DICE Considered Delaying PS4/Xbox One Versions of Battlefield 4

DICE:
We’ve been very aggressive with Battlefield 4 in that we want to be out at launch with the next gen consoles. I think people might not grasp how hard that is, to develop a game at the same time as the hardware. We’ve been struggling quite a lot to keep up with the changes we’ve seen – both sides need to adapt and you end up being late. Everything is very complicated. Battlefield itself is a really complicated game, so it doesn’t make our lives any easier.

[black0o]

i think we should thx activation ..

[GTgamer]

U mean Activision?

[DarkBlood]

theres no wrong spelling when it come to that company lol

[lsujester]

Could be, or could simply be that they have to make versions on consoles that have finalized their specs less than a year ago. I imagine it was a lot of work, even if the PS4 is easier to program for. I'm a bit worried that there won't be a beta for those versions. Day Oners might have to be the guinea pigs to a certain degree.

As for Watch Dogs, I could honestly see Ubi delaying it so it doesn't interfere with ACIV sales. I personally was going to buy Watch Dogs at launch, but with the delay, I might become a pirate instead.

But in the end, who really knows but them?

[Legion21]

@newmonday I like how you come up with these theories out of nowhere. Having one map/level running doesn't mean the game as a whole is running perfectly. And Ubisoft already said they're delaying Watch Dogs to make sure it's the best game they could possibly make so it can reach its sale target.

[NewMonday]

@Legion21

the XB1 development kit issues are the talk of the gaming community, even Crytech admit it.

and proof is in the pudding, almost all 3rd party launch games are demoed on the PS4 and just 1 or 2 on the XBone and only recently.

[falviousuk]

I see the tin foil hat brigade are out and about

[ZodTheRipper]

@newmonday: lol right :D

I guess I really have to skip BF4 then - I don't want a rushed port and KZ:SF is enough FPS for me. I also dislike the business model DICE started with BF3 on consoles ...too many mappacks & annoying private servers just ruin it for me ...even if the game itself looks good.

[Legion21]

@newmonday they're actually mostly demoed on PC, because PC obviously is the strongest of the 3. I'm not saying the xbox one didn't give them problem but like they said it's hard developing for a console that's still in development, both the xbox one and ps4 were changing over the years. If the PS4 version was fine then they could just delay the xbox one version.

[memots]

Please don't delay it because of one console.

[NewMonday]

@Legion21

no multiplatform game will get delayed for the XB1, especially a game with exclusive marketing.

and sure BF is a big "PC first" franchise, I kinda wish the main game stays for the PC and give consoles Bad Company.

[nukeitall]

@mondy:

That is funny, I recently heard rumor of a game called Driveclub being delayed. It was only 40% finished at E3 this year.

Maybe that was the Xbox One fault too?

edit: Driveclub being delayed is NO LONGER A RUMOR and CONFIRMED TRUE:

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Must be that Xbox One!

[NewMonday]

@nukeitall

the problem with DC is the game code, Evloution are making a game different from MotorStorm and are starting from the ground up.

the XBone problem is from the console API that is giving everyone a bad time, even 1st party developers.

so if you have no idea about the difference then that is bad, if you do know and your just trying to spin then that is even worse.

[Saviour]

@newmonday - really? if that's xbox causing problem why is Driver club whichis exclusive got delayed??? And why Ryse,Forza DR3 all coming on launch since they are xbox exclusive? And to clear ur fanboy comment about Crytek admitting the code issues, its because ryse was xbox 360 game so they have to rewrite it for xbox one since both are different. It'snot that xbox one has any problem it was because ryse was transfering to xbox one from xbox 360. lol just read the article and the reasons are obvious its not xbox/ps4. luckily its not delayed!

[BigShotSmoov007]

Newmonday-unless you have proof of what you speak, then it will only and should be classified as fanboy rhetoric. I guess it's just hard for you to comprehend that it is hard to develope and finalize a game for a console or consoles that don't have final specs yet. I guess you being a game developer, "or lack there of" can't wrap your mind around that. Show us a quote somewhere, anywhere that Ubi blamed the xbox for the delay, take your time I'll wait. Fact is I knew this was going to happen with some games cause these are consoles that aren't out yet. Drive Club got delayed also, I guess the Xbox has something to do with that also huh? Try and spin that delay on MS also.

If the XBO was the problem and causing problems because of their, "development kits" like you said, how come Assassins Creed 4 still coming out? Maybe, just maybe and brace yourself, it had something to do with the game itself and nothing to do with the XBO or MS, blows your mind doesn't it.

