New Playstation 4 Freezing Video Surfaces. Does The System Have Overheating Problems?

This video and other similar incidents imply system has stability issues, and this is a situation Sony needs to address soon.

[Neonridr]

Every PS4 comes with a coupon for a free bag of ice from your local grocery store. ;)

Could just be an isolated incident, but with less than a month to launch, hopefully Sony is looking into this. If the system launches and there is widespread reports of overheated consoles and systems failing, it could be Sony's version of the RROD scandal. Would not be a good start.

[black0o]

'' They try to go home, and then enter back in, but this does not fix the problem. Finally, they leave the game completely and reenter''

the system didn't freeze the demo had bugs .. man the BF4 beta had much more bugs then any next gen demo and it's running on 7 years old systems

''freezing, over heating ..etc'' man u gotta luv those websites and their ways of begging for hits

[nukeitall]

It wouldn't surprise me if PS4 was overheating.

Sony are great hardware makers, but historically both the Xbox 360 and PS3 was huge, and had huge fans and such.

Fast forward, Xbox One is huge with a huge fan, whereas PS4 is tiny. Sony is great, but small tightly squeezed packages retain way more heat and dispel far less heat.

It can't be tiny and make no noise. That doesn't add up!

Something has to give, otherwise we would have silent laptops decades ago.

[4Sh0w]

hmmmm not a good sign, they had problems at TGS too but I'll give sony the benefit of the doubt and go with the idea that this is a bug and not overheating issue. So hopefully everything will get ironed out before launch or I'm sure they might have a patch in the works to fix minor bugs on launch day. Really this is just par for the course in this digital day and age everything has bugs n glitches early after release, things are much more complicated than when we all brought our NES.

[nypifisel]

Well nukeitall you don't understand how hardware progression works. Manufacturing process of the silicon in both consoles are down to 28nm which mean greater performance at lower TDP. Neither console will have overheating problems, both will have hardware regulated heating protections as well.

These stupid articles speculating about things they know nothing of, and if anything it's MS hardware which got a terrible track record. Not to even mention your lies about the PS4 cooling system seeing how NONE OF US HAVE SEEN THE INSIDE! And we do have silent laptops..

[FamilyGuy]

Yeah the wording is off, obviously the game itself was the issue as the system was running and went to the home screen as well as fully re-loaded the game just fine.
The fact that he was still able to navigate the system itself without a issue is a pretty big sign that the problem was with the game itself.

Worth noting is that Knack, the game seen freezing here, is on display at Sony stores right now in their kiosk setups. It's apparently running the old E3 build demo of the game so if there are problems people will be talking and taking pics and videos of anything that happens.

Some Neogaf members checked out the new kiosks today already and left impressions.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
http://i.imgur.com/G0XeT1q....

On the topic of PS4s small size: isn't it running a processor that's designed for laptops/tablets? It shouldn't have a problem being small considering that Jaguar processors size, low heat and the low heat of the RAM. Not to mention the PS4 has vents all around its base.

[black0o]

@nuketall welcome to 2013 were tech has improve and CPU/GPu heat has been reduced very much -look at tablets- and http://www.ign.com/articles...

and please don't put sony and ms on the same boat MS is still in 2000 they are still using AA batteries for GOD sake

[sonarus]

I wish i could say i was worried about this but then i'm not. It freezes big whoop. Not like ps3 games don't freeze it sucks when it happens but i usually just turn off the system as long as it restarts i aint mad

[Gazondaily]

If PS4 has overheating problems it would actually make sense. Why? Because I still don't get how the PS4 is so small and slim! I just close my eyes and pretend its magic.

Seriously. What's the slim line version of the PS4 going to be like? An SD card?!

[aCasualGamer]

@black0o

I agree with you here, people need to watch the footage for themselves. The video clearly shows the system still in function and they use the menu to quit the game. Probably a bug in the demo version of Knack, not the system itself.

[cleft5]

The BF3 beta froze my ps3 all the time. Also, the Metal of Honor Beta would freeze up your system if you got like 4 kills in a row. The AC4 demo had issues too. You can't really blame the console for a game demo freezing up the system. I am impressed by the fact that the console didn't completely lock up.

[black0o]

@cleft5 and this one of the new improvement that sony did with the ps4 .. i remember reading somewhere that when the software crushes the ps4 gpu keeps on working unlike the ps3 where gpu kinda freeze and u'll need to restart the whole system

@sitdown what kinda of batteries are u using in ur iPod? or r u still using walkmans?

[Sitdown]

@Black0o
What kind of batteries are in most TV, bluray, dvd, audio equipment remotes? Seems like 2000 is still relevant. What happens if you got a bad battery in your ps4 controller....now what about with the Xbox one? Now why can't Sony and MS be placed on the same level?

[insomnium2]

@sitdown

Facepalm......smh.

To the article I say: Anything to try and slow down the momentum. I recon we'll have plenty of these kinds of articles before launch.

[harrisk954]

@black0o

I completely agree... if the system froze, they would not have been able to "go home and enter back in", they would have had to reset (turn off and on) the PS4. It sound more likely that the demo had issues.

Not to mention, I love how an article is written implying some widespread overheating issues, when out of all the articles that have been written about the PS4, there have been no such complaints. Another website fishing for hits. smh

[GiggMan]

I agree about the battlefield 4 beta. It froze on me every other time I played it. I had to cut the system off and turn it back on to fix it.

[PoSTedUP]

My ps3 use to freeze back in '09. you had to flip the switch and reset it. this isnt freezing, this is being pulled out of someones ass.

[Sono421]

ummm.... I didn't see a PS4 freeze? last I checked he pressed the PS button multiple times and then left the game and went back to the home screen all while the PS4 was supposedly "frozen".

Any person with even half a brain cell would realize it's the game.. seriously... *facepalm*

The ignorance is heavy with this one ;)

[keabrown79]

@black0o Some of us prefer to use rechargeable AA ya know, so when the batteries die we don't have to throw the controller away and spend another $60. Just sayin.

[Amsterdamsters]

Yet, if this was on the Xbox One or Wii U, all the PoS4 fans that are defending this would be all over it, wouldn't they?

[J-R]

This looks like a bug to me, definitely not overheating. If it was an overheating issue I would expect the system to completely lock up or shutdown.

I'm not to worried about bugs. They should get fixed in time. (Looking at you GTA Online :P)

29 more days!

[johndoe11211]

Could someone, anyone, from the microsoft funbag please explain to me how could this be a heating issue if the system continued working perfectly and it was just the game that froze?

Which one of the previous gen systems overheated and it just affected the game that was playing and not the entire system?

There comes a point where logic and sensibility needs to take over and the idiotic fanboyism should take a back seat. Calling this a heating issue and bashing the system will negate any sensible arguments you may be trying to push in the future because you will be looked upon as nothing but a butt hurt fanboy.

Concerning the ps4 cooling system, has anyone seen the inside of the ps4 yet? If you have please link the picture because I certainly haven't. For all we know the entire board could be covered with 10 small cooling fans so unless we have more information why the heck is anyone speculating that the cooling system is inadequate?

I've had a sony vaio and a dell inspiron for the past couple of years that's smaller than the ps4 and I don't hear the fan and I've never had heating issues. This article is flame bait for the morons that need something to feel good about their xbox one purchase.

P.S.
If you bought an xbox one then you don't have to justify your purchase to anyone, just enjoy your damn system because that's what appeals to you. I know i'll be enjoying my ps4 regardless of flame bait articles like these.

[johndoe11211]

@keabrown79

You're right about that and that is exactly how I used to think....until I bought a turtle beach px5.

Changeable batteries do have their advantages but for me it's just not suited in the gaming environment. There is nothing worse than being in the heat of battle and having your accessory going dead and then having to swap batteries. That could cost you a game.

I bought my px5's because of the fact that it used AA batteries and I've regretted that decision ever since. Make no mistake the headphones themselves are amazing, sound quality is excellent but having your headphones go dead when you're on a kill streak...not so good. I figure the same will apply with a controller.

