Dead Rising 3 locked at 30fps

Dead Rising 3's TGS demo shows fixed framerate and co-op freedom.

In August, Capcom Vancouver showed off a new in-game demo from the studio's upcoming Xbox One launch title, Dead Rising 3; a demo that, for all its charms and over-the-top zombie killings, suffered from some pretty significant framerate issues. Producer Mike Jones promised that the studio was working directly with Microsoft on optimizing the game to solve the issue — fortunately, that promise appears to be one Capcom plans to keep, as those issues weren't present in the demo shown off at TGS 2013.

[lifeisgamesok]

Great news! 30 fps is impressive considering hundreds of zombies and all of the physics

The graphics look pretty good too :)

[Gazondaily]

Yeah a steady 30fps in a game like this is great news (although I suspect that there will be some slow-down considering the massive scale of the game and things going on, on the screen).

[PFFT]

Nope! According to Polygon there was no slowdown or screen tearing whatsoever even when the zombie horde became bigger and the zombie disposal attacks became gorier and flashier. The game still retained its 30fps and the gameplay remains smooth.

[mkis007]

Apparently they use variable resolution to make sure the fps stays at 30. Or was that a rumor?

[JokesOnYou]

Hmmm thats good a solid 30fps is just fine for this type of game, its just nice to see devs not afraid of criticism all while they keep working hard to fix issues before launch.

DR3 with hundreds of zombies on screen, huge open world maps that are bigger and more detailed than its predecessors combined, all with no load times, co op mode, no time limit or optional time limit, weapon and vehicle customization, smartglass and Kinect functionality theres just so much to love all in one package which is why DR3 sounds like an amazing next gen gaming experience.

I cant wait to pick this up day ONE.

[P0werVR]

This makes sense.

I was kinda wondering what fps DR3 would be. But knew that it won't be 60fps. INSANE scale of zombies in one go?! yeah, highly unlikely.

[SilentNegotiator]

Now we need to know what the native resolution is.

[Jack_Of_All_Blades]

I was excited about this game when I first heard about it, but the more I see and here about it I am getting a little less enthrilled about it. I am sure DR4 will be better as it will be later in the generation and games always look and run better further into a generation, too bad it's not for PC, but oh well.

[ChrisW]

Unless your TV can actually support 60hz, 120hz, or more refresh rates, getting excited about a game having more than 30 fps means NOTHING.

And if your TV is more than 5 years old, strong chances are it doesn't have more than a 30hz refresh rate.

[Eonjay]

The game is running much smoother than before. If you look at the screenplay though, there are fare less zombies than before. Before they had like 60 -70 on screen zombies at once, Now its just a few dozen at most. DR3 is currently the highest preordered of all the Xbox One exclusives.

[pixelsword]

This is supposed to be 72p right?

[sonarus]

@ chris w i actually recently bought a 120hz tv for the specific purpose of the next gen consoles coming in so i would certainly be expecting to play a lot of 60fps games this generation. Granted its still a launch title and not all games need to be 60fps but anyone who has played call of duty will tell you how that frame rate pays off so lets not pretend like it doesn't matter at all

[Army_of_Darkness]

@chrisw
Dude, every tv supports at least 60hz for the past 10 years as far as I know and it makes a big difference. I'm sure you can see the difference when you play a cod gave vs. Bf3 on consoles for example.

[wishingW3L]

all TVs with color are 60hz minimum and 120hz/etc. is just a scam, an excuse to justify the price-tag of a more expensive display. 120hz TVs are just 60hz display with a post process that duplicates frames to simulate smoother motion but in practice it only increases the amount of latency by a lot.

When buying a TV what you should look is for the quality of the panel. As of now there is nothing better than IPS for LCD's.

[Blaze929]

definitely great news. Anyone complaining wasn't interested in this game to begin with and just trolling - because if you were, you'd know how terrible this game was running just a few months ago with everything its doing.

[Blachek]

To anybody that might complain about 30 FPS, watch gameplay and tell me it doesn't look smooth enough.

Let how a game looks & runs be the barometer for how it looks... and runs. Not some FPS or 720 vs 1080 statistic.

