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Mark Cerny Talks About How They Built the PS4: “It has What we Think it Needs”

PlayStationLifeStyle: With the majority of the Grand Theft Auto V festivities taken care of today, we can now move on to other topics, including one that involves an interview between Mark Cerny and OPM that took place in a recent issue of the magazine.

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mewhy323866d ago

Simply the most powerful console ever.

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Regis3866d ago

Watch this after this humiliation Microsoft will release the new next gen console and make 5 times better then the PS4 or 5

JuniorCE3866d ago

Do you believe in Santa too?

GamersRulz3866d ago

I'm afraid this gen will be MS last, just like Sega.

both killed by Sony

Regis3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

Jeez guys I'm JOKING its hard to display sarcasm over the Internet.

@JuniorCE I did like to believe in sweet things,but thanks to my parents I can't have nice things.

Nekroo913866d ago

@GamerRulz youre afraid? im praying for this gen to be the MS last, so samsumg can buy it and actually make something good from xbox

Magicite3866d ago

only 5? write 50, then we will believe.

miyamoto3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

Sony did not kill Sega.

In fact Sony and Sega of America already had a proposal for a 32 bit console turned down by Sega Japan even before Ken Kutaragi proposed to Nintendo.

http://www.usgamer.net/arti...

Get your facts straight.

Sony was just an experienced consumer electronics master at that time.

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TomShoe3866d ago

Simply the BEST console ever.

With respect to the PS2.

dcj05243866d ago

I like the ps4 but it can't be the best until it at least comes out.

ZHZ903866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

PS4TW!

Even MS admited it.

EDIT: PS4 will defintely be great as PS1/PS2 era and better than PS3 era by the well of God.

3-4-53866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

I can't wait to make the PS4 my First Sony console ever.

The thing is, when Cerny takes a "guess" at what we will need or we may want 5 years into the future, the result we get is the PS4.

When other companies do it, we get pay to play, microtransaction, filler, shovelware.

AceBlazer133866d ago

Your first sony console? Dude where have you been th past few decades?

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Godmars2903866d ago

Likely off topic, but kind of odd if not another mark against MS that they have - had? - a spokesman who tried to defend his stance by saying he had nothing to do with designing the XB1, and here Sony has as their key spokesman the guy who designed the PS4. So he has no excuse in not knowing what he's talking about.

iamnsuperman3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

Well Microsoft do need a guy like this but it can also back fire if not done correctly. Microsoft (as a whole) has been trying to shake a nerdy image for some time (since the rise of Apple and their pretentiousness). I know it is bad to say this but having a geeky guy at the front can be quite damaging because it can make the device seem geeky and uncool. Saying that, Cerny has been doing very well to not portray that image (which is helped by other PR guys making the device seem cooler leaving him to just talk about the specs to those who care). If Microsoft were going to do it they need to be careful about how they do it (balance)

u got owned3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

I don't think MS will do it anyway. Its clearly Sony's marketing strategy is "we have the most powerful console". While MS strategy is "All in one". Anyway in the end PS4 is more powerful so i don't see the point of MS playing a game they know they'll loose.

thehitman3866d ago

TBH w/ all the celebrities they hire 1 geeky guy wouldnt hurt them. But then again it would help if that "geeky" guy could actually boast and talk about their product in confidence and not hide the discrepancies in less power compared to the competition.

Godmars2903866d ago

@u got owned:

At this point Sony's message is, "We're honest" or at least more foreword in what we say than the other guy.

WeAreLegion3866d ago

I think the majority of people don't care if someone is "geeky" or "nerdy" anymore. We're more concerned with a spokesperson being real with us.

Just look at the current successful marketing campaigns. Cool can only get you so far. Respect is more powerful.

miyamoto3866d ago

M$ can not afford idiots speaking anymore for them like Greenberg, Tsunoda, Molyneux, Hryb Major Nelson, and that anti-nuclear sub guy Mattrick.

And Sony only needs one honest to goodness genius man to speak.

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FamilyGuy3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

Who was the lead architect on the Xbox One anyway? O.o

Tried googling it but it seems they never mention one.

Bathyj3866d ago

That would be a good slogan.

Ps4. It has what I need.