Funny though, I've had both my ps3 controllers for over three years and I have no issues with the batteries needing to be replaced. Everyone's experience is different I guess.

[iiwii]

@keabrown79

I never had to replace the battery in my DS3, but if I needed to I can grab one @ newegg for $5. They are not hard to change and certainly don't require anyone to throw their controller away if the battery goes bad. One would probably spend $5 every time you have to "recharge" your controller with AA's, unless you are buying the rechargable one's.

[Brix90]

@Sceptic & Nuketail

So what your saying is Ps4 will have heating issues because it's small and you dont have the understanding how Sony can make a small and powerful console. I mean even the ps3 super slim is small but I guess it has heating issue too lol...Sorry guys but in consoles bigger isn't always better because the size of the 360 or fat ps3 didn't help it from getting the RROD or YLOD.

[andibandit]

@customjoe11211

How does a custom shaped battery solve your problem?

[ChrisW]

But even wrapped in a blanket and put into an oven, the PS4 is a supercharged, overpowered beast and should NEVER falter.

[Autodidactdystopia]

Just an fyi, my rig when it used to overheat with my old 6970 would still function and the graphics driver would crash, however I was still able to use ""the menu" windows to end the game and play again."

Just depends on the overheating and how well the drivers do at detecting it before a total system freeze or reboot.

[cleft5]

Thats pretty funny. Hopefully this isn't the case but you never can be to sure about these things. Still, I feel like Sony will replace consoles if they do fail, so I am not too concern about it personally. This is part of the risk you take with being an early adopter.

[MyFeetHurt]

its not a risk for xbox adopters

[Armyless]

It's a gurantee?

[Peppino7]

I'm sure it'll be less than 3%. No need to panic. Sony's hardware is robust.

[Sayai jin]

@Peppino7 - True, Sony builds great hardware. Sony has had hardware issue before. The PS2 had a high number of the disk scratch issues and it plagued the console for a bit.

[My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante]

Sony is terrible at hardware aside from the PS3 and even some of those had problems. PS1 & PS2 had numerous problems and I wouldn't be surprised if PS4 has problems too. Microsoft had problems with the 360 but the Xbox was fine. I'm sure there won't be any problems with Xbox One compared to PS4.

[savaroth]

"PS1 & PS2 had numerous problems and I wouldn't be surprised if PS4 has problems too."

There were a hell of a lot of ps2's, so sure there were problems. However, I never had any problems with my ps2 and it still functions properly to this date. It was and is a great piece of hardware.

[TheDivine]

Yea Sony is bad at hardware. The psx had issues, every ps2 I've seen stops reading blue disks, ps3 ylod and my slim freezes constantly. Good news outside of my slims freezing and hdmi issues (the tv display jumps around until I unplug and replay the hdmi) is I left it on all day for the past two and half years and its still going strong. Sony has had pretty consistent issues from their systems to their tvs which used to have a 100% failure rate. It was a huge issue and lawsuit over their tvs.

I still ordered a ps4 already though. I trust the system enough to work outside of freezing which I anticipate based on my ps3 use. The only consoles which are virtually problem free are Nintendo's. every handheld and console still work a decade later and I've never had one freeze ever. Nin may not make a powerful system anymore but they make a solid system.

[GuyThatPlaysGames]

That's why it's never good to buy the first model of anything when it comes out. Give it a few months and I bet they will release another model that runs cooler, uses less power, and is more efficient. It happens everytime. Have we not learned by now?

[sprinterboy]

Yes I have learnt, still getting one launch day because if anything happens to the ps4 in the first 2 yrs uk manufacturing warranty they replace it with the newer model code ps4 so I can sleep at night troll

[Sono421]

Give it a few months... I bet you'll realize your wrong ;)

[warczar]

actually the original 80gig ps3's were by far the best version of the hardware. the first slimline version that they made had the most problems. It's just too damn bad micro was the market leader for most of this gen otherwise we would still have a ps3 with multiple card readers and the ability to play everything from ps1 to ps3.

[ceed911]

Sony having an overheat problem without a head start on the market like the 360 did, will really hurt them if they plan on making up ground in North America.

Microsoft will pounce on this and make sure it gets widespread as their voice is louder in NA.

[mxrider2199]

its not an overheating problem the console itself did not freeze its a bug of an e3 build of a demo of knack lol

[rainslacker]

I don't think MS would be wise to make a big deal about this even if it were true, their fans would do enough of that, and quite frankly, MS doesn't really have a strong reputation in that department.

I never saw Sony "pounce" all over MS for the RROD. Also the RROD didn't really seem to hurt MS this gen, so why would it hurt Sony if they had a similar issue.

[monkeyfox]

Sensationalist bullshit. Article is scaremongering at worst and irresponsible journalism at best.

I bet Microsoft are quietly happy about this though..:)

[123pol]

this is a debug unit .. and the OS is debug OS OFC it freezes and have a few bugs.. Sony already adresed this video
http://www.kotaku.com.au/20... READ !!!

this video is spreading false information ...

[StoutBEER]

Well as an Xbox One adopter first and Playstation 4 later on, this is scary. But more than likely if there are overheating issues, they will probably get it fixed before i buy one

[JsonHenry]

Probably a software problem. Not system.

[Magicite]

Another PS4 flamebait article surfaces. Do the xbots have jealousness problems?

[iiwii]

Microsoft are worried, bro. They are pulling out all stops to spread lies and misinformation ahead of the PS4 launch.

And those XBox fans who are worried that their friend list will get smaller are out in full force trying to help stop the landslide.

[donman1]

This has already been proven to be false.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Spenok]

This article is just begging or hits.

If you notice the system doesn't freeze at all. It's the game. If the system was freezing they wouldn't be able to back out of the game and try to restart the demo. They would have to turn off the system first.

Someone clearly just wants to soil the PS4's name. It's sad that articles like this not only get written, but approved :/

[Neonridr]

to be fair, if this was an Xbox One, the same things would be written and the same jokes would be made, if not worse.

Yes, the video looks like it's clearly the game's fault not the system. The extra heat could be due to the PS4 not having adequate ventilation, although could be something more. Time will tell on that one.

[Kaze88]

Its no overheat because they can access the ps4 mainscreen ingame and reboot the game. The game was just buggy.

If the hole console would freeze you couldnt do shit and most likely the console would shutdown. Also if a game froze on ps3 you had to reboot the hole console, but on ps4 it seems that the hole game cant freeze the system. I remember AC which froze my old ps3 after an hour, after patches no freezing...it was the games fault. Not overheating.

[Elzer]

Search " Playing xbox 360 with RROD" you'll find a few videos that show the dashboard fully functionally but when launching the game it freezes and crashes. "Fact"

Except that there is a possibility that it is the cause of the ps4 and not the demo knack.

The guy is aware the ps4 is overheating first. How? Must have heard the noise from the system.....then the game coincidentally started freezing??!

[black0o]

whatever helps get throw the night

[BG11579]

They continue to play with the console during one hour after the incident. People were asking questions about the console during that time.
It was a live feed at the time done from PS4 appartement in Paris...
I saw it live.

[Deadpoolio]

It's not even a freezing or over heating issue period...If it were in the same respect as M$ and their RROD it wouldn't still continue to function overall. Clearly in the video he still navigates and closes the game...It would be an over heating issue IF the system actually ceased working, this is obviously a site looking for hits and an Xbot trying to make something out of nothing

[Ps4Console]

What ever it is it's a problem that needs to be addressed though I'am quite worried because the game in question is Knack a Ps4 exclusive that would take a lot of grunt to run these exclusives other than normal third party games . Though I think it will be addressed but only a month left it needs to now .

[kewlkat007]

I usually give Sony the benefit of the doubt because they are good at condensing hardware into a nice powerful package but I don't see you can make the PS4 smaller then it already is.

I still wonder if that might play a factor with heat dissipation. Anyhow...in a couple of weeks we will see.

