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Techland: Xbox One & PS4 will reach "maximum performance much sooner"

Examiner: "Bethesda Softworks thinks that it will take at least six years to hit the maximum optimization of the Xbox One and PS4 after they release. But today, in an exclusive interview with Game On, Techland COO Pawel Zawodny commented with his thoughts on the matter."

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EXVirtual3862d ago (Edited 3862d ago )

Well, I guess that's the point of having an x86 architecture. Now what worries me is that publishers will tap out the systems in 3-5 years and say: 'We can't make innovative games, due to limitations. Rich of RTU has this concern too, but it's really just an excuse for publishers to put out the same crap over and over again. Obviously not all, but some.

I definitely don't think this gen is gonna last 10 years, I'd say 5-7. I've never seen a piece of hardware that hasn't been replaced or updated in 10 years. That being said, the consoles won't be on max optimization for at least 3 years. PS4 especially.

thrust3862d ago

The x86 architecture use to have 4gig ram limit years ago has this changed now?

Dark_Overlord3862d ago (Edited 3862d ago )

Rather than hit you with a disagree, I thought you'd prefer an explanation :)

You're referring to the 32bit version of the x86 instruction set, which did indeed have a limit (about 3.5GB I believe), the new consoles use the 64bit version of the x86 instruction set which can address far more memory :)

EDIT - Theoretical limits

16 bit = 65,536 bytes (64 Kilobytes)

32 bit = 4,294,967,295 bytes (4 Gigabytes)

64 bit = 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 (16 Exabytes)

Gaming_Guru3862d ago

Because the console will be maxed out sooner it doesn't mean there will be less innovation. If anything it will push developers for better games since it will be more about the gameplay than anything else equaling the playing field with indie developers to a degree.

redwin3862d ago

In not too far future, with dedicated servers and the cloud, PS4 and the Xbox, won't have to rely on hardwear. The console will just login to the Sony and Microsoft domain and we'll just play. I think I'll come to how fast your connection is and how good us your display.

Jeedai Infidel3861d ago (Edited 3861d ago )

@EXVirtual That's what the Wii is for, after 3 years if they can't look any better, then pull the Wii out and play it for two weeks then go back to Ps4/Xbox1 and viola, graphics look great again.

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user74029313862d ago

im excited to see what they roll out on ps4 in late 2014 (tech wise) imagine a terminator 2 game developed by naughty dog, using frostbite 3.

Spinal3862d ago (Edited 3862d ago )

Lool that just sounds terrible.

A game about running from the T1000 using vehicles an shooting back at the machine that's chasing u? Lool terrible.

Movie games suck for a reason. An vice versa movies based on a game. Street fighter I'm looking at you.

Gr1mmyshadows3862d ago

thank God you're not a game designer or developer

OpieWinston3862d ago

WHAT?

Terminator? Awesome

Naughty Dog? Not really experienced in that style of action gameplay that Terminator fans would demand. Not to mention Arnold Terminator fans.

Frostbite 3? Dice made all iterations of Frostbite, and it's licensed out to EA owned studios.

All in all, you clearly shouldn't have a say in anything gaming related.

beerzombie3862d ago

Even as an Xbox fan that's what I want to play and why I think the cameras and cloud in both systems are great for gamming.

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gaelic_laoch3862d ago

Looks like the Xbone has already been maxed out in comparison to the PS4 unless that is the CLOUD can float to the rescue!

thrust3862d ago

Do you have a link to show the Xbox one maxed out?

thrust3862d ago (Edited 3862d ago )

Is ryse running on the ps4 now?

Bf4 are the same on both consoles, unless you have the same game you have no argument.

P.s that was not a link.

PFFT3862d ago

You sir gaelic are a fool.
But whatever helps you sleep better at night.

Gr1mmyshadows3862d ago

honestly how BIG of a difference is 1080p to 900p, and im sure not all games on the ps4 is going to run 1080p

Nekroo913862d ago

actually its really makes a difference in small things like vegetation. looks way more clear

eplusr3862d ago (Edited 3862d ago )

@gaelic

If you aren't getting one why do you even care? I first joined n4g to actually read articles and constructive comments and soon realized that the site is filled with extremes on both ends of the spectrum.

Can't we all just get along tech is tech no need for folks in both camps to keep justifying their purchases with the mine is better than yours nonsense.

I get it one is more powerful than the other frankly I could care less because as a gamer I'm looking forward to the best both worlds have to offer. And at the end of the day the only thing that really matters are the games you'd do well to remember that.

Skynetone3862d ago

xbone looks like its tapped out already, killer instinct 720p, ryse 900p, Dead Rising 3 has a dynamic resolution, the only game hitting 1080p is forza, its looking like it really was meant to a tv box

HappyTrigger3862d ago

I guess we're forgetting that the 360 launched with a bunch of sub-HD titles which looked like Xbox 1 titles rendered in higher resolution. Fast forward 8 years later and now we're getting beasts like GTA V.

