Wii U Has More Next-Gen 1080p 60fps Games Than Xbox One, PS4

Gaming Blend "Flameproof jockstrap activated: While a lot of fanboys have been clamoring around the Wii U like a wounded puppy, waiting to pounce like a jackal from the shadows, they have missed out on one very important facet of this supposedly underpowered console: It has more native 1080p 60fps games than the Xbox One or PS4."

[Shok]

What a brave journalist to make an article like this lol.

Godspeed sir, godspeed.

[-Foxtrot]

He's brave but stupid

He does realise the Wii U will have a year headstart by the time the PS4 and Xbox One come out. I understand if they were all coming out at the same time but I don't think you can do comparisons like this when they released at different times

So yeah I kind of expect it to have more 1080p - 60fps games and I'm glad it does

EDIT: For those who disagreed, please explain your reasons. Why am I wrong? Is it because you have a legit reason to counter my argument or because you hate anyone criticizing Nintendo in any way. Come on it's had a year head start it SHOULD have more 108-p-60fps games.

[_QQ_]

PS4/XBOXone are too close to PC architecture to use the "we need time to learn the system" excuse. I'm sure it will get better but not by much.

What you are seeing on PS4 xone now is how games will look for a while.

Now obviously PS4/XONE are stronger than Wiiu, its just funny how so many people were saying WIIU isn't a nextgen system because it couldn't do 1080/60fps, now everyone is trying to damage control it now that ps4/xone can't do it without compromises.

[Amplitude]

exactly. May as well make an article "WII U HAS MORE GAMES THAN THE PS4 AND XBOX ONE"

[KUV1977]

Also it may have more games that tick the technical specs of 1080p and 60fps but how many games that do look better does it have?

[guitarded77]

The only true comparison will be when all 3 are out, and a comparison is made for a game on all 3 systems like Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs, etc. Until then, it's just random numbers. I'm positive the games that run 1080p 60fps on Wii U could be run just as well on the PS4 and/or XBOX One.

[iamnsuperman]

@Axecution

That is the most valid argument here. I bloody well hope the Wii U has more 60fps 1080p titles than the Xbox One and PS4 which have yet to release. The Wii U has had a year head start. It would be bad if it didn't

[BBBirdistheWord]

@KUV1977

SO what you are saying is that some games, even though they may technically be 1080p 60fps still do not look as good as some other games which do not tick that requirement?
Interesting.

Has anyone told the fanboys?

[-Foxtrot]

@lopez_josue

"I'm sure it will get better but not by much."

The PS4 and the Xbox One will get better over time you'll be a fool not to think that. Look at the start of this gen, I thought FOR EXAMPLE Resistance Fall of Man looked amazing and now looking back at the end of this gen thanks to games like the Last of Us, God of War 3, Killzone 3 and even multiplatform games like Bioshock, Tomb Raider and even Assassins Creed I'm like "Man....you've aged". That's alright though because it shows you that as time went on developers managed to get better over time when back then you didn't think they could. Imaging if you could show yourself back in 2006 The Last of Us your past self would be like "FAKE....nothing could look like that".

I mean the sad thing about the Wii U is they are "trying" to gain third party support but even now they are loosing it because of the stupid way they are running things (thanks Iwata). They've had a year head start to establish themselves and the console before the PS4 and Xbox One come out but they failed....and the sad thing is that in a years time like the one year headstart the Wii U got, the PS4 and the Xbox One are going to have some FANTASTIC looking games, especially multiplatform. Third party games devs won't want on Wii U and not because they don't want to but most likely because they can't, if they don't want to dumb the game down so the Wii U can handle it.

So yeah they will get better it's inevitable

[Shok]

It's true, the Wii U has had a year's headstart, BUT, at the same time, Sony and Microsoft fans laughed at the Wii U and deemed it "last-gen" based off of it's LAUNCH titles as well.

But it's funny now how since the Xbox One and PS4 don't have that many 1080p 60 fps retail exclusives, all the sudden we have to wait for devs to get used to the hardware, although:

1) That's the same logic that the Nintendo fanbase used for the Wii U, and yet they denied that.

2) These systems are made to emulate PC's, using x86 architecture and easy to use GPU's. Not to mention Mark Cerny constantly emphasized "Awesome Day 1 performance."

Again, you're totally completely right, I'm just saying it's ironic and funny now how Sony/MS fans are now using the same arguments they FOUGHT AGAINST.

[GTgamer]

PS4/Xone can run any WiiU game with ease so this argument is pointless and the WiiU competing against current gen and we both know they losing that battle big time.

[KUV1977]

@BBBirdistheWord

Unfortunately no. I am a little annoyed by the sheer focus on numbers. Artwork over tech! Artwork supported by great tech is obviously the best you can get. Most gamers will never know whether a game is 900p or 1080p unless some website makes an analysis and suddenly everyone has always known. I very much prefer 900p/30fps with awesome looks over bland 1080p/60fps and I fear a little that devs feel obligated to deliver 1080p/60fps and will reduce graphical fidelity in order to achieve those numbers. I am a SONY fan but I couldn't care less if a game like Ryse has 900p or 1080p. I think it looks great. The WiiU will also have great looking games and I did not want to say they all look bad compared to PS4/XOne. I just find it annoying to compare visuals by numbers alone.

[s45gr32]

Is easier to make a current generation game on the wii u run at 1080p 60 frames per second. For example what is easier to run at 1080p 60 frames per second a 2.5 dimensional game like New Super Mario Bros U or say something like Watchdogs. That's my point take it or leave it

[_QQ_]

At the very least if CRYTEK ,the experts on PC architecture, can't pull of 1080p60fps on xone without compromise then i doubt the xone will see major improvements unless the cloud isn't just BS. the ps4 not being too far off from xone looks like it will be able to pull of 1080/60 on linear games, we still have to see for Open world games.

[LonChaneyTV]

"Wii U Has More Next-Gen 1080p 60fps Games Than Xbox One, PS4"

"sigh", yeah see this is why the 1080p native argument makes no sense.

It's the technology involved that should be compared. you could produce hundreds of games at 1080p 60 fps nowadays, but how many of them will be pushing for next gen features like HBAO and tessellation.

It becomes a baseless argument when all you're thinking about is a frame buffer and disregarding 90% of the other technology involved.

[Concertoine]

well if the wii u did come out this november, it would still have more 1080p 60 fps games coming. the reason it hasn't gotten any is because people are just porting last gen games and nintendo's only made a party game, a 2d platformer and a game that started development on the wii.
still, people were saying the system was weaker than a 360 back when it came out, and they were in the majority too. you can spin it however, but the fact that the wii u is ouputting games that easily outclass the last gen in better resolution and framerate, and the fact that it's doing that in its youth, gives us something to look forward to in the wii u's later lifespan.

[President]

What a stupid article, Mario Kart 8 and Smash are not 1080p.

[RTheRebel]

Damage Control Already?lulz

[AKR]

I find it quite funny that you and many others are now all up in arms like: "Well it's been out for a year - it should!"

Yet, so many of you have been booing the system because it's, and I quote: "Not nextgen."

[-Foxtrot]

All those disagrees for stating a legit reason behind why this article is silly and not one person has managed to come up with a good counter argument. I mean I don't think you can because it's just how it is, a console getting a head start obviously will have more 1080p-60fps then consoles not even out yet.

Hell I'm scanning through the comments of people giving better reasons then me and even ones which roughly say the same and the same thing is happening. Why can't people admit it. It's like the main concern of N4G, people who usualy say off topic, silly crap get Well Said bubbles and stuff and the ones who state reasonable points end up getting voted down.

Seriously Nintendo fans are the worst, especially on here.

@AKR

"Yet, so many of you have been booing the system because it's, and I quote: "Not nextgen."

So resolution and FPS make define a game if it's "next gen" or not.

You know what...I'm done, I'm off to watch The Worlds End and eat some Hula Hoops

[EliteGameKnight]

@President

http://playeressence.com/e3...

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

um... yes they are.

[TheLastVoiceOFsanity]

the one & only reason a lot of ps4 & xbox one games aren't running in native 1080p 60fps is because sony & microsoft care more about graphics than resolution & frame rate. they are choosing to max out the gpu for higher graphics instead of just pushing the gpu as far as possible without lower the resolution , or frame rate.

[jivah]

My ps3 emulator is running at 1080/60..doesnt mean the anything cause it still looks like mud

[Dee_91]

@lopez_josue
Okay so since because they are "close" to the architecture to the PC there will be virtually no learning curve?
So many issues with that statement I will just summarize and say, you sir have no clue on how games are developed.Just because they are close doesn't mean they are parallel.

OT
My crappy 6 year old laptop can probably run 4 of those 5 games mentioned in the article at 1080p 60fps.

[badz149]

@BBBirdistheWord

"SO what you are saying is that some games, even though they may technically be 1080p 60fps still do not look as good as some other games which do not tick that requirement?"

a launch title for PS4, Resogun is 1080p 60fps. it totally looks better than all the Uncharted games combined which are all 720p on the PS3, right? /s

games with less details will be easier to get to 1080p 60fps. for example, I have a mid-range pc but I can totally play BF3 at 1440p at LOW setting. Upped the setting to HIGH and the game crawls!

1080p 60fps is not a feat only achievable by the Wii U as many games on PS3 and 360 achieved it too but most of the times they are low requirement games, graphically.

[N4g_null]

Its not a stupid article.