[WadeMace1]

already have their own version of rrod its called yellow light of death and they both happened to me.

[RickHiggity]

The console also isn't out yet. so there's that too.

[DonFreezer]

What the fuck is this nonsense?All consoles that go to stores for the preview area are inside a box.If the "super" station 4 can't stay at it's feet in a box there's something completely wrong about it. We have used computers for ages to know that when you make things smaller you're going to have overheating problems and noise. Anyone who denies that is blind ps fantroll. If this was an Xbox One article you would storm the for sure and hopefully buttons and you would cry about an 53 mhz upclock giving the system overheating when most of your graphics cards have twice that in overclock and never overheat.

[Retroman]

Gee, first article to make ps4 look bad must be slow day for editor...........ok, we all know every electronic will have problems

cant wait for next article xbone is DOOM!!!

Shake my head

[Stsonic]

Sony know how to make hardware that does not have a 100% failure rating ;)

Just to be clear I am referring to the original xbox 360...

[B1663r]

Every Sony CD player and dvd player that burnt out in a years time that I ever owned over the last 20 years says hi!

[WeAreLegion]

If all Sony CD players and DVD players died on you...why would you keep buying Sony products?

I have a feeling you're not being 100% truthful.

[punisher99]

@B1663r:

My 13 year old Playstation 2, that still works perfectly this day, says HI. :)

[Thehyph]

Yeah that doesn't seem very truthful.

Also, Sony are coming around in most fields of consumer electronics in terms of quality.

Good for them, South Korea has been handing it to Japanese electronics companies.

While I can't speak for LG, has anyone else noticed the amount of crap that Samsung is putting out now that they've instilled some brand recognition and loyalty? They could start going the way Sony did.

[Death]

I've persoanlly gone through multiple Playstations and PS2's. The original Playstation used plastic laser tracks that would wear out with use. You could flip the console to extend it's life, but that didn't last more than a year. On one of my PS2's the DVD tray stopped working and the other quit displaying video if memory serves me right. The slim I bought seems bulletproof, but I didn't really use it much since my 60gig played my PS2 games and has worked flawlessly since I bought it shortly after launch. One of my Sony Blu-ray players locks up when exiting Netflix which is getting annoying. I'm hoping a firmware update will fix it, I just haven't had much time to check it out.

[JsonHenry]

That is so funny man. I've owned a few Sony CD/DVD drives over the years and they all die much quicker than the competition. So much so that I stopped buying them.

I went through 3 PS2s back in the day because of the DVD drives going out in them.

Never had a problem with any other Sony product though. I've had Sony mixers, Televisions, the PS1/PS3, speakers, amps, car disc changers, PCs, and media hubs and never had a problem. But those damn CD/DVD drives.... I will never buy one again.

[RevXM]

What. My ps2 Ive had since 2004, Ps3 since 2009.
And my Discman D-173 from god knows when they all still work like ever.

Do you put your sony products in a greenhouse?

[1OddWorld]

My Day 1 60gig PS3 Phat says hi as well.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

you math is a little bit off. I've own the original 360 and never had to replace it or have it fixed, although now it just collects dust because i have the upgraded version of the 360

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Mine collected dust until I gave it away because of years of no exclusives.

[Death]

You mean years of no exclusives that you liked. Without a doubt the PS3 had many more exclusives, but they didn't appeal to everyone. I probably picked up the same amount for each system. Not a slam against Sony, just my personal preference.

[Deadpoolio]

That doesn't change the FACT that the 360 had a 55% failure rate for the first 4 years of it's life....And that should be stunningly embarrassing to MicroSoft...Anything in the under 10% usually around 2-4% is considered normal 55% is just embarrassing...

[Hicken]

C'mon, Death. You know the point.

There's a difference between having two or three exclusives in a year and not liking any of them, and having a dozen or so exclusives and not liking any of them.

If you look at a library of three games and can't find anything, that's kinda because there's not a lot to choose from. If you look at 15 games and don't find anything, it's more likely you're being picky.

[ebreda]

Really? How about the fat PS3s que yloded pretty much at a 100% rate?

@stsonic

I'm sorry, I don't know ONE fat PS3 still running today. I had 2 yloded on me. All of my other friends lost their fat PS3, just as they lost the launch 360.

[Stsonic]

Pretty much all electronics have a 100% failure rating I was talking in terms of 1, 2 or 3 years.

Phat ps3's had problems but no where near the scale as the red rings. I work in computer repair, the amount of problems I had to deal with Xbox red rings was ridiculous I ended up refusing them.

The stupid thing is all Microsoft had to do was put a cheap fan just like the one they have over the cpu heat sink on the slims and they would have never had a problem. A company like Microsoft can manufacture a fan for less than $1 probably so ask yourself why was this never done?

[black0o]

spinning facts here r we?
.. my fat @$$ ps3 still running fine but with sounds like a jet lol all i did was buy a new 500GB HD .. and x360 is the only console in history that had 54% failure rate

-x360 sold like 40+ millions at US where the ps3 doing around 23+ million
but when u look at software sells u say no big difference at all which means 50% of the x360 sells are thx to the RROD

[Death]

My 60 gig is still going strong. I haven't paid to replace any of my 360's, but my launch unit was replaced multiple times under the three year warranty. Oddly my original Elite has never had an issue.

[AceofStaves]

My launch PS3 still works perfectly. My launch PS2 also works, as does the PS1 I bought in 1997.

That's why I'm getting a PS4 at launch. I've never had an issue with a Sony games console.

[Spenok]

I still have a working LAUNCH 60GB. So sorry, not a 100% failure rate.

[oONinjavitiSOo]

Umm are you serious? My original fat ps3 still works perfectly and I've used it almost every day since launch. Keep reaching people. I guess some people are just hoping for shit to go wrong..... pathetic people pretending to be gamers. In almost 30 years I have never seen so many morons playing games. There was a time when people thought gamers were smart but a lot of you are definitely shattering that sterotype. Clearly the demo had issues and the ps4 most certainly did not freeze otherwise he wouldn't have been able to get to the home screen. Apparently some "gamers" eyes and brains have quit working.

[Imalwaysright]

When my second Phat PS3 YLod on me I decided to let everyone that is going to buy next gen consoles at launch beta test them for me.

[rainslacker]

I must be damn lucky then, because my phat PS3 still runs like a champ. Only game it's ever frozen on was ME3, and others had the same problem so likely a software issue.

Only repair I've ever done was cleaning the laser...but I'm a smoker so that's not uncommon.

Also, I'm pretty sure if the fail rate was anywhere close to 100%...hell even 20%, Sony would have had a class action lawsuit against them.

[Sayai jin]

Stsonic, true Sony makes reliable products, but look at the PS2's wide spread disk scratch issues. Hardware issues can happen to any console.

BTW, this article has nothing to do with the Xbox.

[mxrider2199]

just like the 360 except for it scratched your disk and killed itself

[Sayai jin]

@mxrider2199- once again, this article, if true...has nothing to do with the 360. Why do you mention it?

[Xsilver]

Early build of what the UI looks like
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/qNkS...

Updated build that they showed at gamescom
http://thecontrolleronline....

From the Video in the article the if you saw the whole vid http://www.youtube.com/watc... the console had the early build UI that was leaked so this probably was a demo Unit.

[dboyman]

I saw that video but got turned off with the music and no commentary. Does anyone have a video WITHOUT the music and with commentary?

[SonyNGP]

Shocking

[moegooner88]

For those wondering about what happened.

[Xsilver]

You just saved this saved this comment section from becoming a total bait fest 1+Bubbles for that

[Stsonic]

It will still be a fest. People type with with titles I'm afraid.

[PositiveEmotions]

I knew that is was that because if you remember they showed the ps4s in glass closed boxes with the PS4s inside them so thats why the ps4 over heated.

[Kayant]

And we are done here. This is the same thing as the red light of warning situation.

Lesson learn is don't put your electronics in a unventilated box.

