PS4 vs Xbox One - Pre-Order Totals to August 24th 2013

VGChartz has gathered the pre-order numbers for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. The latest data is up to the week ending August 24, 2013. This includes the week of Gamescom, which set a record for biggest gaming trade show in Europe with more than 340,000 visitors. The pre-order numbers are for the US only and give an estimate how each console is doing about three months before release.

(NA region only.)

[PlayStation_4]

can't really trust those figures 100% but they are a nice indication of what is to come.

[PlayStation_4]

Something else that really intrigued me is that the PS4:X1 ratio actually went UP since E3, after all the DRM crap.

45 to 75 = 1:1.6 (E3)
350 to 600 = 1:1.7 (Now)

[NewMonday]

whatever happen to that "positive buzz" the XB1 was supposedly getting

Knack - 40,982
Titanfall - 27,956

nuff said

[AlexanderNevermind]

Wow and this is US only which is X1 territory. This is why were seeing all the jumping through hoops and backtracking by MS. If they were to los the states by an almost 2-1 margin then yeah the X1 would be considered a failure.

I wonder what EU and other areas numbers are.

[Tony-A]

That's very interesting.

The reversals didn't seem to do much at all for them. But, then again, who - apart from us enthusiasts - know much about the reversals?

It's kinda hard to tell. And, on another note, the fact that Knack is preselling that well in the US is telling me something. It's preselling almost as much as Madden on XBO and preselling much better than Destiny on XBO as well.

[mewhy32]

Wow. Knack is outselling Titanfall LOL.

[avengers1978]

KZSF out pacing DR3, ryse, and forza combined. And that's just NA Xbox's biggest market. I think that alone speaks volumes.

[pyramidshead]

@newmonday

Holy shit @ those figures lol damn those 'indie' looking games right? ;).

[wenaldy]

The revival of bandicoot-esque genre. Knack.

[corvusmd]

Uh, new monday....Knack is a release title, Titanfall doesn't come out till probably around April next year...

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@newmonday... Sorry buddy but Knack isn't going to grow much beyond what you see there. Titanfall is still 7+ months away. The fact that it has as many pre-orders as it does now just shows how much it will crush Knack...and possibly many other games this 1st year.

[Darrius Cole]

@ Tony-A

I bet those reversal did do a lot for them. The the pre-orders that came in immediately after E3 were probably the most hardcore fans who would not be deterred no matter what.

We would have to look at a chart to see how the pre-orders came in week-to-week. I would be willing to bet that they slowed to practically zero (0) after the initial burst and only started to move after the reversals.

Still, if the PS4 wins the US by 2 to 1, or 1.7 to 1, then it will win this generation in PS1 or PS2 fashion.

Microsoft has to dump almost all of its launch units in the US. They have to fight the PS4 to a stalemate here.

[abzdine]

numbers speak for themselves.

Greatness awaits

[superbhoy]

good to see kz doing so well. FREE DLC!!!

[HammadTheBeast]

What's funny is that Killzone is so high up, and there's only been 3 ACTUAL gameplay sequences shown.

Dayuum.

[timl241]

@newmonday

Knack is a launch title, Titanfall isn't. People are going to put their money towards launch titles over games coming out in the spring.

[Izzy408]

@newmonday

Do realize that's a stupid comparison, right? Knack releases in a little over two months with the PS4. Titanfall, however, has no launch date, and is estimated to be released sometime spring next year.... we're still in summer of 2013. Unbelievable. -_-

[mewhy32]

the ps4 is defeating the bone all over the world in pre orders.

[shadow2797]

@Hammad
Only? Killzone is the second-most demoed next-gen game next to Watch_Dogs. And Battlefield, but that doesn't really count.

[Regis]

Are you saying the left side is PS4 and the right is Xbox??? Not a troll question just asking.

[Kingdom Come]

Wait, so people trust VGChartz now?

[hqgamez]

Shadow Fall is from a europe team, that is probably going to sell very well already.
shit crazy knowing that
Shadowfall - is at 221,710
as for ryse, dead rising 3, and forza combine is just
175417
It looks like US gamers already decided.
europe, and japan, blah been decided. PS4 is going to regain king like ps2 did.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@NewMonday The positive buzz IS the huge jump from E3 when comparing pre-orders.

Knack was announced in February and is a launch title. While Titanfall is still 7 to 8 months away and will launch in March or April.

Its nice of you to throw logic completely out the window.

But then again, logic isn't your forte.

[NextGen24Gamer]

The one thing pre-orders don't take into consideration is that the core xbox one gamers/fans are excited about the all digital future that Microsoft proposed. The xbox one was intended to be a diskless console.

With that said, I know many of my family & friends haven't pre ordered a single game because we plan on buying everything day one as a digital download. This way we can use the console as originally intended by Microsoft.

1. The ability to be playing a game, receive an invite for a different game, and instead of getting up to change the disc, we just accept invite and we are instantly playing the game we were just invited to.

2. We know that family share is coming back as MS reps have mentioned it will make a return. That was one of the more exciting features of the xbox one, but you can't do it if you buy the game on disc anymore.

I believe that is a major reason to why pre orders are lower for xbox one games than the ps4 games.

While sony has ignited their fanbase with the lower price very powerful console, MS has ignited their fanbase with promises of a digital console and all the perks that come along with that.

It should be interesting when the consoles launch and we get final figures in for both. For me, it doesn't matter as I have both pre ordered and will be in next gen gaming heaven.

[tokugawa]

is this a joke comment section??

are people really getting giddy with excitement about pre-order numbers??

fanboyism knows no limits

[MWong]

@ newmonday
I saw that too and was like whoa. Hopefully, people just aren't pre-ordering it since it's not scheduled to release until 2014. If not Titanfall is in for some trouble.

@tokugawa
Pre-orders usually show the general trend of what's hot and what gamers are more excited about.

The rest of those numbers aren't too surprising. I did figure Forza 5 & Titanfall would have higher pre-orders compared to Ryse.

[FlunkinMonkey]

Titanfall is being promoted almost as if it's a launch title.. Easily most advertised game.. Xbone is getting battered plain and simple.

And so pre-order number aren't indicative to the respective consoles foreseeable popularity?!!

Dear me.. Clutching at straws.. Again.

[abzdine]

PS2 times are back! PS4 suprematy all over tha globe

[malokevi]

"With that said, I know many of my family & friends haven't pre ordered a single game because we plan on buying everything day one as a digital download. This way we can use the console as originally intended by Microsoft. "

Same here. I wouldn't even bother considering a bundle, preordered game, or otherwise. I'll be grabbing all my copies digital.

Of course, everyone in this thread will ignore you or vehemently deny that what your saying has any truth to it.... but we all know it does.

The same people getting PS4's are the same people who spent endless days rallying for the continuation of disk-based media, and the same people desperately trying to prove some sort of point with per-order numbers. The same people who said "MS betrayed me, I must punish them!".

The rest of us don't give a crap, are going Xbox, and don't care about pre-ordering dinosaur disks. But, obviously, the PS faiithful are too busy high-fiving each other to account for that.

[MysticStrummer]

You guys talking about the all digital angle of XB1 are forgetting that PS4 does that too. Forgetting, or maybe ignoring it to make your point.

You guys saying Titanfall isn't a launch title are right, but neither is Destiny and Destiny has more orders on both consoles.

"Sad day for Xbone fanboys..."

No need to be sad when you can invent facts to suit your argument.

[gaffyh]

I never trust VGC 100%, and those Knack vs TitanFall figures are quite funny. However, just to be fair, there is no confirmed release date for TitanFall, and the sales will be split across Xbox 360, PC and Xbone. Knack on the other hand is confirmed for launch, so it would make sense if it had more pre-orders.