[BX81]

@newmonday Lol. I see some of us are still at it. The dev team is causing the development problem. It's their job to develop for that console if they want to. Like he said they had hurdles with both consoles to overcome and they did. This is what happens when you have new consoles coming out. If you would like, I can show you to the new kick ass Ryse trailer so you can full fill your desperate need to keep the Xbox One coming out of your mouth.

:0 <====XBOX ONE=====

[NewMonday]

@BigShotSmoov007

"sources from two very large global publishers (one French and one American) emphasize meet current problems with the drivers for the next gen console from Microsoft"

Ubisoft is the big french publisher

http://translate.google.com... http://www.gameblog.fr/news...

queue another round of denial

[humbleopinion]

Tinfoils indeed...

There are zero games delayed on the Xbox one, be it games coming from first party or third party. Yet somehow Playstation 4 exclusive games are being delayed and the fanboys blame Xbox devkits.

If Xbox One devkit experience is so bad, I would have expected to see more Xbox one launch title games being delayed from their original announcements. But it seems to strike harder at PS4 exclusive - with games like Driveclub announcing delays less than one month from launch.

[NewMonday]

@humbleopinion

Because Sony know they have a tough crowd that don't buy shovelware like the XB1 launch linup.

[BigShotSmoov007]

newmonday

I take your article says absolutely nothing about watchdogs and give you this article

http://blog.ubi.com/watch-d...

Along with this

http://www.businessweek.com...

There can be a few reasons why watch dogs was delayed and none of them has to do with XBO, "dev kits" as you put it. Why delay the game for everyone if it's the, "XBO dev kit" thats the problem. Why delay it for current gen including the 360/PS3 when they have nothing to do with next gen. With GTA V out they don't want to compete with them right now especially with people still playing GTA online in the millions. They don't want to compete with COD, Battlefield the as far as sales cause chances are they would be in a distant 4th place cause GTA is still going to be selling will into the holiday season, hell them may not sell more than Batman. Makes perfect sense to delay the game to put a little more polish on it for ALL systems plus they wouldn't have to compete with any other game at that point so they can maximize there sales with no real competition. Plus the fact that it's a new IP they really didn't have much of a chance to sell well with the likes of the other games I just mentioned seeing that everyone is going to pick those games mostly this holiday rather than pickup up Watch dogs. This isn't the first time a game was delayed for this reason and won't be the last. It's very smart for them to delay the game for this reason and has nothing to do with the, "XBO dev kit" that you just made up and threw out there cause of your fanboy thinking. Plus you made it clear of your intention by saying sony doesn't sell, "shovelware" like MS does? C'mon son.....Ryse is shovelware? You call Dead Rising 3, Killer Instint, Crimson Dragon, Forza 5 shovelware? What is the definition of shovelware, wouldn't all those indie games that Sony selling shovelware? What about Knack, wouldn't that be shovelware? It's fanboys like you that makes this website amusing and entertaining but also for very sad at the same time.

[webeblazing]

How does this dude have all these bubz

[NewMonday]

@BigShotSmoov007

it should be obvious no publisher will openly say anything negative about any console and will put together "politically correct" statements.

I gave you a source of information that IMOO fills in the blanks, information combined with other facts like majority of 3rd party games demoed on the PS4 only(the most telling is BF4 first on the PS4 despite exclusive marketing with MS), and thus I came to a conclusion that a majority of the gaming community share, and like anyone here I discuss my opinion in the open comment section, some disagree with most launching a personal attack.

[VENOMACR1227]

@newmonday

LOL PS fanboy much? You have zero proof, yet it's obvious that it's the X1's fault. Did EA tell you directly it was X1's fault? I read a lot of stupid comments on here, yours is now #1 for stupidity, congrats.

I'm sure the X1 was the reason the government shut down too and there is war in the middle east. X1 = root of all evil. PS4 = double rainbows and unicorns.

[FlyShootRaceSims]

@ Newsmonday: isn't trolling very taxing or you're just natural at it? You either need to stfu or gtfo already, it'll make this site a little more tolerable. Please.

[humbleopinion]

@newmonday, apparently not only do they buy shovelware, but they are also praise them and blame the competition for the games being delayed.

Both sides have their own share of ridiculous fanboys, but you my friend are a new breed.

[badboy776]

GTA V PS4 Confirmed!

[aNDROiD17_]

what??

[RBlue_Desire]

Is this the new Half Life 3 confirmed?...oh god what i have said.

