Rumor: Sony scrambling to ensure video capture devices work on the PlayStation 4 via software patch

Rumor: Sony scrambling to ensure video capture devices work on the PlayStation 4 via software patch

[HolyDuck]

So the PS4 might have a day one patch too?

[black0o]

it's still a rumor ... nothing official yet

@u got owned
ofcource it's OK

[itBourne]

What is the point in this? How many people capture their console? 1% maybe, probably not even that much, not to mention how many will when they have a console that already can capture things. Take the video from your console that captured it, throw on thumb drive pop into computer, or stream to twitch snag video from there. WTF is the problem exactly?

[gaffyh]

@itBourne - Was going to say the same thing. This only affects people who use capture devices, everyone will still be able to use the Game DVR anyway.

[admiralvic]

@ itBourne

Even if this is 1% of the total users... these are the 1% who are currently doing it, have fan bases and are sure to make full use of the feature.

Furthermore, why restrict people and act like they should instantly accept things as okay because there is a "solution". Sure they can capture things, but look at the logic behind it...

PS3:

Capture with HDPVR, maybe make some slight edits, upload to a site.

PS4:

Trash your HDPVR ($100 - $250+ dollar loss), use the included one that might not be able to match or meet whatever need you want to fill, use / buy a thumbstick or HDD that can hold the video, possibly exit out of your game if you can't transfer mid game, walk over to your computer, do your edits, upload to your site.

Sure you can buy a HDCP removal device, but those aren't free and can be annoying to obtain.

[Yodagamer]

It's not offical, but shuhei on twitter pretty much said they were considering it. So i think it's more than likely true since sony up to this point has been yes or no instead of maybe. So either they don't know or it's true.

[ShwankyShpanky]

"Even if this is 1% of the total users... these are the 1% who are currently doing it, have fan bases and are sure to make full use of the feature."

But the PS3 already has HDCP restrictions. So if they're "currently doing it," then they already have an HDCP stripper, no?

Unless they're capturing via component cables, I suppose, which won't be available on the PS4 (which I did find disappointing... the analog outputs on my PS3s get a fair amount of use).

[Ju]

Oh, please. Noise about nothing. If anything this was an oversight. So what. Those 1% make a lot of noise just to put some bad light on the PS4. It's not like this was done on purpose to prohibit recording. HDCP is a HDMI HW feature, probably done by the chipset used. The 360 could only record because of a bug in the system and yet nobody complained there. HDCP stripper can still record as before - plenty of those available. Artificially created headline so "they" (who ever they are) can create some hits with negative PS4 news.

[Eonjay]

The point is that its coming for people who want it. This is good.

[Eonjay]

The other point is that you can still play games without going online to patch with the PS4. When you buy a Day One Xbox, it wont be able to play games UNTIL you go online.

[Ritsujun]

On the other hand, Microsofie's been scrambling every day since the hilarious Xbone180(TV) reveal/circus.

[nukeitall]

What is the big deal with day-1 patch?

Don't you want developers to have maximum time to give you the latest features and bug fixes?

We are talking consoles here, that isn't finalized until a few months before and go straight into mass production. I would find it odd, if a console by todays standard and functionality does not have a day-1 patch.

It means, nothing was being pushed with the hardware. After all, if you aren't doing anything out of the ordinary, then your software can be pretty stable.

Also, I would find it disturbing if nothing was found testing the latest build on final hardware. There ARE always unforseen things and if you didn't find anything, you didn't look hard enough!

[thorstein]

I refuse to believe any source that can't even use proper English. "Sony don't have..."

I also refuse to believe that Sony would add a "Share" button that had no functionality.

I think someone needs a shovel and start shoveling all this BS.

[thorstein]

Yeah. Got two disagrees and now I was absolutely right. I love N4G

[M-M]

Being Xbox fans, you would think you would know more about your system. The Xbox One REQUIRES a day one patch for it to work. The PS4 however, doesn't require a patch to work, but will probably have one at launch. Kind of like how you can get a brand new 80GB PS3 from 2008 with an early firmware, and still have the ability to use it as long as games don't require higher firmware to run.

[H0RSE]

I keep seeing comments about how the xbox patch is mandatory, and this said patch would not be. This is justification in action...

If this turns out to be true, it means that Sony would need to implement a patch to make a feature on the PS4 fully functional, or to put it bluntly, to make the PS4 operate at 100%. The "severity" of the issue, whether it be to play games or just a problem with HDCP, doesn't change the nature of the issue - a day one patch being released to address issues with the system.

