Sony talks Trophy transfers to PS4, also confirms no HDMI capture at launch

Incase anyone was thinking of making a new PSN account for online gaming with the Playstation 4 and transferring their current Trophy collection, this won't be possible. Also HDMI capture for launch will not be available.

[Majin-vegeta]

Yes i wanna keep on building my trophies.would hate to start all over.

Now we wait for the xbox fanboys to turn this into a negative article xuz of the HDMI -_-.

[Blaze929]

insecure much?

anyway, I wonder if we can change our PSN names this time around.

[xHeavYx]

I think they haven't confirmed/denied anything regarding changing PSN names, they did mention it's a complex process

[AridSpider]

@xHeavYx

Microsoft has enabled their consumers to change gamertags as many times as they want since the Xbox 360 launched. Maybe even back on the original Xbox. Of course, for a fee.

Sony is now charging us for PSN come next gen - complex process or not (which i don't believe) they better figure it out. How hard can it really be.

Which is why i think we all need to start asking Sony what exactly ARE their PSN plans next-gen. We're all required to pay now but we really havent heard anything on how the infrastructure has and will improve compared to today.

[ohiostatesman]

Can't even do capture on PS4. WTF. For being a next gen system. The PS4 doesn't seem that way.

[soljah]

can u capture game footage from hmdi on the ps3?
doesn't it have the same copy protection system?

[admiralvic]

@ Soljah

Not natively.

[Destrania]

@AridSpider

And yet you can't transfer your Gamerscore over. That's worse.

[jatakk]

@Destrania

What do you mean by can't transfer your Gamerscore over?

If you mean that if you change your gamertag the gamerscore isn't transferred, you are wrong.

If you mean transferring achievements/trophies and gamerscore/trophy level on the 360/PS3 between different accounts, you are right.

[Deadpoolio]

They have confirmed that NO you cannot change your name if your transferring it from PS3 to PS4....But that your more than welcome to just create a new ID.....Nobody lets you change your name

[darren_poolies]

@AridSpider

Yes but don't Microsft charge you to do that? Something like 800 MS points?

[hellzsupernova]

I will be helpful and answer your question. No you cannot change your user name at this stage. However you can change the way it appears, eg you can use your real name.

[Sono421]

Please Sony don't allow people to change their names!

Everytime i'm on xbox that's all I get is a bunch of messages that all say something along these lines "hey this is blahblahblah and ive now changed my name to blahblah just letting you know" now this wouldn't be so bad if people didn't change their gamertags every other week! It's nearly impossible to keep track of who's who if you have over 5 friends.... PLEASE Sony... DON'T allow us to change our names... and if you do.. only once!

[FamilyGuy]

HDMI capturing will be patched, there's ways around the protection that people serious about game capture should already be aware of/have anyway.

Obviously your trophies aren't going to transfer if you're making a new account, what kind of question is that?

As far as changing your user name goes, Japanese PSN accounts/users have had this ability for a long time. It's not "hard to do", it's just not implemented in other countries. The reason/reasons why could be anything but the user above me has a scenario that might be why.

I could imagine being annoyed by seeing names I don't recognize pop up on my PSN friends list because of people changing their minds so often. I know it annoyed me in WKCs 2 with a few of my friends that would change their characters names or appearances too often.

As far as I'm concerned none of this is even "news", all this has been known for a while.

[pixelsword]

"Incase anyone was thinking of making a new PSN account for online gaming with the Playstation 4 and transferring their current Trophy collection, this won't be possible."

Incase?

Who allowed this to pass?

[Jaces]

That would be nice I suppose, though my PSN name has grown on me a bit. lol!

[noctis_lumia]

dont need to be insecure we all know which console will get OWNED next gen

xbox one

[President]

What a dumb title: "Trophy transfers to PS4" should be Trophy transfers to another PSN ID.