[Deadpoolio]

I can't wait till it doesn't come out.....Rockstar has said like 15 times now NO NEXT GEN VERSIONS...NOBODY who is secretly doing something comes out that quick with a response, yet they ummm ummm about the PC version

[Magicite]

First Watch Dogs, now BF4. If there will be any more delayed games, we might just have no launch games for X1/PS4! /s

[RegorL]

You need to read the title and the article again...
"considerED" not "considers"

[Haules]

I don't think so. Maybe it has something to do with game to run better on both consoles.

[BallsEye]

No problem, will be playing the crap out of Ryse, Forza and DR3 on launch. I can wait a bit for bf4.

[HugoDrax]

@newmonday
"obviously it is the XB1 version causing the development problems, the PS4 version was up and running since gamescom,"

Is that so? Explain this public competition on November 1st? Since you say it's obviously XB1 holding things back, yet not a single XB1 game has been delayed.

http://youtu.be/_qpvcSqegvc

[StoutBEER]

Newmonday, get a life.

[EcoSos3]

Hey where I work we're printing the flyer for GameStop's blackfriday it has battlefield 4 for ps3 and 360 for $29.99 Friday only lol.

[El_Colombiano]

Pics?

[EcoSos3]

Soon I still have 4 more hours of work.

[WeAreLegion]

What else ya got on there?

[EcoSos3]

Assassin creed 4 for ps3 for $39.99

[obelix01]

That's a crazy day. You have to prepare yourself for the hell that's Black Friday. Its deals like the one you mentioned that causes people to absolutely loose it.

[Magicite]

Care to share? :P

[nevin1]

The beta sucks.

[Majin-vegeta]

No shart shirlock hence the reason it's a "BETA".Still dont know how people cant get this through their thick skulls.

[RickHiggity]

They think it's a fancy word for demo. The sentence I've always hated is "I'm not impressed with the beta" No fucking shit you aren't. The only reason you're playing the damn thing is to make sure things are working properly.

[annus]

Beta is the final stage of development, which is mainly polishing. It is mainly designed for stress testing, fix major balance issues and find any major bugs before release. There is usually only minor changes to graphics and gameplay, so it's usually pretty safe to say that if the beta sucks the game will suck.

I've beta tested so many games, and almost none of them have any noticeable change in the final release, apart from games that do rolling releases from beta.

[Beastforlifenoob]

Everyone hated the shits out of battlefield 3 beta.. Game was good was it not?

[Drewminati]

go ahead,, i'll have enough to play on nov22

[adventureghost124]

And I'll have even more on 15th :)

[ape007]

i hope they delay it to optimization it better

[bigboirock]

and to add a hardcore mode

[Allsystemgamer]

There is a hardcore mode dude....

[Mega24]

What's with the misinformed people these days, you got to do research before running you mouth on a matter you don't know, BF4 will have HC mode just as BF3, BC2, BF2, BF1942, BF2142, and Vietnam Had...

[bigboirock]

i cant find it then ill just look harder.i just bought the game for my lil bro bday we most play cod in my house just wanted to try it befor i bought bf4

[ape007]

optimize*

[Beastforlifenoob]

You can just "edit" the comment, this may seem like a foreign concept but you can change something on the internet no need to repost a comment.

[Haules]

Maybe they will fix their probs. Cause the beta had plenty...

[LEOPARD1030]

Watch Dogs, Driveclub and now Battlefield....another that bites dust :/

Not only MS was improvising.

[Chris12]

Admit it, you didn't bother reading it did you?

[4logpc]

It says considered, as in not any more.

Chris beat me by 30 seconds.

[CGI-Quality]

Funny, only one of those games is ACTUALLY delayed. Seems research failed you all around (or you failed it) - take your pick.

OT: Looks like they figured things out.

[TheEvilWithin]

Three games have been delayed. Drive Club, Watch Dogs and The Crew all pushed to 2014. Looks like research failed you or you failed to research ;)

[LEOPARD1030]

Sure Driveclub is now delayed. LOL take that !

http://n4g.com/news/1375891...

[CGI-Quality]

@ LEOPARD: Um, you linked me to a failed article that makes no mention of DriveClub being delayed. Good job.

[Deadpoolio]

Ummmmm do you believe everything you read because Sony already said that the rumor about driveclub was false...This also said CONSIDERED not ARE

[Mega24]

BF4 is not being delayed, was "considered", as for Drive Club, is just a rumor for now, and what does Microsoft has to do with this....

[NoLongerHereCBA]

Driveclub is now really delayed. Sucks for PS4 gamers that were getting the bundle/looking forward to play it through PS+.

Possibly not as terrible as Watch Dogs though, since Sony had been showing commercials for quite some time now on TV.