[G20WLY]

^@Kingdom Come:

"Wait, so people trust VGChartz now?"

Please: re-read the very first comment carefully, check the agree/disagree ratio and then consider growing the hell up.

Thank you :)

[johndoe11211]

@ Elite24Gamer

When trying to defend your system of choice please use sensible arguments. Tons of people I know are also going to wait to download their games from the psn network because just like microsoft they both have day 1 digital download.

I hope you realize that these numbers also do not count towards the preorder chart. Taking that into consideration what exactly is your point? The ps4 also has very very good digital benefits which most people tend to agree is better than microsoft's offering.

If family plan sharing is what you are betting your chips on you will be sorely disappointed. That will not magically sell millions of system even if they were to bring it back especially seeing that sony has a system in place to share digital games.

There is nothing anyone can possibly say to defend microsoft's poor performance on those charts because microsoft screwed themselves from day 1. Even though I play 80% of my games on my ps3 I still own every sony and microsot system since that originals and I still play them all to this day.But this is the first time I will not be getting all the systems.

There are a lot of people like me who have totally lost any and all trust in them and will absolutely refuse to support them this gen. I probably shouldn't say absolutely but I will wait at least 4 years before I buy an xbox one, I dont give a damn how good titan fall, titan rise, titan go away, clash of the titan or any other titan or xbox game looks.

[r2oB]

@ Elite24gamer

What are you talking about? While you are waiting for next gen to purchase day 1 digital games, PS3 gamers are enjoying it now (have been for a while). For every Xbox gamer that is looking forward to downloading games, there is a Playstation gamer awaiting the same thing. On top of that you have Playstation gamers that are accustomed to it already. If you are going to attribute digital sales to the lack of physcial pre orders for Xbox One games, the exact same logic would apply to PS4 games as well.

[JokesOnYou]

No Elite24Gamer makes a fair point a lot of X1 owners are looking forward to digital format, sure ps4 has this ability too but micro is the one promoting the digital side and we expect benefits of the initial plan through digital purchases. Sure some ps4 fans may go digital as well but even on this site it would seem from previous comments on the subject more ps fans still prefer physical discs.

As for the preorders, according to vgchartz ps4 is doing very well so congrats to sony but I'd expect X1 to continue to close the gap as all the anti-drm mess has lost its steam and micro picks up its usual advertising blitz highlighting and showing off games INSTEAD of explaining old policy reversals. I think the knack vs Titanfall thing is funny but ironicly it only proves how preorders vs actual sales can be misleading because Titanfall is without a doubt going to crush Knack sales, in fact I'd say Titanfall (X1's first big AAA exclusive SHOOTER) is going to see original Gears of War type 1 month sales which will easily eclipse Knacks total lifetime right after launch. Also note that console preorders are also directly related to allocations, many stores don't have the much more popular Day One Edition stock allocations which are sold out so as Microsoft manufacturing starts to pick up they will have more store allocations= more consoles available for preorder in the months closer to release.

*Mark this thread for repost when Titanfall launches.

[shivvy24]

Woa killzone sf is preordered twice as much as battlefield on X1

[r2oB]

@ Jokesonyou

No he does not make a fair point, because he only applied it to one side of the equation. Fact is both will be supporting digital purchases next gen, gamers know this, and gamers are anticipating it for both systems. You say Microsoft is actively promoting it without realizing Sony does not need to promote it for the PS4 because it is something already available for the PS3 (so it's to be expected on the PS4). Just because Sony is pro disc-based games does not mean they are not also pro digital-based games. Sony is covering their bases with physical, digital, and streaming.

[JokesOnYou]

"Sony does not need to promote it for the PS4 because it is something already available for the PS3"

r2oB, yeah and you can do the same on 360. The point is unlike last gen and ps4 so far for the upcoming gen, micro has made it a point of emphasis about a digital strategy for X1, things like the Home Gold plans isn't totally new but its significantly better than last gen on 360 with everyone having Live access for their own gamertag even though only 1 gold is needed per household/console, family game sharing incentives coming back, conveniences/cloud always connected benefits and possibly even selling your digital games is in the works. Again sony has digital game downloads but they aren't encouraging it one way or the other like micro, again I've been reading n4g daily for the last few months since the consoles have been announced and its fair to say most ps fans seem to still seem to prefer physical discs while more xbox fans seem to be looking forward to going all digital(for the reasons I already stated above).

http://www.theverge.com/201...
http://consumerist.com/2013...
http://www.winbeta.org/news...
http://www.neowin.net/news/...

[johndoe11211]

@ JokesOnYou

You have a number of inaccurate points in your comments.

1. It is not only sony fans that want the disc based games, it is sony and xbox fans. Why do you think no one was buying the damn thing when it was released? why do you think that was the first policy microsoft reversed? saying that it's mostly sony supporters who will be buying disc games is ludicrous.

2. you are severely underestimating the amount of sony supporters that will be buying digital games. People rallied against the xbox, both microsoft and sony supporters alike, not just because we only want disc based games but because we want to have the option, something microsoft was going to take away form us completely. There will be minimal if any difference between the amount of people that buy digital from microsoft and sony. Sony does not need to promote digital because their digital store already does very very well.

3. " things like the Home Gold plans isn't totally new but its significantly better than last gen on 360 with everyone having Live access for their own gamertag even though only 1 gold is needed per household/console, family game sharing incentives coming back, conveniences/cloud always connected benefits and possibly even selling your digital games is in the works. Again sony has digital game downloads but they aren't encouraging it one way or the other like micro"

you are absolutely right about this, and let me tell you something, make no mistake as to why microsoft is focusing so heavily on this. They are trying their best to get people comfortable with the idea of a totally digital system so they can bring back every God forsaken policy they reversed. Apart from that all those points you listed does not solidify an advantage for microsoft when it comes to digital distribution. Sony also have their own offerings and I can assure you they can rival if not sink microsoft's offerings.

The only thing you are totally right about is the Knack vs Titan Fall issue.

[andibandit]

@newmonday

"Knack - 40,982
Titanfall - 27,956

nuff said "

ehh...what point is the comparing preorders for one game releasing in 2013 and another game releasing in 2014?

[ChrisW]

Interesting number of exclusive titles in those Top 10 figures.

[KazHiraiFTW]

@ Elite24Gamer

Mr. Ballmer, if you're going to post on N4G using a stealth profile please try to make it a little less obvious mmmmkay thx.

[InactiveUser]

Your ratios are backwards.

You say PS4:X1 ratio, but your numbers are X1:PS4 ratio. Your numbers are saying 1 PS4 for every 1.7 XBones (aka less), when it's 1.7 PS4s for every 1 XBone.

[mikeslemonade]

@ Elite and Jokes

Go try to get more common sense.. Digital Downloads is a very small percentage of sales. The preorder chart showing the system sales are almost 2:1 in favor of PS4 to X1, meaning software sales are gonna be factored in the 2:1 system sales. Your argument about digital downloads is out the door.

And PS: Look at Ryse at only 58,000 units. Haha keep defending. And X1 won't close the gap considering PS3 closed the gap on Xbox 360 despite having almost every advantage.

[mikeslemonade]

Tell me where I can get a digital downloaded system /sarcasm

To me where digital download sales really go is for the demographic that is looking for convenience. It's for the gamer that is browsing games online and wants to buy a game without having to go to the store and buying it. The factor about convenience of not having to use a disc, the speed loading, and the less ware on the laser are smaller factors into the decision buying the game. The biggest factor is a the impulse buy, the ability to have the game now.

[BlackTar187]

new Monday titan fall is like a year out right? Is Knack a release title?

[PlayStation_4]

Titanfall is being advertised heavily though

[NewMonday]

no, just a few months apart.