[wishingW3L]

after playing sub 30 frames games on consoles since the 90's any consistent frame-rate will look smooth. XD

It's like after playing on 480i for so many years even 720p looks mighty impressive but now we want 1080p on every game.

[DoubleM70]

You mean thousands of Zombies :)

[LackTrue4K]

Is this game open world??

How many fps are on GTA5,

[whoyouwit04]

"How many fps are on GTA5"

It doesn't matter because GTA5 doesn't have thousands of AI on screen at once.

[HaMM4R]

Not that I agree with onyoursistersback in any way, but to GTAs credit even though it doesn't have thousands of AI on screen at once it does run on current gen consoles which is something that I highly doubt DR3 will be able to do. A solid 30fps is more than enough for the style of game and hopefully it will have a 1080p native res. Its titles like that which make me wish I had the money for PS4 and xbox one.

[MRMagoo123]

@whoyouwit

There is no I in the DR3 A.I lol the zombies are about as non intelligent as an NPC can be in a game.

[dale_denton]

so much screen tear waiting to happen lol

[Bobby Kotex]

You xbox fanboys are freaking ponderous sometimes. 30 fps is nothing to be excited about.

[Ragthorn]

Lol you are a Sony Fan boy, 30 FPS is really good considering the amount of stuff going on screen. If you think you can do better go ahead and try to do it at the same graphical fidelity and amount of stuff going on screen. Go on do it since you think thats an easy task.

[SDIII]

Love it when Xbots try and defend their precious inferior console lmao. Come on guys just admit it, the ps4 does EVERYTHING better. I bet this game would run at 60fps on the ps4.

[RAFFwaff]

what? Like Battlefield 4......

[BallsEye]

It was said even a 1000 zombies wthout slowdowns in newest build. Great for a launch title I say!

[sklorbit]

As a person who doesnt have a problem at with 30fps, I have to say this is not "good news," merely acceptable.

It is acceptable, because anything less would be unacceptable, especially for next gen. Also to be honest while the game does look great, it isnt the type of next gen game that will blow people away graphics wise.

[snipab8t]

Why would people disagree this?

[Ps4Console]

I thought 30fps were well & truly over come on it's supposed to be next gen & they promised us 60fps last gen , we were getting 30fps on the orginal Xbox & Ps2 what is up gamers .

[kewlkat007]

I think I want a fun game for my first game with the Xbox One and I will get this game...

[B-radical]

So glad they fixed this

[Hufandpuf]

Good job. I'd be pissed if I bought the game and it stuttered all over the place.

[n4rc]

Gee... 60fps and 1080p is the invisible marker for next gen huh?

I had counter-strike running at 1600x1200 @ 100fps back in what? 2000?

It means nothing except to people that flock to near meaningless stats... Like people that hunt for the highest megapixel camera or the highest wattage speakers thinking it muat be better because one number is bigger!

You make marketing so easy.. Lol

[ShwankyShpanky]

Counterstrike always was a graphics-intensive game, after all.

[n4rc]

Lol.. OK I'll give you that one.. Still the best fps ever made

But my point was... Its a weak argument, most people can't even tell the difference between upscaled or native 1080p..

And every single game can run 60fps or above if they kept worlds andddetails smaller... Games that need to be 60fps are. Others benefit from the prettier side or the coin

[MineHaxx]

The human eye can see about 20fps,It can also see at 300FPS,But then some parts of our body needs to be shut down.

[viveks86]

Phew!

[IamTheStorm81]

Such a relief because the framerate was terrible just a couple of months ago.

Can't wait to pick this up with my XBO!

[PFFT]

Yep day one for me as well.

[ceedubya9]

Same here.

[Bobby Kotex]

30 fps is terrible.

[IamTheStorm81]

For an open world game with no loading time, that is completely streamed, that has hundreds of characters on the screen at one time, and is a launch title, a locked-in 30fps is really great.

All things considered I don't know how anyone can reasonably dispute that.

[No_Limit]

Yup, 30 fps is terrible just like Drive Club, Killzone SF single player campaign, and inFamous SS. eyes roll.