[Saviour]

DC is delayed its confirmed by sony and evolution.

[BigShotSmoov007]

Fanboys will blame MS and Xbox for any evil doing in the world of gaming. Drive Club was delayed because of MS, Watchdogs was delayed because of MS and the government shut down was caused because of MS.

[Mega24]

@Saviour

Can you link me to this statement?

Edit* I found the news now, damn why did this happened, I was looking forward for this gen racing games, Forza, NFS rivals, DC, and Project Cars. :(

[lobocob]

if this game is as good as it looks it's going to be one hell of an accomplishment. and i'm sure they considered delaying them until ea was like "yeah, that's really not up to you"

[yarbie1000]

"We can see that a lot of the next gen games coming are, arguably, lesser when it comes to the scope of features because of this problem."

Sounds like its gonna be a few months before all the kinks are worked out still on both sides.

[nevin1]

@majin and rick

I played some betas that was fun. So how do you respond to that?

And at the end of day, a beta gives people a taste of the game and test out the servers. I also thought developers used feedback?

[Dark_king]

I rather enjoyed the LBP2 beta the MAG beta and many others but ive seen beta's that couldn't run for five minutes and the game came and was great.An then the reverse of that beta's like Socom Con ran like crap and then the game did to when released for a year.

[EastBayPunk]

I'll be getting both and probably loving both *gasp*

[lobocob]

i'm contacting my congressman and demanding this be outlawed immediately.

[alexkoepp]

Well maybe you wouldn't have had these problems if you would have dropped the last gen console versions... can I get a copy for my N64 too please?

[chazjamie]

i love it when people complain about how difficult their jobs are. ffs!!

[WarThunder]

Hmmm 2 delay announcements

[Soldierone]

DO IT! That way I can downgrade my bundle haha

[My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante]

Xbox One has so many games that even if games get delayed they still have a better launch lineup than the PS4.

[jrbeerman11]

I dont think its trolling to like xbones launch lineup better, especially after driveclub delay. But i dont think its enough to switch over to xbone (if only buying 1) imo.

Sony just has too many great developers to ignore. Im still skeptic on how much m$ will focus on kinect over hardcore. Hope im wrong but m$ lost its best exclusives and focused on kinect second half od 360s life.

But the end of the day, dead rising will release on ps3, titanfall is on pc, and xbox will have halo, gears, forza, and 1 or two quantum break games.

[ZHZ90]

Well Said.

[DistroyerOfFanbums]

Hear some fans say that the x1 is the reason for the delays, could it be that these developers like Ubisoft/EA are being over worked? You have BF4 and Watch Dogs being developed for Xbox 360, wii u(watch dogs) PS3, PC, PS4, and X1.. Ubisoft developing Assasins Creed at the same time and EA developing Need For Speed at the same time( different teams but same company budgets)

[BigShotSmoov007]

Not only that, with Sony investing so much money into that game cause they are investing in the Watch Dogs Movie and with exclusive content thats coming to the game, I would love to be in that meeting where Yves Guillemot tells Sony, "Hey look, we have to delay Watch Dogs on your console cause we can't figure out how to get it to work on the XBO console and dev kit". That would be the meaning of the word priceless.

[Tru_Blu]

If it's like the beta they better delay it. That was a mess of a game and I'm a BF fanboy.

[heliumhead2030]

@newmonday dude you are such an idiot troll it is not funny. You don't know what you are talking Bout ps4 games getting delayed left and right but you still troll. Do something else dude.you probably can't even afford to get a ps4 a launch

[Jamaicangmr]

Oh i hope they don't but atleast with shooters i got KZ:SF as well but Drive Club delay really sucks.

[Tzuno]

they need to add booty inside and they need to polish that.

[sackboyhappy]

BF3 felt unfinished when it was released, why not do it again... :(

[cactusjack]

now everyones going to jump on the delay your game bandwagon. thanks ubi

[jhoward585]

Guys this delay happened b/c most DEV finally realized they'll make more money if the x1 sales just as well as the ps4.

Plus, they also know that the x1 has the best looking 1st party games than the PS4.

But that still didn't make a deference, the PS4 was still the number one system of choice for most gamers.

So, by delaying the PS4's lineup of 3rd party games most gamers will eventually come to the conclusion that the x1 is the better system to buy since the x1 lineup of games are better than the ps4 lineup of games at launch.

As for Drive club, I personally think Drive club is a great game, but its no where near as close to the Dev's description of the game.By judging for the demos I've seen so far, Its doesn't appear to have that racing competition, joining a team to race against others around the world look to it.

Its look more like a simple racing game to me.

.