[abzdine]

his answers are always so damn short :D

[UnHoly_One]

I think Yes and No are the only English words he can type. lol

[ProA007]

"The Playstation 4 was originally planned to also include this restriction. However due to a backlash from customers and Microsofts Xbox One allowing HDMI capture, Sony recently reversed this restriction"

Lol...i just find that funny - you know, following the Xbox One DRM situation. But no one makes fun of Sony for this reversal 180 huh? Ooooof course not.

[SonyNGP]

Why make fun of it? It's not funny in the slightest. I sure as hell didn't want Sony to implement that backwards-ass restriction again.

[Nicaragua]

at least he is up front about the reason for the change instead of spouting off how they did it because the fans are passionate.

[come_bom]

Of course Sony does 180's, they just aren't badly advertised as Microsoft's 180's... specially in N4G.

[neocores]

Troll much sony as mark,shu said they never even had that on thier mind they have said it many times to

[Blaze929]

@ProA007

lol you know it's "cool" to hate Microsoft and their products nowadays. It's just the "cool" thing to do. Don't you want to be "cool"?

[thebudgetgamer]

"But no one makes fun of Sony for this reversal 180 huh?"

Isn't that what you're doing right now?

[GiggMan]

180's are good as long as they are not bone head 180's. Who cares as long as we benefit. Keep the positive 180's coming MS and Sony :-)

[admiralvic]

"Lol...i just find that funny - you know, following the Xbox One DRM situation. But no one makes fun of Sony for this reversal 180 huh? Ooooof course not."

Cause a problem that at most affects 3% (I assume it's well under 1%...) of the total market is the same as DRM that affects 100% of the market. Also unlike the original Xbox DRM, you had realistic and viable solutions...

1) Use the included PVR functions. No one is stopping you, just stopping you from using your own machine to get it.
2) Get a splitter. Worked on the PS3 and should work on the PS4.

Where as Xbox One was

1) Buy the system and accept it.
2) Don't buy the system and move on.

Also, even though I am one of the people with an HDPVR, I would say that you couldn't even make it into a big deal if you tried. Even when this was first rumored people just said to use the included one and shut up.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Aren't you making fun?Who is this no one you speak of?

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

because its a small problem with a simple patch. Xbox one was built around the DRM and all features that came with it

[M-M]

That's because no one reads the articles, just the headline lol. The restriction mainly had to do with Sony being a movie company, so they got paranoid and restricted the whole system.

[Deadpoolio]

Uh Nice try troll...Sony never said that you couldn't so there is NOTHING to One80 about....Unlike Micro$oft who has to One80 every other day.....It's amazing how hard you Xbots have to try to troll knowing that the company whose spunk you love gargling are the kings of flip flopping

[MajorMayhem70]

You better hush you mouth boyyyy! This is Sony were talking about. If somebody should hear you talking like that, well let's just say it could get ugly round here. You know damn well there's separate rules considering which console we're talking about. Now run along boy. We're starting to draw attention..... Lmao

[FamilyGuy]

It's only a 180 if you say no, then change your mind to yes, or something similar. Sony is changing a standard function to be more user friendly based on request. The HDMI video capture protection is standard on all bluray players, they're going out of their way to change this standard for the fans. A 180 would be if they said "We won't be be doing/allowing this." and later changed because of backlash.

[THC CELL]

Rather em block video than gaming yawn off back to bed and dream about my ps4 again killzone in my dreams wtf I just killed the Master Chief wait its a dream ah well.

[Mr_Luke]

@ProA007
I hope you understand the difference between DRM on games and this about capturing from HDMI... well, since you posted that, i guess you have no clue about it.

[Bundi]

So obsessed with Xbox fans.