[GarrusVakarian]

"This video and other similar incidents imply system has stability issues, and this is a situation Sony needs to address soon"

So, this video and ONE other instance of a red light being displayed means the system has stability issues? Ha.

Way to jump to mega conclusions.

[ballsohard2013]

there we're a few other videos (about 3). This is the 1st time i saw this specific video tho.

[hankmoody]

If these overheating PS4s are in display cases with little breathing room, than that's understandable. If it's not however, that won't be good news for them. Hoping that they're not cutting too many corners to meet demand because Sony may very well have a debacle on their hands to rival that of the RRoD.

[GarrusVakarian]

"Sony may very well have a debacle on their hands to rival that of the RRoD."

You must be Mr.Psychic-conclusionjumper, pleased to meet you.

[hankmoody]

I'm not trying to rain on the PS4 parade here. All I'm saying is, if they're cutting any kind of corners to rush and meet customer demand, it's entirely possible that the initial first wave of systems may come out with problems. Same thing with the XB1.

[Nocando]

He has his very own "Jump to Conclusions" mat.

[rainslacker]

Nothing about the PS4 launch seems rushed. In fact it seems like everything is planned amazingly well. The PS1 lead-up to launch was like this, where Sony hit every note perfectly. Outside a few trade show gafs, they've been doing the same here.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

Sounds more like the game was having problems not the console buggy game code is what caused the game to crash more than anything. Who ever titles this is just aiming to get hits, the ps4 doesn't overheat at all the game crashed they quit and then relaunched it ps4 didn't shut off or get turned off

[Spenok]

I'm glad SOMEONE else on this board noticed that. It's really not that hard to use your brain to see things like this. Everyone just looks at the title and assumes it is correct.

[Relientk77]

I'm good, I am not playing my PS4 while it's in a box or display case

[famoussasjohn]

Who would have thought that having an enclosure over the console that's generate heat and then dispells the heat and then reuses the heat since there's no where to push the heat anywhere else would cause it to overheat?

[EXVirtual]

Every console has some form of over heating at launch. It's not that big of a deal for me, as I'm getting a PS4 next year earliest.

[Nocando]

Not saying this is a common occurrence with the PS4, but isn't that where most people place their gaming console?

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

In a small, clear, plastic box under the TV?

No.

[Nocando]

I have an entertainment center, but I leave the glass door open while playing. You mean they gave the PS4 NO ventilation? Silly people.

[Spenok]

When they have models out for display, be it at conventions like this one, or at store, they tend to give them little ventilation.

Though sometimes they are smart with their demo displays and cut small holes into them so the systems can breath.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

Sounds more like the game was having problems not the console buggy game code is what caused the game to crash more than anything. Who ever titles this is just aiming to get hits, the ps4 doesn't overheat at all the game crashed they quit and then relaunched it ps4 didn't shut off or get turned off

[evilhasitsway]

yeah if you watch the video the system doesn't freeze that is the game just got bugs cause they do back out and go back in then quit and relaunch not system just the game its self. man was this a bs article.

[GTgamer]

Your rite i just watched the Vid again i guess people trying to get hits expect a bunch more of these articles to surface.

[memots]

*you're , *right

[GTgamer]

Thank you grammar police but when i use N4g on my phone i don't feel like being punctual on everything.

[Hicken]

Punctual refers to being on time...

[d3nworth1]

Every console, handheld, PC, tablet, cellphone cable, etc freezes once in a while. Just restart it an move on.

[GTgamer]

Why do they keep putting it in Cases with no ventilation what do they think will happen. Anyway I'm PS4 will work fine because it wont be in a Case.

[CC-Tron]

Ship the Ps4 with a fire extinguisher and the problem is solved.

[isarai]

Not really freezing at all, the PS4 itself seems completely unaffected as the UI still runs fast and smooth, looks more like a bug with KNACK which is to be expected as it's not finished and the build they are playing is more than likely the same vertical slice they've been presenting since their meeting back in feb

[truechainz]

Okay let's let the console come out now shall we? There will be bugs to fix as with any launch, but we don't need to sit through another month of these articles that only try to kill excitement.

[DanielGearSolid]

Is there any real reason to put these consoles in display boxes anymore... All other consumer electronics are in the open with some sort of mechnaism to prevent theft... Its common sense

[Haules]

The game was freezing not the console.

Man some "gaming" websites try so hard to make the PS4 look bad...

[0pie]

can it be just the game that has issue?

Anyway, gameranx should not be seen as a reliable source of information.

[Ced214]

All right everyone,

[ZHZ90]

People spreading false rumor.

[JackVagina]

Looked more like an issue with Knack, since the UI worked just fine

[meatysausage]

When are people going to learn, dont put electronics in closed spaces with no air. Its so logical. That being said, these things are on for days on end for these shows so its no surprise

[arl99b]

closed box?

realy?

http://i.imgur.com/Hz7WAgC....

[meatysausage]

Go and read their tweets that they made
Then you can stop

[Ethereal]

Here we go again....

[MajorAly]

I think Microsoft got their PS4 pre-orders early and started stress testing it by putting it through rigorous and ridiculous tests.

Putting it in an oven for example.

[pyramidshead]

Until I see a real report on a PS4 overheating like a volcano, I'll call BS. Sony, a hardware company overlooking a tremendous issue in regards to cooling in a tiny case, I don't buy it. If they prove me wrong, of course, I'll gladly agree with the rest that this is worrying. Until then, reach higher, internet!

[polow got sol]

There aren't enough good games at launch for the ps4 for people to be playing to notice any overheating issues. We wont really know if the console truly overheats until about 2 years in when there's enough good games for people to be playing for more than half an hour

[WeAreLegion]

I'll be playing 21 games at launch. What the frick are you talking about?

[shysun]

Kz:sf, bf4, ac4, Dc, Cod:Ghost and knack for the kids!

[WeAreLegion]

Good stuff, shysun! I'm getting:

KZ:SF
Knack
LEGO Marvel Superheroes
ACIV:BF
BF4
PlanetSide 2
Warframe
War Thunder
DCU:Online
Blacklight: Retribution
The Playroom, obviously. Lol. I'm actually pretty excited about that one.

The rest are either indie or smaller titles from Sony. Can't wait to play everything on my Vita, too! :D

[ddversteeg]

It's clearly the Game that's freezing, not the console.. No sign for overheating anywhere...
I wonder how much M$ payed for this headline..
You have to try something to get negative attention for the PS4...

[Izzy408]

we've seen this happen way to many times during the course of a few months. From the failure during E3 conference all the way up to gamescome and now TGS. stop being in denial.

[XisThatKid]

Just because I seen an X1 crash a month before it comes out doesn't mean its going to have overheating problems nor any other console.

[ballsohard2013]

interesting... the fanboys don't know what to say at this moment. Cause a few days ago, they said the redline on the ps4 was photoshopped.

Im honestly considering waiting now to buy both the ps4 and x1...maybe til spring even though i have both reserved. The Ps4 just doesnt have the lineup i woulda thought of for its 1st 12 months. Also there was rumors before that the ps4 casing wasnt ideal for ventilation leaving it prone to over heating.

X1 has somewhat of a decent lineup but watch dogs was one of my launch purchases with Ryse, nba 2k14 and maybe COD. Im not too impressed with the lineup also but the next 12 months look decent with titanfall, halo and division. Putting good use to those dedicated servers

[Animal Mutha 76]

This was from yesterday - catch up N4G!

It may be the game bugging out but If you have the French translated he says that the machine is very hot when he puts his hand over it and that you could use it as a heater in winter or something to that effect.

Odd issue to see really at this stage.

[ballsohard2013]

good looking... i was trying to understand what he was saying. I took french in high school. all i could makeout was heat/hot.

It doesnt seem as if the ps4 is in a case like everyone is mentioning

[McScroggz]

Maybe it's an isolated incident? There have been a lot of people get time with the PS4 by now and pretty much everybody has said the console runs a little warm - which is to be expected by an electronic product designed to run for hours upon hours. I'm just not really all that miffed about this video.