[sklorbit]

a smooth 30fps is serviceable, not terrible. and dont give me that bullshit that it gives you a headache or some shit like that, cause unless you were born in 2005 it is what gamers dealt with for decades without complaint.

[FamilyGuy]

I get the relief that it's locked at 30fps, it's just those guys that are praising 30fps as if it were something we haven't been use to that need to stop.
Most current gen games are locked at 30fps, the really heavy action games are the ones that fall below 30/have an unstable 30fps.

As far as having tons of enemies on screen at once, I saw there was a lot in the first trailer and it's cool but it didn't blow me away either. Combining items to form a new weapon was awesome though. I grew up playing Dynasty Warriors on PS2... PS 2. It's always had tons of enemies on screen at once though it also had huge slow downs because of it. Number of enemies on screen at once just isn't that big a deal.

Anyway, it's good to hear they cleaned this up, I really don't want Capcom going bankrupt from people losing interest. Despite all their DLC money grabbing they're still a company that made many of the games I played as a child. Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the Snes was one of my all time favorites. I'd really miss these guys.

[pyramidshead]

Finally!

[Bellcross]

I'll wait for other gaming sites to chime in, I don't trust polygon's words.

[PFFT]

Watch the Pax Prime demo. That demo was already running on this new build. No frame rate problems nor screen tearing. The game was running amazingly smooth.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[kewlkat007]

So fn Awesome.

Day one

[True_Samurai]

Good good *rubs hands like Birdman*

[hollabox]

Not that impressed with DR3, now Forza 5 is a different story. Yes I know DR3 has hundreds of zombies on screen and all that jazz, it just looks too much like LFD but with more polygons per character.

[abusador]

Racing games arent as technically complex as these other types of games, especially open world games. Last gen we even had racers such as GT at 1080p with close to 60fps but fluctuating at times, so seeing racing games look impressive next gen doesn't do anything for me (especially given so many shortcuts that turn 10 has taken in terms of pre baked backdrops, no night/day, etc...), neither fighters.

Not to say Forza doesnt look good because it does but im just saying. A game with tons of npcs on screen with a steady 30fps and good details is more impressive imo.

[hollabox]

Its more about the Art direction, DR1 looked colorful and bright but low polygonal characters. DR 2 is a couple of years old now but I can honestly say DR 3 is not that much of an upgrade. DR 3 depending on the scene has this grayish to brownish tone I don't particular care for.

DR3 art style looks less detailed when compared to DR2. What's the point of having 100's of characters on screen when the color saturation and art style fail so showcase the complexity of the character model? I own DR1, and DR2, impressed with both, but DR3 might be the first game in the series I will skip.

DR1
http://download.gamezone.co...

DR2

http://static.giantbomb.com...

http://static.giantbomb.com...

http://www.thegamesrack.com...

http://cache.gawkerassets.c...

DR3
http://www.gamerzines.com/w...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/0...

http://www.thecoolector.com...

http://www.technobuffalo.co...

[svoulis]

Hm, As much as DR3 will most likely be fun and a good time. Its hard for me to not notice how the game looks like the others in the series with no real "graphical" advancement (aside from more Zombies on screen)

http://images.gamersyde.com...

^the actual unedited screenshot from Gamersyde.com

It looks worse then GTA V to me. So honestly this wont be a Day 1 for me but I will get Ryse for sure.

Well, thats also if I do decide to get a Xbox One around Christmas (as a present)

[hollabox]

@ svoulis

Exactly my point, not that graphics are everything but it still needs to impress me. Otherwise what's the point of buying HDTVs and surround sound systems? DR3 is just flat looking with generic characters and Zombies.

[abusador]

Im happy for you fans who will be getting this game. All across the board on every console its good to see technical stuff like this getting handled well and for the benefit of the gamers. Nothing wrong with my neighbor playing Dead Rising at 30 fps and killing hordes of zombies and having a blast, while im next door playing Kz Sf killing some Helgast lol

[BG11579]

I'm wondering if they had to do some compromising in order to attain the 30Fps...
Well time, will tell.

[Belking]

xbox-one baby.hundreds of zombies and no loading times at 30FPS.....yes indeed.

[badz149]

no loading time? lol　someone is delusional!