Where's my meme generator?

Godmars2903866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

PS4: Gives you what you need in what you want.

(*MUST RESIST XBOX ONE MOTO...!*)

Hazmat133866d ago

PS4! ITS GOT ELECTROLYTES!!!!!!!!!

miyamoto3866d ago

Xbox One.
Deal With It.

lol! That will probably hold true in its entire life cycle.

PS4.
Play More and More

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SniperControl3866d ago

"If we have great games, people will come"

Wow, that is damn deep.

Thats why iam buying a PS4 day one.

WeAreLegion3866d ago

Cerny is all about inspirational sports movies starring Kevin Costner.

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Mark Cerny talks Dolby Atmos support for PlayStation 5

Mark Cerny talks to Digital Foundry about how Dolby Atmos support made its way to PlayStation 5.

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crazyCoconuts248d ago

Cerny points out the advantage that DF keeps referring to as a disadvantage. Developers don't need to do anything special to have overhead sounds mapped to height speakers. It's all built in and processed lag free on existing and future PS5 games. This is obviously a superior approach imo as it works with virtually any speaker configuration.

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neutralgamer1992247d ago

DF have been very negative when it comes to PlayStation. Very nit-picky

ABizzel1247d ago

I like DF, but they’re starting to let personal bias seep into their talking points especially John, and the others are being occasional followers just to be non-confrontational.

just_looken247d ago

Its just like the ps3 or any receiver over 8yrs old

2015 ps3 had support then got updated
https://games.dolby.com/new...

Man the ps5 is digging up the past to reveal its new hey are they going to have a menu next with native 7.1 audio support like my 2006 motor storm edtion ps3?.

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Azfargh247d ago

I see what you did there. Clever

kythlyn247d ago

I have an Atmos setup and in my case it definitely introduces some audio lag... probably around 10-20ms. The game I always use to test this sort of thing is Stray because of the dedicated meow button triggering the sound out of the Dual Sense. Makes it really easy to perceive a lack of audio sync. There's only one setting on PS5 that doesn't produce audio lag (at least with my setup), and that is Linear PCM.

fr0sty247d ago

So you are able to tell 1 frame of latency at 60fps, you're saying...

kythlyn247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

To fr0sty... yes? Not everyone will notice it, but people with trained ears such as musicians definitely will.

Reaper22_247d ago

The truth is that Atmos is superior. Plain and simple. The devil prefer it over what sony is providing. It's the standard for games, movies and music.

DarthZoolu247d ago

It’s definitely the leader of the industry right now

crazyCoconuts247d ago

And what about the PS5 implementation being discussed is NOT Atmos?

Reaper22_247d ago

Only DTS:X is on on par with atmos. I understand Sony wanting to use their own but Atmos is superior which is why is used throughout the entertainment industry.

crazyCoconuts247d ago

I'm trying to point out to you: PS5 is using Atmos. That's the whole point of this firmware update

fr0sty247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

From a hardware perspective, Atmos' 7.1.4 setup is indeed superior, but the software side of Atmos is far from superior. Dolby Atmos games (ISF) supports 32 objects and this is used in a 7.1.4 basebed + 20 dynamic object configuration most of the time. PS5's Tempest audio supports 100 dynamic objects, so it actually has to downmix the audio, dropping 68 objects in the process, to make it work properly over Atmos.

jwillj2k4247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

The truth is marketing is superior. Cant support something that kicks in after the scenes already ended lol

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gold_drake247d ago

i like how calmy and detailed he explained it to the fools at DF.

mastershredder247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

Ah yes Mark, becuase less channels on a watered down feature is something to geek out about. You do realize you are getting atmos light right? Not for audiophiles. Totally designed for craptastic sound systems. It's all about tagging that name for a selling point.

jwillj2k4247d ago

At least it works, what good is a feature that introduces latency to the point it’s potentially “3x as bad” with a certain setup? You can’t even use it and it’s supposed to be a partnership between the two companies….

AmUnRa246d ago (Edited 246d ago )

So you know more then Mark Cerny..the man who made PS5 what it is now...the man who invented with his team the Tempest engine..., if you can read take a lot of tasks over from Atmos...

Woooow...you must be a genius in this field time to get a job In this expertise.