The api does a lot of sweet things like tessellation which was rumored and full gpgpu control, you can almost by past the cpu... free texture compression which is what the sram is for and im just skimming my notes. The framebuffer along is ready for it and it doesnt have to share cycles with an os that is watching you or recording you.

The xbone does have a good amount of sram yet the kinect will soak that all up. The ps4 power will be limited by recording features that will tie up those tasty teraflops. Then add the fact that we are talking about capturing true hd game play, so now it has to render the frame and then write itto memory or the hdd, that along is a flaw.... it will limit the already limited power of that gpu and the cpus for all these consoles sort of suck yet wait, ms and sony arr treating these chips like theyare i7 or i3s...

compression means your ram pool is only limited by what you can compress and stream or create procedurally. That along is the point of having a gpgpu...

then to add insult to injury the wiiu renders to two screen at all times and it can still pull this off. Dont believe me? Well sign up for your own kit... its all right there...

the fact is the features in the ps4 and xbone will limit what it can do, also more ram helps with debugging, good coding only needs 4 gig and with all of the compression the wiiu does you will see that ram amount become way faster that alarger amount. Its almost like putting gddr ram in a voodoo video card it wont matter.

This is not what we should be arguing about though.. as we should be waiting on the games we want to play. None of you have the kit in front of you and you dont know the full story. Unless you know offical specs then this argument can end now, its silly to claim the wiiu is not in this race. Like always we will let the coding and games do the talking.

[allgamespc2012]

except you know, xbox one wont go 1080p 60 fps, itll go one of them but not both, ps4 maybe but thats not guaranteed either so i dont see how you think next gen games are going to do 60 fps 1080p native.

[cell989]

um... theres not a single WiiU game out there that can match the xbone or PS4 visuals, sure they run at 1080p 60FPS but none of those crunch physics and polygons as good as the true next gen consoles, remember people the WiiU is competing with the PS3/360 get the facts straight

[N4g_null]

On top of it foxtrot no one knows the api on the wii fully... tessellation of all things is supported... just look at the trees in mk8 that is too smooth to be static and if it is nintendo has some unholy polygon crunchers in house?

all of the numbers are higher and stacked against the wiiu yet why is it able to pull off true hd? Why does higher spec machine need time when the wiiu didn't?

Did sony and ms use tech that was too close to pc tech? Why can the wiiu pull off dual screen gaming when most pcs can't and with a wireless transmission on top of that?

sounds like solid technology to me. It is possible we will see them all excel in their own ways, all I know is tech master on the wiiu might help the other two consoles, if ms and sony have similar solutions.

[N4g_null]

Nintendo problem is they are not good at bragging. ?. Even their tech docs dont exspose every thing... like crytek some thing tells me factor 5 could have made this one sing. I think we all know even if nintendo had the same box as sony many here would think it was inferior. Shutters at all the ps2 is more powerful claims... so much bad information.

[theizzzeee]

It is a fair critique for this reason. The Wii U is supposedly so underpowered compared to the PS4 and XBOX One. They should do everything the Wii U does with ease. The supposed vast power difference makes it a fair critique.

[Shnazzyone]

It is something for the people considering buying Xbox one and PS4 on day 1. It's going to be a bit until those systems catch up and they will be at the highest price point of those system's lifecycle. You could get a wii U and have lots to play and wait for drops in price on those systems and a more robust catalog to justify the purchase.

[Ju]

This makes me lol again. Might as well say the PS3 has more 1080@60 games than the PS4. BTW. That Rayman game is one of them. What does that tell us? Riiiidddgggeeee Raaaccer!

[mikeslemonade]

Wii U is current gen. It shouldn't even be part of the conversation.

Now just like people have said above me. 360 and PS3 have more 1080p games than Wii U.

[Thevariance]

This argument is pointless. It is not 'that'something is running at 1080p 60fps, but rather 'what' is running at 1080p 60fps. We are therefore comparing apples with oranges. Possibly very textured, high polygon apples, with little texture low polygon oranges.

[DrJones]

One years headstart is not the reason. The Wii U games are not as graphically advanced as the PS4 Xbox One games and can therefore afford 1080p resolutions in some games. Since the graphical bar is set so much higher on ps4 xbox one, achieving that resolution can sometimes prove difficult. That's why you got some of the disagrees. One years headstart has nothing to do with it.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Resolution and FPS doesn't equal polygon count. Nintendo could re-release an old Nintendo 64 game where everything looked pointy at 1080P and 60FPS, and Capcom could release another 8-bit, 1080P, 60FPS Mega Man sequel. It doesn't mean that the respective games are pushing out cutting edge looking graphics with an obscene amount of polygons to the point where the graphics look photo-realistic.

[zero_gamer]

Yeah...a year earlier everyone on this site bashed the Wii U for having native 720p games, but today as of this article the Wii U hate agenda just got warped for their convenience.

N4G as usual.

[PopRocks359]

@Foxtrot

Your reasoning is stupid.

Everyone based their opinion of the Wii U's overall capabilities based on its launch lineup, but suddenly we're told to wait for PS4/Xbox One. Don't give me this "it SHOULD have blablahblah" BS when everyone was saying that at the Wii U's launch and ever since.

Why the hell SHOULD gamers wait? These systems are supposed to be hella powerful, right? They are based on PC architecture and easier to make games on, right? So why the hell are developers not taking advantage of it?

I'll tell you why; because development TAKES TIME. Time no one gave to the Wii U but were more than ready to bend over and take in for their favorite brand that wasn't Nintendo or a PC-centric company. Go figure.

The fact is Wii U is running more 1080p 60FPS games than the so-called super powerful consoles meant to blow it straight out of the water. Proven fact. And of course, the reverse damage control ensues.

[ion53]

The thing is, Wii I doesn't do super poly counts, and high res textures. It has the same textures, maybe a bit more, that the Wii, they just boosted the res, and upped the FPS. PS4 and XbOne is having to deal with more than just a 2D space, or a 3D space with shitty textures (Wind Waker 'HD'). I was expecting that game to look closer to Black Flag TBH. May I also add PS4 is doing lots of physics...

[GordonKnight]

I don't know a lot about this, but shouldn't both of the so called true next gen consoles have all their games in 1080P - 60fps.

How can they support 4K if the launch titles aren't even in 1080p?

[malokevi]

You are all completely insane.

Like the developers have been repeating for weeks, while nobody listened... 1080P 60FPS IS A DESIGN CHOICE! There will always be a trade-off. No hardware is perfect. Not even PS4. If you want to maximize certain visual elements of a game, you have to make sacrifices in other avenues.

People expecting 1080p native 60FPS + all the visual flourish we expect, especially at this point in the console lifestyle, are a bunch of monkeys.

[iplay1up2]

What cam can I say. I agreed with you, but there are so many immature fanboys on here they can't accept anything positive about any system accept their preferred system. That is what seperates a true gamer from a immature fanboy. It is irritating. I have owned and played multiple game systems since 1982, because I like games. Fanboys suck!
This Gen I am a PC/Wii U/PS4 kinda guy. No real interest in XBO for many reasons, and not to mention I only have so much time to play games.

[boneso82]

So 8 years after Ridge Racer 7 (1080p/60fps), Nintendo start releasing their first 1080p/60fps games, way to keep ahead of the times Ninty!

Ps: most wiiU games could easily run on ps3/360, I've seen nothing that would push them technically.

[CuddlyREDRUM]

The Wii U isn't next gen, period.

Don't worry, it is just the Internet man.

[triforce79]

Look WiiU has the most 1080p/60fps games and thats a fact get used to it Bayonetta and MK8 are 2 that i will buy day 1,and when gamers see them 2 games finished they wont be thinking wiiu has inferior graphics that's for sure more like better graphics because in native 1080p at 60fps that is twice the resolution of 720p what most ps4 and xbox1 games run at ????

[Sono421]

I don't.... understand? I thought from a hardware standpoint the Wii U was weaker? Not just that the launch games didn't "look" that amazing but that the confirmed specs didn't even match Xbox One... I could be wrong though? somebody please clear this up with me. I'm confused how a console with weaker specs can pull off 60fps and 1080p but the Xbox One is struggling and a couple PS4 games can't.

[malokevi]

@Sono

BECAUSE RESOLUTION AND FRAME-RATE ISN'T EVERYTHING.

I can't believe that you people are seriously having this discussion, and scratching your heads. We KNOW from countless developers that the WiiU is more on par with current gen systems than next-gen systems... so are you suddenly going to ignore that and put the WiiU as the next-gen technological marvel, simply because it's capable of rendering games of lower graphical fidelity at a higher framerate? Holy Jesus mother of god in hell heaven and on earth!

If res/FR were everything, then by that logic playing duckhunt at 1080p 60FPS would be "next gen"... which makes no sense. The PS3 could do 1080p 60FPS... does that make it next gen, too?

Some times I feel like this site is riddled with teenagers and country bumpkins who are completely incapable of critical thinking. Hell, I don't think it, I KNOW IT.

[ZHZ90]

Man I am gonna watch PS4/X1 Vs WiiU debate.

I agree with what Foxtrot says.

[Beastforlifenoob]

Holy shit guys
Obviously a sytem with a 3 core cpu with 2gb of ram running at 17Gb/s DESTROYS a beast with 8 cores cpu with 8GB of GDDR5 RAM running at 178 gb/s. Not to mention the far superior online features and third party games.

LOL!!!! He's comparing apples with fucking basalt rocks.

[Moncole]

It depends who sees this. This article doesn't bother me because I dont care but many people on this site would get mad because they are fanboys. People on 4chan would love this because they hate Sony and PC gamers wont care.