[showtimefolks]

Please don't allow people to change their user names, on xbox360 it's weekly thing to change name so to quite hard to keep track of all your friend list

Maybe allow a one time thing but not anytime you want deal

[XisThatKid]

Why not make it a pay thing maybe first time free kinda deal I just want to group my FList like on AIM or something or PSN Clans and transferable across various games save time and organizable

[showtimefolks]

XisThatKid

that's smart 1st one free but after that anywhere from $2.99 to $5.99, the more expensive it is the better chances not many will keep spending just to change name

[FACTUAL evidence]

This pretty much confirms sony not making a psn id change feature for ps4, so these a-holes just not going to let me change my name? No way im dropping 90 plats, and hundreds of dollars in downloads.....Sony don't upset us and make a name change feature possible.....it's not as simple as just making a new "FREE" account anymore...MAKE IT HAPPEN, get with the program already.

[SilentNegotiator]

Wait, how do they block us from HDMI capture?

[IcicleTrepan]

HDCP

[CuddlyREDRUM]

Or Sony fanboys saying no HDMI capture at launch, when Mark Cerny was talking about it in the Spring, is no big deal.

[pixelsword]

I'm almost willing to say that it can be bypassed.

I'm expecting to see videos within the first few days of the launch.

[corvusmd]

At least you acknowledge that the HDMI is a negative. True, I really don't care, but since PS Fanboys would be quick (in fact first post) to point out the same thing if it was the other way around....here is goes..my impression of a PS Fanboy in reverse:
"HAHAHA PS3.5 sucks it will fail!! Another 180 by $Ony!! First they said there would be NO HDMI support, now they have to backtrack to keep up with Microsoft. XB1 FTW"

See how annoying that crap is??? This is why people are touring away from PS4 so fast, because it seems that MS's "no jerks" policy is all about sending them to PS4. At least what I was purposely being annoying about was based on fact...most times PS Fanboys are just spitting non-sense. It's actually true that Sony said they would not support HDMI capture at all, now reversed that policy and is doing it late. The reason you noticed that this would get trolled, is cause you are one of the biggest trolls out there and if it was the other way, you'd be all over it....if you don't like it...stop doing it.
(Respond and cry all you want, I'll never see it, I don't respect your opinion because you've proven over and over that you're just a biased fanboy that has no needs for facts)

[malokevi]

Duh! Achievements/trophies are, and should be, tied to the identity under which they were earned. If you get a new identity, it makes sense that you have to start from scratch. Otherwise, people would be swapping trophies and selling their accounts like crazy.

That's why I've been "killing machine" since 2001/2002. So long ago that I can't even remember when the Xbox Live beta test happened.

I'm 23 years old. So 2001 was more than half a lifetime ago for me. I can say with confidence that there are very few things in my life that have been as consistent as my Xbox Live gamertag. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't proud, and that I didn't have some sort of emotional attachment to the account.

For as long as I can, I wont be giving it up. I'm hoping to bag a similar name on PSN, though I assume the pickings are slim at this point in the game.

[Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II]

I will take that name on a dummy account so you cant have it... I joke :) or do i?

[KUV1977]

You can just register it now in case it is still available.
https://store.sonyentertain...

[malokevi]

Oh thats cool, I'm just gonna wait, but good to know!

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Ha sneaky malokevi always throws a little mention of Sony in his writings.Sneaky trolls worst then blatant fanboys.

[malokevi]

Two comments? Wow, you're really desperate for my attention. Flattered, but spoken for, thanks!

[malokevi]

...

Sony, he who shall not be named!

Take a pill.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

LOL I can assure you a pill is not need.I'm just on to you sneaky malokevi.Find a different schtick.Or better yet just come out and be what you are a flaming Xbox fanboy.Nothing wrong with that.Be up front and proud of it.

[GTgamer]

I figured him out a couple days ago.

[malokevi]

Lol, settle down buddyboy! I literally said nothing bad about ps4, if you bother to actually read my comment. In fact, all I said was that I hope my gamertag is available on PSN.

So yeah... take a pill, sounds like you need to chillax a little =P I can only assume your open minded enough to consider getting an xbox? Lol

*rolls eyes*

Heee who shall not be named, loogout weasly!