Did you also forget that The Order 1886 isn't rendering at full 1080p? But really at 1920x800 with a 2.40:1 aspect ratio? Maxed out?

Come on people, these consoles haven't released yet. Give the developers some time to completely understand the architecture.

Gr1mmyshadows3862d ago

it only makes sense to wait for the consoles to release and wait 2-3 yrs before claiming what half these fanboys claim

Skips3862d ago (Edited 3862d ago )

"Did you also forget that The Order 1886 isn't rendering at full 1080p?"

A game that has absolutely no gameplay shown yet, no release date, and is not even close to being finished, and not to mention it's coming from PSP devs. -_- How is that in any way comparable to a launch title made by Crytek? Or hell, even Respawn? http://www.thegamersdrop.co...

Let me guess, you got that from a few screenshots? lol

Just sayin...

HappyTrigger3861d ago (Edited 3861d ago )

@Skips

I may have gotten a little ahead of myself on that one with the The Order 1866 but the cinematics are definitely being rendered at 1920x800 (with black bars to compensate for them). Not sure about the actual gameplay though.

But my point still stands when I say that we should wait for the developers to get a grip of the new architecture. Launch titles are always going to have some sacrifices because most of the time they rush them to the market in time for the launch of the console.

OpieWinston3862d ago

Killer Instinct 3 started development in February...Double Helix showed 3 playable characters at E3. And have done an amazing job working on the game.

Ryse: Son of Rome is running on Cryengine 4th generation edition, which means it's the first game using this engine and Crytek still haven't finished the game.

It looks like it's meant to be a tv box? I seriously hate fanboys like you. Just basing everything on your blind outlook.

Call me a "Xbox One fanboy" if you want, I've been a longtime fan of Nintendo/Playstation (until PS3 launched) and don't have any regrets.

One day I'll pick up a PS4, and it won't be for the specs of console.

How stupid does that sound? Someone buying a console for specs... Just buy a nice gaming desktop FFS.

Vames3862d ago

Fanboys like you don't think, that's why the comment system is such a mess. Dead Rising 3 is an open world game, which means it won't run at 1080p. There's so much more going in Ryse compared to Deep Down, I mean, look at the fucking gameplay? Ryse has more enemies on screen along with friendlies tearing at each other, Deep Down is basically Dark Souls for next gen.

beerzombie3862d ago

So true next gen is not all about how a game looks. even though it helps for emersion its Ai and the other tech under the hood the will determine great games.

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Techland Talks Dying Light 2 "Secret Formula" for Success, No Intention of Going Full Live Service

Dying Light 2 developer Techland talks about the "secret formula" to their games' success, and comments on how they see live service games.

UltimateOwnage27d ago

Good. Live Services are trash for the most part.

AuraAbjure27d ago

Rainbow 6 Siege from December 2015 is not even comparable to whatever that thing is today they call Siege.

banger8826d ago

Dying Light 2 was horrible. I played it at launch and it was a buggy and broken piece of shit. I didn't enjoy the game's locale either. They've released a ton of patches and updates for it though, and I'm somewhat keen to give it another chance. But the game left a horrible impression on me, especially seeing as how the first one was my favourite game last gen.

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Techland's next chapter and the road ahead

Pawel writes: "Today I am happy to announce the partnership with Tencent who are in the process of becoming Techland's majority shareholder."

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SimpleSlave266d ago

"We will retain full ownership of our IPs, maintain creative freedom, and continue to operate the way we believe is right. I'm also going to continue serving as the studio’s CEO."

Unless it angers China and Winnie the Poop. Then I'm out of a job and we'll be fu...Ahem. Anyways. Please clap and be excited!

Thank you!

o( _ _ )o All Hail our Megacorp Overlord! Hail Hydra!!

Christopher266d ago

I question this stuff sometimes because it seems too good to be true. Same thing with Bungie. Is it really that they can make those decisions or can the owner, much like a Starbucks that just closes down a branch that attempts to unionize, truly in power and can just replace those with people that will just agree with them?

SimpleSlave266d ago (Edited 266d ago )

It's all PR talks. They're trying not to spook the fan base and partners for now. At the end of the day, owning the majority means Tencent has the final say. And they WILL crack down on Techland if they do anger the Overlords.

On the plus side, I'm sure Tencent will pass sweeping internal changes making sure this never happens. So no worries there...

P_Bomb266d ago

New open world fantasy action rpg is going well apparently. Been watching some Dying Light 2 endgame as well. We’ll see how it all turns out.

neutralgamer1992266d ago

Dead island 2 is a better game than dying light 2. So whatever you do please make more fun games

got_dam266d ago

I seem to be in a minority here... but... I really like dying light 2. Yeah, they neutered the night time scares but the overall gameplay was way better. And you can block without that shitty riot shield.

CoNn3rB266d ago

Same as you, I enjoyed my time with Dying Light 2, I don't think it was as good as the first one but it was a pretty good game overall.