[Sono421]

4chan anti sony? what? lol is there some other 4chan I don't know about?

[triforce79]

WiiU like Shinen says uses edram for bandwidth and the 2GB of system ram has to be small for the hardware to sing just like Microsoft said or was it Sony ? anyway system RAM isn't a bottle neck against xbox1 or ps4 because you have Nextgen Havok compression x10 in the devkits so that debate is very cheap,now WiiU has by far the best chip RAM and cache and thats what makes for better graphics end of not tons of system RAM or tons of crap jaguar cores,wiiu's cores are much more powerful ie why you only have 3 and you have edram cache which is the future of IBM cpu cores because it doubles the power of the cpu work it out......

One more thing Shinen said 16MB of edram nets you 1080p native and wiiu has 36MB and a rumoured another 32MB in that 30% of unknown hardware ????? wiiu can hit high resolutions..

[noctis_lumia]

bubble for this comment of yours made me laugh and the best part is that you r right lolololololol

[JsonHenry]

Dumb down the graphics enough and any game can run 1080p/60fps.

[nukeitall]

Which tells you what?

That resolution and frame rate is only a small part of the equation. So why are we so hung up on the holy grail of 1080p and 60fps?

[JsonHenry]

^^ Resolution certainly helps with overall visual fidelity but I agree. I'd rather play a game with the visuals turned way up and a lower rez than the other way around.

[jcnba28]

Now Wii U graphics are dumbed down?

Talk about damage control lol

[LonChaneyTV]

"Dumb down the graphics enough and any game can run 1080p/60fps. "

correct, and that statement can also backfire on next gen consoles too. If you want battlefield 4, 5 and 6 at 1080p 60 fps you will simply need a PC.

[webeblazing]

so now gfx matter more than the res its in lets take a look at every rise and bf4 article

[MEsoJD]

exactly!

[Hicken]

I can't quite agree.

Unless you think it makes sense to compare the libraries of consoles that haven't released yet to the library of one that's been out nearly a year.

A better comparison would be 1080p 60fps games available at launch. Well, a more even comparison, anyway. Since NONE of the Wii U's qualifying games were out at the time, it wouldn't even line up at the starting block.

[nukeitall]

I think the point here is that resolution and frame rate doesn't speak of the quality behind each pixel!

Who knows, the Xbox 360 and PS3 might have more native 1080p games than next generation.

[Yep]

My thoughts exactly.

[Beastforlifenoob]

3 core cpu with 2gb DDR3 ram @17gb/s

VS

8 core cpu with 8GB GDDR5 Ram @176GB/s

Now lets compare GAMES battlefield 4?o elder scrolls online? fifa 14? nba2k14/live 14? Destiny? Dragon age inquistion? Thief?Dying Light? Metal Gear Solid V? The division? Sniper elite V3? The evil within? Wolfenstein the new order? Yeah WII u is less power with less games.

Nice, fucking nice!

[dale_denton]

yeah making mario and zelda running on 1080p 60fps is really that hard.

[Magicite]

I wouldn't call Wii U games a ''next-gen''.

[R00bot]

Why not?

Power has nothing to do with the generations, and if it does; it says right there that the Wii U has more games running in 1080p 60fps than the other "next-gen" consoles.

Get over this whole Wii U hate thing.

[DevilishSix]

Power has nothing to do with new generations? Are you high? Of course power has everything to do with new generations of consoles cause if it didn't there would be no need for a new console at all. New consoles equal new tech and more power. Wii U is more powerful than the Wii enough said.

[zebramocha]

@shok you are very wrong with the ps4 trying to emulate a pc architecture,mark cerny talked about using a updated cell but scrapped in favor of easy dev time,that being x86 CPU.

[Thatguy-310]

He's clamoring about games that aren't even release yet and hd remakes ? In that case he should expand the list for ps4 games

[Mystogan]

It shows that 1080p 60fps does not automatically mean better visuals to those PSfanboys..

[miyamoto]

Ahem! Ahem...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[bacrec1]

Blast these fanboys with the truth! I love it.

[corrus]

The only games that are 1080p 60FPS are nes games from the virtual console

[link2Dpast]

On this day there was a , a hero, no a legend. Great article. For all the trolls im renting out a bridge only requirement is being illogical . Most of you qualify.

[BullyMangler]

but is bayonetta 2 even 1080p?

thats what matters, bayonetta . . the most BIBLICA PROVOCATIVE video game in the history of gaming. Freaking NIntendo, always snagging the BEST grafix, audio, gameplay, controls, comfort, prices, presentations, ages of re-play value << and to finish it off, they always with the most INVENTIVE Adult Video Game exclusives in the industry . .

sony could not see bayonetta's gameplay, all they could see was the SALES . . how twisted .

lol microsoft

[SonyNGP]

*grabs popcorn*

[bayonetta]

Can i have some ? =D

[die_fiend]

How can wii u have any next gen titles?

[RexFury]

Why can't it? It is a next-gen console....so in theory, every title that is created for the Wii U is classified as next gen (excluding HD remixes and stuff like that).

Please don't respond by saying "the Wii U is not next-gen" because the word "generation" is based on time, not hardware development.

[GTgamer]

Far as I'm concerned wiiu is competing against current gen consoles and its getting its ass whopped day by day.

[Salooh]

It is next generation compared to wii but you can't go and compare it to consoles that have at least 4 times the power it have. It's just not reasonable. Ps4 and X1 can run any Wii U game at 1080p and 60fps easily. So that doesn't mean it's better then X1 and PS4.

[RexFury]

@GTgamer. What's that got to do with anything? I really don't understand what that has to do with anything I said above.

8th generation = Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3 (2005-current)

9th generation = Wii U, Xbox One and PS4 (2012- who knows?)

It isn't rocket science people!

[cell989]

its not a next gen console remember that. Just because it came out a year ago does not mean its next gen, when it can push Battlefield 4, Infamous or Ryse the way the next gen consoles do, come back at me

[Hicken]

Right and wrong. Generations are both technological AND chronological. 5th generation iPhone, for example.

Chronologically, the Wii U is part of the 8th generation of consoles. Technologically, it's ahead of the 7th generation, but behind the 8th generation.

See, until last gen, the two concepts were pretty much concurrent: the new consoles weren't all that different, technologically, and came out at roughly the same time. But last generation, the Wii bucked that trend, being only a slight technological improvement over its predecessor, while the PS3 and 360 were more considerable upgrades.

That has carried over to the eighth generation, as well(not the ninth, as you've stated). So, now, the Wii U is chronologically a part of the 8th gen, but the technology on display in it is not in the same league as its competition.

So yes, it IS next gen.

But no, it ISN'T.

[MartinGlow]

Because it is next gen?

Really, can you not count? What does generation stand for? Can't think of lineage or something? Grandfather is first generation, father is next gen. You come along, you're the following generation. Your children? The next generation.

So, what was Wii then? Because it wasn't competing graphically against 360/PS3, was it considered the previous gen? No. Wii U is better than 360/PS3, but came out a year before PS4 and X1. Would you be implying that 360 was not next gen, even though it was better than previous gen, when it came out because it came out a year before PS3/Wii? No.

7th gen = Gamecube, Xbox, PS2
8th gen = Wii, 360, PS3
9th gen = Wii U, X1, PS4.

Simple.

[PopRocks359]

Very simple indeed. However, the internet is still ripe with people either too stupid or too ignorant to understand that no matter what way you look at it, Wii U belongs in the category of generation 8 console.

[RexFury]

Exactly. I just don't understand why a lot of people cannot get this simple fact into their head. It really is not that hard to understand!

[RobbyGrob]

The problem is that the Wii U games aren't fun regardless of resolution as we've already played them before..

[_QQ_]

so infamous,uncharted, killzone and gran turismo won't be fun because we have played it before?

@ Mr.Castle Xenoblade, Wonderful 101,Last Story,and pandora's tower aren't new ip's now?Pikmn3 might as well be treated like a new IP as its a the third installment in the series after more than 10 years. Same goes for KID ICARUS.

[MrCastle]

Some of us have been playing Zelda and Mario games for 15 years. And the biggest title releases on the Wii-U so far....A new Mario game and a Zelda HD remake. Its time for a new IP to rise. Too bad RARE had to take their excellence to Xbox.

[MrCastle]

I wouldn't call any of those big releases guy. Zelda is the biggest thing to happen to the Wii-U yet and the game is around 10 years old. Rehashed in real HD.

[RobbyGrob]

First of all; if the games you mentioned were the only good games that were gonna be released for PS4, you could bet that it wouldn't sell as well either. Why? Because of all the amazing NEW games that people know are coming. Better versions of the old games isn't enough for people anymore. We want new experiences. People are more interested in the PS4 and XB1 over the Wii U not because they necessarily are better products (which they in technical terms may be anyway), but because they know that very impressive new IPs that are going to give them entirely new experiences are coming for them.

The IPs you mentioned aren't system-sellers. They don't convey much to people who aren't already Nintendo fans, and who thus already have the console. Neither of the games you mentioned interest me, regardless of their quality. I can't really explain why, but considering my experiences with every stationary Nintendo console up to the Wii, games released for Nintendo's consoles convey a sense of similarity to each other, and to childhood. Even if a bad-ass FPS or action adventure was released on the Wii U i'm sure i'd still hate it because it would have been "Nintendonized"; stripped of its adulthood and uniqueness. It's like every game released for the PS3 would feel similar to Ratchet and Clank. People would hate them. Not because they hate Ratchet and Clank, but because most people don't like getting the same feeling from game to game. Show me a dark and difficult game like Demon's Souls on a Nintendo console and i'll show you my leopard underwear.