In MS's case, they went through massive backlash with their reveal, which resulted in them reversing and rescinding much of the initial policies. Such drastic changes could at least explain why a day one patch would be necessary on the Xbox One. However, Sony doesn't have this "luxury." In the case of the PS$ (again, if this turns out to be true) it looks like more of a case of simple error on their part, whether they were rushed, spoke too on un-finalized features or are simply having technical issues.

Rumor or not, and regardless how insignificant, if this was stated about the X1 it would just be chalked up as yet another goof by MS, yet because it's about Sony and the PS4, it is brushed off as "just a rumor" and essentially brushed under the carpet as a non-issue...

If misinformed sheepish brand loyalty is a fault of xbox fans, double standards is definitely a strong suite in the PS4 camp.

[Eonjay]

@Horse an update to disable HDCP is not nearly as serious as an update to enable your system to function at all. The rumored patch for PS4 is intended to address the segment of gamers that want to record footage or upload to YouTube. The Xbox patch is intended to turn off the DRM and to keep your Xbox from bricking itself. You can't play GAMES unless you update the Xbox. That is an undue hassle.

[tarbis]

H0RSE:
The big difference of this issue is that the update for Xbone came from M$ themselves and is official. PS4's came out of nowhere and is still a rumor. And by your standard. This rumor looks very official and accepted as official by you already.

[H0RSE]

@Eonjay

"an update to disable HDCP is not nearly as serious as an update to enable your system to function at all."

"The Xbox patch is intended to turn off the DRM and to keep your Xbox from bricking itself. You can't play GAMES unless you update the Xbox. That is an undue hassle."

- Yes, I am aware of this, and I addressed this in my post...

You (and others) are taking the Xbox day one patch out of context. As I stated, the patch is due to MS initially planning on the X1 operating as X, yet after significant changes to their polices, now is going to operate as Y. It isn't a case of MS saying our console will operate as X, and then releasing as X, yet still needs some arbitrary patch for the system to work. If things at MS HQ went according to plan, the patch likely wouldn't be needed.

@tarbis

"And by your standard. This rumor looks very official and accepted as official by you already."

Obviously, which is why I said:

"If this turns out to be true," and then reaffirmed it with, "(again, if this turns out to be true)"

I'm obviously treating it as nothing more than fact...

[dantesparda]

Wow Horse, or what ever the f*ck your name is, you just showed that you dont understand any of this.

MS fanboys talking sh*t about and update compare to a necessary update/patch to get rid of MS's insidious DRM

[tiffac008]

^^taking the X1 patch out of context? You realize if there was no patch for the X1 you will not be able to play the console outside of the supported 13 territories it is currently launching on.

You talk about double standards and yet you play the same card by blowing out of proportion a feature on the PS4 that the great majority of gamers will not use in their life time, while down playing the significance of the X1 patch. Nicely made statements does not cover who you really are aligned with.

My suggestion, stop grasping on straws and focus on something else like the X1 having more games at launch without counting the indies. At least that is factual without the need for you to spin anything.

[stuna1]

@HORSE

Let me apologise in advance! But do you realise how idiotic what you posted sounds!? Mandatory: Meaning required, absolutely necessary! No means to opt out! This is the requirement necessary for each and every Xbox1 to operate, without it the system is basically dead.

On the PS4 it's not a action that needs to be performed in order for your console to operate within the perameters it was designed for.

[pop_tarts]

@H0RSE

I see where you're coming from and as a Sony fan I can see where my side is coming from.

While you can still "play" games on the Xbone without the patch, it will be required so that you can play games offline and other policies, so if you if you have internet connection then yes it doesn't matter, but if you don't then that's patch makes you suffer day one.

The PS4 patch even though it will be there (rumored) a large majority of users won't really care or even know what it's for. It will probably be downloaded automatically but only a handful of people with capture cards will actually benefit from it.

So in the end Xbone effects nearly 44 percent of users (going off the total Xbox Live users minutes the total console sales) compared to maybe 2 percent if that on the PS4.

[Ritsujun]

Get out of yer ho, whorse.

[mushroomwig]

'So the PS4 might have a day one patch too'

Perhaps but unlike the Xbox One, people aren't going to be installing this patch just to be able to do the simplest things like play used games.

[MWong]

What sucks about the XBone patch is if you don't have internet, you still can't use the console. One of the stupidest things M$ has ever done.

Honestly, if true this won't bother a lot of PS4 consumers because not everybody will want to do video capture. So even if this is true, I don't care as long as the console has all the drivers & software that will allow me to play my games on and offline I'm good.

[H0RSE]

If you don't have internet, why would you be spending $500 on a console tailored to online? It's like spending $1000 on a new gaming PC, to play Facebook games.