[Lboogieskells]

Freezing doesn't always point to a hardware issue.

[Themba76]

big deal my 360 freezes all the time at least twice a day.

[Visiblemarc]

"Something has to give, otherwise we would have silent laptops decades ago."

Um, in 2013, we even have closed passive heat management on super powerful tablets. Laptops have been next-to-silent for more than a decade. Clearly the PS4 isn't literally silent, it's probably just laptop-quiet. TBH the PS3 slim is pretty damn quiet if you keep the vents clean.

Overall though, yes I think this story is click-bait.

[assdan]

My laptop is close to the power of an x1 and makes nearly no fan noises, is twice as thin as a ps4, and doesn't have any overheating issues. Its very doable.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

we will only know if this is an issue after the system has been released and subjected to real world enviroments

[tiffac008]

Does anyone know if the PS4 in that video was in a enclosed casing without proper ventilation? The video really didn't show.

Edit: Well for an overheating console it still went to the UI screen and restarted the game without any problems. The only thing I saw on the video was Knack freezing and not the PS4. Maybe its a demo glitch?

[assdan]

The red line issue was a fake and that is clearly a glitchy demo. If the entire system was freezing up, they wouldn't have been able to get to the home screen instantaneously like you saw in the video. These rumors are beginning to get pathetic. Not to mention if it was freezing, one example of a crash doesn't mean an overhesting issue.

[AD705]

If it froze then why was the guy still able to go on the dashboard and navigate it?

[123pol]

FFS ITS A DEBUG UNIT !!! THE OS IN THE CLIP IS NOT THE FINAL RELEASE : NEITHER IS THE CONSOLE !!

[Yo Mama]

http://www.doublejump.co/ps...

PS4 runs significantly cooler than the PS3 so I highly doubt it's overheating. The software is probably being weird because it's pre alpha or beta.

[quenomamen]

I know this is N4G but let's try and use this thing called logic, just like the PS3, 360 PCs, I'm sure the PS4 and Xbone will have built in overheating protection. Software causes freezes 99% of time. If this was an overheating issue there would some sort of message or beeping or the system would shut off automatically and not come back on till it cooled down.

[jackdaddy]

Stay calm people, it will be fine!

[MadMen]

OMG so much denial, if it overheats in this video, it COULD have issues or it may just indeed be this system

Xbox fans dont rejoice

PS fans do not be in denial

I swear its like a baby sitting class on this site

[Mr_Luke]

I'm not worried about this, probably it's not a big problem, could be the box where it was or something. Overheating happens tho, for about everything that works with electricity. Anyway i'm waiting for the Xbox fanboys claiming "I got a PS4, it froze! It burnt! It melted my room! My country is in flames!".... and they didn't even buy it. My old workmate said something like that and he was a huge M$ fanboy... sadness...
I'm a bit joking, btw, before someone kills me (besides the last part, my old workmate was really like that).
When the console is out i'll see.

[Frogman]

Lets face it pple neither the X-1 nor PS4 is perfect, both have strong and weak points in their systems. If either one was sooo great then we wouldn't be arguing day inn and day out which is a better buy.

[Phoenix76]

As was pointed out right at the very bottom of the article,(for those who just read the headine only) the ps4 was in a closed plastic container with little to no air being able to cool the system down, the game 'knack' they was playing was an older build version and when they dropped out on to desktop, the UI worked fine.
So, hardware (ps4) side is fine, software (knack) side still needs work

[ground_beef]

I know this is completely off topic, but am still kinda new here, I just wanted to know how the bubble system works ? And if I wanted to post an article about romance, friendship, work etc in the forums where do I post it, I don't see a general topics forum. if I submitted a blog and I got a report on it, then deleted the blog, can I repost it on the forums ? Or will it be considered spam ? And does getting reports/minus bubbles/disagrees affect your membership in the site ? And can I post the same comment over but within different articles ?

[gamertk421]

We don't believe in romance, friendship and work here. It's all system wars all the time! J/K, but I have never seen a general section like other blogs. In terms of bubbles, others can bubble you up or down based on your comments, and the number of bubbles you have determines how many comments you can make per article. BTW, if you're not a Sony fan, good luck in here.

[ground_beef]

Lool actually I don't believe in romance and love anymore too looool, anyways thanks mate.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The site has a forum that you can post all kinds of off-gaming discussions and other things. There is actually a good group in the forums and they don't spend much time on the main site. It's the last link at the top of the main page.

The bubble system is controlled by the community. If a user trolls or is rude in the comments the community can down vote their bubbles. Each bubble represents how many times you can comment in any particular story. If you contribute well in the comments people can bubble you up and you have more chances to comment in each story.

Hope this helps.

[ground_beef]

Thanks bro, bubble system is pretty sweet

[WhatchaTalkinBout]

i would say its knack, once out of the game and to the dash the system ran fine same as it did before, hopefully they solve knack's problem..

[MisfitsInc]

when these devkits are constantly played with all day there's bound to be some problems

[Tooly]

Smh This Aqain ppl Try So hard

[ebreda]

I love just how Sony's bad news are treated like just another walk in the park by SDF. "no big deal" "just a bug" "nothing to be worried about" "we won't even notice" they say.

MS' news, on the other hand...

[akurtz]

My Ps3 never freezes, ONLY when i play the BF4 beta. It froze like 4 times during the few sessions ive played. When i got to play uncharted, sotc, kz or cod, it mever freezes.
It could just be the games.
I dont understand how this ome freezes and the other "supposed" overheating ps4 gave a warning.

[gdguide]

Not saying this is true or not, but I never buy a console on day one. Wait a month and see if there are issues. Both sides would be wise to do this. Although many issues come out after months of use I suppose.

[Kidmyst]

My PC puts off alot of Heat too and my case has 6 fans. So I expect the Xbone and PS4 to put out some heat as well.

[LAYLOW]

I read lots of you are in denial, what a shame ....why did they both put their hands over the system if not to take notice that it was releasing more heat than it should? Regardless if the sofware was provoking it ,it still overheated and it looks to be an issue . Im cancelling my preorder ,X1 here i come.

[1nsomniac]

To everybody who didn't even watch the video (i.e. Everybody!!)

The PS4 didn't freeze at all! The game looks as though there was a memory leak as it grinded slowly to a halt. Memory leaks are typical in preview code even in retail code but as you can see in the video, the PS4 system is completely fine as he brings up the XMB in game & re-runs the game effortlessly!

It actually looks as though it was caused by the journalists putting it into suspend mode in the first place.

No console restart or shutdown at all so I have absolutely no idea where this overheating idea came from. 2 pages of comments & not 1 person has watched the video!

The plus point of this video is that although the memory is unified the sluggishness of the memory leak ingame did not cross over to the XMB/OS - If anything this is a big plus!!

I would imagine this is due to memory management with the secondary custom chip. I think this article has back fired on a few people.

[gamertk421]

Dat uh-oh...

[MegaRay]

Pre-order Cancelled!

[saber00005]

Coming from the XBOX fanboy... LOL.

[MegaRay]

Im a kh fanboy as my thumbnail suggests so no I always liked PS. Be greatful that I even pre-order it in the first place. never even consider getting an bone even after a price drop so seeya after KH 3 and FFXV release and their a better slim PS4 and even cheaper haha!

[saber00005]

That will be 3 years probably down the line. Anyways.. Don't cancel a pre-order or any order based off of 1 review (or in this case, a rumor). Sony has been VERY consistent with their products. They know what they are doing. Unlike the Xbox One.

[lildudexst]

working for site like this annoying cuz you have lie about something that very very and make them as big as possible so people take notice.But in reality it was one console that did it. Most likely it was the game that had major bug.

[tutt22]

More Microsoft propaganda.

[sickamore]

Are you guys serious this is obviously a bug in the demo game I had my PS3 freeze several times while playing Battlefield 4 Beta and that was on a PS3 and I did a similar thing trying to go back to home screen to clear it up.