It always surprises me how people can keep defending something that clearly isn't very popular. It's not like your opinion on the Wii U are going to change its low sales figures anyway. Its sales figures are incredibly low. Especially for being a Nintendo product. And it's that low FOR A REASON.

Re-hashing and re-making is different from innovation. Mario and Zelda are always gonna be Mario and Zelda because Nintendo want them to be that way. That means that they are relying on new generations of gamers picking up one of their consoles. They know that their adult fans will eventually move on, and they seemingly don't even try to keep them.

Like MrCastle said, adult gamers today grew up with Nintendo's games. We played several different games in the Mario and Zelda series and many other series on Nintendo consoles long before the first PlayStation was even released. We've already played Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus, Pikmin and Animal Crossing. Today's versions of these games aren't amazing new innovations. They're re-makes of old system-sellers intended for new gamers who HAVEN'T played the old versions. And Nintendo have been riding this wave for a dastardly long time now.

People don't buy consoles for a couple of favorite oldies. They want to be sure to get entirely new experiences for years to come. And Nintendo certainly aren't reknowned for that. They're reknowned for improving on the old. Nintendo believes that new experiences equals to updated accessories and games that take use of them accordingly. Most adult gamers don't belong in either of those groups.

I'm extremely grateful for what Nintendo has given me. Most of the best experiences i've ever had was provided by them. But they need to grow up with me if they want to keep me. Sony and Microsoft have finally undoubtedly surpassed Nintendo thanks to a breathtaking amount of new IPs that have hit record after record. Nintendo as a company is quickly becoming obsolete. They need to adapt to the world to survive, like every company that ever existed.

[_QQ_]

@ robbygrob. i'm not saying those games would justify a console purchase because thats obviously subjective, i'm saying that just because a game is part of a franchise doesn't mean it won't be fun.... Wiiu will have plenty of new games too...
LOL defending somthing that isn't popular? Mario is the most popular name in gaming, look at mario kart wii sales, look at NSMB, even NSMBU hit over 2mil with WIIU's low install base...

So Fire emblem, 3D Mario, and Xenoblade are extremely similar titles because they are all "Nintendotized", honestly that makes no sense at all. I Grew up playing Nintendo too, i still enjoy their games along with other companies games. And what records exactly are Sony and Microsoft's games hitting, Nintendo still has best selling game, pokemon X/Y joined top 10 best selling game in 24 hours. Nintendo STILL has the highest rated game along with the 2 highest rated first party games this gen. Its your opinion if you don't like Nintendo anymore but mostly everything you are trying to state as fact is wrong.

[RobbyGrob]

I think you're misunderstanding me.

You're saying that a new game within a franchise can be fun even if the previous ones weren't. I agree with that. But Nintendo are an exception this rule, on purpose, as they try less harder to create something new as opposed to improving what's already there. And so I come back to my point about how it doesn't matter how good most Wii U games are if people already know what to expect from them already having played several games in these franchises. When you buy a Mario game, you know what you're gonna get. Now clearly, you know what you're gonna get when you buy a COD game too, but that's because its developers just like Nintendo are keeping them similar on purpose. The similarity is part of what you're paying for. I myself absolutely hate COD. The difference there is that Mario games often are single player only. And adults especially crave social games.

Wii U has indeed new games. Good ones too. But since they aren't system sellers it's not going to matter much to those who are already tired of Nintendo systems. Even if new good IPs eventually appear, you don't buy a console to await new games you've never heard of without first having a strong attraction the the games already there. And the games already there have for a while now been more of the same old.

When I said that you were defending something that wasn't popular I was only talking about the Wii U. If what you've been saying is true, the Wii U should have been as popular as the Wii. What you're saying doesn't explain why it sells so poorly. What I said does. I admit that my theory may be wrong. But I could easily round up a hundred friends of mine 20+ who would laugh at you even talking about Nintendo as they consider it a company that makes children's toys. They are obviously quite jaded in this regard, but this is the common picture of adult gamers. They don't care for Nintendo and they don't care for mobile consoles at all. These are teenagers' and casual adults' products. Do you really think that Mario and Zelda are the system sellers of the Wii? Of course not. It's the Wii Sports and the whole motion thing that attracted the tens of millions of parents who thought they could play a video game with their kids without being experts. For the rather picky adult gamer it was a disastrous console as we get tired faster, both physically and psychologically.

The games you mention as the biggest names in gaming are not the biggest names in gaming among adults. Grand theft auto, Battlefield, CSGO, World of tanks and league of legends are. Of course that doesn't mean that games popular among younger gamers don't count. But my entire participation in this discussion had been to explain things from the point of view of adult gamers who already played Nintendo games hundreds of times before. Wii U doesn't have enough sure-fire experiences for people like me and frankly everyone I know over 20.

Nintendo has not grown with their audience. They keep getting new ones. So of course their rehashes are gonna get good reviews. Because they are, as stated, good games. For people who haven't played them five to ten years ago, that is.

[clouds5]

Omg :D Nintendo is the ONLY company in the industry that has the guts to try out new stuff and change gameplay. I can't believe your ignorance.

Mario is just a brand. But while CoD is literally the same game each year, Mario games have had completely different gameplay over the years. So has Zelda. The last one (SS) was based completely around motion controls, while the one before (TP) was made for dualanalog gamepads.
But I would have nothing against a new Nintendo IP.

[SonyKong64]

try as you might, but you'll never get it = /

ever.

[lifeisgamesok]

The funny thing is people are using resolution to measure how good a game is when a lower resolution game can look better than a native 1080p game

Battlefield will most likely be 900p or 720p and it's going to be one of the best looking games next gen

[BBBirdistheWord]

Agreed.

However, has anyone told the fanboys?
Apparently if it's not 1080p it looks like a*s.

Or maybe this only applies to games rendered at 1080p on their console of choice?

[lifeisgamesok]

Right. I don't know why or who came up with this crazy theory

But 1080p does not equal to top notch next gen graphics

[PurpHerbison]

You will look back at Battlefield and laugh for your little statement about it being one of the best looking games next gen.

[RexFury]

I love the Wii U but even I have got to admit this article is far fetched. -Foxtrot pretty much summed it up above with his comment on how the Wii U has been out for longer...hence more games.

[Xsilver]

WiiU is next gen?

[fhizikz]

Probably not sony didn't say so yet. Zelda HD looks next gen to me

[madjedi]

WW looks next gen to you lmao, it looks like a up rezzed port to me.

Sorry the 2010 zelda tech demo looked next gen to me, ww hd is a piss poor substitute verses a true next gen zelda.

Both the xbone and ps4 will destroy the wii u in specs, but that doesn't mean the wii u is incapable of producing some good looking games.

Nintendo's very non realistic art style and modest physics will help the system achieve better results than if they targeted a realistic style.

@next vs current gen ranters
I don't see a damn thing next gen about the wii u vs the ps3/360, let alone the ps4/xbone.

Next gen with last gen components is still last gen to me, regardless of who designs it. Hence why it's currently bombing.

The industry has their interpretation of next gen and nintendo has it own, nintendo used the power definiation a gen from nes-gamecube. But decided to stop at the wii, don't work that way sorry you can't have your cake and eat it to.

@author Seriously you want to stroke nintendo's dick on having more 1080p 60 fps games( yeah we will see) and yet nintendo couldn't even be bothered to make a 2d platformer like nsmb u at 1080p and 60 fps.

If a simple non taxing 2d platformer isn't 1080p/60fps how the hell are the big games using more complex lighting and physics ect going to hit 1080p 60 fps despite more resources being used.

I'll never understand nintendo fans false impression of elitism(general impression over the yrs) toward sony and ms gamers. Atleast pc gamers have a logical point even if it's annoying to the console guys.

[KonsoruMasuta]

Yeah, it's successor to this gen's Wii. That makes it next gen.

[AWBrawler]

successor to this gen's best seller, with highest rated games of that gen, the Wii.

i corrected it for you. watch my disagrees to a fact skyrocket

[DOOMZ]

Thats because the Wii U is basically THIS GEN, lol!

[Misaka_x_Touma]

oh so ps3 and 360 can do it easily then

[SuperWeeb]

Breaking news, an older console has more games.
Thank you for the report, Stan. More news at 11.

[Anzil]

Simple textures and environments = 1080p/60fps

[MikeNike310]

Yea it's a little easier to achieve 1080p/60fps when your making cartoon worlds as opposed to real interactive worlds.

[Anzil]

Not even tryin to be a dick cause i like the look of the games but tryn to compare wiiu to next gen is nuts to me.....

[BosSSyndrome]

Bayonetta 2.

[Anzil]

bayonetta 2 isnt garunteed to run at that at all give me proof,
hell the first one was known for dropping framerates. so you sir are a liar.

[Misaka_x_Touma]

@anzil
u played ps3 version. everyone knows 360 version is the definitive version.

[Anzil]

@Misaka_x_Touma
No it was the xbox version heard ps3 is even worse!

[clouds5]

Yeah about that should get their priorities straight. Do you want 1080p/60fps or high polygon counts/textures/post processing effects? If you get 1080p/60fps people cry about the graphics being not good enough, and if they get the effects they cry about 1080p/60fps.

Want both? -->PC. Just saying... I'm completely fine with Wii U graphics. The games usually have amazing art design. Which is WAY more important to me than texture resolution..

[truechainz]

Article clearly only exists to start arguments, and all you idiots bite hook line and sinker.