[dantesparda]

For the same reason that hundreds of thousand or quite possibly even million spent $400 & $600 on the 360 or PS3 without a internet connection. Stop being stupid man

[MRMagoo123]

couldnt agree with your point more mushroomwig

[H0RSE]

@dantesparda

But the 360 and PS3 weren't really tailored around online - it was more of an ongoing process. Other than MP gaming, it wasn't until later that many of the online features started being implemented.

The new systems are being built around online connectivity, from DVR, the share button, the cloud, Skype, Youtube, digital downloads, etc. the internet is a very real and prevalent medium for the next-gen systems, and much of what makes the systems truly "next-gen," requires internet. Sure, you can buy a new system without internet, just like you can buy a gaming PC to play Facebook games, I just don't see it as very practical and/or a waste of potential.

[tiffac008]

^You would be surprise on the number of people who actually buys a console and never plays or use it for online purposes. Also most of these gamers are the ones who purchases the console near the tail end of its life cycle when the price have become way affordable.

For us who have easy access and can afford internet on a monthly basis, this may sound illogical but it happens with different reasons too.

[yellowgerbil]

will the PS4 work without this patch? YES
When non internet havers get a X1 will IT work without the patch? NO

[Tctczach]

@yellowgerbil
Sorry but if you don't have internet for the next gen then I don't think you belong in the next gen. Starting out both consoles will most likely have a day one download and most games that are coming out seem to be extremely better with multiplayer. They won't have access to the PS store or Microsoft store for indie games. They won't even get game updates which we all know well be required. What's the point?

[FlameHawk]

@Tctczach, cover yourself, your ignorance is showing. Some people live in areas where internet isn't possible and wow they won't have access to indie games, yeah because there are NO games except for indies, I didn't know there were only indie games and you couldn't go to a store and buy retail games /s. And no game updates aren't required for most games, for Forza 5 is the only next-gen game I know that requires a patch to actually work.

[T2]

@ tctczach - apparently u never travel or leave ur house ... U think everywhere you go u just get free wifi ?

[H0RSE]

@FlameHawk
"Some people live in areas where internet isn't possible..."

@joecanada
" apparently u never travel or leave ur house ... U think everywhere you go u just get free wifi ?"

- The logic here seems to imply that people can just buy whatever products they want, regardless if they cater to the individuals specific situations or lifestyles, and if/when said products conflict with their interests, then it's a fault of the product...

First off, the issue being addressed here is the day one patch, not the X1 in general. After the patch is applied, people can access their system without the need for internet, so the question of traveling essentially becomes a non-issue, so long as the patch was applied.

That being said, if you don't have internet access to apply the patch, why would you buy an Xbox to begin with? It's like buying a car with no gas and no access to a gas station. How is that a "fault" of the car?

Now if MS doesn't put some type of Notice on the X1's packaging, explaining that an internet connection will initially be required, then that is a different story.

[dantesparda]

These MS fanboys are just showing their complete and utter ignorance tonight.

Now wonder they think the X1 is so good (ahem, ingonrance)

[MRMagoo123]

@tctczach

I put my vote in for one of the dumbest comments ever for you, some ppl in Australia where i live have no internet at all but they do have large shops to buy a console from, you dont need the internet to enjoy a console, i myself prefer to play offline most times so i can avoid retards like you, I can imagine if i had an xbone i would never want to go online because i have yet to find one xbone fan that at least acts like a normal human.

[static5245]

@Horse

But with the PS4 you don't need the internet. You're talking like it's all the people's fault for not having the internet... Kinda like "Deal with it". If a person want to play a video game the people shouldn't need the internet. Yes they work better with the internet but they should definitely not have to rely on the internet to work.

So guess what, a kid opens a present on christmas morning and finds out he just got a brand new X1.. But that kids parents can't afford or maybe just can't get the internet. Now that little kid is hugging his brand new BRICK with joy only to find out later that his dreams will be crushed. Think of the children.

Microsoft will be crushing dreams all around the world. Way to go Microsoft. For Shame

[pop_tarts]

@H0RSE

Love debating with you bro.

My wife when I'm out to sea she' goes back to Canada and where she leaves the internet cuts out all the time. She can barely get a single COD match in before it cuts out or better yet takes 2 hours to download a 400mb file before cuting out at 99 percent. It happens, and there's other places like that. Just two blocks from where I was going to live the apartments only had a 6mb connection...I have now a 24mb connection. 6 would have been hoooooorrible to game on let alone use my laptop and other people on their devices.

People can choose to buy what they want, now as far as the Xbone goes it's not their fault that MS messed up and thought they knew what gamers wanted this slip up happened way back sometime ago and while they were boosting GPU and CPU's they sure in the hell could have implement a patch, but I'm sure those boots will also be patches....I just hope it's not another RRoD situation.