[Wikkid666]

There is no solid release date for Titan. They are trying for a March release. So, that explains why Knack would have a higher preorder.

[slimeybrainboy]

@PS4, GTA V preorders have only just started ramping up in the past month or so. Titanfall will do just fine.

KZ:SF is doing crazy numbers if this is any indication.

[MWong]

Only issue in that train of thought Blacktar, is Destiny with 8,000 more pre-orders than Titanfall on the XBone. Both games are at least 9-12 months out. I'm also pretty sure Titanfall will do good, just thought it would be doing a lot better as the XBone flagship title so far to me.

Not mentioning the PS4 version of Destiny since Titanfall is a XBone exclusive.

[MysticStrummer]

Destiny isn't launching anytime soon either, yet it's numbers are higher on both consoles.

[Fergusonxplainsall]

The latest trailer for Knack made me rethink about getting it, since it does look fun and absolutely awesome.I will buy it for sure.

And the latest trailer for Infamous Second Son...
Whoa.

Titanfall looks fun but it's online only. No singleplayer. So experience may vary.

[slpknt6sic6]

First I'd like to say that I'm only buying a ps4, and will not support microsoft since they thought I was stupid enough to buy a drm box. But the pre orders for titan fall are good. No one mentions why infamous SS isnt there and its for the same reason that it doesnt come out till next year.Everyone needs to ease up on the xbox fans they know ps4 will crush xbox one they are just in denial.

[Maddens Raiders]

These are astonishing US figures if they hold true.

[Death]

These numbers are baseless. Pre-order numbers aren't even available to the manufacturers. VGC has never been and never will be a valid source for this information or any sales tracking information since they do not have the resources needed to attain these numbes.

[rainslacker]

If pre-order numbers aren't available to the manufacturers, then how does Sony know that it already has over 1 million pre-ordered?

You seriously believe manufacturers aren't asking retailers how many pre-orders they're getting so they can estimate how many they need to make? Pre-orders are generally pretty indicative of how well a game will sell. I'm sure there are plenty of metrics that gauge how well it will sell based on pre-order numbers, and retailers would have no reason to hide those numbers, since they will obviously want stock.

Otherwise, I agree, VGChartz isn't a terribly reliable source. They've been accused of under-tracking Sony, and over-tracking MS in the past...and usually when official numbers are released, that accusation proves true.

[Sevir]

Really Death? Preorder numbers aren't available to Manuafacturers Soooooooooooo, did one pull the that over 1 million PS4 preorder figure out of some air!? how do you think they gauge interest on products if they dint have access to retail channels putting out pre-order numbers and estimates?

[johndoe11211]

@ rainslacker

Not only that, does any one else notice how microsoft has not said a word publicly about their preorder numbers? Sony said it a number of times in their conferences but microsoft has remained silent.

If it was anything like they had hoped they would not have hesitated to have every media outlet report it to the world. They would have been holding press conferences and they definitely wouldn't have been giving out fifa for free.

[hqgamez]

damn, this just US only. I believe the numbers are high for ps4 over x1 in europe and all other regions.

US is really MS only power ground.

[allformats]

Total PS4 software pre orders = 1,216,365 Total XBO software pre orders = 811,295. PS4 above XBO by 405,070 or 50%. Total top 5 PS4 software pre orders = 987,717. Total top 5 XBO software pre orders = 590,382. PS4 above XBO top 5 software pre orders by 397,335, or 67%. PS4 hardware preorders increased 700% since E3. XBO hardware preorders increased 677% since E3. Since the XBO 180, the gap between PS4 and XBO hardware preorder increased 4% in PS4 favor. This is USA only, Sony cant ask for more than that.

[andibandit]

yeah but kinda kills the picture that the PS4 was outselling the Xbone 4:1

[NextGen24Gamer]

My question is I wonder how many xbox one gamers are going "ALL DIGITAL" with the xbox one? What percentage of xbox one gamers.

Is it 2-1, is it 50% of xbox one day one owners...etc...That's something that we won't know until after launch and game sales come in. But I have a gut feeling just based on my circle of friends and family it's more like 2-1 are going all digital, which would definitely effect pre orders in a major way.

Also, out of the 50 million gamers currently on xbox live, how many pre ordered their console from the 360 dashboard instead of going in to gamestop or Amazon?

Or how many purchased from the Microsoft stores around the country?

I live in Seattle and I can tell you that the Microsoft store in Bellevue has been busy with people coming in to pre order the xbox one.

These are all factors that don't show up yet on pre order charts.

[DoesUs]

That .....is terrific news! MS will be over the moon with your findings.

[MysticStrummer]

"My question is I wonder how many xbox one gamers are going "ALL DIGITAL" with the xbox one?"

You could ask the same about PS4, since people have the same opportunity to go all digital with it.

The number of people who didn't want an all digital future was large enough that MS had to change their plans, but somehow you think the small number that did want an all digital future are the secret weapon?

You also seem to think only XB1 has alternate ways to pre-order consoles and games that may or may not show up in these numbers.

I don't know if you're honestly assuming a lot or just pretending to as a spin tactic, but you don't seem to have thought this through very well.

[DevilishSix]

The whole all digital I think is overblown because neither PS4 or X1 appear to have a large enough harddrive to be digital platforms.

[TKCMuzzer]

Nots sure that really is a good indication, most people going into a MS store will be looking to purchase something from....er...well, Microsoft.
People do realise you can buy all games via digital on the PS4? There may well be many waiting to buy games like KZSF on release day from the PSstore.
It's just the feeling of the industry right now, Microsoft made a miss judgement about what people wanted and are paying the price, you can't just buy back trust, you have to earn it and that's exactly what their going to have to do.

[rainslacker]

It's not 2:1. Digital adoption rate for full games is less than 20% as of end of last year. Digital revenue(DLC, MT, smartphone apps, games, etc...read all inclusive, not just full games) is just under 40%. Consumer spending habits aren't going to change so drastically just because MS has a DD store. They have it now, Sony has it now, Nintendo has it now, and those numbers only see a marginal increase YOY. PC right now is the only place where DD is over 50%, but physical still plays a major part. 2 months isn't going to change that, as people are generally slow to change. Nintendo likes to brag about how well their games sell digitally, but they only get those numbers because they choke the retail supply chain, so people give in. Many more than 50% of the people prefer physical...it's just what they're used to, or what they prefer.

Just because you want to use your own anecdotal data on what you, and some of your friends/family, will be doing, doesn't mean that your assertion holds any kind of merit. It is speculation at best, grasping at straws at worst.

Otherwise, the mix of digital vs physical is probably consistent between the two platforms. In fact, Sony's digital distribution platform seems to be more popular than MS, which isn't particularly surprising, given how hard they've pushed it this gen.

I wouldn't doubt that a few weeks from release of the PS4, the lauch games for it become available for pre-order digitally, if their past MO stays consistent.

[DarkHeroZX]

Lol all of what you just said can be applied to Sony.

[deadfrag]

You know PS4 games are going digital also from day one!!!So your stating is useless!

[Ju]

I sure will go all digital. Because I will be able to play all those games on my vita wherever I am without the need to put a disk in.

How does this sound? True it is. I'm not lying.

Can your box match that?

[walkincarpet]

as you point out vgc stats are incomplete, but check out the sound stats on N4G - 90% will disagree with logical comments or agree with absurd comments based on whether or not it promotes Sony over MS.

[GarrusVakarian]

So based on "your circle of friends and families" you go assume that MILLIONS of gamers are going to go all digital. Oh man, your assumptions and exaggerations know NO boundaries.