[Chris12]

He's talking about in game, which has been discussed as a feature many times.

[PrimeGrime]

Just funny not seeing all the people bragging about how everything on Xbox One will be 1080p, 60fps anymore. Now that reality is setting in, people seem to be making more turns than Microsoft has.

When all you saw before was Xbox One fans trashing any other games that ran at lower resolution or at 30fps. Somehow the system was claimed to so powerful because it can do 4k gaming and run everything in 1080p at 60fps right?

Ryse isn't even 1080p and this is locked to 30fps.

I personally don't care that much about that in general, I am fine with 720p and 30fps any day but its the fact that so many Xbox One supporters tried to down play everything before like no game was worthy of playing unless it was 1080p, 60fps.. Just made me have to make a comment about it.

What fools they look like now.

Anyway good to see they have a solid frame rate now, it was terrible before. I mean I am completely fine with 30fps but once it starts dropping below that it can become pretty noticeable.

[DialgaMarine]

It's all Xbox fans know how to do. Whenever a ball isn't in their court, it almost instantly becomes irrelevant. Notice how since the PS3 has had more higher rated exclusives, on top of surpassing 360 in WW sales, suddenly those arguments don't exists. Same goes for how the PS3 has far more exclusives, and the PS4 will be the superior platform for indies. They're nothing more than childish little hypocrites at this point.

Even better is that They have pretty zero arguments to claim the XBone better than PS4, besides their own personal manipulated opinion.

[Clarence]

I think its blind fanboys who don't want to look at the facts.

[starchild]

Oh, please, you delusional fanboy. Sony fanboys are just as guilty of moving goal posts and selective blindness as anybody. I could make a list of dozens of examples of Sony fanboys flipflopping on different issues.

[Hicken]

@starchild: What goalposts have Sony fanboys moved?

Make that list. I'd really like to see it.

The ONLY thing MS fanboys have done since the 7th generation's start has been keep shifting the argument to suit their needs. This acceptance of Dead Rising's performance stats is just one more thing, since they've been blasting every PS4 game that isn't either 1080P or 60fps.

And here you are, defending them while attacking Sony fans, as usual.

Isn't that weird?

[XboxFun]

@Hicken

"What goalposts have Sony fanboys moved?"

Hmmm, let me see...

- Sony will never charge for multiplayer
- Oh, that's okay PS+ is such a great deal

- 8 Gigs of RAM dedicated to Games!
- Oh that's okay, you don't need 8 gigs to make a great game

- We don't need or want Cross game chat!
- Hooray PS4 has Cross game chat!

- We love the power of the cell!
- Hooray, Sony ditched the power of the cell!

- MS's E3 will only be Kinect focused
- *silence*

- Give the Vita a year!!!
- Vita doesn't need a price drop!!
- Everyone was clapping at the Vita reveal!!

C'mon now, you guys move those goal posts so many times that it's even hard for you to score.

Funny how games and exclusives once mattered to you Sony fanboys and now it went from RAM, hUMA to 1080p and 60 FPS. Ammo is getting pretty thin over there, I expect a full surrender soon.

[DialgaMarine]

You mean like how most Xbox fans have already surrendered? Xbox no longer has the advantage of online features. It no longer has the advantage of hardware. No longer has the advantage of sales. No longer has the advantage of media features. No longer has the advantage of superior indie support. No longer has the advantage of price. You Xbots try to pretend that it has the advantage of games, when any moron who has researching skills beyond the N4G homepage can clearly see the PS4 destroys in the games category too. XBone literally has no advantages over the PS4 to make it the better system, and you XBot kids know it. You're only buying it because you're dumbass little sheep that can't stand to admit that another product no made by your favorite might actually be better.

Sure, Sony fans flip flop a lot too, but at least they still give legitimate arguments for why their opinion changed, and don't just pretend their previous argument never existed. With Xbots, it's literally night and day.

[strifeblade]

I think what you describe is not limited to the x1 fanboys. Its on both sides of the fence as well. Its only natural that when one believes he has that card he will play it. It happens in politics, it happens with fanboys and it happens everywhere- its human nature lol.

[Hicken]

"Oh, that's okay PS+ is such a great deal."

