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Emily Rogers: "Wii U Owners Better Buy Ubisoft Games"

GaminRealm: Emily Rogers, a well-known Nintendo insider on the net, has warned Wii U owners on Twitter that they “better buy Ubisoft games.”

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lilbroRx3852d ago

This is asinine. Tell Ubisoft to stop screwing them over and giving them half assed ports. Then that would be more likely to occur.

The screwed them over on Ghost Recon Future solder, they screwed everyone over on Rayman Legends, they gave them a glitchy mess for Splinter Cell Blacklist and they are supposed to give Ubisoft money for this?

Ubisoft has released like 2 games on the WIi U that were actually worth buying.

syne493852d ago

How did they "screw" us on Rayman Legends? If you are referring to the delay and multiplatform release that wasn't a screw. They used that extra time put in a ton of content. Its not "screwing" us just because other people with other systems also got to experience the game. That way of thinking has got to go.

_QQ_3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

the only content they added was the rayman orgins lvls which i have on another disk called rayman orgins. I lovedthe game but i still wish they hadn't delayed a finished product.

lilbroRx3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

No, just the delay alone. The multiplatform release is and always has been a point of 0 concern.

There was far more to the issue than that, but it seems the anti-Nintendo zealots have taken to this article(as all articles that infer something negative toward Nintendo and their hardware), so it would be stupid of me to keep posting and getting hammered with disagrees and irrational arguments.

matgrowcott3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

The game was finished and would have been ready to ship within a few weeks of the announcement that it would be delayed. Lots of people had bought a Wii U for Rayman.

How exactly is that not getting screwed?

As lilbro said, the multiplatform release wasn't a problem. The way they went about it definitely was.

gaffyh3852d ago

3rd parties will give up on the Wii U pretty soon, it'll become a shovel ware/party game console like the Wii with the exception of certain first party/moneyhat exclusives. Ubi knew Rayman wouldn't sell well on the platform which is why they delayed the release so they could release on other platforms too.

Benjaminkno3852d ago

I bought ZombiU and I wasn't impressed.

I'll get WatchDogs.. I think two titles from me is sufficient.

Quite frankly I think Ubisoft has been a bit boring lately.

They hurt themselves with Rayman on WiiU. Maybe it helped them overall, but not with WiiU.

rainslacker3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

I didn't personally feel screwed. I support Rayman games in all their forms as much as possible. Rayman Legends was my deciding factor on getting the console day one, and I could have waited, but that's the risk of being an early adopter.

I ended up buying it for the PS3, since that is my preferred console. I'll likely pick it up on the Vita as well, and one day for the Wii U if it hits $10 in a year or two for collecting purposes..

Other than that, no ubisoft game on the Wii U has really appealed to me enough to buy it. Right now I think everything I want to get is being published by Nintendo, or a Nintendo first party game...so I have the Wii U for exclusives.

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AusRogo3852d ago

Dude atleast they're bringing out games for the console..

lilbroRx3852d ago

That's just like feeding a homeless man fecal matter and saying "well at least their feeding him".

dudeOplenty3852d ago

So, in this analogy, you're comparing the wii U to a homeless man and rayman legends to feces?

fattyuk3852d ago

The wii u is like a homeless person.

As it is currently living outside in the rain, All on its own.

Whilst other consoles have got homes.

LOL_WUT3852d ago

Agreed, Ubisoft have been there since day 1 can't you fanboys be glad about that? Seriously the whole Rayman issue is done with boohoo it got delayed but guess what? The better version was still the on the Wii U! So get over it! ;)

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Persistantthug3852d ago

Holiday 2013 will probably be Ubisoft's last push for the Wii U.

Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed.

If those don't sell, then I expect Ubisoft will bail.

allgamespc20123852d ago

half assed ports? they are the better of the current gen version and the only ones trying to help nintendo where nobody else is willing to.

lilbroRx3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Nintendo doesn 't need "help" they need good, unique, high quality games on their console and there are plenty of devs doing that.