If so many people are rooting for this "all digital future" then why did MS turn their policies around? You make it seem like the people who do want an all digital future are the majority, 2:1!? Are you serious!? If that's true then MS turned around their policies for the MINORITY, which doesn't make sense know does it?

The majority of gamers didn't want what MS was trying to push, so they spoke up against and MS changed their policies. People who want an all digital future are a fraction of gamers, otherwise the policies would still be in place.

Why are each and every one of your posts absolute garbage?

[nosferatuzodd]

Wow you guys will find an excuse for anything sometimes i wonder if you guys plan them ahead just to be on the safe side like Sony doesn't do all digital to ps3 have day one digital before xbox360 remember plantation community knows about all digital long time i think half the lost of us sales was digital so if people are buying Microsoft digital you think people aren't buy on ps has well

[Clarence]

You sound like Reggie.

It's obvious that gamers are choosing the PS4 in NA. This is the territory that M$ dominated last gen. Without NA, the Xbox will not be able to compete with the PS4.

The PS4 has the best games and the best price.

[Ausbo]

I think we all know ps4 is gonna outsell the xbox this generation. It just is. But being a gamer, i dont care. I will enjoy my xbox one as long as they continue to bring out good games for it

[blackpanther25]

I respect that

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

lol xbox gamers bragging about titanfall and it bearly makes top 10!
lol I want titanfall on ps4 but killzone ftw!!

Call of Duty: Ghosts - 240,090
Killzone: Shadow Fall - 221,710

Call of Duty: Ghosts - 229,628
Titanfall - 27,956

America is getting smarter!!

[KazHiraiFTW]

check again

1. Battlefield 4 - 246,965
2. Call of Duty: Ghosts - 240,090

[Sci0n]

Get Beasted Microscam. I can remember it just like it was yesterday when all the xbots was dancing doing flips and everything based off sales in the beginning just to have the PS3 which launched a year later surpass the 360 in sales and to have the PS4 which is launching around the sametime as the XboxDone beast it on preorders in NA. Ahh it feels good and boy how the tables have turned.

[harrisk954]

Sony said it had over 1 million pre-orders for the PS4.... VG Chartz has the pre-orders at only 600,000. Unless these are old numbers, VG Chartz is off.

[BeatDizzle]

That 600,000 in the US.

Over 1 million world-wide total for PS4.

[shinrock]

according to the n4g fan asylum, VG is only off when M$ is ahead. as far as digital goes... well from what i have read,Sony fans have no plans on having their systems online,so the digital domain will belong to M$

[fattyuk]

@shinrock.

PS4 owners don't plan on being online??

PS PLUS SAYS HELLO SWEETHEART.

[aceitman]

ps4 totals in preorder games 1,216,365.
xboxone 811,295

[shinrock]

soooo vg is good today? huh?

[Godz Kastro]

I'm buying 5-7 X1 games as digital downloads on day 1.

[FamilyGuy]

Cant trust this at all, look how low the Titanfall pre-order numbers are. Seems ridiculous for the most hyped game shown at both E3 and Gamescom.

[Psn800]

What I really don't understand & I'am going to be real honest here & speak my mind right when the Xbox360 came out o many Playstaion fans left to go too Xbox360 now there going back to Ps4 .

Don't you think that is hypocritical when many are calling the Xbox the bone it's wrong these people are the worst gamers , I'am a Ps3 convert & will stay loyal but if I went back to Xbox & called Ps4 rubbish then I'am like these so called gamers there a rotten lot I think there just going with who they think will win basically .

[The Rock Bottom]

You work for Microsoft don't you? Hmmmm....

[Kingnichendrix]

Does it really matter who has more preorders? It's not really gonna change my life in anyway or supply me with better games

[NewAgeisHere]

Nice?Haha....not for MS......this ratio applies to US market......all reports from Europe for instance indicate a 5:1 ratio or more in favor of PS4 so.....Xbox is facing an uphill battle in years to come.

[alejandroelputo]

Titanfall numbers will obviously grow. The thing about the number in this article that actually made my blood pump a little is how they are more pre-orders for cod ghost on the ps3 than on the xbone. That is just wow-****ed

[PlayStation_4]

Killzone: Shadowfall already has more pre-orders than KZ3 did altogether on a platform with no install base and 12 weeks away from launch...

Impressive.

[Thisisjuju]

I'm really surprised it has so many pre-orders.

It has nearly as much as CoD and Battlefield which are considered the de-facto FPS standard.

[PlayStation_4]

Shadowfall will elevate KZ to the next level... Hopefully inFAMOUS will follow

[GiggMan]

According to this it looks like the PS4 will be the place to play Battlefield and CoD with the larger community.

Personally I'll be in the Killzone universe myself but I may dabble with a little BF.

[NewMonday]

to put things in perspective..

Killzone: Shadow Fall = 221k

DeadRising3+Ryse+Forza= 176k

[Muerte2494]

^ that right there sucks!!!!!

Guess that FCC certification was malarkey. Engadget post almost everything electronic that passes through the FCC.

Example: Sony next phone not even announced
http://www.engadget.com/201...

But somehow they missed Microsoft's system going through FCC? Yeah I highly doubt that one.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

lol

the second coming of ps2!!

Most people don't want xbox fact..

[Maddens Raiders]

Look what GG did with KZ2 and KZ3 on the PS3. They looked and played fantastic imho. From E3 '05 to E3 '07, from Radec Academy to the MAWLR, GG has been /constantly and consistently/ pushing themselves and the hardware they run on to be the best they can be. They defied and proved wrong all the doubters (Koeghley & unidentified sources) back then and are set to show what their house can do as a launch title on the PlayStation 4.

I just don't think people realize just how good this game is going to be for Sony's new system. Not just in terms of showcasing graphical/lighting benchmarks, etc but also as a true system seller. The GGods have paid their dues and gamers will reap the benefits. Day $&#@ One.

[KazHiraiFTW]

Obviously you forgot about the infamous pre-rendered killzone 2 E3 trailer from 2005 that sony lied about and said it was real-time. The real KZ2 didn't look anywhere near that good when it was finally released 4 years later. Maybe you are just too young to know about it.

Don't get too excited about graphics in a console game, PC will always be better.

[fattyuk]

^^^ How does the killzone franchise run on PC? Are the graphics/gameplay any better.

Oh wait... hang on a minute..

[kwiksilver99]

well ,it is an impressive looking launch title.
i hope it attracts a lot more gamers than it did last gen.

[alejandroelputo]

The Ps4 for is the new ps2 of this new generation of gaming!

[ZBlacktt]

Everyone is talking about Titanfall, yet it is last place here. The lowest count on both list.

[Gazondaily]

Yeah but when is it coming out? Hardly indicative of anything is it?

[ZBlacktt]

Well, when you consider this and it has been in production 7 years with no release in sight. No one even talks about it much anymore.

#38

http://www.vgchartz.com/pre...

According to all, Titanfall is the next coming to Jesus. Which could be seen since it's from the creators of COD.

[Cogan1]

Neither is Destiny, which will be out after Titanfall and its still ahead of the pre-order chart. I have my PS4 preordered but Titanfall does not appeal to me in the slightest, just looks like COD with a fancy Mech skin on it.

[Gazondaily]

"No one even talks about it much anymore. "

Eh? What are you on about? Titanfall is on most people's wishlist. You're talking about it right now.

[HammadTheBeast]

The Last Guardian sits at 50 k pre-orders.

[Hicken]

Why keep making this excuse? Supposedly, Titanfall was THE game to have on XB1; it hasn't been that long since they said it wouldn't be a launch title, so you'd figure people would have been preordering with the assumption that it WOULD be.

But the numbers don't bear that out.

The numbers say there's a lot of TALK about TitanFall, but not nearly as much intent to buy. Essentially, a bragging rights game.