Whether or not MS puts a warning on their box or not it's not the average consumer's fault for buying a half finished product. And you're car analogy could be true when shopping at a used car lot and not knowing the first thing about buying a car stuff happens.

[dantesparda]

Damn, i mangled the word "ignorance", talk about typos, oops

[JoGam]

Hold up....When has a patch for XBONE or PS4 became a negative thing? When has it became bad to add something good through a patch? You guys really need to get your shit together.

[tiffac008]

When there are people who continues to grasp for straws, everything and anything can be a negative thing.

[Transporter47]

I think is because the Xbone gets a patch to remove all the features they announce with drm/24hr/family share. That's what the xbone patch does.

Sony's patch is about the HDMI, using splitters is legal for legal use, but they will go the extra mile for the costumers and try to make it native.

Like mewmonday said

[T2]

Because xbots need negative news to compare to Sony .... "But, but they are gonna add Drm too !!! "...
Lol

[ALLWRONG]

A "patch" in only negative because it's MS doing it, and this is N4G, which is 90% Sony fanboys.

[insomnium2]

The patch became a bad thing the minute MS announced they made all those upclocks to the software and hardware on XBone. Why the hell didn't they patch the console then and there?

The answer is obvious. They want to do it like this in a form on DRM. Same with games. I wonder how many games will ship incomplete for the consumers to patch with an online patch no less. No install disc no nothing. Only online. MS wants people online as a form of DRM and that's why a patch became evil for many. F5 said hi!

[Xsilver]

@whoyouwit04 Ms sent out 360's that they knew would fail and xbox fans bought a lot of them so what are you rambling about.
@Ugotowned a patch that allows things that i'm pretty sure a lot of us don't use isn't a big deal thats why its ok but for MS you better get that day one patch or enjoy not being able to use used games which is something everyone does, so dont hate on Sony because they are doing everything right.

[DigitalRaptor]

A day one patch for DRM vs. a day one patch for an external video capture device.

Are you really trying to compare?

[IcicleTrepan]

HDCP is DRM...

[Angeljuice]

Icicle is right. DRM is "Digital Rights Management". It is what stops you copying CD/DVD/Blu-ray content. If there was no DRM in the PlayStation, you could just copy and burn as many game disks as you liked.
It is designed to protect copyrights, and there are several forms of DRM in ALL consoles.
The controversy with Microsofts Xbox 1 DRM was the specific uses that they tried to control. They created a new form of DRM that went beyond its primary purpose, in order to control how players were allowed to play/share games.

There is currently a lobby to change the meaning of the acronym DRM from "Digital Rights Management" ie the protection of copyrighted material, to "Digital Restriction Management" ie the control and restriction of use of that material (not necessarily for copyright protection, but to allow manufacturers to choose what we can and can't do with that material, however they see fit).

Microsoft's DRM was all about restrictions rather than rights which is why it was so unanimously hated.

[Metfanant]

actually was expecting rather large day 1 patches for both systems...the devs will be working on games/OS's right up until launch even though systems are already being shipped to retailers...

i never understood the problem with updates (on either side)...the more updates the better IMO...shows me they are working hard to improve the product

[JackStraw]

but it's not REQUIRED to use your console!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111 111111

okay.

[pedrof93]

Why tranforming a good news into a bad ?

[tarbis]

Bec this is the ammunition that Xbots are looking for. However, this is nothing more than a blank shell that they are desperately clinging to. LOL!

[waljaber]

rumor !!!!

[Christopher]

All consoles will have day 1 patches. It's what happens.

[scott182]

It's good to be sony if their only issue to fix is youtube uploading :)

[T2]

Yet they already have direct upload to YouTube ... This non-issue is surrounding the use of capture cards only .... And Sony stated they would look at a fix for the 1% this actually affects ... Which includes none of the " concerned citizens" on here .... But they will disagree while thinking to themselves "noone on here will know ive never used a capture card "

[xKugo]

I don't think it was ever a question of whether EITHER system would have a day one patch. Both companies are still, as we speak, updating and tweaking things such as graphics drivers, software features, most likely camera functionality, video streaming and most important UI performance.

OT: Honestly, I think the word "scrambling" is little overboard as to the situation that Sony is facing at this current time. Scrambling implies that they are "bewildered" or "take aback" by what is being demanded of them, however I think it's incorrect to say that they didn't expect fans to want this implemented into the PS4. Many PlayStation fans, most notably, Windshear and CloudedTruth, make a decent amount of money from uploading videos via Youtube. Considering that fact, it's quite obvious that these sort of people would want an easier method of uploading than the internal system already in place, especially considering they have spent money on recording equipment.