OptimusDK242d ago

I think one might be somewhat biased you can do your own guessing who that is

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PlayStation 5 Lead Architect Mark Cerny Talks Sega, Michael Jackson And Yuji Naka

Mark Cerny is a true veteran of the games industry. His name might be familiar to modern gamers due to the fact that he's worked as lead architect on several of Sony's consoles – and has even had input into some of the company's major software releases, such as Knack, The Last Guardian, Marvel's Spider-Man and Death Stranding – but his career stretches back to the very early years of the games industry.

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deleted447d ago

Lol, love this image...

https://images.timeextensio...

Look at the balls on Cerny! He really does though. One of the greatest minds in the industry and knows how to get things done!

Aloymetal447d ago

I bet he's already working on the PS6, safe bet.

ModsDoBetter447d ago

100%.
I can’t recall which leaker it was but there was a rumour floating about that we may not see a mid-gen refresh (PS5 Pro) and they’re focusing on PS6 development.

Could listen to Cerny talk for hours. Incredibly intelligent individual.

deleted447d ago

he really has a knack for being ahead of the curve!

UltimateRacer447d ago

@olMyerslo Tom Henderson is the insider who stated PS6 is being worked on over a PS5 Pro.

darkrider447d ago

The career of Cerny is really impressive.

purple101447d ago

Is this available in video format? It's a damn long interview to read.. but I will, if no video

Aloymetal447d ago

I haven't checked yet but try YT, maybe they do have it there.

Phoenix76446d ago

Could try using a "text to voice" app. Just copy and paste from the article then sit back and listen. I do that sometimes if don't want to read and am tired.

purple101446d ago

Thanks that's so nice of you but I don't need it that much! Il just read it. Just if there was himself on video I'd like that version. But have a great day my friend.x

Retroman447d ago

Wish Mark Cerny Develope Knack 3 Knack was a Fantastic game.

darkrider447d ago (Edited 447d ago )

I didn't like it very much, but cerny is truly a triple A Men. The ps4 and the ps5 are amazing consoles. What will he try with to achieve with the ps6!

Starman69447d ago

PS4 was good for it's time and for the price. It felt outdated after 2 years. Ps5 on the other hand... Future proof. Excellent 😊👌.

SullysCigar447d ago

I never played the first game, but the second one was great

gold_drake447d ago

i love his breakdowns of the consoles, he explains things very well with that soothing voice ha

Bathyj447d ago

I watched that ps5 reveal about 5 times. A lot of people complainwd about it when it came out for being too clinical and developer centric but I thought it was very informative. I guess they just wanted some flashy CGI trailers of games that won't come out for 4 years.

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Jade Raymond’s studio is making a ‘persistent, scalable online game’ for PS5 and PC

Jade Raymond’s new studio is reportedly set to work closely with PlayStation 5 lead system architect Mark Cerny on its debut game.

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senorfartcushion799d ago

One of the ten games as a service games PlayStation mentioned?

I’m bored of how much online is playing into games now. Offline games still should exist in equal measure.

SeTTriP799d ago

I agree 👍 but they don't make money in equal measure.

SullysCigar799d ago

PlayStation has plenty of offline single player IPs out and in the pipeline, they're not dissappearing.

It seems likely to me that some those online games they speak of will be split among PS5, PC and mobile. People seem to forget how much money those phone games make.

Anything with Mark Cerny's technical eye cast over it has my attention though, so I look forward to finding out more about this one from him and Haven Studios.

Eonjay799d ago

Thank you. People act like they can have online games as a law or somehow it prevents them from making single player games which it clearly doesn't. Just in the pipeline we have Horizen FW, God of War, Spiderman 2 and Wolverine. They already released Reternal, Demon Soluls, Spideman MM, Rachet and Clank and probably more that I'm missing. These things exist, we don't have to speculate or let ourselves be trapped into some group thought. The idea that they ababdoned SP games suddenly is a fantasy from a blog that is trying to generate drama.

darthv72799d ago

... the guy does have a certain 'knack' for things.

gamer7804799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

Third party studios would be best served if they made multiplayer games open to all platforms for the sake of the longevity of the game. I understand first party doing pc + one console because they own the studio. Still interested in what they are making but it’s going to be a looong while.