There's a new update that is either out now or coming very soon that is supposed to reinvigorate the night-time sections of the game among other things. Might be worth playing again with that update as they've also added a lot of other QoL changes as well.

Masterchief_thegoat266d ago

china and winnie the pooh getting majority shareholder is not a great.

crazyCoconuts266d ago

More consolidation... Not good.
I really hope that the main "asset" with a company like tech land is it's people, and if you jerk around the people, they'll leave and make great games for someone else, maybe start something new.
Maybe tools like unreal will lower the barriers to entry to make this easier?
Dunno, trying to be optimistic that this, too, will pass.
Ultimately if they can't make good games, the investment will fail and the good people will move on.. I hope

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Techland Reveals Unannounced AAA Fantasy RPG with First Image

Techland has finally revealed a preview of its unannounced AAA fantasy open world action-RPG.

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RaidenBlack700d ago

Keep using the C-Engine.
Just update it with more higher-quality assets and effects.

senorfartcushion700d ago

What is it with companies making fantasy RPGs? There’s 3 or 4 new ones announced every day at this point. It’s the same stuff over and over again.

isarai700d ago

Not really, only ones i know of are Avowed and Elder Scrolls VI

jBlakeeper699d ago

You’re forgetting Forspoken.

isarai699d ago

@jBlakeeper

Well seeing as how we really haven't seen just how the gameplay loop and character building works, i'd say that's too early to call atm

phoenixwing700d ago

I buy pretty much every fantasy rpg if it's passable score wise like 6 or 7 on up. Blame me lol I don't care because I like them and I'm not alone

FalcorMononoke699d ago

You ever play Kingdoms of Amalur or Dragon's Dogma? Both bangers.

phoenixwing699d ago

Own both bought them twice on PlayStation and pc

esherwood699d ago

I’ve heard that about dragons dogma but it just felt to clunky. Couldn’t get into it but people love it

smashman98699d ago

The year is 2006. There are space marines everywhere. I mind my own business and play my fantasy rpgs.

senorfartcushion699d ago

I definitely think it’s an issue of what era we are in. The post-9/11 era of gaming was grey and brown war shooters, but I grew up with those games and really don’t like the fact that, instead of making less of them, linear became a failure of games design, instead of a kind of games design.

Sifu has actually scratched a bit of that itch for me, and hopefully Max Payne’s remakes come through swiftly.

Fantasy games I can live without. I’ve put 9 hours in Assassin’s Creed Valhalla (a kind of fantasy game) and I’m only at the beginning. It’s tedious to do anything and the dialogue is forever cringey 😅😅

“Come brother, let’s storm the field of battle and get our swords wet once more!”

I really hope they literally mean their swords and not “their swords.” Lol

coolbeans699d ago

It's just the nature of genre cycles. A couple of strong ignitors like The Elder Scrolls and Witcher series can inspire dozens of other studios to try their hand at it too.

GreenLit699d ago

When was the last really good one? Most company make half baked RPGs that almost fill a void.

Daeloki699d ago

Fantasy RPG is a pretty wide scope with a fair amount of variation, so even if there were as many announcements as you're claiming, I don't see why it would be a bad thing.

Broncob699d ago

They can make what ever they want lol. Plus it's not the same thing, theme yes but they all vary immensely in terms of art direction, gameplay, story etc etc. If you don't like don't buy it eh

esherwood699d ago

I’m loving it and I’m assuming it’s because people are buying them

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GamesAsAService700d ago

Ok this is really interesting.

It looks like there might be 3 studios working on AAA fantasy open world action RPG's.

Bethesda (ESVI)
Obsidian (Avowed)
and now Techland.

As a fan of the genre generally, this is really cool.

Palitera700d ago

Hellraid became a meh "expansion".
https://store.steampowered....

In open world their mechanics might be really interesting. Really loved Dead Island.

Omnisonne699d ago

Hopefully a proper version of Hellraid, or something close to it.

RaidenBlack700d ago

Playground Games (Fable), Game Science (Wukong, souls-esque though but still counts), BioWare (DA4, last concept vid looked a bit action oriented, might be wrong), CDPR (new Witcher), Capcom (Dragon's Dogma 2, much rumored), SE (FFXVI, seems abit Witcher-esque) ....

GamesAsAService700d ago

I probably should have mentioned classical fantasy, first person, action RPG. I was too vague.

But yes you are right, lots of RPG's to look forward to.

porkChop700d ago

I think it's great to have more games of similar style to The Elder Scrolls. Competition leads to better games, and it'll ease the wait for new TES games.

RaidenBlack699d ago

Yup.
There's another upcoming one called Blacktail.

porkChop699d ago

Hmm don't remember that one. Slavic myths, eh? Sounds interesting.

Yui_Suzumiya700d ago

Maybe it's what they originally had planned for Hellraid before it became what it did in Dying Light.

Duke19700d ago (Edited 700d ago )

Looking at Techland's previous work, I hope its a mix of Dying Light and Pure Farming Simulator 2018!

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