonetta instead of GOW. I loved GT....... on the PS2. We have Project Cars.

No Hardcore Games? Hardcore games arent just shooters. I doubt you can master a Mario game. If you can I will be proven wrong. Mario is easy to play, hard to master. Same goes for Pokemon Zelda DK SSB and MK8.

Wii U has little third party support, but all the suppot it needs is FPS games like CoD and Action games.

Bubble me up to continue the convo.

kwandar3833d ago

I think you will see a sales drop-off for PS4 and Xbox1 in January, as systems are returned by those trying to make a fast buck from Xmas consumers.

As for asusomaeabe1998's predictions, they actually are likely to be close (at the bottom end for the Wii U), as Wii U is starting with a base of 4MM - and with Wii Fit U coming out, lower price, more software, Nintendo are going to take their fair share of holiday sales.

Hicken3833d ago

Short version:

Your prediction is crap.

Brazz3833d ago

WiiU 10 million!? no way in hell, 6 milion is ok, maybe 7 milion, but that is it.

Ps4 already have like 1.5 milion pre-orders, so... are you say that they will make holiday season with only 500,000 units? do not play boy, they will hit at least 3-4 million. now the X1, I do not know, depending on the production of microsoft, 2-3 million ...
long term (2014 and early 2015)> Wii U will get 10 milion, in the end of 2014, and ps4 will surpass at the end of 2014. X1 will have very close numbers, but will have to wait util late 2015 to surpass WIIU.

EliteGameKnight3833d ago

Interesting thing about looking into the future, It typically is always drowned in personal preference and desire. I believe that it is far to early to make a sales call.

Though the PS4 and XBox One have quite an impressive number of preorders, there is no telling if the demand may drop off a cliff due to lack of console units similar to what befell the Wii U 3 months after its initially launch, or if it will stay stable. The consumer base is a very fickle thing after all.

There is also the possibility that the Wii U will turn around this holiday season, "Pulling a 3DS" if you will, with the games releasing in the coming months. I have no idea if it will, it may very well not, but the chance is still there.

If the PS4 and Xbox One do fall into a drought similar to what the Wii U went through, because lets be honest most console launches don't go according to plan, and the Wii U did pick back up, then awesomeabe1998's prediction may be possible. It is very very unlikely but just like anything, it is possible.

VINNIEPAZ3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

@awesomeabe1998

"Will you please bubble me up to continue this convo with you guys?"

LMMFAO You MUST be new to this site, there is NO "convo" on N4G if your opinion isn't 100 percent pro Sony. Please don't even try, it wont work, believe me.

zero_gamer3833d ago

Wii U is awesome and has a lot of potential, but Nintendo = best gaming company is entirely opinion. Nintendo makes just as many business mistakes as Sony if not more.

Ezz20133833d ago

where are you getting those numbers from ?!

d3nworth13833d ago

The Wii U has mostly current gen games 1080p 60fps. Games that are no where near as complex as games on the PS4 and XB1. Games that have less geometry, particle effect, characters on screen and lighting effects. The games that the PS4 and XB1 run at 1080p 60fps wouldn't run on a Wii U period. Your sale prediction didn't include how long the consoles were out. Let me help you with that.

PS4: 2 Million units in 2 months
XB1: 1.5 Million units in 2 months
Wii U: 6 to 10 Million in a 12 months

Do the math both the PS4 and Xb1 would have outsold the Wii U in the same time frame.

Ezz20133833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

@justafan
""The real battle will be between xbox one and ps4
with xbox one selling more units overtime because of tv intergration in the end. ""

where did you get that xbox1 is selling more than ps4 ?!
ps4 so far have been beating the hell out of xbox in both hardware/software preorders

madjedi3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

@abe "Wii U is more affordable(ps3/360 is cheaper still), has a hardcore game library along with family friendly games(again see ps3/360). It also has great multiplayer games.(ps3/360 haven't disappeared yet).

You have the gall to call another person a fanboy after that blowjob post wow.

The only thing worse than a fanboy is a two faced hypocritical one that pretends to be a neutral gamer.

1080p and 60 fps means jackshit without taking into account how taxing the game is or how highly detailed the world/characters are.

My fat ps3 played my ps2 games in 1080p, still didn't stop the games from looking like shit on my 1080p tv.

So who is going to buy a wii u over a ps4 or a xbone, the casual buyer they will snatch up ps3/360's for 8 yrs worth of mp and exclusives game.