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

It's ok sneaky mal,you can pretend it's you is oh so calm and cool.And you can pretend it's you who's so open minded,we know the truth.Just think back to some of your past comments.It always the same.So if that's your schtick and you don't have what it takes to be up front.That's ok.There is room for all of us gamers here.

[pixelsword]

No, I think once it's transferred, you should get three times to change your name, and that's it.

[Transporter47]

I'm glad they are going to support HDMI capture too bad its not launch but i'm happy it will come. Also until then I want to try the Share button :P

[mt]

true I hope it comes so fast after launch. I want to flood youtube with my silly videos. XD

[4logpc]

I wonder how big sites will get their video for reviews without breaking the law.

[ALARM-clock]

Most of the big game reviewers will be given debug consoles from Sony.

[shadow2797]

The same way they do now, since the PS3 (and maybe the 360?) has this restriction.

[4logpc]

ps3 has component out, ps4 does not.

Xbox 360 has component and doesnt have HDCP on on game content.

[mushroomwig]

'also confirms no HDMI capture at launch'

This has been known for some time now, it'll be a software patch soon after launch due to consumer demand.

[ProA007]

they never gave a time frame.

[SonyNGP]

Welp. Looks like it's Twitch or bust for me when it comes to streaming during launch (Ustream is out of the question since it's blocked). I hope I can use my Blue Yeti with the PS4 though...

[Godmars290]

Ustream is blocked by whom?

Edit:
Also, what country?

[SonyNGP]

Our government. They blocked it because some dingus thought it was a brilliant idea to broadcast a protest or some crap like that, and surprise surprise, our close-minded government blocked it (alongside Justin.tv).

Thankfully, Livestream (my main driver for games/art) and a few others still work, but Twitch is a little crippled on my end :/

I /could/ still use a vpn to bypass the block, but doing that for the PS4 is a bit of a hassle (having it share a connection with my PC while the vpn is being used).

EDIT: Bahrain.

[fardan85]

it sucks for us, but what can we do?
I used vpn on my mobile linked it to tv just access blocked websites to watch Sony/MS conferences.

[Death]

No HDMI capture at launch? I had a feeling the system was being rushed to market. Atleast Gaikai is ready.

[mushroomwig]

That's not the reason at all, it had no HDMI because of the HDCP and no component out. Sony changed their mind due to the massive consumer feedback. It has nothing to do with "rushed to market".

[Death]

Ahh, so they listened to their customers and made changes to the system. Kind of like a 180?

[r2oB]

@ Death
Yeah... Except they did not lie through their teeth and say "the feature is built into the console and cannot be removed with the flick of a switch." They just flicked the switch. Simple. I don't know about you but I tend to be more lenient when I am not lied to and tried to make a fool of.

[Death]

@r2ob
Lied to? The original proposed features weren't removed with a flick of switch, but ultimately they were removed. Did the ability to rip all your games to the HDD so you could access them anytime and anywhere really make you feel like a fool?

My point was both companies have a way to go with their newest consoles. We can't condemn one and not the other for doing the same things. Neither console was "rushed" to market, they simply need more time to get where they want to be. Same holds true for the "180's". Both companies listen and adapt when needed. This is a good thing for gamers and the companies making consoles. Why this is constantly spun as being bad is beyond me.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

HDMI capture not being available at launch means the system was rushed? lol.. I can't even do this.

But seriously, aside from this one small "setback," what made you feel like it was rushed previously??

[pyramidshead]

Dat reach.

[Brix90]

@Death

At least the PS4 can record 15 minutes of gameplay compared to Xbox 5 minutes.

[TechMech2]

I don't think Sony thought about hdmi. One major flaw in a nearly perfect system. At least its temporary.

[MasterCornholio]

I believe that reducing your launch countries from 21 to 13 is a better sign of a rushed console IMO.

