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The making of Final Fantasy XI: will Xbox's first Final Fantasy MMO also be the last?

There have been toys, not unexpectedly. There have been novels. Films. Key-rings. Life-size replica swords. Anime cartoons. T-shirts. Clocks. Comic books. Jewellery. Soundtracks. Cuddly toys. Mobile phone apps. Chocobo hats. Radio plays.

Max-Zorin3845d ago

I hope not. I'm pretty sure there are Xbox owners that like MMO's despite the petty stereotypes.

Mystogan3845d ago

It will be the last on 360 for sure. But Xbox One on the other hand already has a few upcoming MMO's.

Destiny,Warframe,Elder Scrolls.
War thunder and Black Desert devs are also interested.

hellzsupernova3845d ago

The war thunder devs have stated that they are not interested, they say microsofts policies mean it won't happen.

KwietStorm_BLM3845d ago

Didn't know Warframe was an MMO... When did they announce it for Xbox One?

Mystogan3845d ago

@hellzsupernova
I heard it somewhere today that they were interested again, don't remember where unfortunately.fortunately I don't give a shit about War Thunder, I don't like vehicle only games. That Includes World of tanks.

@godmars
I don't consider world of tanks an MMO

@KwietStorm

I actually thought it was an MMO xD. Anyway the devs said something like this. " It would be really stupid not to bring it to the Xbox One now" so yeah. That's pretty much a guarantee or they'd be calling themselves stupid.

Godmars2903844d ago

@KwietStorm:
Think the door has been opened for Warframe being on the XB1 after MS reversed their policies.

UltimateMaster3844d ago

Destiny and Elder's scrolls are the only 2.

Warframe is in negotiation.
no other game is interested so far.

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wasn't FF 11 on xbox 360 ?

Abriael3845d ago

It will for sure be the last Final Fantasy MMO they get, courtesy of Xbox Live's hostility to cross platform gameplay.

Yoshida has been very clear. They don't want to split their userbase. So no FFXIV on the One. And it's a pity, because for a MMO the more platforms the better.

Mystogan3845d ago

Meh...is the expression that describes Final Fantasy XIV.

it's not up to par with the top MMO's. And you will have to pay a subscription every month. It will not be missed. I definitely won't miss it that's for sure.

Elder scrolls Online is a much better game by the looks of it. But again monthly subscription ruins it. Guild Wars 2 and many others already proved that you do not need a monthly sub fee make a great MMO.

Abriael3845d ago

LOL. Final Fantasy XIV is most probably the best MMORPG on the market at the moment. It eats whatever "top MMO" you throw at it alive in basically every aspect. Graphics, gameplay, music, storytelling...

I played Elder Scrolls Online at Gamescom and it doesn't even get near. Guild Wars 2 doesn't have a sub, and it shows in the fact that its quality is low and its built with an engine that was already obsolete when it was used for Guild Wars 1.

You get what you pay for, and your comment really sounds like sour grapes.

kwyjibo3845d ago

Final Fantasy XI was meh, worse than other MMOs and had a subscription fee.

It is the most profitable Final Fantasy of all time.

Some people will only play an MMO if it has chocobos in.

nunley333845d ago

Final Fantasy XIV is fantastic and it's totally worth the monthly fee. You get a free 30 day trial when you buy the game. So play the 30 day trial i say and see if you still wanna continue after 30 days,i bet you will after getting a taste of that sweet sugar that is FFXIV.

kwyjibo3845d ago

Xbox has been very hostile to cross platform previously. But that was partly because Xbox Live was the only online service you had to pay for.

If a game had cross platform multiplayer, gamers could choose rival platforms and still have access to the large Xbox Live playerbase, killing their sales.

Now that Sony (and their fervent supporters) have decided that pay-for-online is awesome, there's more parity across the platforms and Microsoft may be open to cross platform gaming again.

This interview posted yesterday suggests that Xbox cross platform is happening - http://m.joystiq.com/2013/1...

Abriael3845d ago

Between Xbox One and PC, and only on Microsoft games where Microsoft has total control.

Too bad that the game is on PS3 and will be on PS4. You can pretty much bet your monthly wage that Microsoft will never allow cross platform with Sony's consoles.

kwyjibo3845d ago

I don't think that will be the case. He brings up Shadowrun, but they're ditching Games For Windows live.

Even if it is the case, it would bring Xbox cross platform up to parity with PlayStation cross platform.

Unless you're going to champion PS4-WiiU compatibility that is.

Abriael3845d ago

@kwyjibo: it does not matter if it "brings it up to par". This article is not about a competition between Sony and Microsoft.

Sony isn't against cross platform with any other platform. Microsoft will never allow cross platform with other consoles.

This means that FFXIV, which is already on PS3 and will soon be on PS4 will never be on Xbox, because they already said they won't split the community.

kwyjibo3845d ago

The amount of certainty you place on Microsoft's cross platform plans is weird.

Microsoft are putting Office on iPad. Smartglass is available on iOS, Android and Windows Phone. They understand the monopoly is over, their new "devices and services" reorganisation recognises this.

Vanna3845d ago

I could be wrong but i thhought Sony had stated that free content including mmo access did not require ps plus

Maybe that has changed now??