[DatRealBoy]

but yall always say titanfall when there's a debate between console lauch exclusives

[Gazondaily]

Titanfall is a bragging rights game? I guess it won all those awards for no reason.

Maybe you should have attended Gamescom and then maybe you would have noticed what appeared to be the largest queue for that game. No one is talking about it?

Titanfall is a killer app whatever way you spin it. But I'm sure once its confirmed for the PS4, and I'm confident that it will come to the PS4, I will not be surprised if the tone of many on here changes regarding the title.

I'm not here defending Titanfall because its coming to the XBox One. I'm here defending it because it looks like a stellar game and one of the best FPS' on the horizon for the next-gen. I can see it, the world can see it and maybe one day you will.

[Quicktopick]

From a business stand point it will be multiplat, Titanfall i mean. I agree with you on that. especially when the ps4 sells good

[Niv]

Titanfall ain't a launch title, it'll release sometime mid 2014

It's actually very good to even have preorders so early
For titanfall.

[ZBlacktt]

It does look really good. :)

[T2]

Not bad for preorder but every xbox fanboy on here is talking up titanfall like its THE reason to get the system ... Now I know its 7 months away im for sure waiting at least a year to see what MS is offering ... Ryse, forza, DR3? Not a chance I put 499 down for that

[MysticStrummer]

It's supposed to be out in early spring 2014.

So is Destiny, but Destiny has more orders on both consoles than TF has.

Also, TF sure is thrown into a lot of launch title discussions. The term "launch window" must cover a lot of time I guess.

[shinrock]

who pre orders a game with no date?

[r2oB]

The 89,000+ people that pre-ordered Destiny (both consoles)?

[alejandroelputo]

Titanfall numbers will become revelant when it arrives on the PS4.

Nuff said.

[Odin666]

Lol Xbone looking like a failure in MS's home turf. haha

[user7402931]

ps2 domination coming, get ready.

[leahcim]

It´s surprises me how low is Watch Dogs... :(

[slimeybrainboy]

After seeing the Division I'm no longer impressed with Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs was the first next gen game we saw and I honestly think it's showing its age.

[stuff]

I'm not. It's a new IP and had some very big players ahead of it. I've preordered it.

[HammadTheBeast]

I agree, compared to others it may not be doing the best, but it's cross-gen, and is a new IP.

Looks cool.

[Kuse]

It's not really an impressive game, looks far too gimmicky to have any real substance..

[bjmartynhak]

It is 3rd-person shooter with a cool power.
(I call the hacker-phone as "power")

Not super-innovative, but I'm pre-ordering anyway. Good to have a new ip

[CocoWolfie]

dont worry, people dont have the money or i necessarily wouldnt pre order, so just wait until a few weeks before release and its marketed like crazy :p

[stuff]

If PS4 can manage and maintain a nearly 2x lead over XBO, it would be much more difficult for Msoft to hold onto those 3rd party exclusives.

[gaelic_laoch]

It would be suicide for Third Parties to publish exclusive on a console that is not selling as well as its competitor! At least it will hopefully take throwing cash at Third Parties harder to do for M$!

[christrules0041]

Unless Microsoft funds the game. That means no expenses for the studio and every game sold would be pure profit.

[T2]

@Christ - yes for the studio that would be ok but MS would bleed money for every exclusive in that scenario

[EXVirtual]

I hope the PS4 gets some 3rd party exclusives especially Japanese ones. You're right. Unless MS contnue to money bag. They have deep pockets. Then again, they'd start to bleed $$ big time.

[gaelic_laoch]

And there you have it, Numbers never lie! Well done NA!

[kneon]

Well it is vgchartz so you have to take those numbers with a bucket of salt.

[HammadTheBeast]

Make that two.

[Death]

Have to agree on this one completely. Not enough salt on the planet to validate VGC claims.

[stuna1]

@death

Of course not Death, because it would invalidate yours!

[Flutterby]

Yeh I would probably double the ps4 pre orders and half the Xbox one pre orders to get the real figure , they always under value the ps consoles game sales

[Death]

No doubt the PS4 is out pre-selling the XboxOne. I won't argue that point. My issue is the credibility of VGC numbers for anything they claim. There are tracking companies that pay quite a bit to not only poll retailers, but they pay for the data. VGC doesn't even have the decency to simply copy those numbers. VGC simply makes them up based on a gut feeling.

[LoveSpuds]

Its hard to judge these figures without context. What is the usual pre-order figure for say COD or Madden?

[Animal Mutha 76]

Interesting that it's the multiplats that are leading each consoles list.

As for machines I think MS is paying the price for a botched reveal. I'm sure they will bounce back once the machine is out and we can see how good it is.

Sony off to a flyer.

[Niv]

Ps4 600 000 + euro 400 000

Xb1. 350 000 + euro ?? 50 000-100 000

I think ps4 can finish 2013 with 4-5mill sold

Xb1 ???????????????

[brew]

Nobody has any idea on how many these companies can ship 2013 , though. They'll likely both sell out whatever they can make and ship.

There seems to be more demand for PS4 obvously , but it's up to hardware components and production now.

[Aleithian]

Where are you getting those euro numbers?

[gamingfriend]

Xbox one boys got it wrong titanfall 10 and cod 1, glad im going ps4 bf4 1 hell yea

[brew]

But , have you seen Shadow Fall ?

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

Damn x1 launch line up is getting demolished by killzone alone lol :/

But sales don't not mean great game to be fair :P

[hazardman]

Im pretty sure that if MS had their premier shooter at launch those numbers would be different aswell.

[HammadTheBeast]

But KZ isn't the premier game for Sony. If MS had Halo, sure pre.orders would be high, but I'd expect the same if Sony put a Naughty Dog or Media Molecule game up for launch.

[christrules0041]

@Hammad

Or if Guerilla brought out there new IP. They have that as well that has been in development for the past 2 years already. They stated they have one but they are focusing on getting sales for Killzone: Shadowfall. I wonder how long after the launch of Killzone: Shadowfall that we will learn about there new IP.

[CocoWolfie]

oh yeah those numbers arent exactly precise, im judging this of most game units sold when publishers have claimed more, but yeah its looking good, even if you intend to get an xbox one you gotta understand why the ps4 is ahead :/

[GreenRanger]

As long as I get one of each; I couldn't care less about their sales numbers.

[GreenRanger]

The consoles I mean, not the games.

[hazardman]

I dont go by these numbers only because most gamers dont pre order!

[stuff]

That may be true, but word-of-mouth is one of the best methods of marketing. So these numbers could mean that more people will be talking to their friends about one particular version over another.

[hazardman]

True that..

[Campy da Camper]

I respectfully disagree. I'm 40 as are my friends. We all have been gaming hard since the 80s. From standing in line at 7-11 to play super Mario bros to sleeping outside for the ps2 we always preorder. Now, I want to clarify that we preorder what we know we want. Meh games, no. New systems and games like killzone or infamous? Hell yes. I had that stuff preorderd the morning after e3 as did all my friends

[hazardman]

No doubt...I respect your opinion! I always pre order my consoles and launch games aswell. I guess I was referring more to the average consumers and just overall games. We gamers are different!!

[Metfanant]

Killzone is the number that im most impressed with in this article...

[DevilishSix]

I enjoyed KZ2 as it reaaly pushed the PS3 at the time and the multiplayer was unexpectedly addictive. KZ3 I was disappointed and the changes to the multiplayer were a regression. From what I have seen of KZ Shadowfall it looks like a reboot. Gone is the grey and brown drab colors and limited maps and in with more colorful and open gameplay. It also seems that GG really opened up the multiplayer with lots of options this time. It is the in thing to do to rag on KZ and it has be a whipping boy for years, but I think the new one looks good and exciting.