P.S your just jealous of PlayStation fans since you can't accept thd positive atmosphere that surrounds the PS4 unlike your favorite console.

Nexus 7 2013

[The_Villager]

No HDMI capture at launch? Well that sucks.

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

Yeah eh.Almost as bad as no kinect voice funtions at launch.

Oh wait, twitch and ustream.Who cares about HDMI.

[DOMination-]

Its as important as night time racing (very if n4g is to believed)

[ZBlacktt]

Been proven countless times that your can still do it with other devices on the PS4.

[Eonjay]

"Incase anyone was thinking of making a new PSN account for online gaming with the Playstation 4 and transferring their current Trophy collection, this won't be possible"

Why would you create a new PSN account and try to Transfer your Trophies to it with the PS4. First of all... why would you create a NEW PSN ACCOUNT for PS4?

Lets go over the answers:

On the PS4 can we transfer our trophies from one account to another?

NO

If i buy a ps4, do i still have my old trophies from my ps3 on the ps4? :)

YES

Are you hoping for HDMI capture at launch?

no, sorry

[Blaze929]

"Why would you create a new PSN account and try to Transfer your Trophies to it with the PS4."

because we can't change our usernames? At least, as we know today. I sure as hell would love to change my username but i don't want to start over.

[Eonjay]

Actually this is only half right. You can choose how your name appears. No need to get a new account. PSN will be displaying your "Real Name" so basically you can be whoever the hell you want.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Yes, exactly. You want to change your name, but you don't want to start over. You JUST said that yourself. So why then would you *start* with a new name/account, as opposed to using your existing one, and hoping you can change it later?

[nunley33]

you can't create a new xbl account and transfer achievements to it from your old account either on xbone. neither ms nor sony will let you do this in the future. you'll have a few different options on how your name will be displayed on ps4. you can add your real name and have it displayed more prominently than your psn. this real name and picture is seeded from facebook and twitter.so if you wanted to just create a dummy fb account with the name and pic you want.

[shadow2797]

Also because some of us were stupid enough to make our accounts a sub-account. Since you can't make a sub-account a master account, you have to create a new one.

[AutoCad]

terrible.

[GentlemenRUs]

Please don't tell me HDMI capture isn't possible at launch due to the crappy HDCP...

If be it... I can wait for a patch for my HDPVR2...

EDIT: Whoever invented HDCP should be shot...

[Thehyph]

*cough* Intel *cough*

[Ratty]

Didn't we already know all that?

[Korezo]

I don't want to see ps3 trophies on my ps4 please.

[MAULxx]

Video capture is happening, just not at launch.
I kinda like not being able to change your name.
If you want to change your name that bad, start a new account.
On XBL, people on my friends list would change their name like crazy & I'd have no clue who they were. If you have to start a new account this happens less because people will lose their precious chievos. If they do create a new account with a new name they're more likely to send you a friend invite stating they changed their name if they want you back on their friends list.
On XBL, you pay $10 to change your name. That's stupid. Why would you pay to change your gamer tag? If your not happy with the gamer tag that "you" created, chances are your not going to be satisfied with the second or third one either.
They could do it like steam and have your account name but you can add & change your nickname all the time.
Like I said, I like it the way it is now on PSN.
Pick a name, stick with it. How hard is that?

[mushroomwig]

'I kinda like not being able to change your name. '

They haven't said you wouldn't be able to change your name, just that you can't transfer trophies between accounts...which is how it should be.

[WeAreLegion]

You can change your name. It was in a video posted that went through the UI.

[JimmyLmao]

i hardly call this confirmation of no HDMI capture at launch... just read the tweet lol.

"Are you hoping for HDMI capture at launch?"

Shu Yoshida: "no, sorry"

uhmm what? lol.