[Brazz]

yup, one more Nintendo fanboy...

[Relientk77]

The Wii U has a year headstart.

[TheLastGuardian]

Plus only one of those Wii U games have been released so far. By the time the rest come out PS4 will have more. Dumb article.

[windblowsagain]

Wii u is next gen in area's.

The controller!!

As for the system itself. It's a decent step up compared to the original wii.

But obviously compared to the PS4. It's not.

[Convas]

This just means that things will get better for both Xbox One and Playstation 4 as devs become more acquainted with the boxes.

Good times all around.

[Npugz7]

Bahahaha!! Ya right!!

[Crazay]

Personally, I'm getting pretty sick of all this jibber jabber about resolution and numbers etc etc... The way I see I it, is if it looks good and plays well, resolution means very little to me whether it's 1080p 60fps, 720p 30fps. I just want good games.

[AWBrawler]

preach! they don't know about old school gamers. back in my childhood days i didn't care or know which had better graphics between my NES and Master System, or between my SNES and Genesis, or between my PS1, N64, and Saturn. I just know i liked the games. i can't say that as much now. gaming has become an arms race of power, resolutions, and who can sell the most realistic military shooters. I miss the good old days of talking animals, platformers, adventure games with complex puzzles, and exploration where you can get lost for hours at a time and love it.

[Crazay]

That's nicely put sir. Obviously we're from the same generation of gamers

[PS4isKing_82]

Well said. Spoken like a true gamer. We need more of your kind around here sir.

[Trago1337]

What he's stating is factual, but people on this site especially wont accept that.

And what makes this even funnier is that the PS4 and Xbox One are using PC architecture, EASY TO DEVELOP FOR architecture, and yet 1080P 60fps isn't standard.

[Beastforlifenoob]

because hes making a stupid comparison.

3 core cpu with 2GB of ram running at 17gb/s and 0.3TFLOPS

VS

8 core cpu with 8GB of ram running at 176gb/s and 1.78 tflops

[R00bot]

Why is it a stupid comparison, especially when the Wii U is actually beating out the competitors.

[Bill_Willson_CIA]

This is stupid because the graphics are not the same.Even if Nintendo release full hd games for the wii U,the graphic will be in the ps3/360 level.(ok! a little better).

The PS4 and ONE are having problems with resolution/framerate because they have higher graphics/textures/phisics/AI/E TC...

[OmegaShen]

I like to see this list of true 1080p 60fps games, because so far the games I own run at 720p.

[Smoovekid]

Any game Wii U runs in 1080p 60 fps the PS4 and Xbox One can also.

But Nintendo does make good games but they are not graphically demanding.

[DialgaMarine]

*Yawn* Call me when Wii-U can run Killzone 1080p 60 FPS.

[GTgamer]

You gonna be waiting a long ass time for that call.

[Simok123]

Lol the PS4 hardly even does that according to this article.

[roland82]

Yawn is exactly what I do when playing killzone

[PopRocks359]

Call me when the PS4 does that as well. It's confirmed to run at 30FPS btw.

[arbitor365]

this article reeks of desperation and ignorance. i can recognize the smell of a nintendo fanboy from miles away

[jcnba28]

Or you're just having a problem accepting the facts.

[DialgaMarine]

Know what's funny? PS3 can run games in native 1080p and 60 FPS. Does that automatically mean the games look next gen? A turd will still look like a turd, no matter how much you polish it. Like I said, when games on Wii-U that run 1080p 60 FPS actually look next gen, then Nintendrones can boast. Until then, have fun with confirmed last gen hardware + a cheap ass Ipad wannabe.

[evilhasitsway]

it ant hard to make Mario and other Nintendo games that have cartoon look to them 1080p @@60fp compared to battlefield killzone and many others that have more realistic graphics 1080p 60fp

[chronoforce]

Apparanlty it is, 3D World runs @720p. I cant imagine why.

[DialgaMarine]

Because the Wii-U apparently can't even properly run 3DS ports XD

[R00bot]

Why is it such a common idea that cartoony graphics are less intensive than games that try to look real?

Just because a game has more colour than another game does doesn't mean it's easier to run.

Cartoony games are just as graphically intensive as any non-cartoony game, they just choose to look like that to appeal to a different demographic.

Just look at Mario Kart 8, it looks light years ahead of the Wii and 3DS versions, obviously the Wii and 3DS couldn't do the cartoony graphics that well, despite them apparently being easy to render.

[evilhasitsway]

because im pretty sure there is more work that has to go into games that try to look realistic do to detail its the little details that make it much harder compare Mario grass which has no detail really its just green compared to like last of us for say that there trees and bushes and plants have much much more detail in it. just like when you play a pc game like wow not that big in graphics so your pc if you have a descent pc could run that game at 60fp compared to if you played bf4 on that same pc and your pc cant handle it so you are at 30fps. don't comment on something you really have no idea what your talking about. don't get me wrong im no smart guy but it is kinda common sence.

[RAFFwaff]

i didnt need to put on my flame resistant thong, because it wouldnt have stopped me reading all of the inevitable drivel from stupid sony drones who will leap to the defence of the mighty ps4 the moment any weakness is exposed. Buy your ps4's in your millions, then wait and see 'trustworthy' sony begin to backtrack on their drm policies, while explaining that cross-play just isnt as profitable as they thought it would be. Then the vita will be obsolete by next christmas, totally destroyed by the 3ds and mobile gaming. Hahahahahahahahahaha........(c ough)

[kwandar]

Gets worse - they are going to buy it and realize after a year, that there is little software out, and that SteamBox is now available .... to replace the Xbox1 and PS4 consoles.

[BosSSyndrome]

Only 1080p 60fps because the Wii U isn't capable of doing that with more realistic worlds, huh? It can only do that with cartoony games? So I guess we all just forgot about Bayonetta 2 running 1080p 60fps then? Or how about how great X looks? Say, now that I think of it, how is Knack running on PS4?

[chronoforce]

When did Platinum games ever confirm Bayo2 ran at 1080p native, some gaming publication "believes" that it runs at 1080, if they never said a word you would scratch your head if asked what resolution it renders in. As for X it does look great but we still don't know the resolution nor its framerate. Truth be told the games that run at 1080p are the cartoon ones. Nintendo is going through the HD era just as the other 2 consoles did, meaning the promise of full HD then the subsequent failure to deliver.

[kwandar]

Confirmed at E3,as I recall, but here ... see for yourself ...

http://bayonetta.wikia.com/...

[clouds5]

I love this artice just because its feeding the trolls, haters and fanboys :D

Take the system that everyone is bashing (wii u) and say it's better than the one all the fanboys are drooling about (ps4). And back it up with actual facts.

Genius. As a PC gamer i have to admit I'm really excited for ps4/xb1 release. These flamewars are more entertaining than many (console ;) ) games.

[Concertoine]

you guys act like wii u is only running 2.5d platformers in 1080p lol. fact is there isn't ONE 2.5d plarformer from nintendo running in 1080p native (aside from rayman which is 1080p on current gen too), in fact one of the games running in 1080p native is bayonetta which has a lot going on and a realistic graphic style.
the entire time the ps4 fanboys are slamming MS for ryse at 900p saying 900p in 2013 is pitiful and proves the xbox one is weak, now that the wii u is brought up all the sudden 1080p is no big deal and the wii u games all have low quality graphics in the first place.
just because they're not all realistic (bayonetta is, and looks damn good too) doesn't mean it's not impressive to see it running in 1080p!

[LOL_WUT]

LOL @ Batonetta that does not even have realistic graphics. ;)

[Concertoine]

"Batonetta" has art style, but at it's core the textures, character models, and some of the settings are pretty realistic. looking at the first game, the gothic architecture is well detailed and realistic.
its a fantasy game yes, but by your logic mass effect, batman, or gears of war aren't realistic looking games.

[PopRocks359]

@LOL_WUT

Nice reverse damage control. Bayonetta has detailed graphics and a ton of action happening on two screens in very large environments, all the while running in 1080p 60FPS. You're an idiot if you seriously think the 360/PS3 can do the same thing.

Oh wait, it's you.

[XisThatKid]

LOL @poprocks

Yea you forget Bayonetta 1 was and is on PS360?

[Concertoine]

@kid
I was stating the wii u can do realistic games in 1080p, bayonetta 2 is an example. When he said "bayonetta" he was non chalantly referring to the sequel, since bayonetta 1 is 720p (upscaled on ps3) and its pretty obvious the ps3 couldnt run bay 2 in 1080p when it cant run god of war ascension (a great albeit worse looking game) above 720p, and cant even run that at 60 frames.

[That-Guy]

Why does this guy even have six stars?

[level 360]

Bwah hahh hah ha ha... yes do embarrass yourself in a big way, do please.. Hhahh hah ha ha..

[niteight]

When the Wii U comes out with anything that surpasses Beyond: Two Souls graphically I'll accept them as a next gen console. Not until.

[RAFFwaff]

no thanks. glorified movie= crap gameplay. And nintendo has once again shown sony, ms what real next-gen innovation means. i.e. dual screen gaming.

[madjedi]

" And nintendo has once again shown sony, ms what real next-gen innovation means. i.e. dual screen gaming."

Lol people still obsessed with meaningless buzzwards, you call it real next gen innovation. I call stupid little features that i won't give a rats ass about 99.9% of the time.

I'll state there in general 2 types of gamers in general(very generalised), your kind show me the innovation in gaming, my kind show me and kickass games i'll enjoy with or without earth shattering "innovation" and i'll bite.