[pyramidshead]

This.......is telling....

[spaceg0st]

It amazes me that cod is still among the highest pre order. Even with all the next gen offerings, people are simply content with the same old crap.

[user7402931]

I think word of mouth will get out about how much bf is better than cod.

[yellowgerbil]

I think it is pretty telling of which hardware is doing better, but don't think it matters on the games side. I never pre order games, what's the point. I've never gone to gamestop on release day to find they don't have the game in stock. I know a lot of people don't preorder games, unless it gives them something extra.

[Odin666]

Not Knack outselling Titanfall though! EA probably on panic mode right now. "Prepares IOS version" lol

[spaceg0st]

This is shocking to me

[Izzy408]

You do realize Knack releases in about two months with the PS4, right? Where as Titan, has no release date and is estimated to be released some time in SPRING OF 2014. We're still in summer of 2013!!! So just by looking at those number this early, EA must be ecstatic. I bet you if Titanfall were coming out with the X1, those numbers would be a lot higher.

[Arrrriibaa]

Destiny is higher too and has the releasedate of somewhere in 2014. Soyour argument is a bit invalid.

[christocolus]

Once again their ignorance amazes me.its actually bad for sony and knack that a title 7months away is doing this good but as usual fbs are never logical in their reasoning. Ms just announced bundles for their 1st and 3rd party titles after gamescom and most previews and hands on for their 1st and 2nd party games came during gamescom(which was just few days ago)and all these have been positive. Even fears about ryse have been cleared..I see these pre -orders and i know this doesn't give the final aggregates.remember the wii u??..fbs pls be patient and do proper analysis once both consoles and games are out. Let's give another one month or bettr still let's wait till december and we may start seeing a final and clearer picture of how things will be...patienc is a virtue and you shouldn't be too quick to declare a winner just yet....

[Izzy408]

@christocolus

Destiny has less preorder than Knack on the X1 also. Xbox players have both Destiny and Titanfall to choose from for next year; where as PS only has Destiny. So it's terrible for Sony actually because two games that won't be released util some time next year have almost as much preorders as Knack. You can sure bet if Titanfall were a PS exclusive, it would have more preorders than Knack.

[Izzy408]

Well it's higher in the PS charts because PS players don't have Titanfall to choose from; where as Xbox players do, so their preorders numbers are split between the two. Either way, Titalfall and Destiny have almost as much preorders as Knack on the X1, which is good news for both Respawn and Bungie considering both games wont be released until spring to summer 2014.

[Biggest]

Is Killzone anything like Destiny and Titanfall, or should we just keep going with the whole Knack isn't as cool a shooter game as the other shooters?

[christocolus]

@izzy

i totally agree with you. ms launch line up imo has more variety and the pre-orders are shared among all titles..sony has just 2 1st party games in that list while ms has 4 first pary titles along with all the other multiplat games too. i feel the bundles ms just announced after gamescom will increase sales too and also the outcome from gamescom really put a lot of positive light on the xbox one and its games so its all good..really excited to see how things turn up though..

[Themba76]

ea needs to work that contract with Sony asap for a titanfall release if they like money.

[solidworm]

Lol Respawn backed the wrong horse. Bet they are shitting it right now. Damn those crystal balls.

[RandomDude655]

More like Insomniac. Respawn has nothing to lose, as they are a new/small company.

[shivvy24]

Ms is funding the game so insomniac should be fine , I bet they will come back to ps

[user7402931]

wow I feel sorry for titanfall, getting beat by knack! lol.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Why should you feel sorry for them? 27k in pre-orders for a game with no launch date and still 7+ months away vs a game with 40k in pre-orders that has a set launch date in 3 months. I think the guys at Respawn are more than happy especially since these are just Xbox One numbers and don't show PC or even 360.

[user7402931]

well kzfs is only on one console. and its beating titanfall on 3! lmao.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

OK...how about this then since you threw that up. Gentleman's wager bet on what sells better in its first month KZSF or TitanFall on its current MS platforms....

[staticdash22]

You do realize that Destiny is coming out in June 2014 right? It has more pre orders than Titanfall. It even has had less marketing than titanfall. MS has pushed that IP down our throats so I expected the COD gamers would be the first to latch on. I guess not. Destiny just seems more original IMO, more potential.

[AceBlazer13]

Would love to see this bet.

[Niv]

Titanfall ain't launching this year!

I ain't going to buy everything now,

Once game get reviewed.

[CrimsonStar]

One more time , but this time in English .

[Sci0n]

Titanfail! lol!! Knack is better at life then you! lol

[stage88]

Wow looks like the US are turning their backs on the Xbox. The PS4 has nearly twice as many preorders!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I really do hope that BF4 outsells COD on both next gen systems.

[AceBlazer13]

Sadly the Xbox guys still prefer it over battlefield.

[Quicktopick]

Here's to hoping, But I think it wont be the case.

[AceBlazer13]

Lol knack doing better than titanfall.Good to see ppl supporting the PS exclusives but why the hell is cod surving on both systems.At least bf4 is outperforming it on ps4

[andreasx]

The funny thing is, xbots keep bragging about titanfall but on this list it is on the bottom. Ohh the irony

[AceBlazer13]

Lol that titanfall and ryse. Their wallets don't lie at least.

[GreenRanger]

I expected the pre-orders numbers for Ryse and Titanfall to be much higher.

Also, COD pre-order numbers are higher on the PlayStation 4 than they are on the Xbox One - IN NORTH AMERICA!!! WTF!

[6DEAD6END6]

The tide will turn in NA. :)

[6DEAD6END6]

I was trying to say Sony will take NA away from M$.

[Manic2014]

I kinda doubt those numbers as Gamestop released numbers for the first to know list which have 1.5m and 700,000 for both PS4 and X1.......

[Caleb_H]

People always disregard killzone, but with 200000+ pre orders you can't deny that it is an exciting game.

[SliceOfTruth888]

I think people are forgetting that buying Digitally has benefits for XBOX one. I personally have yet to reserve any game because i dont want the disc version and i take it i am not the only one

[GraveLord]

Uh, both PS4 and Xbox One benefit from buying digitally. That doesn't explain the gap in console pre-orders. Try again.

[SliceOfTruth888]

1) The PS4 does not have the feature for me to purchase 1 copy of Battlefield 4 and play it on 2 consoles at the same time.

2) The PS4 is not designed for dynamic Matchmaking allowing me to Play Killer Instinct while i wait for a matchmaking game of Battlefield to Start

3) The PS4 does not have DIGITAL in their cross hairs which is what Next Gen will truly be.

4) I have my PS4 on pre order and actually look forward to Knack but until i see a better effort from Sony they will not have a PSN+ customer from me because i pay for ONLINE not free games.

[first1NFANTRY]

nice troll account. fit's your delusional comment nicely. PS4 domination is imminent. get with it or have less people to play online with next gen.

[Quicktopick]

shud have said #dealwithit lol

[Ju]

Can we stop with the digital, please. Something which Sony does for years now.

You know what this is: https://store.sonyentertain...

Push notification to PS3 today (and Vita) - not even a need to wait for the PS4; which will simply carry over to the PS4. Been there since forever without making a big noise like MS is trying to make everybody believe this is something new. But well, MS invented the camera, too, right?

[SliceOfTruth888]

ill put this here for you too
1) The PS4 does not have the feature for me to purchase 1 copy of Battlefield 4 and play it on 2 consoles at the same time.

2) The PS4 is not designed for dynamic Matchmaking allowing me to Play Killer Instinct while i wait for a matchmaking game of Battlefield to Start

3) The PS4 does not have DIGITAL in their cross hairs which is what Next Gen will truly be.

