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Shuhei Yoshida Confirms That You Can Fully Install Disc Games on PS4′s HDD

A few days ago SCE Worldwide Studios President Shuhei Yoshida caused a bit of confusion about the installation of disc-based games on the PS4. Today he clarified confirming that you can indeed fully install disc games on the console's HD, and shared more info on the DualShock 4's 3.5 connector.

ABizzel13882d ago

I think this has more to do with allowing Vita Remote Play even when you purchase disc based games.

I wasn't the one to disagree with you.

abzdine3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

u was also wondering if it's possible to listen to what's happening on screen just from the controller but i didnt think it was possible.
every PS4 news is great news

and concerning disc install, everytime i could do it on PS3 i did it even if it was optional. I think it helps preserving the lens from intensive disc reading, especially for BIG games

slimeybrainboy3882d ago

I read every one of Shuhei's tweets in his voice.

I don't know why you'd want to fully install, would it help load times?

MusicComposer3882d ago

I don't think this has to do with Vita Remote Play since the actual question says "Dear Shuei. Will we be able to do full game installs to HDD from disc (Disc present in tray for verification) on PS4?" If you still need the disc in you aren't going to be able to access all your other games from the Vita. Also, at that point what would stop you from selling your physical disc if you could still access it digitally.

tokugawa3882d ago

its a great feature. it is a shame that we still need the discs installed on both systems though

JoySticksFTW3882d ago

Great news. Happy for the confirmation.

I fully installed every game on 360. I think it helped preserve my system. No RROD yet.

But now I'm afraid to turn it on because I might have just jinxed myself. Oh boy...

Destrania3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

PS4 doesn't require installations from discs, it's just an option. Considering the disc must be in the drive when you launch a disc based installed game, I'm not sure how much I'll use this feature. I'll be eating up enough space from digital downloads haha.

Conzul3882d ago

@SlimeyBrainBoy

if you put in an SSD (as I will XD ) then I imagine load times would be drastically reduced. Imagine....jumping to a friend's game would drop from 7-10 seconds to maybe 2-3 seconds or even instant.

zeee3882d ago

THANK GOD! That should help a lot to reduce the loading times. That's the only feature that I liked about my 360, that I could install the games on the hard drive.

God knows how much I hated the load times in Fallout games! I wish PS3 allowed us to install games on disk (and keep the disc in for security/verification reasons). I never really cared about cross game chats. The ONLY thing I miss on PS3 is optional disk install.

dantesparda3882d ago

What I'd like to know is if it's mandatory installs our optional. cuz I'd prefer optional

Kingthrash3603881d ago

I thought there was virtually no load times already.....was an installment needed for no loads?

minimur123881d ago

Could someone PM me the reason as to why you'd do this? I mean, if you need the disc in the tray then why waste HDD space? :S

hkgamer3881d ago

I think it's an optional install, similar to the 360. Which is great news. Definitely not going to be like what the xbone was going to be like. So most likely no remote play on ps4 games for vita unless it is digital or disk in machine.

strifeblade3881d ago

Well yoshida welcome to 2008- i have been able to install games on 360 since then- yawn. Can you tell me what else is revolutionary in the ps4? lol

Destrania3881d ago

Considering the blu-ray drive in the PS4 is supposed to be 6x faster than the PS3's, I don't really see how handy these optional installs would be.

UltimateMaster3881d ago

....
He just said Yes, it Can be done.
But it doesn't mean that all publishers will be doing it.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

malokevi3881d ago

So you can fully install them, do you still need the disk?

And if not, what's to stop people from using the same disk over and over on a bunch of different consoles?

Incoming Sony DRM? I would have a chuckle.

dantesparda3881d ago

@ minimur

The only reason you'd want to install the game, is to shorten loading times.

@strifeblade

PC's have been doing this since the 80's or longer, so welcome to the 80's

@malokevi

You're lack of getting it is showing again. You do need the disc, so no secret DRM incoming. But stupid try, keep trying kid.

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VforVideogames3881d ago

about time for sony , I've being doing this for 6 years on my 360

LOL_WUT3882d ago

Dat 500GB PS4 harddrive ;)

fattyuk3881d ago

500gb! Gonna need a 2TB hdd in this console.

my 1tb in my ps3 ATM is down to its last 60gb.

minimur123881d ago

@fattyUK

someone a PS Plus member? lol

dragon823881d ago

@fattyuk

My 1TB im my PS3 is also damn near full. I am sitting at about 300 digital games plus game saves and videos. I am going to need to go even bigger next time. lol

Crazyglues3881d ago (Edited 3881d ago )

@ Fattyuk

See this is what I was saying your going to end up needing to put a big hard drive - that's why I designed this - but no one is voting on it - http://www.quirky.com/inven...

-but yeah space is going to fill up quick on next gen... just watch..

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showtimefolks3882d ago

I will use this for most 3rd party games because they are closer to 8GB while exclusive we 20 plus

But maybe with MS also using BLURAY we will see most developers use the extra space

How long will it take on average to install 20-25 GB?

Also will installing mean faster load times? And less disk spinning?

minimur123881d ago

I'm prety sure you can play while you install it buddy :p

boldstarr3881d ago

PS Consoles is always the leader!!!Quality games and quality products is always best!!!u xbots better shut-up, cry all u want in PS section in this site... we will enjoy ours while others cry cry cry!!! PS4 here i come!!!