Maybe it won't be Day One, but the feature will more than likely come to the system and that's purely surmised based on how Sony has responded to past wants from their fans such as the want for an Arabic UI. I think we can all rest assured that Sony knows what they're doing.

[Hicken]

There's an extreme difference between a patch to allow the console to WORK, and a patch to add in a feature for external peripheral support.

Besides, even if it wasn't this, there'd be a patch, anyway as, like someone else said, it's not like the software people will just be sitting on on their hands just because the systems are already in production.

But you knew that, right?

[-EvoAnubis-]

Of course it will. So did the PS3, the PSP, the Vita....

[LordDhampire]

of course it will, these consoles are being boxes months before release

[dantesparda]

This is a good thing and MS fanboys are trying to use it as bad thing? WHAT!? Logic just evades these fools. Trying to compare this type of patch/update to the X1's mandatory update for the DRM is nowhere near the same. You people are just down right stupid now and desperate. Its just keeps on getting more and more pathetic in here. The MS fanboys are seriously hurt. But they shouldnt be mad at the Sony fanboys, they should be mad at their master, their lord, MS. They did this to you,...clowns!

[Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II]

HolyDuck + 1d 1h ago
So the PS4 might have a day one patch too?

What?

[sonarus]

lol @ shit turd. Just like you day one purchasers of xbox one try to delude yourselves with imaginary cloud power and oh lets not forget the almighty Kinnet that will revolutionize gaming with incredible innovation.

When MS drops piece of shit kinnect from the console i will be the first to buy it. Frankly i don't think the Xbox one is a bad console but i do think the kinnect is a piece of shit turd that i want no parts of. No interest in motion technology or voice commands whatsoever. I have siri on my iphone and its a piece of shit so i really don't see kinnect being any better. I refuse to pay more for xbox one so microsoft can justify their investment in the piece of shit kinnect i have no interest in.

[threefootwang]

A patch to fix things that aren't considered core elements of the console? Lol, fine by me. Good attempt though kid.

[MazzingerZ]

Don't even know how to use that like 99% of PS4 buyers if that was so used Youtube servers would be already down due to daily high traffic of PS3/X360 videos showing peoples day's headshot LOL

I might now use that built-in function for that, though...I guess we should be glad SONY is packing that in the PS4 rather than non-expected stuff by 99% of PS4 owners as that ext video capture demands certain knowledge and extra jobb, no thx...we console gamers just want to press a button in our console and things happen like in this case we the built-in recording feature

[HeroReborn]

Come on Duck you know you can't make no joke or comments toward Sony without being piled on by fanboism. This is what kills me about some Sony fans, it wasn't to long ago we heard the tune of $499 usd, and $599 usd. I'm happy is moving in new direction helps the gaming culture overall but they arrogance at which some you fans come off is pathetic

[gigoran]

For lazy people that don't want to work and upload recordings of games being played on the internet to earn an income because they are hopeless and will someday have no money when this stupid fad of people doing that for a living ends? Yes, it is a day one patch. For the rest of the world, no. It's not.

[hazeblaze]

This only applies to gaming journalists that may be trying to capture gameplay videos... if it's even true.

[HolyDuck]

Ahahaha!

This is hilarious, I make one comment.

Which clearly isn't trolling just making the absolute obvious even more obvious and you all go ABSOLUTELY mental about how I'm trolling, and how I'm an "xbot", and how I'm delusional about cloud power (Never mentioned cloud power in any of my comments EVER on N4G)

Not to mention I even added the word "might" in my sentence because it's a RUMOUR but you all forget to read that and see what you want.

I'd really love to know what goes on in all of your minds because it's clear to see none of read correctly and just see what you want.

I never mentioned the Xbox One but apparently I did by saying the word "too". I never said a day one patch was bad, but apparently I did.

[threefootwang]

Clearly, you just can't

(•_•)

( •_•)> ■-■

( ■_■)

deal with it.

[WorldGamer]

I would guess Sony "scrambling" to implement a day one patch for video capture devices is preferable over scrambling to increase your clock speed like MS was forced to do.... just saying.

[iamnsuperman]

I think the word scrambling is wrong to use. This is a fairly straightforward patch to do (doesn't work while a game is running but does when a DVD is put in). Just depends if they are going to have it working by launch or not (they do have two months).

I think we are all expecting a day one patch of sorts (come on these things are being manufactured. They are not going to stop tweaking and optimising the software)

in the mean time this is a work around. Not ideal but still a work around ( http://www.youtube.com/watc... )

[3-4-5]

The video capture is the least of my worries.

[saywat247]

AN XBOX ONE FANBOY MADE UP THIS RUMOR!!!!!!