4) I have my PS4 on pre order and actually look forward to Knack but until i see a better effort from Sony they will not have a PSN+ customer from me because i pay for ONLINE not free games.

and ill add 5

5) XBOX one will feature dedicated servers for EVERY.....EVVVVVERYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYY game that comes out for it....just so you know

[Ju]

A lot of wishful thinking. Look. MS has some new form of virtual reality, too.

[Saleem101]

Lol ps3 has been doing Digital releases for 3yrs now thats not new...

[hellzsupernova]

The irony is in your name. ..

[user7402931]

bookmarked

[Izzy408]

How stupid can people? OF COURSE Knack is leading Titanfall in preorders; Knack releases in about two months a long with the PS4. Titanfall on the other hand, has no release date and is estimated to come out sometime in SPRING OF 2014. We're still in SUMMER OF 2013!!!

Having that many preorders this early is a win for Respawn. But, when you live in a PS bubble, things like these tend to fly over your head quite easily. (-_-)

[Biggest]

Hello, Destiny. I do love that you make Izzy408's "argument" as real as the imaginary friend in his profile picture.

I hope this means that the launch comparisons won't include "But have you seen Titanfall?"

[solidworm]

Hope SONY dont do a PS2 on Microsoft, we need some form of competition.

[strickers]

I want Sony to do sizable numbers over XB because install base will balance out MS cash. I don't want total domination though. MS competition has made PS4 this well thought out.

[Ju]

Not from MS...where is a Sega when you need one.

[EXVirtual]

I'd really prefer Sega.

[BOLO]

SEEEEEEGAAAAAA!

[GraveLord]

Very very interesting. Look at the game pre-orderr, Xbone One only has 1 game over 200k and that's Call of Duty Ghosts. PS4 has 3 which included COD, BF4 and Killzone. That's 3 shooters that are selling better on the PS4.

Also worth noting that the Call of Duty pre-orders are very very close on PS4 and XB1 considering the gap in console sales which is 600k vs 350k. Looks like the Xbox One is still holding on to a decent amount of COD fans.

[bjmartynhak]

If you count the total games among these top 10, the ratio is lower than in relation to the consoles, around 1.5

Seems that XB1 owners are buying proportionally more games. But we also have to consider that most people are getting Driveclub digitally and the loads of F2P games. And maybe PS4 owners have more diverse taste.

I would like to see a bigger list

[Themba76]

I hate cod thats why im going over to Sony im so sick of my friends list consist of 95% cod players it's time for a new start.

[BlaqMagiq24]

If the PS4 even leads in the US then it shows MS grip on the US is loosening real fast.

[lifesanrpg]

Quick question, how does VG Charts get their numbers?

[Destrania]

Awesome and well deserved. Can't wait to play my PS4 on the 15th!

[bjmartynhak]

No Driveclub,

People are surely going to try the PS+ plus version first

Edit: Oh, and no Infamous: Second Son... =/
Destiny and Titanfall are really impressive then.

[Shadowolf]

Yeah I noticed that as well.

[Destrania]

Got my Driveclub copy pre-ordered!

[bjmartynhak]

I thought about getting the physical too. The case is pretty sick! But I will try the PS+ version first.

[Destrania]

Fair enough haha. It seems that a lot of people will be doing it that way as well.

[MasterCornholio]

What impresses me is that even with exclusive content on the Xbox One, Battlefield 4 and Call of Duty Ghosts have more preorders on the PS4.

Also the PS4 is ahead by 250000 in the USA which is generally Xbox territory.

Glad to see that consumers are supporting the PS4 so heavily because Sony did an amazing job with the console.

And I'm glad that Americans are punishing Microsoft for their DRM scandal now that's voting with your wallet in effect.

Regardless both are amazing systems and I can't wait to see the battles between the two in the future.

P.S VGchartz isn't run by Sony fanboys.

Lol

Motorola RAZR i

[denawayne]

Digital for me

[6DEAD6END6]

Same here all digital so I can enjoy remote play with all my games anywhere I want.

[tristanwerbe]

Sony fanboys

[5eriously]

Says a 2 bubble M$ eXBox FannyBoy.

Bubble down bud.

[BlaqMagiq24]

Good use of a bubble /s

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Here on N4XBox Titanfall is always mentioned as one of the reasons The Xbox1 launch is better then the PS4 launch.For some reason now the Xbox fans are stating you can't compare Titanfall's preorders because it's not a launch game.Only here on N4Xbox can you get away with this.

[T2]

Exactly although the preorder numbers may be acceptable for a game with no date!! But to hear it around here, titanfall will singlehandedly win next gen, lol

[RandomDude655]

At least we won't have to hear much about NPD's this gen. Looks like many haven't seen Titanfall

[bassambient]

Killzone the only good game sony have at lauch
Bahhhhh xbox for life

[nosferatuzodd]

You go ps4 you go sweet tooth

[6DEAD6END6]

I have a feeling that the PS4 will out sell the Xbox One by the end of 2014 2.5:1 worldwide, and 2:1 in NA.

[RandomDude655]

I'm guessing 3:1 or possibly even 4:1. Microsoft is losing in the only markets they won last gen.

[6DEAD6END6]

That's why I can see them having a $100 price drop next holiday season.

[AllroundGamer]

I also guessed 3:1 in 2013, 4:1 is too much, but i think it will really be 2:1 which is also a big win for PS4.

[russo121]

Hey people, calm down... everybody bashing xbone but I must say competition is good for everyone.
The real problem here is if Sony becames dominant as previous 2 generations (ps2), I think, the price of ps4 games will increase - that's a bad thing.
Anyway i'll buy one when in stores - no pre-order for me.

[windblowsagain]

Titanfall is futher away, so bare that in mind. But it's also a FPS - One of the biggest markets there is.

Knack is a Launch title aimed at kids and adults who like platform type games. Nobody really knows except nintendo how big these markets are.

[ASH_ufo]

absolutely right!
200000+ ))))

[gdguide]

If true, this is badddd for the X1. But since when is VGCharts reliable? What are their sources?

If Sony is doing this on Microsoft's turf though, I can't imagine the rest of the world. The UK should be a bit better for the PS4 than this, and the rest of the world will offering a wayyyy bigger gap than this.

Titanfall is further away, but a game like Forza 5 being so low is a really bad sign for Microsoft.

Again though, since when it VGCharts reliable?

[Bill_Willson_CIA]

Simple math:

PS4 = P.S.4 = (PS).4 = (PS).2.2 = PS2²

PS2 era is back!!!!

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Pulp Fiction.

[lovelobster]

Is Simple!! Xbox have more games to choose, Ps4 only have a good game Killzone.

[stuna1]

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel good! I'm all for feeling good.

[5eriously]

Go little boy, momma is calling, it's time to suckle now. One day you will learn to count and reason with logic but today is not that time

[hellzsupernova]

Hahahahahaha we use to say that about a lot of our exclusive

[EditorAtGNG]

Why are people so bent on putting MS to the torch? Hello, if MS decides to shut down the Xbox division there won't be a competitor to force Sony to produce more quality content. You people really need to understand that if the Xbone fails, it will hurt not only MS but the industry itself. Less competition, less innovation... Sony will monopolize the market the stagnation will follow.

Just shut up and let them fix their shit. After all that hate I think they got the message. If you don't want it, just fucking buy a PS4 and stop with the whining. Jeez...

[5eriously]

M$ is the one and only cause of this, they've put themselves down. There is gaming life and other competition after M$

[Reem]

So Killzone has more preorders than all Xbone exclusives combined LOL

[Shadowolf]

I was just looking at that. In fact, you can add the Madden numbers to that as well and KZ:SF still has more combined pre-orders, that's pretty crazy!