SEGA, Atlus, Capcom, a ton of indies and lesser known third party devs like Shin'en.

I can not fault someone for not buying a poorly made, poorly presented game. How much marketing did Ubisoft put into SC: Blacklist on the Wii U or Watchdogs or any other game they have in line for the hardware?

Maybe these devs could actually try asking Nintendo fans what they want for once instead of releasing games with stripped content and glitches, then complaining about low sells.

AceBlazer133852d ago

They should go out of their way to market the Wii u version separately?that's Nintendo's job dude, it's their fault people don't know the console exists.

syne493852d ago

The delay added invasion levels, kung foot mini game, origin levels, 3D bosses, and was used to make it look a little better. They did not sit on there hands during those months. No one stopped you from buying it on Wii U and everyone benefited from the delay.

Abdou0233852d ago

I'm mostly going to get WiiU version of Watchdogs, but they need to show us what have thy done with the Gamepad.

syne493852d ago

Its not a screw because we benefitted greatly from the delay. Not to mention we also got the exclusive challenge app to help pass the time. Yeah it hurt that it got delayed, but any title delayed for the addition of thatmuch content is worth it.

AbortMission3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

But Nintendo doesn't have any leverage Lmao.

You either buy it or never get games (which the Wii u desperately needs since its 3rd party support is downright sad.)

Talk about failing in epic proportions, Nintendo.

3-4-53852d ago

Add to that the BS they pulled with AC3....and ubisoft isn't the great company they might once have been.

They still have really good IP's though so they have the potential to be awesome again.

Rayman legends looks like a great platformer.

TheDivine3852d ago

WiiU owners are lucky to have a third party supporting it so well. Its the best third party support they've had since Capcom released a few GameCube exclusives. And really the sales are so low (rayman aside) it would be easier for Ubisoft to skip the system altogether. Zombie U was a much needed game although the system needs real effort. It needs something exclusive that's big like Gears, Destiny, Uncharted, Bioshock exc. A few multiplats like AC, Splinter Cell, and Watchdogs help but they won't bring in other devs because they sell like shit.

Nin needs to spend some of their wii/ds money piles on buying studios and support. Should've bought Atlus, Platinum, Mistwalker, and some big western studio like Bioware, Bungie, or some THQ ip's. They need new blood and something other than the usual stuff which sells to the usual people. They should pay EA for Battlefield 4 to release on wiiu, pay Rockstar to release GTA5 same day, get FF15 and KH3 on the system at all costs, get MGS5 on the system, fund exclusives and Indy games. Otherwise the WiiU will be another GameCube. Great games but only Nintendo games and one or two third party exclusives.

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LetoAtreides823852d ago

It's not Ubisoft's (or any other developer for that matter) fault that developing for the Wii U takes extra effort which many companies cannot afford to spend. Time is money and if Wii U owners aren't buying games then it's not worth it for companies to take a risk on the Wii U.

Chrischi19883852d ago

Look, this is wrong. We have to go, where it all starts. It starts with a studio releasing a game to increase the appeal towards a console. If PS4 and Xbox1 had no games, noone would give a damn about those consoles. So the Studio produces the game, develops it for all consoles. Then you have a huge installbase on current gen and a elatively small one with Wii U. People had 7 years to buy one of the current gens and almost everybody own at least one of those current gen consoles. Why would anybody buy a Wii U, if you get the same game on a console they own right now? Makes more sense to go the cheaper way. So what can you do to make people buy the new console? Attract with special features, exclusive games and so on.

And what happend in reality? The best exclusiv game from Ubisoft, which would actually push sales, became multiplat. Then some release games as bad ports = no better graphics, no better gameplay. Then many studios even decide to take away the multiplayer function or something else, which lowers the games quality (ON THIS ONE CONSOLE) even further. So you can choose between current gen, which you already own with full game functionality, over a console which you have to buy first, so you can play half of the actual game.