[tarbis]

I would guess a "rumor" that comes from nowhere without any reliable source is far more preferable than an official announcement made by the company themselves. Just saying.

[Godmars290]

How big is the video capture group in gaming anyway?

Or does Sony feel that they have to appease v-bloggers for free advertising?

[TOGC]

Pretty big I would say.

[SonyNGP]

Regardless of it being big or not. There's nothing wrong with adding more options. It's not like it's gonna hinder anything.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

No it's actually a tiny percentage when compared to the whole community. But that's not the point. Better to appease as many as you can, because the internet is so powerful these days.

[HammadTheBeast]

The group isn't big, but their audience is.

[AznGaara]

Considering Sony built a console with video streaming I think it's pretty big. Well big enough to influence what goes into a console lol.

[secretcode]

Game reviewing sites + the enormous YouTube Video Game phenomenon that's still going somehow = Pretty big chunk.

I don't understand why people would want an external video capture device when one is already built-in to the system itself. Seems kinda... I dunno. Repetitive?

[admiralvic]

"I don't understand why people would want an external video capture device when one is already built-in to the system itself. Seems kinda... I dunno. Repetitive?"

More control, easier access, possibly higher quality picture, ability to do whatever you want with it, and most importantly... you most likely won't have a content blocked from being recorded (the included one can have parts blocked till the developers decide otherwise).

[pwnsause_returns]

when your only problem(s) are just allowing the use of external capture cards and allowing the arab language across consoles, you're doing great....

[Parapraxis]

Shh, let's not underestimate the severity of this rumor lol.

[ZBlacktt]

All this to make easier for everyone. Sony is awesome in every way. Because even if they did nothing. You could still capture video and upload it in true 1080p with prefect sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Muerte2494]

I like this blew up from nothing. PS3 had it and people were still able to capture video via capture cards. HDCP prevents any blu ray (mainly video) from being ripped via capture card. If this is Bluray drives in general and guess what Xbox One has in it, a bluray drive.

This has been proven by on N4G some time ago.
http://n4g.com/news/1288115...

Another thread explaining HDCP and how capture card makers have accommodations.
http://community.eu.playsta...

[ZBlacktt]

Yeah, you can see how people are just trying to find something.... something on the PS4. Yet there are to many people that are fully aware to debunk it all.

[admiralvic]

A) The PS3 had it, but the PS3 also had a component cord port, which allowed people to easily capture gameplay. The PS4 / XB1 seems to be ditching that, so it's HDMI or nothing.
B) The Wii U uses something based off Bluray and can be ripped, so it's too early to tell.
C) Happ said they think it will work and things can quickly change. Just like the Xbox One got a quick upgrade, dropped the always online concept (despite sticking up for it for a while) and really all it takes is one rep misunderstanding / assuming to cause an issue. Before you defend Sony on that one... don't forget PS All-Stars

http://n4g.com/news/1129937...

There are more examples, but all it takes is the right person hearing or thinking the wrong thing for an issue to occur. Both reps could have easily assumed they wouldn't be blocked (because they implemented HDPVR functions) or assumed they were asking about the aforementioned stuff.
D) The only real thing that thread said is that there are devices to remove it, which people no doubt already knew (you couldn't have thought HDCP would remain unchallenged for 5+ years). Also telling people who just like to share gameplay to pay an additional X dollars or accept that their device is now useless isn't really a solution.

[Muerte2494]

@admiralvic,

There goes your theory about not being able to capture over hdmi.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[pyramidshead]

lol people are already jumping the gun. Belking's fanboy hyperbole comment below, as a prime example, has already blown his load too early on this minor negative news article regarding PS4. He just couldn't keep it contained, side effect of being blue balled for the last five months :P. Let them have this to clean their pipes.

[xhi4]

Haha is this for real? Software patch to allow a RUMOURED fix for EXTERNAL recording devices even though Sony already has live streaming and recording/upload to youtube on in-built is a problem?

Good times for Sony!

[Tony-A]

For realz, even the bad news turns out to be not-so-bad rumors. lol

On topic, I've always wanted to record gameplay with the help of a capture device this gen but it was always a hassle. I'm glad these next gen consoles do that built in - especially the PS4 with 15 minutes or recording! I can see a lot of multiplayer matches being uploaded to YouTube next year. hahaha

[Tooly]

most of the people complaining don't even upload gameplay

[porkChop]

JFC... HDCP does NOT AFFECT GAMING. It's for Blu Ray movies, and it's on the PS3. Considering the Xbox One uses Blu Ray, it will have HDCP as well. It doesn't affect games in any way whatsoever. It just prevents people from ripping Blu Ray movies. That's it.

[SonyNGP]

Then you obviously haven't tried using an HDMI capture device on a PS3.