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Juste_Belmont3845d ago (Edited 3845d ago )

Unless MS had dedicated servers for 360 players of FFXI, crossplay between consoles has already happened, as I played FFXI on my backwards compatible PS3 for awhile, so I don't see what the big deal is. Of course it's all up to MS to allow FFXIV to happen on the Xbox1, but I think eventually they will, especially if they think it will help them sell more consoles.

The_Truth_24_73845d ago

I remember a Marvel MMO was going to be released for the 360 but MS policies kept it from happening. That MMO is now Champions Online.

PoSTedUP3845d ago

im not to fond of paying a monthly subscription for a service i already pay to play online for. if i wanted to play mmo's id get a pc. that is of course if any mmo is good enouvht to persuade me to do so...

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Final Fantasy XI Online November Update Goes Live

The latest update for Final Fantasy XI Online, the 'November Update', is now live across all platforms where the game is playable.

Kurisu162d ago

Can't believe this game is still getting updates 21 years after it launched. That's crazy! XI remains the only main numbered FF that I haven't played.

MrNinosan162d ago

At the time, it was an amazing game if you had a good Linkshell and/or friend to play with.
A MMOROG that actually required teamplay to be played.

Spenok162d ago

Easily one of the best games ever. As you said, it had the caveat of NEEDING a good group to play with, but I've never had memories/experiences like that in ANY game since.

I've been chasing that experience since I stopped playing it, and the closest I've come to is FFXIV. And even that is still vastly different.

Seraphim162d ago

Played the shit of this 20 years ago. Getting the Serket ring was epic. Idk how many mornings we spent camping before we finally got the pull and I won the roll upon defeat. It was great solo, but you really need a good link/squad for some of the notorious monsters....

MrNinosan162d ago

@Seraphim
I loved those camping hours for every NM of interest.
Leaping Lizzy or what was it's name. Damn, so many days and nights 😅

And first time you got attacked by the Kraken on the boat, omg...

MrNinosan162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

Why tag all those platforms where it ain't playable then?

Spenok162d ago

To get more engagement with his article, and drive clicks. DUH!

(Thanks, I'll go ahead and report that).

YoungKingDoran162d ago

Wish they'd release it for PS4, 5, Xboxes and Switch - it ran on ps2 and still works on potato PCs so should run well everywhere

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Disrespecting The Consumer: The Critical Problem With Live Service & GAAS

Live service games are vehemently criticized and companies need to rethink & prioritize respectful game design for consumer benefit.

Kaii265d ago

Gabe says not being publicly owned is a huge part of what makes Valve so successful.
"The whole point of being a privately held company is to eliminate another source of noise in the signal between the consumers and producers of a good."

Looks at Destiny 2 > I used to go into a store to find a game. Now I go into a game and find a store.
"Bungie reportedly expressed concerns over how engaging The Last of Us multiplayer project was"
Bungie at GDC "Beware of overdelivering, quality doesn't matter, a live service being fast is more important than quality"

meh

P_Bomb265d ago

I remember that headline about Bungie and Factions. I’m not a Bungie guy, but I am a Factions guy. Can’t help but wonder if their GaaS input will be to my liking. 🤔

ChasterMies264d ago

I always thought Destiny would be better if Bungie built the game and then handed it off to another company to run it.

Christopher265d ago

That's kind of the GaaS whole thing, though. This is like telling wolves to stop behaving like wolves.

P_Bomb265d ago

Was looking at the top games in my country as per the PS Store and it’s overwhelmed by service games. Blood is in the water.

senorfartcushion264d ago

The issue is that journalists mostly ignored this issue as it was arising. Games like Overwatch were considered exciting until lesser news websites and organisations began taking opinion pieces on the problem. From then it’s just gotten worse.

ChasterMies264d ago

A lot of “game journalists” are just extensions of the corporate PR teams. Remember when Bungie flew people out to Bungie HQ and showed them the 4v4 multiplayer in Destiny 2? Everyone who attended said this was the best decision for multiplayer. Less than a year later, Destiny 2 went back to 6v6. Everyone who attended said this was the best decision for multiplayer.

FinalFantasyFanatic264d ago

The issues are so prelevant, that I just immediately skip over the majority of GaaS games, hardly any are worth the time. The mainstream media glossing over the issues is nothing new, you always have to wait a few months for the real reviews or opinion pieces (that tends to include video game reviews as well).

FinalFantasyFanatic264d ago (Edited 264d ago )

This is why I won't spend money on a lot of these games, not only do they nickle and dime you at every opportunity, but a lot of these games have a very short life span, not many of them survive for multiple years like Fortnite has.

I also feel like most MMOs in generally are more aqueduct in terms of content, for what you pay, I feel like a lot of them give you a decent amount to enjoy.

Profchaos264d ago

Gaas the game doesn't end untill people stop paying

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Final Fantasy XI Online January version update is now available

SQUARE ENIX® announced that the January version update for FINAL FANTASY® XI Online is now available. #FFXI #JRPG #MMORPG @SquareEnix

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jznrpg466d ago

Didn’t know this game was still going . It is an awesome game

Exvalos466d ago

Wait what ff11 is still online????

sadraiden466d ago

I think I speak for the entirety of humanity when I say this update announcement doubles as a reminder that this game still exists.

Auron466d ago

I wish theyd port this game to modern consoles

Spenok464d ago

I'm honestly surprising it's still going. I have some of my most fond memories in gaming on this game. And I've been gaming for over 25 years.

I wish I had the time to keep playing it, but I just can't. Good on SE continuing to support it after all this time.