[Jack_Of_All_Blades]

Share button will be good, long as it works well

[WeAreLegion]

You can still do it. Jesus. Just buy a capture device off Amazon. There are a couple already built to get around these issues.

[ZBlacktt]

Been proven countless times that you can still do it..... Look on Youtube people for the device that plugs into the PS4. This news is OLD OLD OLD. Nothing we didn't already know from all questions.

[rajman]

Didnt see that coming....I was at Sony hq earlier today and captured tons of AC4 footage through HDMI with the Elgato game capture HD. I guess those consoles must have been debug units....but people shouldnt be annoyed over this, you can buy a converter for cheap that will allow HDMI capture on launch day

[SynestheticRoar]

Don't know how I should feel about this.

[ConwayGritty]

If this was the same story about xbox one people would be chirping so hard.
I will be getting both consoles but it's so stupid how you can't transfer trophies and also cannot change the name which you game with?
Sure xbox has a paid service for this feature but at least you can change it.

Just wrote this to read not here to argue

[kewlkat007]

lol...no, sorry

[fsfsxii]

Pre-order cancelled.

LOL!!
Oh, gotta include the /s or the guys at N4G get butthurt... REAL butthurt.

[ZBlacktt]

Like you could afford one anyway troll.

[Ohlmay]

Those rumors of Sony not wanting people capturing gameplay must of been true, oh well, they realised it was an issue quickly and are fixing it, I don't personally record gameplay so it doesn't bother me

[Hicken]

Yeah, that's why they have video capture built in: cuz they don't want anybody recording gameplay.

Troll harder.

[Ohlmay]

Then why else can people not use capture cards or share their gameplay on Youtube?

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

They can share to youtube.And capture cards (for anyone not wanting to use ustream or twitch or the built in custom recording OS for whatever reason) will have to wait for the post launch software patch for other capture.

[PickAShoe]

Me too, I only record family videos and real life stuff. Video games, you can comeback anytime you want.

[Hicken]

Do you not pay attention? Do you even know WHY it's an issue? Hell, don't you even read the other comments here?

HDCP is the reason why it's "not allowed." And that's in place to prevent people from pirating Blu Ray movies. It has the unfortunate side effect of making game capturing more difficult, but not impossible, as evident by all the gameplay videos all over the internet... including Youtube.

Yeah, Youtube. That thing you say can't be shared to from the PS4.

The same things that work on PS3 will work on PS4, and that's excluding Sony's built-in features, and the HDMI capture that won't be available at launch but WILL be coming.

Seriously, it's like you heard somebody talking about it as they walked by you and assumed that small snippet of conversation was all there was to the issue. And, just like a typical fanboy, you didn't even bother to look anything up.

[Gamer666]

No surprises here.

I would be surprised if any console supports moving trophies/achievements to a new account.

As for the HDMI capture. It takes time to devt stuff, and the console vendors have to have finalized their features by the time they started to manufacture consoles so all they are doing is bug removal now for day one firmware updates. They will move to new features after the consoles ship and have stable firmwares.

[imXify]

I'll just get a 15$ HDCP bypasser box.

[MilkMan]

Id like to change my psn name already and I don't mean sub-accounts. Damn Xbox can do it so why cant PS4 already?!

[Mister_G]

Slow news day.

[Mr_Luke]

When i see that the problem is about capturing from HDMI (thing i've never wanted to do anyway), i know the console i chose is perfect for me. I don't think people is going to buy a console because it does this... or maybe the console lacks everything else. No bad news about performance or games, so it's ok, can't wait for my ps4!!!
And btw, "at launch" doesn't mean that it won't be possible in the future. Without counting that someone will come out with a sort of bypass or device that does the trick....

[JuniorCE]

Honestly, I couldn't care less about the HDMI capture..

I want to play, and not record to strange people...

[roland82]

I hate my psn name. I'll be willing to pay a fee to change it.

[bloodybutcher]

it would be good to have a different psn name with my old account. got bored of it after so many years...