If that's real innovation, then i'll take stagnation till vr hits.

[lilbroRx]

So when people start making games that pile 90% of the graphics into the character models(primarily their face), only then will you consider it next gen?

Fanboys have warped perceptions these days.

Really, Beyond 2 Souls did nothing technically high level. It just piled polygons and effects into the characters face. The overall modal complexity isn't that high. Definitely not as high as this. http://www.gamekapocs.hu/me... , http://i1-news.softpedia-st...

Bayonetta's character modeal alone in Bayonetta 2 has over 130,000 polygons. How much does the main character of Beyond 2 Souls have in it?

I guess faces are all that matters in gaming now.

[niteight]

If there is nothing "technicallly high level" about this current gen game. Why isn't the games on nintendo's "next-gen" system making it pale by comparison?

[ThePsychoGamer]

"Fanboys have warped perceptions these days. "

And the award for the most ironic statement of the day goes to LilbroRx

[OldGirl]

130,000 Polygons... So you see one pre rendered design that isn't even in game yet and you are basing your information off of one video that doesn't specifically talk about that at all?

Firstly the video doesn't even show the word polygons anywhere because mostly all modern game engines use triangles, so you don't even know what you are talking about much yourself.

Why bother talking about game design when you literally don't even understand what you are reading? See the images from the video I can assume you and every other fool are taking this from.

http://www.abload.de/img/ba...

http://oi49.tinypic.com/25f...

Notice how the triangle count has changed in the images. It doesn't matter because it will continue to change and that will not be the final model actually put into the game, all pre rendered characters start with high triangle counts for several different reasons of course people like you would not know that.

Crytek can't even achieve the 150,000 polygon count they were boasting about but somehow you delusional people have it set in your mind that Platinum Games is capable of achieving higher when the first Bayonetta was only around 30k.

More like using information you have no concept of is all that matters in gaming now..

[lilbroRx]

Bayonetta 2 does in everyway.

There have already been enough games that outperform their PS3/360 counterparts by a large margin to conclude that the Wii U can do all around better than they can, and the Wii U hasn't even been out a year.

How many years did Beyond 2 Souls take to devlop and how experienced were the devs with the system?

Your not seeing any games as is making it pale in comparison is entirely a matter of your own personal bias, and likely fanboyism(ie, you'll never accept anything on the Wii U as superior even if the devs straight out say it is which they have in many cases).

Fact is that the PS3 is a last gen system and any game made on it is last gen. So no matter what you see or how good you think it look, the Wii U can do that and more. That is beyond questioning at this point.

[chronoforce]

The "large margin" you speak of is only large when your fanboy lenses enlarge them.

[Kennytaur]

The Wii U is slowly building up pace, it's the perfect second system. Now if only Nintendo could fix the issue of having a system basically without internal storage that can't operate usb devices properly. It can't wake usb storage devices that's gone into low-power mode.

[Ch1d0r1]

Wait a minute... The Wii U was released almost 11 months ago. And how many games does it have???

[Brucis]

34, with 26 upcoming ones.

[Dubaman]

So...many..fanboys.....

[isarai]

"Now there's also Warframe and DC Universe Online that are also 1080p at 60fps, but neither of those are native next-gen games; they're ports."

: /

anywho, he's got a point, but also Wii U has been out longer, and those games aren't exactly gutting edge graphics. not saying that makes it less of a game, but compare any of those to KZ: SF which runs 1080p 60fps and the difference is clear. still getting a Wii U, i don't buy games for graphics, just addressing the subject

[MultiConsoleGamer]

There are no Nintendo fans on N4G. They've moved on.

[isarai]

look above you bro

[MultiConsoleGamer]

That one guy must be a glutton for punishment, just like the 3 Xbox fans that still visit this site.

[swice]

There's still a few of us floating around the stratosphere. Laughing.

[AKR]

Wii U launch titles come out:
"My goodness, this is supposed to be next-gen?! ROTFL! You gotta be kidding me!"

Xbox One and PS4 launch titles are displayed:
"Well, the devs are going to need time to get used to the new hardware."

....Irony much?

[Metfanant]

it would only be irony if the Xbone and PS4 games actually looked worse than the Wii U games...however they don't...

resolution is part of the overall design choice by developers...the PS4 or Xbone could easily play any Wii U 1080p game at higher framerates than the Wii U can...

and the Wii U could NOT play any of the lower res Xbone or PS4 games...

[AKR]

Yes, PS4 and X1 can play any game the Wii U can - that wasn't my point.

My point was; many people were judging the Wii U's power by it's launch titles. Nintendo fans defended these claims with statements like:
"It's new, so developers need a little time."

All the PS4/X1 fanboys did was laugh and continue to sling mud and talk down the Wii U's performance. Now both systems are currently not the all-powerful gods that these same fanboys expected them to be, and what's their reaction?:

"It's new, so developers need a little time."

THAT's my point. The same argument people were flipping off and laughing at, is the same argument they're using NOW.

And just to add: If devs can create a game like Crysis 3, for example, to run on high-end PCs AS WELL as the much weaker PS3/360 ~ you really don't think devs can't optimize their titles to run on Wii U? Sure, there were A LOT of PS3/360 titles which would literally be technically impossible to run on the original Wii ~ but the Wii U, like PS4 and X1 - is a native HD system. Not as powerful, but their in the same category this time.

[Metfanant]

but your point doesn't hold any water...because those Wii U launch titles still look weak compared to PS4 and Xbone launch titles...

yes, its obvious it takes devs time to get used to any hardware, but even 2nd, 3rd gen Wii U titles wont look as good as PS4/Xbone launch titles...the hardware just isnt there...

whether the PS4 and Xbone are "all powerful gods" is irrelevent...because their launch titles will look better than anything that will ever be made on the Wii U...period...

sure devs could make Crysis 3 run on the Wii U...its all a matter of scaling assets...my point was that anything that runs 1080p/60fps on the Wii U would be a cake walk on the Xbone or PS4...anything running 720p/30fps on the PS4/Xbone would need serious downgrades to achieve the same performance on the Wii U...

yes, its a native HD system...but they are not in the same galaxy in terms of hardware...

[AKR]

The thing is, looking back at titles like Crysis 3, the Mass Effect games, Battlefield series, The Last of Us and GTA: V - all of which looked gorgeous on the PS3/360 ~ I'm quite interested in seeing what devs will be able to do with the Wii U's hardware.

Games like X, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8, Smash 4 and Pikmin 3 give a little preview as to what the system can do.

Even looking back at the Wii ~ it had some really sweet looking titles. Games like: Xeneoblade Chronicles, Skyward Sword, the Mario Galaxy games, and Sonic Colors ~ come to mind.

My point is; the Wii U isn't in the same ballpark as the PS4 and X1 ~ no doubt - but neither does that mean it's games won't look great.

And besides; A great game isn't great by how pretty it looks. Just like a woman - she can look beautiful on the outside, but she might have a terrible personality on the inside. In like manner, a game can have beautiful graphics and be boring or broken. Gameplay > Graphics.

[kwandar]

Xbone and PS4 will look weak compared to Steambox ... and have damn few exclusives that aren't on Steam. That is where it is all going in a year.

Wii U is innovative with exclusive IP and will survive - Xbox and PS4 .... maybe not.

[DanielGearSolid]

What does this mean? I mean really wat does this mean for anybody? Like whats the underlying point? I really dont get it

[Metfanant]

and none of them look as good as Sony's first party PS3 titles...so whats the point?

[Tontus]

I bet most of those 1080P 60fps Wii U games are actuallu 720p upscaled to 1080p. No better than the PS3/360 then.

[The_Villager]

Damage control lol

[Caffo01]

the games look barely better than ps3 or x360, it's easy to do 1080p/60fps on those... but if they try push the graphics to KZ:SF levels they'll get 10fps at 1080p lol

[deafdani]

What an incredibly stupid article.

First, comparing the amount of games in 1080p 60 fps on a console that's almost a year old as opposed to consoles that haven't been even released yet is idiotic.

Second, how many 1080p 60fps games had the Wii U at launch? Zero.

Third, how many of the Wii U's games are as graphically intensive and Killzone: Shadow Fall? Maybe Bayonetta (which isn't going to release until next year, at that)?

Fourth, Smash Bros and Bayonetta 2 are going to release next year, well over a year after the Wii U's launch. If you want to make a comparison, let's wait until the PS4 and Xbox One have been in the market for more than a year and compare the 1080p 60 fps games they have to the Wii U ones launched in the same timeframe.

Fifth, both the PS4 and Xbox One are superior to the Wii U in everything, spec by spec. That means that any game that the Wii U can run in 1080p 60fps, the other two consoles would be able to run at the same performance, too, or better. What makes the Wii U stand apart to the other consoles, hardware-wise, is the GAMEPAD, not its power. Period.

Sixht, and MOST IMPORTANT: WHY THE HELL DOES IT MATTER? A game can be 1080p and 60fps, but if it plays like shit, the game is shit. Wonderful 101 is currently my favorite game of all time, and that one is 720p (although it runs at a smooth 60fps most of the time). I don't love it because of its resolution , I love it because it's a blast to play, and resolution is not a factor for that.

Again: this article is as stupid as it can get. Ugh.

[Deep-throat]

" Third, how many of the Wii U's games are as graphically intensive and Killzone: Shadow Fall? Maybe Bayonetta (which isn't going to release until next year, at that)?"

None. And it will never happen.