[EXVirtual]

Exactly.
People should check out this video by BG, it helps you understand what's going.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I just find it weird that Sony didn't let Youtube uploads from the Share Button. Not really complaining, but I would go for youtube before Twitch.

[admiralvic]

@ SonyNGP

I got no clue why people are disagreeing with you, since the PS3 blocks HDMI capture.

@ porkChop

HDCP has to do with the type of connection, not the type of player, which is why a lot of PS3 users capture via com cables. While the goal is to prevent movie rips, the PS3 is coded in a way that prevents that across the board. If you do literally any research you would know that you can't capture via HDMI on the PS3 (Wii U / Xbox 360 are fine) without a device to remove the HDCP.

[Tooly]

i can turn HDCP off LOl Ps3 4.46 Dex Unit lol

[puntthor]

as a sony fanboy.... all is forgiven!

[Belking]

Basically half assing it as usual. Sony cant compete when it comes to features. They know this. They are struggling to get the simple things done. This means that services like Gaikai are gonna take forever to launch and still not be as good as the competition. Greatness awaits suits them perfectly in this area.

Lets see how gamers react to this "180". Lol

[The_Klank]

Its like you're not even trying anymore.

[ZBlacktt]

Strong trolling, if you had two bubbles you could tell us what all those years of RROD was like. Or just how many flip flops the X1 has done. The Youtube matter is a legal matter. Not a manufacture's matter like is always with MS.

[Kayant]

^ Right and Tv features only working in the US at launch with no time frame for other countries is not half-assing. Also not forgetting some key voice commands like "Xbox on" only work in 5 countries at launch.

Gaikai was never going to be available at launch it was always a work-in-progress feature go back and watch the Sony reveal. Tv features and Kinect functionality are key features of the Xbox experience but can only be truly felt in NA at launch.

[bromtown]

Congratulations on the completion of the trollbot 3000 autonomous trolling device. It's hitting all points on the troll agenda

180 my arse, this is at most a 15 degree veer. There was HDCP on PS3 too, Sony just continued on the same path it's not like they just added it to the PS4 to fuck with people.

If you're seriously comparing this to Microsoft completely changing almost everything about their console then you're beyond reasoning with.

[Jakeherrera]

I don't know what your talking about Sony owned gaikai for a while and this was no 180 it's not like they restrict people to record ps4 gameplay

[SoulSercher620]

Let me know when the Xbone gets Arabic on their console. Never mind it's not even launching in the Middle East.

[T2]

Lol look how everyone under belking has exactly 1 disagree .... Very convenient lol

[XabiDaChosenOne]

You know Sony is on a roll when pathetic rumors like these are the only "negative" news.

[puntthor]

yeah they are infallible! like the pope!

[pyramidshead]

'Sony scrambling' Epic reaching title lol Sounds like a minor inconvenience within a sea of good news. What's given is that they'll get it sorted most likely.

[Software_Lover]

Meh, not a big deal to me.

XBone day one patch: Meh, not a big deal to me.

[Confickercrash]

This could be another case of people not caring about something until it's gone. Seriously how many of the purple complaining about it are actually going to use it? I for one won't.

[admiralvic]

I for one will.

[Kayant]

I was expecting this the way Sony hasn't talked about it meant they weren't planning on supporting it which is why they have such a feature built-in into the OS but some people want to be able to edit their video and add stuff before uploading. If you choose to transfer your recorded stuff to a external hard drive then I don't think there would be an issue.

And a workaround should not be needed in the first place for everyone posting video links and such.

[AutoCad]

anyone know of an unbiased news site like this?

[thebudgetgamer]

Meh.

[Chris12]

Fuck me, today's ridiculous console war argument is the content of a Day 1 patch. Some serious growing up needs to be done on both sides.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

+1

[AceBlazer13]

There are already ways to get around this so shouldn't really be a problem,sure it would be more convenient but not a big problem.Mointains out of mole hills

[bromtown]

If I were a console manufacturer which would I rather have as news?

"Sony scrambling to change a 1 to a 0 somewhere in a line of code."

"Microsoft scrambling to completely change their console so that people will actually want to buy one, and get it built, supported by devs in time for it's launch."

Hmmm

[Rimeskeem]

This isnt bad thats for sure it just gives more reason to buy the system

[coolasj]

There was most likely always going to be a Day One Patch. They are working on this stuff up to the hour it goes live.

[bjmartynhak]

Not understanding the need for a patch,

Can't Sony just allow HDCP strippers for gameplays? It is a legal issue, not about software. Unless they have other plans... But what could it be?