Which is the smarter way to go? Is that actually Nintendos fault? I mean, the lwer specs to next gen has nothing to do with getting half games. Every new console at start has a low install base, to increase it you have to add appeal. To add appeal you need good games, which are at least on par with current gen, but look at Fifa13... a total disaster and this is actually not Nintendos fault, it is the devs fault. If they want to bring half games to Wii U, they should actually not bring it wo Wii U, instead of complaining it didnt sell, when everyone knows, why it didnt sell.

JonahNL3852d ago

If only you hadn't delayed Rayman.

lilbroRx3852d ago

That game would have sold 500k at least guaranteed giving that it was going to end the drought, and people were still in high spirits for the newly released console.

Now I don't even think it has 200k in sales on all of the consoles combined. Delaying that game killed it. I hope they found it worth it.

JonahNL3852d ago

I love the amount of disagrees we're getting. Taunting customers with a delay like Rayman's damages a company's reputation. I don't feel like picking up Rayman at the moment, because there are bigger games on the horizon.

TheVideoGamHer3852d ago

If they would have taken that opportunity, Legends would have sold a ton of copies. They had that entire window to themselves.

ado9083852d ago

You two are getting disagree's for being such fanboys and being so ignorant to accept what is right and what is wrong, anything nintendo related to you two is right apparently. While other 3rd parties bailed on nintendo, ubisoft still stuck through with supporting them. @libroRx its their fault for not marketing their games on the wii u? Their games are multiplatforms that are marketed to all systems, why should nintendo have speccial treatment? And yet they still do with exclusive contents and more definite versions of their games. Rayman, Assasins's creed, Watch Dogs you name it.. Had they not delayed the game, the game would potentially do even worse considering it's suffering for all 3 platforms altogether but by itself on the wii u? Oh man the profit they would lose is immense.

JonahNL3852d ago

Where in my comment does it imply that I am a fanboy, let alone ignorant? Ubisoft delayed Rayman and released in a period that makes it compete with massive games, like Battlefield 4, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Watch Dogs and the list goes on.

ado9083852d ago

@Zidane okay then what does the delay have to do with nintendo? The article is about why nintendo fans dont buy ubisoft games, so why are you talking about rayman being delayed only? All platforms were released at the same time.

Benjaminkno3852d ago

Actually, nobody can emulate the sales that Nintendo gets, so the bar is raised when it comes to selling well on Nintendo. Most devs don't even market their games. And ZombiU was crap regardless.

If that makes us fanboys... so be it.

BOWZER353852d ago

Might buy Watch Dogs, but not because she said so. ha ha

BLuTheSecond3852d ago

Exactly, Nintendo fans need to stop acting like they're entitled to everything just because they supported Nintendo's latest mistake. The reason why it seems like the PS and Xbox consoles get all the love from publishers/developers is because Sony and Microsoft keep developers in mind when they design their consoles. Nintendo on the other hand doesn't make the effort to reach out to devs. They arrogantly believe that developers should bow down unconditionally and follow every order Nintendo gives them. Then there's the fan base, PS and Xbox fans actually buy third party games, Nintendo fans on the other hand just buy Nintendo games and nothing else.

clouds53852d ago

Yeah the ps3 was a especially Dev friendly *rolleyes*

Still got all the love from Devs.

BLuTheSecond3852d ago

It was a pain to develop at first but Sony stepped in quickly and sent developers better Dev kits. They were proactive with their relationship with developers. Another thing that kept the PS3 afloat was that people knew it was as capable as the 360. The Wii U is clearly outmatched by both the PS4 and XOne.

AJBACK2FRAG3852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

Nintendo's latest mistake? The Wii U is Nintendo's best home video game console! I should know I own all of them!!! Alot of people that actually OWN a Wii U really like it. I love it. I'm on mine right now. If you're referring to the fact that it's under powered compared to the Xbone and PS4 boy are you in for a shocking surprise! You're probably right but I don't play specs. I play video games and Nintendo literaly develops the best software in the world period.