[TheLastVoiceOFsanity]

people say they don't care now, but they'll care when nintendo is the first to have there games running in 4k resolution 60 frames per second, and sony & microsoft choose to run their games at 2k to get pretter graphics. it's 2013 & the majority of americans have 1080p tv's, it is standard now, and everyone knows that a lower resolution picture on a higher resolution tv looks like crap. higher frame rates mean smooth graphics& less jaggies.

[Metfanant]

~75% of Americans have at least 1 HDTV in their house...to say that the "majority" Americans have a 1080p TV is probably a stretch...

[TheLastVoiceOFsanity]

it's hard for me to believe nearly every american, or at the very least every serious gamer doesn't have a 1080p tv 4yrs after the switch to digital. i'm actually looking at a resent walmart paper that's advertising 2 1080p hdtv's(32in-47in) for between $300-$500, and 1 720p hdtv(32in) for as low as $200. i think anyone who ever wanted a hdtv has one by now.

[Beastforlifenoob]

a 4k game even one that is simple would take 50-60GB wii u disk cant hold that much and the harddrive sucks troll much? Also the Ps4one specs aer far far more superior to the wii u

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

it's easier for nintendo. most of their games are cartoon like games anyway.

[Brucis]

Bayonetta 2

[ZHZ90]

I know what you mean but he said "most" not "all".

[duducus]

Wind Waker HD is not 60 fps though, I have it... So that's one little that is off... :/

[Korde11]

This site is starting to bore me with all of the bitching!!!!!! I enjoy games! I enjoy them on Wii U and will probably enjoy them on PS4 and Xbox1. People will argue over anything. I guess that's why we have so many stupid wars.

[KontryBoy706]

How about releasing them Nintendo?

[cell989]

hmm I never knew there were Nintendo fans around here, you rarely hear from them, yet here they are defending the WiiU at all costs, where have you guys been in all the other discussions about graphics, next gen consoles, rumors, and developer commentaries?

[N4g_null]

Playing on the system or coding for it.... its going to be a great few years for indies, yes it is! No really why argue when you can play and see the difference, plus why waste time trolling when I can make money? I only come here while waiting on debugs, rendering etc.

Everyone is on mii verse, what you didnt know?

[AWBrawler]

scissor is right. we are on miiverse having nontrolling gamer friendly conversations or playing our games. thats why you barely here from Wii U gamers on N4G. we moved on too miiverse the ultimate social network for Nintendo gamers.

[urwifeminder]

So does this automatically mean any game that is not 1080p and 60fps will suck I strongly recommend everyone move to pc then.

[Simok123]

You obviously missed the whole point of the article if you think that, lol.

[MNGamer-N]

If it's not 8000 X 4000 (800fps) THEN IT AINT NEXT GEN Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[2pacalypsenow]

Ps3 and xbox 360 have more games than Wii U argument won

[Simok123]

No shit.

[Deep-throat]

This article is stupid. Wrong infos everywhere.

Wind Waker HD does not run at 60fps.

Rayman Legends runs at 1080p/60fps on current consoles too... so what?

Nintendo or P Games never talked about the res of Byonetta 2 yet.

[glopez]

The argument here is that the ps4 and xbox one were deemed to be super computer types. Heck the way people were talking here, you'd think the consoles would write their own code then play the game at the same time. Now it turns out that the games announced won't be 1080p/60fps. Heck even killzone's sp wont run at that resolution, just the multi. As strong as the systems are claimed to be, they shouldn't have a problem achieving this. Remember they have (in Nappas voice) "8 GIGS OF RAM!!"

[Metfanant]

but you cant make the comparisons like that...because there is more going on in any one frame of Killzone Shadow Fall then ANYTHING that can be coded on the Wii U...

they COULD make Killzone's single player 1080p 60fps (instead of 1080p 30fps)...they would just have to tone down the graphics to multiplayer levels...and it would STILL beat the pants off anything that will ever be made for the Wii U on a technical level...

youre not taking anything else into account...textures, shadows, character models, shaders, dynamic lighting, poly counts, AI, etc...

[glopez]

I understand what you mean, trust me. I love my ps3, and im sure i'll love the ps4. Not really an xbox guy. My point stands though. People here don't want to hear the truth because their expectations are so high, anything less would shatter their worlds. As strong as the ps4 was made out to be it shouldn't have a problem achieving it. People just don't want to admit that it can't do it. Will it ever? Maybe. But as of right now it can't, or else it'd be doing it, don't you think? I'm not saying it's not a strong console, just not as strong as people thought. And just maybe the Wii U is a little bit stronger than people want to give credit for.

[McScroggz]

Concerning Killzone: Shadow Fall:

I haven't read a ton about it because I have it pre-ordered and I want as fresh of an experience as possible. That being said, Killzone has always been a slower, more weighty shooter compared to most others on the market. I'm sure Killzone 2 and 3 were at 30 FPS in large part due to lack of power in the consoles, but I also think part of it was because the games actually feels right at 30 FPS.

Guerrilla and Sony are trying to position Shadow Fall as the number one multiplayer experience for their console out of the gate the same way they tried to push Resistance: Fall of Man. So I think they decided to make the multiplayer 60 FPS because that's what people want. I understand that multiplayer is a lot less graphics-intensive, but I'd guess the desire for its multiplayer to be a success is as big of a reason for 60 FPS.

Regardless of if I'm right or not, I take umbrage with the idea that, "These consoles are supposed to be super computers they should run everything perfectly," is kind of asinine. I want developers to push the boundaries of what they are capable of and what the system can handle so I'm not only getting a beautiful looking game but a dynamic one as well.

[blackbirdi]

he completly forget the better shaders and textures on ps4 and xbone and the bigger levels and polygons number just comparing the resolution is so stupid

[arbitor365]

here are the PS4 games confirmed to run at 1080P 60 FPS

Resogun
Warframe
Killzone shadowfall
Flower
Deep down
Final fantasy XIV (when the wii u gets a 1080P 60FPS next gen MMO, give me a call)
Call of duty ghosts
DC universe

here are games that are likely to run in those settings

Planetside 2
War thunder
outlast
the wintness
rime
hohokum
dust 514

and almost all of the 100+ games that have been announced dont even have official resolutions and framerates listed

and this is all before the console even launches. how many 1080P 60 FPS games did the wii u have at launch? CODBO2 and scribblenauts

[arbitor365]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

ratchet and clank into the nexus has just as good visuals as any wii u game and is at 60FPS. thats because, like those games, it is cell shaded

comparing mario kart 8 to driveclub is imbecilic

[Sarxblade]

This article just proves to me that the whole 1080p 60 fps nonsense that fanboys like to argue about is just meaningless. I'm not trying to bash the wiiu, i actually want to get one. (I love pikmen). But to me this article also puts that whole CBOAT rumor to rest that the Xbox One won't be able to do 1080p games. Your telling me that the weakest console can do 1080p and 60 fps but the rival to the ps4 can't? What a bowel of bull. KI maybe 720p but the partial effects and graphic details look amazing, and it runs at a smooth fast 60fps.
This article is actually funny to but all those ps4 fanboys saying the ps4 is more powerful because it had more 1080p games then xbox one, but now it is that the Wii u has more 1080p Games then the ps4 so in fanboy logic the wii u is the most powerful console. And don't give me that excuse "well the Wii u had a year head start". Because even if the ps4/x1 did 720p games they'd still look just as good as the wii u's 1080p games. Again just look at KI. So I'll end with this, can we please come down now from the fanboy high chairs and admit that all 3 consoles have great looking games.

[cunnilumpkin]

people thinking the resolutions of "next gen" consoles will get better are delusional

as devs try to add more and more advanced rendering tech to games over the years the first thing they will sacrifice will be resolution and anti aliasing

its the first to go!

look at games like alan wake at 540p

resistance 3 and 576p

splinter cell conviction on 360 at 540p

every call of duty game to stay at 60 fps at 600p

res and anti aliasing will degrade every year on ps4/xbox1

face reality

[MrTimesplitters]

CANT WE ALL JUST BE NICE :(

[swice]

MiiVerse

[McScroggz]

This doesn't completely surprise me. I mean, games on Sony and Microsoft consoles are generally much more technically ambitious than Nintendo. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo does a great job of creating beautiful aesthetics; but pretending that context doesn't matter is reductive. The new 3D Mario game looks great and will be one of the best games this holiday season most likely, but it being 1080p/60FPS isn't as impressive as Killzone: Shadow Fall at 1080p/30FPS for the single player or 60FPS for multiplayer.

I'd even be willing to go out on a limb and bet that Nintendo will have the highest percentage of 1st party titles that are 1080p/60FPS than either Sony or Microsoft. In the end, does it really mean anything given the context?

[AAWELLS09]

1080p 60fps=Next-gen? News to me.

[lilbroRx]

It was the first things people attacked the Wii U for not having at launch and the biggest, most recurring means of dismissing it as a next gen console.

Its funny how something suddenly loses its importance when its not in your groups favor anymore.

[AAWELLS09]

Lol. I'm in no "group". I love and play all platforms. All I was saying is that 1080p 60fps isn't what makes a game next-gen no matter what system its for.

[StrawberryDiesel420]

And yet, The Last of Us for PS3 absolutely destroys any game on Wii U graphically. I'd take that over rayman or bayonetta any day of the week.

[lilbroRx]

Only to people who see things through pure, tinted Sony vision. There are games ont he PS3 and 360 that look way better than the last of us and were technically doing a lot more.

ZombiU "graphically" outdid the last of us and that was on the Wii U at launch.