The non-nintendo hardcore console gamer will be likely be buying a ps4 or xbone, this holiday, the ps3/360 are old and obsolete. For non-nintendo gamers the wii u belongs in the ps3/360 gen and not the ps4/xbone gen.

"Nintendo is the best gaming company." For die-hard nintendo fans i agree for everyone else lmao. But your not a fanboy, right.

Dunban673832d ago

so you think the wii u will sell between 1 million to 2 million units per month starting now in October thru this December

how many have been sold this far in October? Prob not much more than 100,000

thomasmiller3832d ago

great comment , notice how the blind and stupid trolls don't even realize what you are saying is going to be true, but what ever helps the losers sleep at night!! they are going to be in for a big shock on how little the ps4 and x box one sell, they have no big games for this holiday, and Nintendo has Mario 3d!!! the morons just never learn!

Amsterdamsters3832d ago

To all of you who are bragging about the number of PS4 pre-orders there are, I don't think they are as high as you think. Also, I only know a couple people with one on pre-order, and they are planning on selling theirs to try and make a few bucks off them. I'm sure a large percent of the pre-ordered systems will end up on eBay and Craig's List.

brewin3832d ago

I think more people will agree with your statement if Nintendo wpuld just blow everyone away with a crazy next gen looking Zelda Wii U reveal.

elmaton983832d ago (Edited 3832d ago )

Well I'll be buying a wiiu at one point or another for mario alone since I grew up with it but in all honesty, the wiiu isn't looking too hot right now specially when the ps4 and xbone are coming out in less than a month.

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weekev153833d ago

The article isnt saying WiiiU will outsell the other 2. They analyse social media and give points to each system/game based on mentions. So it could be "better pack up my wiiu so I can use it to pay off my ps4" and both will get a point. I have to say its still surprising that more people are talkin bout wiiu though.

CAB1802theWiiUdefend3833d ago

Why do you think the PS4 and Xbox One will outsell the Wii U
There is no way that the Xbox One is going to outsell the Wii U
And The PS4 and Wii U have a 50% chance that they are going to outsell each other

Fanboyssuck273833d ago

butt hurt ps fanboys, you gotta laugh at them. loooool
When ps doesn't sell as much as they assume that it will I will be lmao as it means soooo much to them. lol smh

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PositiveEmotions3833d ago

PS4 sold over a million units and Xbox one 7,000 units and there not even out yet now just imagine how many PS4s and Xbox Ones will be sold at retailers.

Also PS4 and Xbox One broke the sales record and again the next gen consples arent arent even out yet.

So this article is a little silly to me imo.

Amsterdamsters3832d ago

"PS4 sold over a million units and Xbox One 7,000"...pull numbers out of the air much? No one is going to take anything you say seriously with a quote like that.

PositiveEmotions3832d ago

Is the truth tho look it up.

elmaton983832d ago (Edited 3832d ago )

Well judging by pre-orders yes you're right but still, I can't wait to hold my ps4 on my hand.

majiebeast3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

Gdex is so completely flawed. I dont know why GT uses it.

It works on tweets can you imagine if it worked on Youtube comments then the N word would be the number 1 game.

Concertoine3833d ago

the ps4 and xbox one wont beat the wii u by christmas, but they easily surpass it by the end of 2014

Eonjay3833d ago

Nintendo is predicting sales of 9 million by 3/31/2014. Sony is predicting 5 million by 3/31/2014. Microsoft is keeping its mouth shut.

Current Standings:
Wii U: 3.8 million
PS4: 0 (duh with 1 million+ preorders)
Xbox One: 0 (duh with at predicted preorders at 600-700k)

Concertoine3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

yeah i know, even their 3ds sales are over optimistic and thats the best selling console out right now. they were hoping for 45 million 3ds's and im not even sure if they have 40 yet. their sales projections are always just ridiculous.
as for 5 million ps4s by FY 2014, i dont know about that either. i would predict a bit less than 4 million, theres just a lot of competition with xbox one and it's having a late arrival in japan too.

Concertoine3833d ago (Edited 3833d ago )

@disagrees
do you people honestly think they'll sell 5 million consoles in 4 months, with it not coming out til feb. 14th in japan?! historically last gen outsells current gen for quite some time, so the 360 and ps3 would be selling more. this would beat wii records, a system that had a strangle hold on the 2007-2008 sales partly because it was half the price of the competition. ps4 will sell the most but the xbox fanbase is still big enough to compete. as for the wii u, still a big question mark, to me at least.