AbortMission3852d ago

Where's the "delusional" bubble for this comment? Lol

Chrischi19883852d ago

Why? What he said is true. Just because you can only play shooters. Nintendo is the only company, that actually produces good console games. PS and Xbox get games, which are not made for console. Best configuration is having a good gamer PC and a Wii U, with that you can basically play all important games, ok not halo, but the rest of it.

clouds53852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

From what i've heard Nintendo has never been so active and open with 3rd party devs like with wiiu. So i guess it's good for them.
Now I love the way Sony built their ps4 while communicating with the devs. That's the way it should be done. But the endeffect is that the new consoles are little PC boxes. And i already have a PC. And PC will be better in performance than both ps4 and xb1 while not having any downsides (except for exclusives, but that is not really a downside and PC has awesome exclusives as well)

I still stand by my statement that PC+WiiU is the best way to go this gen. (unless you have huge amounts of money and get all the systems anyway)

jmc88883852d ago (Edited 3852d ago )

The Xbox One was designed with gamers in mind?

That's a laugh.

You might want to learn what the word 'entitled' means....you're using it wrong.

Wii U owners should support Ubisoft more, but Ubisoft shouldn't be sending threats, delaying finished games, and cancelling projects like Ghost Recon. It goes both ways.

I've supported Ubisoft on many consoles and PC. I've bought probably close to 10 Ubisoft games in the last year, four on the Wii U. Using the gamepad on CoD (not ubisoft but another big 3rd party title) was great, only having 1500-3000 people playing multiplayer, that sucked.

They did make a mistake with Rayman Legends though. They had a window where it was going to be them and Aliens: Colonial Marines. But then you saw what happened with that game on other platforms and they cancelled it. So you would of had Rayman Legends all by itself in a drought. Soon they are going to start selling the boxed up copies of Rayman they have been holding in storage for the last 6+ months. Except now, there are TONS of games out competing for that dollar.

Imagine a movie studio created a movie and had the release weekend and the next weekend devoid of any competition...and instead of release then...you decide to wait 6 months until all the summer blockbusters are releasing on the same day. Then say...'you better support it'.

I said 6 months ago they were going to lose sales because instead of competing against no one they were going to be competing against Pikmin, Wonderful 101, Batman Arkham Origins, Call of Duty: Ghosts, Donkey Kong Country 3D, Super Mario 3D World, Zelda Windwaker.

Not only that, but look at Ubisoft's OWN release schedule. They released Rayman like 5 days after Splinter Cell. They have Watch Dogs and ACIV coming up. Not to mention two Just Dance games.

Sure some of these are coming 1-2 months later. But when it hits August-September, all these games and later start competing against each other for the Holiday dollar.

They made the decision to make Wii U gamers wait 6 months for NO REASON, and they are going to lose sales because of Ubisoft's idiotic decisions. They'll get the buzz of a multiplatform launch, but for that they lost Wii U sales. That was their decision. It was an obvious effect.

So if they made up their minds to lower their own Wii U sales, why should they then get upset by low sales and threaten to drop support? Doesn't make sense. If sales on the Wii U is so concerning, why did they take one of their finished and anticipated games releasing during a drought and make everyone wait and launch it with 20x the competition?

Benjaminkno3852d ago

Well it's easy to sell a console when you have everyone else making your games for you. They buy third party games, because that's all there is.

I could care less about Ubisoft developing for Nintendo. Or anyone else for that matter. Nobody makes software like Nintendo does.

It's just the way it is.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref1d 18h ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde1d 17h ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19721d 16h ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 15h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 7h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 6h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref1d 18h ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan1d 18h ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00722h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref1d 18h ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde1d 17h ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19721d 16h ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19721d 16h ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 13h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto1d 15h ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 7h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 4h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman1d 19h ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts1d 15h ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts17h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 1h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Disney adds Blizzard and Ubisoft veterans to its games leadership team

Top executives including games boss Sean Shoptaw have also been promoted…

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel8d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger887d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing7d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21837d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.