And people still aren't happy about it. PS+ just softens the blow.

"Oh that's okay, you don't need 8 gigs to make a great game."

Evidenced by the PS3, 360, and Wii. No Sony fan ever said 8GB was NEEDED. Cut the crap and stop making things up.

"Hooray PS4 has Cross game chat!"

I'm afraid you'll have to show me that one, as I've seen most people saying they still don't care.

"Hooray, Sony ditched the power of the cell!"

Again, making things up. Nobody celebrated the Cell no longer being used, but they DID understand the change and how significant it would be. Once more, I need you to show this response, cuz right now it's just you creating a situation for the sake of your argument.

"MS's E3 will only be Kinect focused."

Once more, SHOW IT. I seem to recall everybody HOPING it wouldn't be more TV crap. Had you talked about the reveal, that'd be something else entirely. And even then, it wouldn't be a flip-flop.

"Give the Vita a year!!!"

Yep, lots of people did say it. But lots also stated they never expected the Vita to sell like the 3DS(which is what you're implying).

"Vita doesn't need a price drop!!"

And it sure as hell didn't, at the time that was being said. Not the mention: where's the flop, here?

"Everyone was clapping at the Vita reveal!!"

About what? Just the price drop? PS Vita TV? The drop for the memory cards? And once more, I'm not hearing a goalpost that was moved.

Again, games STILL matter. Oh, and for the record, hardware has ALWAYS mattered, too. You even brought it up yourself when referencing PS fanboys apparently "moving the goalpost" about the Cell. So, now, you've contradicted yourself.

MS has supplied all the ammo against them anyone could need, and yet Sony's got plenty of bullet points of their own.

[FlunkinMonkey]

@Hicken

Good job... XboxFun - Burnt. Scolded. Charred.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

This is really good news for those looking to get DR3 since the framerate was called into question before. As for all the Dbags trying to claim this game isn't next gen...please just stop. You are looking foolish...this game would not run on current gen consoles plain and simple with out major concessions.

[T2]

I think thats a bit of a stretch ... It looks large but explain to me how this game is vastly different than dynasty warriors , crackdown , or even dead rising 2 ... It for sure looks better but not possible on current gen ? Im not buying it ... Enemies are still copies and gotta see the AI to assess ... If zombies all just huddle around then its no great improvement ...
Game looks fun though and thats what counts

[starchild]

The amount of detail in Dead Rising 3 is vastly greater than the games you mentioned.

The amount of textures, shader effects, geometry, and other graphical elements of Dead Risisng 3 couldn't run in its present form on current gen consoles. It could be downgraded to run on current consoles, but the same goes for KZSF and any other next gen game.

[BattleReach]

30 fps, 900p.. quite dissapointing.

[ape007]

dude if you're so critical of some stuff that usually happen in the beginning of each gen, then what do u think of lack of dedicated servers for ps4 in a huge scale like X1

[BattleReach]

I wasnt talking about PS4. I'm not going next gen so I dont join the console wars, but if a game on the beginning of a genneration can't handle 60 fps, then a game at the end of the next generation cant handle it at all.

[Nekroo91]

sorry but ps4 still has 100 thousand dedicated servers, and btw most dedicated servers are provided by game devs not sony or ms.

[Angels3785]

You realize microsoft is playing catch up with those dedicated servers. All of Sony's first party titles have always been dedicated servers. Not a single halo game has been, they've been P2P. Most people didn't like that because of host advantage. Also at least now microsoft has a justifiable reason for charging for multiplayer..before you actually paid microsoft to connect to infinity wards servers or treyarch's servers for cod (and it was similar for many other games. It is really is one of the few generous surprises coming out of microsoft that is an undeniable argument.

[Brazz]

calm man, no war here!
the guy just said that 900p and 30 fps is disapointing, no wolrds of console A or B.
in my opinion 30 fps is good considering the Massive numbers of zombies and considering that this is the "1º generation of x1 games".
looks promising, X1 players will be well served whit this.