AbortMission3833d ago

It's Nintendo fanboys. You honestly expect to reason with them? Lol

Concertoine3832d ago

im referring to the ps4 outselling the wii u (around 4 million units) by christmas which is ridiculous. 5 million by march is at least possible but even sony arent predicting to outsell the wii u by christmas.
but yeah nintendo fanboys are still a pain in the ass, as are all fanboys lol....

strigoi8143833d ago

lolz GDeX is a complete joke! only lame people pay attention to that crap

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The Best Games Similar to Pokemon for PlayStation

There are many worlds out there brimming with wondrous creatures ready to help you on your adventure beyond Pokemon.

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LG_Fox_Brazil26d ago

Temtem is actually really good as a single player experience or as a co-op game. Played the shit out of it when it released

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Pokemon Doesn't Need to Sue Palworld, It Needs to Get With the Times

The Nerd Stash: "There's been a lot of talk about Pokemon and Palworld recently, but if anything, Pokemon's new competition should be a sign to change."

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ChasterMies78d ago

Fortunately for Nintendo, the legal team is separate from Game Freak’s development team.

NotoriousWhiz77d ago

Unfortunately for us, as their legal team seems to be more competent than Game Freak's development team.

gold_drake78d ago (Edited 78d ago )

they do tho .. IF there is something to sue for. IP infringement is such a delicate thing.

but absolutely agree on the change

GoodGuy0978d ago

That, have longer dev time, and absolutely get rid of Nintendo as the exclusive platform. Imagine a AAA pkmn game on current consoles or next generation.

But money, they'll make billions with little effort.

badz14978d ago

you know that's never gonna happen

FinalFantasyFanatic77d ago

Gamer Freak, Creatures and Nintendo all have a stake in the Pokemon franchise, Nintendo especially will never let them go, I don't know how Creatures or Game Freak feels about it. Plus, the other two don't have a financial incentive to ditch Nintendo, they make mega bucks regardless. Although I think Nintendo should help Game Freak out more since they're clearly struggling, other they'll all just have to accept longer dev times and bigger gaps between games, or maybe just make some cheaper low-tier games in-between.

shinoff218378d ago

Idk yall. I'd take a Pokémon jrpg over a Pokémon with guns, online play etc. Plus wasn't Pokémon mobile pretty fking big like 4 years ago then covid hit.

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Even Scarlet/Violet had sold 24million as of early November (and undoubtedly sold even more during the Holidays), its not like they are currently suffering.

Yes, there are plenty of things I would like Gamefreak to do better, and yes I happened to like Palworld, but not because its a Pokemon clone, because its not, but because its a good survival game, something that I have zero interest for the mainline Pokemon games to become.

Most publications keep bringing up these topic ls just for clicks, because clearly the game is your typical survival game (most who do well on PC) with some Pokemon sprinkled in and not a Pokemon competitor, the core gameplay loop is clearly just Ark with dinosaurs swapped for Pokemon like creatures

And again, while I’m enjoying the game itself, I hope it doesnt set a new precedent for what we expect from game devs these days because, based on their other games, this developer really seems to basically just try to go as close as possible to ripping off other games without getting into trouble and then not really following up on those projects as promised (Craftopia players seem particularly angry).

I doubt they ever expected the discourse around this game to reach this level of popularity to push those insane sales numbers, and they actually take the opportunity to increase the quality of their work

FinalFantasyFanatic77d ago (Edited 77d ago )

I'm going to say something somewhat controversial, the last set of Pokemon games weren't that bad, it wasn't a great game, but a good game if we ignore the performance issues (and I personally didn't have many bugs).

They just need more interesting towns and NPCs (give them interesting dialogue, there's literally no reasons to talk to NPCs), interesting areas/locations (like the sunken ship and Bellsprout Tower), and some decent side quest, there isn't really any interesting side quests in those games, and fix the barely there lore for the game (Idk even know what was going on with those 4 "legendary Pokemon"). And maybe add less new Pokemon into the next game so they can transition more of the older Pokemon into 3D.

I think Scarlet/Violet had the potential to go from a good game to a great game if they implemented most of those ideas, but they also needed more development time to optimise the game as well.

Profchaos77d ago

Yeah agree id take a remake of red in the style of the links awakening remake any day of the week

Profchaos77d ago

No they don't I don't want any of the gameplay anywhere near Pokemon the only link between them is the idea of Pokemon except there's guns you enslave humans and Pokemon and there's a survival aspect.

Pokemon is fairly family friendly can't see Nintendo going ok let's give them m16s and slaughter each other

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