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moriarty1889799d ago

I agree. Offline games or offline modes should always be available. This online only obsession with every dev lately is going to ruin gaming as a whole imo.

FanboysKiller799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

I agree %110 , but Destiny changed my perspective on seamless online gameplay , but it's still considered one of its kind , nothings like it and that's far from enough to prove itself as a solid argument.

senorfartcushion799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

I have my online games, but the never ending progress in them means that you can’t really swap between games as often as we would like.

I would cite influence advertising as part of the problem. With even single player games being affected by the way gaming “engagement” is perceived.

I’m playing Sifu at the moment on PS5 and Max Payne 3 on Series X. Even the quality of how the games are produced is lessening because of how much studios are trying to appeal to influencers more than customers. Max Payne 3 is a game. It can be hard, it can be easy. Regardless, it’s polished to a mirror shine.

Sifu has great combat and is satisfying to play, but the roguelite stuff within (solely designed to appeal to Twitch players, like the genre as a whole) is a major bummer. People are currently arguing vision. Whether or not the game should be made easier due to how the difficulty doesn’t mesh with some people. Difficult games are fine, but they’ve got to be designed well. Sifu isn’t really. It’s a victim of the roguelite dragon the studio has been chasing. This is a game that deserves to be easier to play, something tells me that they’ve only kept the difficulty high to advertise it on the fact that people will be repeating levels a lot in their time spent playing the game.

The ironic thing about difficulty is the sense of identity people both feel for themselves and feel of the devs, when the devs are arguably going against their own identities by chasing trends.

The issues I have with Sifu starts with multiplayer games. The game itself is arguable an MP game due to how many people watch it on Twitch.

GhostofHorizon799d ago

Just because people watch a game on Twitch doesn't mean it's a multi-player game. This whole post is just some projected nonsense.

Roguelites created for streamers? What?

Sounds like you just don't understand what roguelike and roguelite games are all about.

FanboysKiller799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

@SenorFartCushion
Budget is king , the sad truth about generational leap is being overrated and easily overshadowed by its budget, a triple a game from the last decade or two still holds itself and get liked the way it looked more than its technicality behind it.

ABizzel1799d ago

Offline is the core of the significant majority of PS exclusives on the PS4. It's time for them to build online communities that fans can play and enjoy in-between the waits for these big AAA releases.

I'm all for all 10 of them.

1. Bungies New IP
2. Faction 2 (The Last of Us)
3. Twisted Metal Online (rumored)
4. Guerrilla Games other IP (rumored SOCOM)
5. Deviant Games New IP (former Black Ops COD devs)
6. Haven Studios New IP (Jade Raymond and former Ubisoft devs)
7. Firewalk Studios New IP (former Bungie, Take-2, Activision, EA devs)
8.
9.
10.

So by all means bring them on.

senorfartcushion799d ago

Obviously that’s good. But can you not follow the patterns that literally every other company has been making these last few years? Games as a service multiplayer games are made mostly to rid ones catalogue of any single player only games

ABizzel1799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

@Senor

That's a baseless point. There are significantly more companies that continue to produce single-player experiences, than there are companies that have dropped single-player completely to rid their catalogue of any single player only games. This is fear mongering.

Someone said this best a while ago in a PS Group. Sony is the AAA Blockbuster Film / HBO of gaming. They create premium high quality content. That has allowed them to make a huge comeback during the PS360Wii era, dominate the home console market during the PS4XBOWiiU era, and is what will continue to carry them into the PS5 generation and beyond. How many single player games have they released for the PS5 compared to Live Service games. How many single player games got cancelled for a live service game?

4 of the 7 known Live Service games are from 2nd party developers, so where is this concern from single player games coming from. Naughty Dog is making Factions.....And they've made several multiplayers before without it affecting their single player narrative driven games. Firesprite is a brand new developer under PlayStation, so there shouldn't be any AAA single player expectation on them to begin with, people were just talking about how this is a VR studio and okay with it, but have a potential issue with them working on service games. Guerrilla is releasing Forbidden West this month A single player game, with a Horizon VR exclusive later this year (also likely single player), so why is it a problem that they have a team working on something else multiplayer / GaaS based.