[Rimeskeem]

Why does xbox one need a day one patch........ the world may never know

[jaymart2k]

Yes to remove DRM

It pissed off Nintendo fanboys & fanboys from other consoles made fun of it when Wii U had a day 1 patch.

See what happens when you talk shit.

[Rimeskeem]

Yes but this patch isnt needed to play used games or to play offline

[Dunban67]

Rumor: Most rumor s in gamer journalism )oxymoron) are BS clickbait

[PositiveEmotions]

Why the "no way" vote?

I would love this on my ps4

[abusador]

Lol oh boy grasping for straws bcus their system of choice is indeed rushed haha

Cantbwait for my ps4 and ill be sure to upload alot of vids day one.

[GamePeace]

Make sure Deep Down comes to Europe, other things do not catch my interest as the waterdeer of Deep Down did. I want to bring down the deer, so bring Deep Down, poopbees...

[vigilante_man]

Both consoles will have a patch on Day One for updated drivers, and other system optimisation.

Just going to happen...

[GraveLord]

Calm down trolls. This really only affects game journalists.

[Master of Unlocking]

"Sony scrambling to ensure video capture devices work on the PlayStation 4 via software patch"

I don't get it. Why would they have to do something like that? I thought the PS3 was always recording the last 15 minutes of gameplay of the game you're playing, and all you had to do was press the square button to upload it to youtube? Wouldn't that make the use of a video capture card redundant?

[bjmartynhak]

It is for Youtubers, people who make reviews and walkthroughs.

[Mr_Danski]

Considering Sony has Upped MS at every chance and I'm sure Sony will have something sorted come launch.

Chill your tits, Sony wont let this slide, it will get fixed.

Not to mention, This is only a rumor as of now, For all we know it doesn't merit any truth.

[Jamaicangmr]

If true then good, this doesn't matter to the average consumer but i hope they do because the reviewers need it.

[Drasill]

Patches are good things. It means they are improving, adding, or fixing something.

[CuddlyREDRUM]

Sony fanboy emotions are hilarious recently. Yoshida just tweeted they are working on something for Youtube uploading, why are you questioning Yoshida?

Cerny already said it would do Youtube uploading, so apparently the development team didn't get the memo it is not shipping that way.

[badkolo]

3 people use this feature with a video capture card,, who gives a crap about this other then like 3 freaking people with absolutly no lives, it has a share button and thats good enough

[isarai]

With such a strong focus on video capture and sharing i'm sure Sony is doing something about it, after all how are reviewers going to review their games without having some decent footage to show.

[Thomaticus]

They should be scrambling to make sure everything goes smooth. I'm not judging until I got the console in my hands and I'm attempting to perform these new functions. Then we'll see if it works or not.

[SyrusRiddick]

Amazing not that it manners but its funny when something goes wrong with the Xbox one Everyone jumps down their throats but when a key highly advertised feature goes wrong with the ps4 everyone's jumping out of the shadows and wood works to defend them or proclaim how it's not a big deal when not a few days ago they just couldn't wait to use it. I love video games but fanboys/fangirls make me sick.

[strigoi814]

I reqlly dont care if they dont allow capture cards to work on the PS4..there will still be ways to do it only if you are way to smart

[Silly gameAr]

I've never seen this many people try to spin an non-issue into a huge deal in my life.

[kingPoS]

Save it to usb.
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The End!

[AbortMission]

I honestly don't care about video capture.

[SaulGoodman]

That's it. I'm canceling my PS4 pre-order just because of this! How dare they try to screw us over like that! Does anyone know how to add sarcasm to text?

[dboyman]

http://pc.net/emoticons/smi...

[feraldrgn]

In regards to the possible day 1 patch to get more capture device support:

You have to be online to upload footage to the net, so a day one patch is an absolute non-issue.

[GribbleGrunger]

Bubble

[Angerfist]

if i were the Gaming Industry, i wouldnt allow to make money of those Games, those Letsplays hurt the Sales more then they are free advertising, im sure of that.

Yeah, maybe a Indie Game gets more exposure, look at Minecraft, it would be nowhere without Youtube, but especially Call Of Duty got worse because of all those Youtubers.

Dont get me wrong, i dont mind uploading Clips to Youtube, but its those 5 min CoD Commentaries are not what youtube should be about, before Youtube was about money we got montages and they were great and showed interesting and amazing parts of Games. Now its about Gameplay from the same Maps and all that.

[mixelon]

Capture devices already work on ps4 using the same HDCP workarounds we use for the ps3 over hdmi.

Seriously. HDCP is HDCP.

[srd4484]

OMG! Imagine if this was MS instead of Sony. Comments would be on the 50th page by now. Another Sony promise not so much.

[just-joe]

If that's their biggest problem, then I'd say they're doing just fine.