Geesh you guys need to dig a little deeper if you truly want to kill the PS4 momentum.

[PurpHerbison]

The PS3 has been freezing since it came out. The freezing problem didn't get bad til maybe a year ago. And this is on new models. George Foreman didn't freeze on me that much.

[sickamore]

I watched the video and clearly the game was having issues so the end result was to reset the game not the hardware.

Don't misunderstand me no system in the world is 100% fool proof so either way whats the point I'm sure many people will find similar issues with Xbox 360 and Xbox One.

[Izzy408]

here come the PS fanboys to do damage control... how ironic.

[N4GJD]

You notice the recent amount of negative playstation 4 stories recently? I wouldn't be surprised if this is part Microsoft's damage control in action.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Yawn...... If he can exit to the UI its not a system freeze hence nothing to do with overheating etc. Its a bug in the knack Demo. Some people do back flips to get a fanboy rant in here and to get people replying to them sad fcuks tbh.

[cell989]

that was more of a bug on the game not the hardware itself. These consoles are running on 28nm specs less power consumption less heat generated, plus Sony has a good track record of quality on their products, there was that laser incident back in the pS2 days, but its was ironed out quite quickly, back then when forums and such were none existent

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The system is NOT froze and it seems like an assumption to say it's overheating. Looking at the video it seems like a software problem and then it is corrected by going out and back in.

I've seen a lot of stories today with knee jerk reactions to isolated problems and taking developers comments out of context. I hope we filter this stuff out more in the pending section before it hits the front page and spreads FUD.

[Ozmoses]

Every console will freeze...

Regardless of game... if you play the system for long amounts of time you will most likely experience system freezing.

It happens with current games today...

GTA V has frozen, Diablo III has frozen, BF3 has frozen, Halo has frozen, God of War has frozen.....

It doesn't matter.. Certain things can cause the system to work overwhelming hard, and the eventual freeze happens..

for example, constantly going in and out of the XMB or the dashboard while other things are running..

it doesn't happen that often, but it happens enough to know that no matter what you play, it will eventually freeze..

it's something you deal with... it doesn't mean in anyway that your shit is fucked up.

[Clarence]

Nice try.

[tweet75]

this is why i am no longer a console early adopter. After the read ring of death fiasco last gen I no longer buy a console until it as least 6 months old and I can see others feedback and experiences.

[Master-Tonberry]

Looks nothing like a heat problem to me, if it was overheating I would expect to see graphical artifacts, a complete lock-up or a system restart. This looks like an issue with the game which is not surprising seeing as it's unfinished code.
As for those saying you can't fit hardware as powerful as the PS4 into such a small case, there are gaming laptops and SFF PC's doing it right now.

[cliffyboy21]

i wouldnt worry too much about it just a minor thing. sony makes great hardware. i still have my fat ps3 and it works just fine so im sure they wont have those problems like the 360 did

[Sayai jin]

If true, it'll get worked out.

[Saithraphim]

Its most likely an isolated issue, i get the impression Sony finalized the system months ago so testing on the final hardware has been underway for long enough for them to discover any real problems. MS has a tendency of making last minutes changes...one of the reasons the RROD prob happened

[osprey19]

Hmmmmmmm, this will be hard for a ps fanboy to defend. As great as a console is/can be its useless if it melts when its turned on.

[saber00005]

If you watch the video, it's clearly the game. Why I say that? The part of the video when the game was locking up completely, one of the presenters went into UI (ps4 home) and it worked flawlessly. If people still don't understand that, if the PS4 was "overheating", why were they able to get on PS4 home without ANY issues or lag?

Just saying. Nice try..

[osprey19]

Just because the game has a difficulty playing does not mean that it was the game and not the console, there are hundreds of thousands of people with Broken consoles that can attest to that. My first console ( im on my second) worked flawlessly until a games disc was plopped in. There is a list as long as my...😖 Well...its long....anyway where was i....oh yes, there are a vast number of reasons why a game wouldn't play flawlessly. Ur reason is a possibility, so is mine, and number of unmentioned reasons. But if this reason is not down to a dodgy disc but the console, the ps4 may not be as perfect as some people claim.

[feraldrgn]

The game they were playing is in Beta stage
(ie: not finalised, not stable).

That should be reason enough.

[Dr Nightblade]

Who cares by the time I get one it will work, and if it doesnt they will replace...the world isn't crumbling.

[saber00005]

If you watch the video, it's clearly the game. Why I say that? The part of the video when the game was locking up completely, one of the presenters went into UI (ps4 home) and it worked flawlessly. If people still don't understand that, if the PS4 was "overheating", why were they able to get on PS4 home without ANY issues or lag?

Just saying. Nice try..

[bligmerk]

Yes, it's obvious the game beta is having a slow down and freeze, while the player is quickly able to go to the UI, proving the system is not locked up. A general thermal problem would make the system unresponsive. In fact, it snaps to the UI very quickly. The only thermal overload here is the article site making flamebait out of a random early beta game lockup.

[josephayal]

Super Fake

[RDF]

Flamebait nothing more or less. With all the positive news the PS4 is getting dont be too surprised with all these hit and run reports. Sheer desperation is all that these "stories" really share.

[PurpHerbison]

Just going to have to wait and see. Another solid reason why I don't get new consoles at launch.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I wont jump to any conclusions at this point given its not even out yet. As it stands...its just one of those moments that went wrong for the guys demoing it. Anytime you are live you stand the chance to have something go wrong...its just the nature of the beast.

[NewAgeisHere]

So I see MS is launching a black op to flood the web with negative ps4 articles.....

[Tzuno]

I don't know but i expect overheating problems in these next gen consoles. Lol at those who preordered.

[Hakoom]

every system in the world freezes and glitches
i have yet to see a console or even a 10k$ pc that doesnt freez or needs a restart

[cactusjack]

sounds like those madcow scares, if 1 cow is twitching and twerking, then you kill 20 million more cows.

[captain_slow82]

the good thing is when the game code fails ie this video the console will still function yay :D

that rite there says no over heating lol

edit

i know MS ya want people to think ps4 has over heating problems hahaha de dum eh guys lol

[cactusjack]

1 guy with 1 isolated insident, call sony costumer service, and get another ps4. bada bing

[ruefrak]

Um.... the PS4 isn't "overheating" it's just "heating." All electronics, computers, phones, consoles, get warm when you use them long enough. If the system was "overheating" it would fail. It wouldn't freeze the game, it would shut down.
I'm failing to understand how a warm console (and my PS3 gets warm a lot of times) and a frozen game equal to overheating? They didn't fix the problem by cooling it down. They fixed it by resetting the game, which means the console didn't "overheat."

[creepjack]

Not true. it doesn't always just shut down. You can experience artifacting, frame rate issues, and/or total freezes.

I've had GPU's in my pc overheat with artifacting and framedrop, and turning it off and back on temporarily fixed the problem, but it would happen again pretty quickly. The vents on the heat sink was all clogged up. cleaned them out, ran fine again for a while, but the card died not long after ( a few months). The damage was already done.

[mkis007]

This evidence amounts to not much really, The demoes we see will not be the final games we play. Wait till launch before you say the console overheats.

[Orionsangel]

Which of the new consoles will be the first to have a major default that causes a scandal?

[Jovanian]

And this is why you don't buy something major like a console day 1 without waiting to see if it has hardware failures, like PS4 seems to be having

[TKCMuzzer]

It's a debug PS4 with a beta game and the console doesn't actually freeze or overheat, it's a game issue. Do people see what they want to? or do they just like to ride bandwagons?

[Jovanian]

Excuses, excuses.

The probability of crippling hardware failure issues is far from absurd, given last gen what with the blue light of death and the yellow light of death and the red ring of death (from xbox)

[Chevalier]

Really my launch PS3 plays the same as the day I bought it. Your fears for overheating PS4 seems sensationalist and a bit absurd. Don't see how this is even a problem, have you actually seen the display? They're not ventilated. Maybe if we were talking about the One and MS which have had RROD on previous generation then maybe you having concerns would make a bit of sense at least.