This fear mongering needs to stop.

PS Gamers praise Sony for their first party and the amazing narratives they play and create with their IPs. Why are they so fixated on holding them back from attempting to do the same in a multiplayer space. If you don't like playing online then don't. Destiny is an example of one you don't really have to, and that's a 5 year old experience now. Let them learn and grow in the Online space, just like they did in the Single Player Space.

People say all the time, I want Bloodborne for PS5 or Bloodborne 2. Well in a Ongoing world, they could still be getting new content from Bloodborne to this day, have new content launch each year, have an option where you and friends can take on a Raid Boss, and so much more. What is the fear in this?

Stop the fear mongering and just say you don't like multiplayer / online games, and these games aren't for you and move on. But there are millions of PS gamers who want to enjoy games like these and want to see Sony's first party blend narrative and world building into AAA online experiences. The PS3 had significantly more multiplayer experiences than the PS4 from Sony studios and the PS4 was a significantly more successful and online focused console. That has to change, because gamers are going online more.

northpaws799d ago

I welcome both, for single players, just from from first party alone we have Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarok, Spidermen 2, Wolverine, I am sure naughty dog is working on a single player game on top of the fiction MP game too.

If some good online games can help keep PlayStation's cash flow more healthy, then so be it, whatever keeps the ship afloat for my single player experiences.

Tapani799d ago

Agreed! The only way I see online is okay for me is something like Dark Souls where it's a part of the gameplay and lore system. I'm an offline games person.

Example: I was playing the other day Shadow Hearts 2 on PS3 Phat (using bilinear filtering and upscaled image + TVs black insertion frame and upscaler + sharpening etc.) and me and my wife were blown away by the writing, animation, graphics, and music. Can't believe some games on PS1-PS2 era are better than the ones today when you have all the technology in the world, and everything is online and connected. We are rapidly collecting old games to play, particularly the gems we didn't have time or a chance to play. These games take our weekends away more so than the modern ones. Maybe we are old, but they just suck us right in vs the new games which feel like a polished turd of a product.

KingofBandits799d ago

could not agree more. I'm sick of online games, MMOBA and anything in that vein. gaming is getting way too big and as a result is making way too much trend chasing trash

frostypants799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

Offline games DO still exist in more than equal measure. I don't think that is going away.

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Father__Merrin799d ago

I agree with everyone who wants a slew of offline traditional games...

But.... Online games persistent ones and those with dreaded micro transactions battle passes etc make more money it as simple as that

It's a shame but those days of of purchasing a game with all content on her etc are now gone. Ironicly Nintendo are closest to old school style games

SullysCigar799d ago

What about Demon's Souls? Returnal? Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart? Horizon Zero Dawn? God of War?

And up next Horizon Forbidden West?

moriarty1889799d ago

Those are the rare exceptions made only by Sony. Let’s hope they continue to make those unique experiences for much longer and not change to these online only type games.

Atticus_finch799d ago

Moriarty
His point is that Sony studios are also keeping the hope alive not only Nintendo.

gamer7804799d ago (Edited 799d ago )

They might sell more copies but they don’t always make as much profit. But I agree that they need multiple ways to fill the funnel. Live service games and single player type games

ABizzel1799d ago

@moriart1889

Mario, Zelda, Doom, Ori, Resident Evil, Souls Games, Devil may Cry, Far Cry, Doom, and hundreds of others.

DOMination-799d ago

What about Starfield, Avowed, Hellblade II, ES6, Fable, As Dusk Falls, Everwild...

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Nyxus799d ago

Many Switch games have paid DLC, like Breath of the Wild, Super Smash Bros Ultimate and Animal Crossing New Horizons.

Atticus_finch799d ago

Not only that but certain Nintendo Digital only games get limited releases on purpose to inflate the price.

purple101799d ago

Mark Cerny touches it

Game : "instantly turns to gold"

Has my attention too.

GhostofHorizon799d ago

Surely you have something to share by now, concept art at the very least.

I find it really hard to get excited about a game where all I know is that it will be an online game which is not even a great selling point to me, actually makes me less excited.

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gamer7804799d ago

This game is likely 2026 or beyond.

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