[T2]

@ape - you continue to spout this lie like the desperate fool you are ... Sony has had dedicated servers forever and plenty of them

[ape007]

^^^^^^^

i love it when some people get high dosage of truth and then bust and make funny statements left and right

dude xbox live cloud is huge, broad and fully support all games, sony has em for a very few selective games

facts

[Ps4Console]

Your so right to be honest this is not the orginal Xbox or Ps2 when we were having 25fps to 30fps they promised us 60fps on the last generation but we only got them on a handful of games , so it does not matter that it's early into the next generation they should be putting out 60fps come on guys this is not the 000's .

[lastofgen]

I'm glad they worked out those issues. This has definitely shot up my list to get for this christmas.

[kingduqc]

"next gen"

[urwifeminder]

Great stuff will be getting this and forza as my launch games im gonna have me some fun.

[jspillen]

Polygon was funded by over $750,000 of Microsoft money.

Their reviews have been ridiculously bad towards every Sony item.

DONT READ THIS REVIEW ... don't give them the hits.

[Gamer666]

Who cares about their funding...

Deadrising has been an awesome series.

And Deadrising 3 has looked extremely ambitious and awesome in the demos I have seen.

Day 1 purchase for me...

[DivineAssault]

all the dead rising games usually score well but i was never a big fan.. I rent them if anything & since PS4 isnt getting it (for now at least) i guess i wont be playing this one.. It looks cool i must admit but its no system seller in my book.. 30fps is tolerable considering that 99% of the games this gen ran that way

[jackdaddy]

30 fps, and that's ok for next gen? lol.
Wow the xbOne must be sooooo powerful my arse.

[bumnut]

If you guys care about resolution and frame rate so much, why game on a console at all? Surely a PC would make you happier because you could play at 2560 x 1440p at 60fps (or higher). Neither of the next gen consoles can match that because HDTVs are only 1920 x 1080.

[5h4h4b]

The answer to your question is bro all of us like to play with better graphics, resolution and fps ( if anyone is against my statement, I want to ask him why is there a need for any next gen system when you could have played ps2 and xbox games until this time) .

The thing is, all of us can't afford a gaming rig to play at such high resolutions and fps. So in the end we have to settle with consoles. I want a console which will provide me with better quality games, both in terms of gameplay and graphics to increase immersion. So far ps4 is doing that for me. Not only launch games are native 1080p ( killzone , resogun, driveclub etc) but I fully believe that Sony's first party studios are renowned for producing games with great graphics and gameplay. Sony's long lasting support for its platform is also proven.

[bumnut]

Thank you for the sensible response. +1 bubble

[gehasoku]

Japanese Game Media says the game is running on 1080p 60fps.
http://game.watch.impress.c...

[boneso82]

How you perceive 30fps compared to 60fps depends massively on the type of TV you have and the quality of that TV.

A cheap LCD/LED TV will not be able to show off a game running at 60fps anything like a decent priced plasma. Plasma screens refresh at up to 600hz and are natively 60hz sets, they also handle motion so much better than LCD screens. Plasma don't suffer from motion blurring or processing artifacts.

But because of the motion blur on LCD screens they tend to display 30fps games better than plasma because plasma screens have to find a way of making a single frame fit within 2 frames of processing, it results in a double image effect on moving images which is quite distracting.

Because I am hoping that most games next gen will be running at 60fps I have invested in a new 60inch Samsung plasma to replace my 47inch LG LCD so everything is silky smooth and colours and black levels are so so much better than any LCD/LED screen. I tried 3 different 55inch LED screens (high end ones, over £1500 each) before going for the plasma (£1249) as the LED's just looked washed out and ridiculously blurry when displaying moving objects in comparison, I would recommend all next gen gamers to go for a similar plasma if possible for the best gaming (and movie) experience.

You basically get a better product for less money, now where have I heard that before...

[esemce]

I'll wait for the PC version. You know Capcom they rehash and re sell just about all of their titles.

Dead rising 3 Ultimate turbo directors cut remix edition.

[bumnut]

Not sure about that, DR1 did not come to PC, only DR2.

[Steelmanner]

You know what, I never really understood the debate between 30fps and 60fps. To tell the truth it looks about the same to me, so if DR3 is running smoothly at 30fps I am perfectly happy with that.