[PurpHerbison]

Then you are lucky. Everybody I know that owns a launch PS3 had to have it fixed sometime in the last year, for it to eventually break down again. Your PS3 is really threading the needle there.

[TKCMuzzer]

How has this become a story. The PS4 doesn't even lock up and yet someone has made an article out of it. Getting bored of this crap now.
If they want to get on someone's back they can get on Activisions and ask them how after numerous patches BOPS2 continues to freeze my PS3 when other games cope fine.

[creepjack]

This is either a memory leak (most likely) or the GPU overheating. One is a software problem and the other is hardware. Spin in either direction all you want, but we better hope it's not the latter.

If this thing is really pushing power that can rival some gaming PCs, then tablet APU or not, dont be surprised if the PS4 has some pretty significant heat problems. There is a reason gaming PC towers tend to be huge.

[lawgone]

It is worth keeping an eye on. I'm no engineer but it doesn't make sense it can be this small and have an internal power unit. My first PS3/ george foreman grill used to get super hot but never shut off.

[Chevalier]

It also isn't in a nonventilated plastic casing though so your comparison makes no sense.

[AutoCad]

yikes

[DarkAzureIIIX]

It's been what? 7 year or so with the current console so I can understand the ignorants of new gamers so let me enlighten you. When a game freeze, crash it's a software problem, skipping may occur when the game has data streaming problems which could be software or hardware(PS1 had streaming problems caused by the hardware which is unlikely with current tech). So about Overheating, 2 thing may happen if overheating occur A) the system shuts off because something in the system burned out, the system must be fix to resume operation, or B) The system failsafe kicks in shutting off the system saving the system from needing to be fixed, the system must cool down to resume operation. Nothing in the video indicated that 'A' or 'B' occurred so NO overheating problems, What i did see was a software bug that needs to be fix and most likely already has, why would I say that? Cause everyone know that a company sends out the demo with the fewest bugs but that most likely not the latest build of the game.

[SwiftArsonist]

did they try turning it off and on again? lol they probably gonna ask yoshida again if its true like hea gonna say yes #sonyponylogic

[lawgone]

You have to blow in the cartridge really hard back and forth. Then stick it back in and you should be good to go.

[lawgone]

Let's be fair here, if this had happened to the XBox One the predictions of doom and failure and "I told you so's" would be off the charts.

[ShwankyShpanky]

Well, that would depend on whether it was an actual overheat, which this wasn't, or just a game crash.

[lawgone]

You mean a critical analysis of the situation before reacting and spewing venom on the internets? Ah, wouldn't it be nice... :)

[robert]

they did not show the peace of the video where the guys smothered the air vents with plastic bags.

[DoubleM70]

Oh stop it PS4 fanboys. The Xbox fanboys are fucking with you guys. Why you all getting so bent out of shape? Guess what I bet you it's going to freeze up after you purchase one to. O yeah and that goes for Xbox 1 also. It does make me wonder why the PS4 didn't have a tour like Xbox 1 is doing.

[Stevino123]

These are demo units, of course they are going to have complications. There is no way they would let that happen and would most definitely look into it. But, I mean really, People like up for hours trying to play it, why wouldn't it overheat?

[Garethvk]

Do not forget Operation Blacklight as a Download that is a fun shooter and Infamous: Second Son is not far off as well.

[Ashunderfire86]

When I was at E3 the screen went blue, when it was my turn to play Knack on PS4. The game developers fix the issue that only took a few minutes. Its the game not the system guys.

[Silly gameAr]

Try hards. Can't believe after like about 3 of the same articles have been approved, people still give this attention. They are trying hard to find that negative PS4 stuff and people flip out over the smallest thing.

[InSpectre]

The person who submitted this story is probably an Xbox astroturfer. They joined N4G less than 3 weeks ago. It seems everyone fell for their little trap.

http://n4g.com/user/home/la...

"Xbox one day one for me."

"I'll steal my cousin ps4 next year. i ain't buying [a PS4]. lol"
--Lalanana

[GearsOfWar]

And your point is? I'd say more than half the negative X1 articles submitted to N4G are by Sony fanboys. That doesn't make the articles any less credible according to people like yourself.

Why is it okay to let it happen one way, but not the other? Lol

What's that story you guys always bring up? Oh! That's right. I remember now:

"Microsoft fanboys were mean to us years and years ago, so we're going to hold a grudge and never let them live it down."

To be honest, you guys better start praying this isn't a hardware issue. You claimed karma was a bitch all this year, it would be really unfortunate for all the bad karma you've racked up recently to come to reality.

Sleep easy, guize. :)

[ShwankyShpanky]

"That doesn't make the articles any less credible according to people like yourself."

What makes this article "less credible" is the fact that there is no evidence of overheating.

Don't need to "pray" it isn't a hardware issue... the console kept functioning and re-loaded the game with no problem.

[GearsOfWar]

It's a month until launch. If one of the two consoles are freezing, I'm pretty sure it should be reported on.

What more credibility do you need? There's a video of a PS4 having freezing issues during gameplay. Overheating was a potential reason for the freezing. The update even states it was in a closed box. Do I know if it overheated? Nope. Should it be reported on in case other incidents happen? I think so.

Software could also definitely be the problem and would be my guess as to the cause in this incident. I can't really prove it other than with common sense. If the version is an early build, then yes I expect there to be complications with the software at that point.

What I'm saying is it would be quite the show if indeed the rumors of PS4s overheating were true. It would be sad to see it at the expense of Sony and innocent customers/fans, but to be honest, I'd rather enjoy the tables turning on all the fanboys who decided to take their trolling to new extremes. I'm embarrassed to even know about the Toys R Us fiasco. I mean, was it really THAT big of a deal PS4 wasn't in the top 15? -.-

Not even sure why I bother commenting. The majority of the Sony fanboys are hypocrites ready to twist an argument, spec, rumour, or fact into their own deluded sense of a reality. Anything and everything to have the very best over anyone else. It's grade school level stuff and it keeps bringing the reputation of the overall gaming community down. There are fanboys, and then there are you guys. Lol.

Like I said. Hopefully this is a simple software error and not a hardware issue, or the next year might not be so fun for you guys, all things considering.

[Chevalier]

Sony hasn't really had any major issues with overheating like MS RROD so doubt it'll be an issue. Also yeah it is sad that fans made that whole Toys R Us blow up. Whatever it's pretty clear PS4 is going to decimate competition this Christmas regardless of which list it's on or not it will be on the only list that matters and that's topsellers list on every major retailers list this year.

[ShwankyShpanky]

"There's a video of a PS4 having freezing issues during gameplay."

Someone wants to report on a freeze, fine, whatever.

"Overheating was a potential reason for the freezing."

Not really, considering that *the console keeps running and re-loads the game with no problem.*

"Not even sure why I bother commenting. The majority of the Sony fanboys are hypocrites ready to twist an argument, spec, rumour, or fact into their own deluded sense of a reality."

Poor persecuted Xbone. This "article" is the definition of "twisting a fact into a deluded sense of reality."

[GearsOfWar]

I suggest you look up the symptoms for overheating. The console doesn't always just stop working. Things start slowing down/glitching. If it was overheating, it's still very possible for the UI to be working, but running a game could be more complicated.

:)

[ShwankyShpanky]

"I suggest you look up the symptoms for overheating. The console doesn't always just stop working. Things start slowing down/glitching."

And yet the UI ran smoothly and the game was quickly reloaded. Overheating affects all processes, not just the game.

[TechMech2]

If ps4 has any issues, I'd assume it would be with playstation network crashing, because Sony never really had too much of a stable network. I'm sure the hardware on the other hand will probably be just fine.