[PS4isKing_82]

Xbox one will be a fine console. The fanboys need to stop being 12 year olds. The original Xbox was crushed sales wise by the ps2 and I still loved it regardless. Each jc sole brings something unique to the table.

[hellzsupernova]

Halo and desert storm so good on the original xbox made me jealous I only had a ps2 but I was also younger and didnt care at all about big companies lol

[Brazz]

Titanfall > 28.000 > not a exclusive for long...

[stuna1]

@Brazz

You should put it like this: Titanfall + 28,000 = not a exclusive for long....

[Shadowolf]

Wow, according to this list Killzone Shadow Fall on the PS4 has more pre-orders than Dead Rising 3, RYSE Son of Rome, FORZA 5 and Madden NFL 25 combined on the Xbox One.

That is pretty insane for an exclusive shooter.

[TheKingWilliamV]

I want to be excited for my PS4 but reading these comments make me want to vomit. I mean some of you are delusional why on earth would Knack which is releasing 15 November 2013 have less pre orders than Titanfall which has no release date? The fact that a game like Titanfall has 20,000 reserves speaks more volume than Knacks 40,000.

[Saleem101]

Damn xbone is getting smack up lol....

[USMC_POLICE]

Sad numbers for ryse, forza and titanfall and how close cod is to bf4 that's also sad.

[shinrock]

Kingdom Come + 7h ago
Wait, so people trust VGChartz now?
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THIS

[Pintheshadows]

If this is true then i'm mainly happy for Guerilla. They have turned alot of peoples head with KZSF. And i'm not talking about hardcore gamers here. I have a couple of friends who usually only play COD and FIFA and they have been drooling over it. Surprised me I have to say as they had never heard of KZ before. If Sony advertises well this gen I can see them really pushing forward in a big way.

[Drainage]

nice to see kzsf near COD. also nice to see cod not at the top mauhauhahu

[Potato2]

Knack is beating Titanfall in pre orders LOL. Ea must be in panic mode.

[AsunaYuukiTheFlash]

YEY! PS4 will reign supreme. :)

[TheGreatGamer]

Welcome to the new age..again..let the ps4 into your lives xbone fanboys, see the light, join the smart gamers and pre-order a ps4

[josephayal]

omg this is terrible for titanfall

[Neofranco]

I didn't know I can pre-order Titanfall already, damn it, I'll do it tomorrow.

[SynestheticRoar]

Titanfail. WTH is happening. Those numbers are sorry.

[Orpheo]

@ Kingdom Come
Of course people trust VG Chartz. Understandably the numbers might be off a bit but those are likely the approximate values.

Even the Guinness Book of World Records references VG Chartz as a source, and Guinness is considered the undisputed stat and record keepers of, well, just about everything. ;)

[hellzsupernova]

They dont track the record for the world's largest stool lol

[Nik_P757]

VGChartz is a good source for software numbers. Not that it matters, the consoles aren't even out yet.... First year software/hardware numbers mean nothing. If it keeps up the first couple years, especially in the US then it'll be PS4 console domination. The US is the X1's only hope to win a console war. Look at this gen, the 360 is largely outselling the PS3 in the US but the PS3 is still outselling it worldwide.

[horndog]

Titan is gonna rock. Only 7 months away. Too bad its not a launch title. Isnt titan going to be on the 360 as well and pc? It will do fine. Too bad the ps4 isn't getting this one.

[EXVirtual]

I can't believe these are US numbers. If so, MS is losing it's only power ground. I will say that we shouldn't base everything at launch though. However, I know that the PS4 will outsell the XB1.

[H0RSE]

It's humorous seeing so many people already claiming victory for the PS4 based off pre-order numbers, which only account for launch sales... It's like a marathon runner convinced he's the winner because he has the lead at the first turn...

[NateCole]

Early lead will be with the PS4 which is a safe bet. The console race though is far from over.

[ooquis]

i'm a tech junkie....can't wait to get my hands on this beaut!

[Cuders]

In my opinion what console sales more doesn't matter to me i will be buying the best console for the right price PS4.

[NateCole]

Come on guys. It's VGCrap. I am sure the PS4 is ahead but i will never ever trust figures for VGCrap.

[Jacobster]

I think Fifa skews the figures as it is free with the Xboxone and quite interesting BF4 is so high up on PS4

[Potato2]

Fifa is only free in Europe and these are US numbers only.

[Jacobster]

Fair point!

[PulpoTonto]

Knack is a launch title, Titanfall isn't. Of course Knack is pushing better numbers. The fact it's has about a sixth of the numbers of the two shooters is the most disheartening thing :(

[Denethor_II]

COD Ghosts is selling better on the PS4 in the US?

[ThunderBarracuda]

Looks like the PS4 will be the standard for Third party titles. the numbers speak for themselves. Just look at BF4 preorders on the PS4 compared to the X1

[hankmoody]

The complete opposite of the PS3 then!

[ThunderBarracuda]

Xone's current flagship game....COD Ghosts. LEL!

[hankmoody]

In regards to Knack outselling Titanfall, that only serves to show how little there is to choose from the PS4 launch line up if Knack is selling THAT well. Titanfall isn't dropping for another 6-7 months so we'll see just how well it sells by then.

[DialgaMarine]

And to clarify, this is only in NA. The figures for the rest of the world are probably unbelievable in favor of PS4. Sorry XBoners. It's looking like your precious console has once again lost it's only strong market.

[baraka007]

i don't game anymore I just troll msg boards about gaming. That's why I would like to thank everyone on this site and others for these articles.

[Tada]

" http://alienwaregiveaway.ne... Thank you so much for the chance to win!

[Sonysexual]

EA and Crytek: WHY!? WHY!? WHY DID WE SIGN A DEAL WITH MICROSOFT!?? WAAAAAAH!!! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!

[lunatic0001]

i hope both consoles do well so there can always be some competition to innovate and make more quality hardware and software...seems there are a bunch of idiots in this site that either want ms or sony to fail hard...what a bunch of loyal retards

[Clarence]

Where is killer instinct?

[malakar]

Hmm, titanfall is pretty far from a lot of other games... Maybe they'll reconsider the "origin only choice" It's strange to see game getting more pre order on PS4... Still gonna stick to my pc though.

[modesign]

killzone SF has more preorders than deadrising, forza, ryse COMBINED. pretty sad for the xbone exclusives.

[Orpheo]

Speaking of exclusive pre-order figures, KZ: Shadow Fall (221,710) has higher pre-sales than Dead Rising (61,254) + Forza (56,201) + Ryse (57,962) + Titanfall (27,956), in other words all M$ exclusives combined.

221,710 > 203,373

[PickAShoe]

wow Titanfall, where did all the hype train go?

[bjmartynhak]

Something interesting:

Killzone is doing better than Watch Dogs and AC4, even considering that they will have some kind of exclusive content.

On the other hand, Ryse, Forza and DR3 are behind these 2 multiplats.

Either Killzone is calling lots of attention, or... it is due to the fact that on Xbox sales are spread among 3 exclusives, while PS4 concentrating in only one (Knack is far behind, not focused for early-adopters hardcore gamers and Driveclub is "free" and people will mostly buy digital later)

[cevans]

It's crazy how many people are looking to buy multi-platform games at launch.

Maybe it's me, but I want to see what hardware can do. Multiplatform games by definition are limited by the weakest platform they are on. The only thing developers can really do is increase the texture resolution or add some displacement mapping or rendering features. The animations/characters will look the same. Big set pieces will look the same.

[AndrewLB]

The n4g forums are undeniable proof that Sony fanboys are nuts, and far more likely to pre-order the latest playstation.

What surprises me about those numbers is how BOTH of them are far less than I was expecting.