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negative3882d ago

Weren't game installations assumed at this point?????

Abriael3882d ago

Assuming never helps much, especially considering that Yoshida mistakenly said that you couldn't just a couple days ago.

threefootwang3882d ago

Wait a minute,

Don't you mean he pulled a

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180?

Abriael3882d ago

@threefootwang: if you check the previous tweet carefully, it shows that just expressed himself badly.

dragon823881d ago

@threefootwang

Love the CSI Miami reference!! LOL

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user74029313882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

ps2 sales all over again

Misaka_x_Touma3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

nope it missing a lot of third parties exclusive franchises that PS2 had and mass amount of Japanese games and JRPG

user74029313882d ago

once the 2.1 ratio of sales happens (and it will) you will see tons of exclusive 3rd parties hit ps4.

tokugawa3882d ago

lol @ dirty pimp

you actually believe the nonsense that you write dont you.

"once the 2.1 ratio of sales happens (and it will) you will see tons of exclusive 3rd parties hit ps4."

so, if say the ps4 sat at 50 mil and the xbo at 25m, you honestly think that the 3rd party devs are going to ignore the other install base??

the stupidity of fanboys knows no limits

Misaka_x_Touma3882d ago

I wonder where Sony fanboys be pulling these stuff from

cell9893882d ago

initially PS2 didnt have all those supporters, till it started selling like crazy

ZHZ903882d ago

You again.

DirtyPimp is talking about SALES dominance not GAMES dominenace.

Enough with your Nintendo fanboyism.

You PMed me and told me you are Nintendo fan, but what will you own along WiiU is it PS4 or Xbone?

Misaka_x_Touma3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

@ZHZ90

My brother and I decided to wait like we did with PS3.

So we are getting PS4 sometime late 2014 or early 2015.

Now about the he talking about sales.

Tell me. What make a Game System sell
The system itself
or
the software for it such as exclusives and must have games.

So if you gonna say PS4 gonna sell big number first. It need the exclusives. Why Exclusives push more units.

If KHIII, MGSV and FFXV were exclusives to PS4 like
FFX, KH and MGSII were for PS2 then yes yall can assume it gonna do remotely good as PS2.

But since it not exclusives. It won't happen.

PS2, Wii, GBC, GBA and DS have about 10 or more games within the 10m-30m gap software units.
While Wii has 3 over 30m.

Software moves Console.

Inception3881d ago

"If KHIII, MGSV and FFXV were exclusives to PS4 like
FFX, KH and MGSII were for PS2 then yes yall can assume it gonna do remotely good as PS2."

Than Sony just created a new IP, just like they created Uncharted, The Last of Us, Killzone, Heavy Rain, LBP, Demon's Souls, inFamous, etc for PS3. They had talented people who can created franchise as good as KH, MGS, or FF. I'm sure you knew that those titles from Sony sold millions of copies and help sony sold many PS3 units worldwide.

And Sony still can work with 3rd party dev like the old time to created amazing games exclusively for PS4. Just like Level 5, Vanillaware, NIS, Falcom, SEGA, Namco, Atlus, or ArcSystemWork who don't mind to created their games exclusively for Sony console ;)

So i don't see the reason why PS4 can't sell as great as PS2. Even some title not exclusive anymore for sony console ;)

ZHZ903881d ago (Edited 3881d ago )

Just like Inception and kingrev said.

Btw games are not just FF, KH and MGS, and Sony 1st party studios can make game great as FF, KH and MGS. TLOU and Uncharted are best examples of this.

Also PS4 versions of MGSV, KHIII and FFXV will more than Xbone's versions because these series were started on PS consoles in populartiy especially KH as a whole started on PS.

Darrius Cole3881d ago

Actually price would be the bigger indicator of video games sales. The cheaper consoles sell the most.

Seeing how the PS4 is $100 cheaper than the XBO and will have mostly the same games, at the beginning at least, I expect the PS4 to outsell it by a good deal....at least if Sony can keep up with increased demand.

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kingrev3882d ago

@Misaka_x_Touma

But then again my friend games like Uncharted and TLOU have made such a massive impact in gaming that just waiting for their sequels can push a lot of sales alone.
Plus don't forget that Sony is presumed to have the most powerful console and Mark Cerny also mentioned that when it comes to developing for the console is like back with the PS2 less time and more easy to develop for, so games would look better thanks to the power that the PS4 holds within and finally don't forget that there is still many games that didn't make it to this gen like jack and daxter.

There is a lot of potential for the PS4 to become as great as the PS2 and who knows it might even surprise us and surpass it but that is just my opinion

WorldGamer3882d ago

This is awesome news. I wonder if this will cause any significant differences in performance. Or maybe there is another reason for this.

Either way, I can't wait to get my hands on my ps4 this November.

Nitrowolf23882d ago

Load times should be slightly faster I assume, but at least it's less load on the BD Drive

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Obscure_Observer352d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole352d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90352d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit352d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils352d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie352d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj352d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde352d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor352d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138352d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_352d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881350d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit352d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992352d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64352d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992352d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot352d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992352d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz352d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot352d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64352d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot352d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__352d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic352d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz352d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades352d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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Workshyskiver358d ago

A titan and a legend of the industry.

autoglope358d ago (Edited 358d ago )

Shue is great. .. He even mentioned Miazaki and Ueda,..

victorMaje358d ago

What a Legend. I salute you.

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