[TheMailman]

Just one word: FUD

[TheGrimReaper0011]

God, I am glad I decided to wait.
I seriously dont know what to believe anymore!
I am just going to sit back and watch and choose whats best
I was going to pick up ps4, but wanna know if the purchase will be worth it
Else, im just gonna invest in heavy pc rig

[bligmerk]

You folks do know this has an update? Which makes even less sense. It says the PS4 was put in a closed box and it operated fine after that.

The big question here is who is letting these idiots have PS4 units early and somehow they are all getting the idea to run the PS4 in a closed, unventilated box? There is something truly bizarre going on here behind these european posts.

[Someonerandom]

LOL, misleading video is misleading.
The PS4 was clearly a debug unit and it was inside a freaking box.
It was quite obvious that it would overheat.
Some of you really need to read more carefully.

[Blood_Syphon]

So a recent article had a photo-shopped PS4 with a red light on it was confirmed false and now we get this today? There was an article over a month ago claiming the PS4 runs cooler than the PS3 did and the PS3 had no issues.
Lets face it the only people dumb enough to believe this crap are the xbox fans that faced negative article after negative article and are trying to grasp what little ounce of negativity they can for the PS4.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

More hit bait drama.

[x_RadicalAura_x]

Freezing ≠ Overheating (always). It could've been entirely a software issue, for all we know. Once again, journalists trying to blow things out of proportion to steal the headlines.

[HeroReborn]

Let me first start off by saying yes I'm getting a X1, but that does not mean I'm a Sony basher. When I first saw the PS4 I was extremely skeptical of the design, not because it looked bad, but because the power source was internal, and my biggest question was how will they despite the thermal heat from converting AC to DC.

[ShwankyShpanky]

All the PS3 models manage just fine.

[HeroReborn]

Wow that took a lot to actually find this to reply to they really need to refine the system, but anyways I agree that the bigger PS3 didn't have those issues it's possible don't get me wrong. Form a engineering stand point not a big fan of it

[AD705]

So a game bugging out means freezing up even though they could still use it after the alleged "freeze up?"

Seriously 360 fanboys are blowing this out of proportion. Besides anyone find it ironic that 360 fanboys are bashing the ps4 for overheating issues even though the 360's overheating problems led to it being the most faulty console of all time?

[ziggurcat]

It's a manufactured problem in that xbox fanboys seem to think that an electronic device enclosed in a plexiglass case for an extended period of time = overheating issues with the hardware.

[SwiftArsonist]

damage controlling lol

[bligmerk]

What those morons did was equivalent to jamming a potato up a car exhaust, then laughing when the car stops running.

It says a lot about the PS4 that even running in a box with no ventilation, a buggy beta game could be made to freeze but the UI still came up faster than lightning.

[KillrateOmega]

I sounds like the issue was with the game, not the system itself...

[toddybad]

I doubt very much that there is anything to worry about.
But if there was it would be piss-funny!

[theFLeXy]

LOL at the absolute idiot that wrote this article. the system (ps4) did not freeze, or else he would not have been able to bring up the system's menu screen. the video of the game was glitchy/buggy....had nothing to do with the ps4 overheating. xbros will disregard common sense just to have something to complain about....even if it isn't based in reality lol

[sibbor]

Yeah, exactly. Kinda sad that the author of the article use the term "overheated", since that's not the case. The article is twisted.
Even the YouTube video they're using is messed up. Here, have a look at the full video - showing how they restarts the game and continue to play KNACK smoothly:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

After playing KNACK for a couple of minutes the dude switches to PDM (without existing KNACK) and continue walking us through the PDM, its features. He connects to the Internet and even starts the browser. The system is 100% stable and KNACK is running in the background.

[theFLeXy]

yeah, the system clearly had nothing wrong with it and it was simply the knack gameplay being buggy

[kewlkat007]

Sh!t happens..

[robotgargoyle]

Did they put it in a full enclosure to prevent someone from stealing it?

From my experience, electronics in enclosed spaces can overheat.

[madpuppy]

talk about reaching....this is a really sad attempt at a smear campaign.

[Mister_G]

Agreed!

Some people trying to spread F.U.D. again, sigh!

[Rageanitus]

we can only find out when the console comes out to the masses.

I love how ppl love to assume or PREDICT things even before it comes out.

Just like the power of both consoles. Let's just wait and see in the next 6> 12 months

[plsburydoughboy]

Hey guys, I wrote that. I can't thank you enough for posting it, Lalanana! Appreciate all the feedback. Sorry if the wording isn't quite accurate, but really, I wanted to draw attention of this to Sony so that they could clear the air.

We've been hearing stories of PS4 having problems for a while now, and Yoshida was quick to address some earlier concerns but not this one. And I do bring up that this is just a demo, but that won't dispel everyone's concerns. I'm sure you all remember Playstation 3's overheating woes, and that happens to have been designed by Cerny too.

Ultimately, I was hoping Sony would clear it up themselves if I drew attention to it.

I am updating that post with Gamekyo's tweets.

[ShwankyShpanky]

"Sorry if the wording isn't quite accurate"

That's an odd euphemism for "totally wrong and misleading." There is no indication that the console overheated.

"We've been hearing stories of PS4 having problems for a while now"

Really? Care to link?

"I'm sure you all remember Playstation 3's overheating woes"

I think you spelled "Xbox 360" wrong.

[KingDadXVI]

That's ok. I should work just fine in places like Canada and Siberia where you can place the ps4 near an open window. LOL.

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

that wasn't really funny... like, at all.

[corvusmd]

Did anyone else notice ANOTHER commercial for PS4 that had nothing to do with gameplay? (and it's another bad one...the one about PS4 being late to the party) I only bring it up cause when XB1 did their commercial as a joint venture with NFL showing off their exclusive commitment to each other...every PS fanboy flipped out that there was no gameplay cause XB1 was just a tv device....where are these kids for the last three PS4 commercials? At least the XB1 commercial wasn't weak. Maybe Taco Bell is showing off it's exclusive features on PS4 making kids late to the party on PS4. Hate all you want...you've already shown your un-backed bias...anything you say is pointless.

[denawayne]

I'm with you on this one

[SEAN1617]

ANOTHER SEALED BOX .... Way to go!

[Adolph Fitler]

Killzone:SF
Watchdogs
Driveclub
Knack (For me, screw the kids,they have Wii)
BF4
COD:Ghosts

[Derajcan2]

and thats sony for you, xbox one will shine, 360 ended great, and xbox one will carry on

[Mister_G]

Damn! I was going to put my PS4 inside a sealed box, there goes that plan :-\

/s

[kingPoS]

Quick question? What happens when hot air is recycled back into a unit, forcing it to operate in an warmer inviroment than designed for?

I wish my PS3 would give a heads up like PS4 appears to.

[SaulGoodman]

Anyone who plays their video games in a sealed glass box better be bubble boy. This is definitely a "worst/best N4G story of the year" qualifier.

[TheKayle1]

i dont think the box could be sealed and i dont trust it was in a box at all...i think this site is doing damage control for sony

[DoggyBiscuit]

Is like n4g like to shit on every console

[Jdoki]

If there's one thing I know for sure; it's that every single incident of an X1 or PS4 overheating, failing, or having some some problem is going to be made in to some shit storm 'news' story.

Lets wait and see if either console has issues once it's in millions of consumers hands before jumping the gun.

EDIT: I also love this whole 'red line of death' that some idiots are trying to coin. At least come up with something original. Y'know, like the Red Line of Operating Outside of Manufacturer Recommended Temperature Limits Temporary Shut Down Inconvenience (RLoOOoMRTLTSDI)

[Dorwrath]

This should be interesting if they freeze up or show the red light cause it got to hot in an enclosed box, how will the displays at walmart hold up. All the walmarts in our area have consoles locked in glass boxes.

[ic3fir3]

ps4 its so power, menu freeze lool
xbox one> suckstation 4

[TheKayle1]

and what if a person have to put it in a closed wood forniture(with a glass door)..--under the tv....freezing every game?...this dont sound good..sony..