[InTheZoneAC]

any of these newer systems can take a 360 or ps3 game and run it at 60fps....

when the wii u starts having graphic heavy games with lots of computing going on then let's see...

if you take whatever powerhouse ps4 game, let's just say it runs it at 60fps at 1080p, do the same on the wii u and the system probably crashes as soon as it starts.

[kwandar]

Any of these newer systems can be replaced by Steam Box

... except Wii U and its exclusive content.

You take whatever powerhouse ps4 game, lets say it runs at 60fps at 1080p, do the same on Steam Box .. and the price will drop dramatically.

[InTheZoneAC]

the article is about graphics.

how stupid is this article to compare a refined current gen system to a next gen system?

and the steambox isn't out yet, hold your opinion until facts start to show...

[wishingW3L]

but at the cost of less density per pixel. That's why Ridge Racer 7 doesn't look as good as GT5.

[JackVagina]

Wii U more powerful then X1/PS4 confirmed.

[plsburydoughboy]

Raise your hands if you remember people on this thread bragging about Ryse being 1080p and having to take it all back a day later

[rinslowe]

Wow, ok....

Where to start? So although the Wii U is a great great HD console from Nintendo. When it comes to games optimised with a full gamut of effects and a 60fps target, I guarantee that Wii U is most definitely a 720p native machine at heart...
I see a lot of games this time next year all looking fantastic running in 720p native @ 60fps up-scaled to 1080p (Wii U does really nice and clean up-scaling).
But if we are to consider complex games featuring the Wii U 's more modern effects at full tilt, then 1080p native they likely will not be... And before the critics, haters or the plain disillusioned chime in, this does not mean Wii U games will be visually handicapped in any way. Quite the opposite.
720p native with 60fps including Wii U's direct x 10.1 comparable feature set, large and fast memory, 25+ GB disc storage etc.. etc.. will show how much 1080p native is not so important all the time... up-scaled to 1080p will be more than shiny in terms of graphical WOW moments..
Now considering PS4 and Xbox 1, saying Wii U has more 1080p native games now means not much considering those machines will for certain have more 1080p native games later...
They have a lot more grunt than Wii U and will show that difference visually in games released over the years to come.
Having said that, Wii U has more than enough brute force to provide very nice looking games and has already started to show certain advantages graphically over current gen. This will also improve somewhat over time.
Ultimately what is important now all consoles are capable of + 720p resolutions is how the game plays. And Nintendo knows better than arguably everyone on how to make a beautiful looking game that plays even better!

[AceBlazer13]

Well I highly doubt games like donkey Kong take much to make 1080p 60fps.I love nintendo but come on.

[Metallox]

If you are not interested in the console, then, why do you complain?

[Reem]

I think this pic from the story sums it up: http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Good for Wii U it can run last gen graphics in 1080p/60fps, but can it run this in 1080p/60fps:

http://scr.wfcdn.de/8439/Ki...

No way in hell, it would melt even trying to run it in 720p/10fps lol

[leogets]

can't believe how many disagrees you have.. surely people ain't this dumb to think Wii u could throw out anything graphically demanding as killzone sf

[MasterCornholio]

Killzone Shadow Fall is way ahead of the Wii Us capabilitys. I'm not saying that Wii U games will be bad but in terms of visuals they will be pretty poor in comparison to Xbox One and PS4 games.

Nexus 7 2013

[mohuzas]

what's funny about this comment is the fact that Killzone SF isn't even 1080p 60fps on the PS4 XD

[leogets]

exactly. so Wii u would be like 30 fps 11p with dumbed down graphics lol

[marloc_x]

*yawn*

[Reem]

Ninty head poncho says: "We can run this in 1080p/60fps!!!" and shows this superb ingame scene: http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu...

***Wiitards clapping***

[marloc_x]

Your avatar sums up the effort that went into PS4..

[zero_gamer]

And people still have the nerve to say N4G isn't full of fanboys, the comments on this article alone is enough to suggest otherwise.

[AHall88]

Yeah, kind of sad. Who cares about what console is "better" than the other, all the matters is what games are better.

[yavorsv]

The console wars get sadder and sadder year to year. How pathetic. If you want great graphics get a PC.
Nintendo will always sell consoles, because of their franchises, but they are way behind times and too stubborn and scared to step up against $ony and Micro$oft. Still regret buying a Wii. PS3 and Xbox games are too expensive here so..

PC FTW ! ! ! !

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

you can't buy a gaming pc that's equivalent to the ps4 for 400$.

[TronEOL]

And when you compare what is actually going on in most of those Wii-U games to the games coming out on PS4/XboxOne, you'll understand why the stale Wii-U games can achieve 1080p at 60FPS.

Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack are two Playstation exclusives that look TONS better (and far more appealing to the eye) than anything Nintendo has put out, or any of the third parties, for the Wii-U.

When you have proper physics, dynamic animations, dynamic lighting, proper enemy AI, and all the rest going at once in a Wii-U game and running at 1080p at 60FPS, THEN you can brag about it.

Playing Mario in 1080p is absolutely nothing to brag about. This is why EA/Activision/Ubisoft (and other massive publishers) don't consider the Wii-U a next generation console. All it's doing is playing Wii/PS3/Xbox360 games in 1080p. Yet even then none of them compare to some of the best looking PS3 and Xbox360 games.

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

comparing the 1080p 60fps wiiu games to the other next gen consoles is pointless. the level of detail and look of ps4 and xbox1 are miles ahead of the wiiu~ having a good resolution and high fps is a totally different beast on the ps4 and xbox1.

[larrysdirtydrawss]

ya,im pretty sure its called choice from the get go...i think with the stronger systems,they really wanna push them hard and these games are a hell of a lot more intensive then the simple kiddie games

[ozstar]

This whole thread is pretty childish.

I mean this is a new generation guys.

You can choose new alliances, you can start again, fresh and maybe even be objective again.

But you're still fanboys shi**ing your pants over a single tiny blog article?

Grow up! (dreamin!)

[leogets]

pritty sure ps3 wipeout and some other titles run at 1080p 60fps.. depending of the scale of the game. the Wii u won't run bf4 in 1080p 60 fps.. oh wait... it can't run it at all. nuff said.. oooosh

[mohuzas]

you're saying that like the PS4/XboxOne versions of BF4 run at 1080p 60fps, which they don't.
and of course it can run it. if the PS3/Xbox360 can run, why can't the more powerful WiiU run it? :P

[leogets]

nah I didn't say that next gen console run bf4 in them settings,which leaves me to my conclusion that current gen Wii u wouldn't either.. ooosh X)

[XisThatKid]

1080p 60fps yea but how many polys and particles and lighting and processing most of this is going to be done offline I'm sure. I'm sure this is upscaled as well not saying some games aren't native 1080p on WU though. Plus doesn't Wii U have MORE games since it's been on the market for bout a year now?

[GirlOnFire]

Probably because the PS4/X1 hasn't came out yet...

[JuniorCE]

Who wrote this is certainly a fanboy... A brave wii u fanboy ;-)

[lilbroRx]

Whoever called the writer of this article a fanboy is a fanboy. Butthurt Sony fanboy. Not calling any names though.

[JuniorCE]

Actually, I am saying this because Wii U's Gpu can do only 0.352 TeraFLOPS/s compared to PS4's GPU 1.84 TeraFLOPS/s and X1's GPU 1.31 TeraFLOPS/s...

Well... numbers don't lie, dont they?

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

[GordonKnight]

@foxtrot

@JuniorCE

The worse fanboys are the so called Hardcore gamers. fighting over which console better. It's really funny because the big 3 are in this business to make money and not to please the Hardcore gamers. The Hardcore games are a small percent of video game sale. All 3 companies know this. I think the Wii is proof enough of this. so, my view on Hardcore is that they are a Fanboy of one of the big 3 consoles and fight that their console better, but a true Hardcore gamer has all 3 console.

[JuniorCE]

Actually, I am saying this because Wii U's Gpu can do only 0.352 TeraFLOPS/s compared to PS4's GPU 1.84 TeraFLOPS/s and X1's GPU 1.31 TeraFLOPS/s...

Well... numbers don't lie, dont they? I am not a fanboy, I have the wii (not the u lol)... But now I am getting only the PS4 for next gen console. Despite my gaming PC.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

[Loadedklip]

60 FPS to me is improve ... games just move so nice when it can keep 60FPS going. The first game I truly realized how important that was was F-Zero GX.

[link2Dpast]

as soon have something positive remotely comes out for Nintendo here comes the leeches

[LetoAtreides82]

The article is using future games for the claims of 1080p/60 which is silly. Wait until the games come out before claiming they can do this or that.

If you take out all the future games off the list you only got Wind Waker HD and Rayman Legends as confirmed 1080p/60. Wind Waker HD is a 10 year old Gamecube game, Rayman Legends is also 1080p/60 on the PS3 and the X360 which are 6 year old consoles so it's not a really impressive feat.

[ALaish]

I'll make a game with three triangles, four squares, six enemies and all of it in 1080p native resolution for Game & Watch system. Just give me a screen which support it's output. This "article" is... OMG...

[TrollCraftTales]

Good job Wii U! After one year you have more 1080p 60 fps games than console that are yet to be released!

[Stapha1993]

I hope the next big Zelda game plays at 60fps, it will make the combat and exploration feel soo much better.

[Flames76]

Haha Wii U, hope this idiot knows that the Xbox One and PS4 isnt out yet.this guy needs to be flipping burgers.What a freakin moron

[deecee33]

Something tells me this article is tongue in cheek. There aren't that many WiiU games I would mistake for PS4/XB1 games.