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AMD: Calling PS4 And Xbox One “PCs In A Box” Is Patently Untrue

PR Lead for Gaming and Enthusiast Graphics at AMD Robert Hallock talks about upcoming technology for PCs, and how close these would sync up to games that we'd be seeing on the Xbox One and PS4.

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PeaSFor3893d ago

a pc is already a "pc in a box"

well.... unless you simply put it on a test bench and not a case.

this article is totally futile.

Eyeco3893d ago

I agree, I've never understood this statement, Isn't every single gaming console that has ever, or will ever be released essentially PC's that are dedicated to gaming? They have CPU'S ,GPU'S, mother boards list goes on, all consoles are essentially computers.

Up until now the only thing that's separated consoles from PC's aside from power has always been the games for example WRPG'S, FPS, RTS, almost every western developed games were associated with PC's whereas Japanese developed games were always associated with consoles. (JRPG's, Fighting games, Platformers, side scrollers)

If Japanese gaming was the behemoth in consoles the way it was 15-20 years ago then I highly doubt these statements would have been made. In fact they never were made all those years ago, it's only because the line between games on consoles and PC's has been blurred heavily with the rise of western development houses.

Sayai jin3893d ago

Call them what you want...I'll call them happiness. I'm still gonna be getting them.

MrCrimson3893d ago

That's because most PC owners are smart enough to buy intel.

Hello_World3893d ago

With the direction next gen is headed, you might be smarter to buy AMD now.

MrCrimson3892d ago

http://www.cpubenchmark.net...

Current CPU market shares. If you are saying in terms of performance in games that perhaps AMD would be preferable in the future you may be right if I plan on playing only ported games (which I don't play any.) In terms of overclocking and long lasting performance Intel is second to none. I currently own a sandy bridge model which is two generations old yet performs more than admirably in all requested tasks.

Hello_World3892d ago (Edited 3892d ago )

Both next gen consoles are using 8 core AMD CPUs. So ALL next gen games will be coded to use hyperthreading like we've seen with a lot of recent titles (notice DICE showing BF4 off on AMD CPU and GPU?)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Look at the results for all the modern games with a FX 8350 and 3570K overclocked in the video. Imagine the FX 9370 or new chips coming. Now take into account that all games will be built with AMDs CPU structure in mind.

I built a PC a couple of weeks ago, and I asked a buddy of mine who has a amazing rig(HD 7990), talked about it with some guys at geek squad and a local computer store about their opinion on where PC gaming is heading and which processor I should choose for the long haul into next generation.

All but one guy (who used Intel) said they believed AMD would be at a huge advantage this next generation with applications using hyperthreading more and more, and with both consoles now being made with an AMD 8-core CPU. Intel has always had better single core performance, but gaming is obviously headed in the direction of AMD's CPUs and it's silly to say otherwise.

I'm not saying Intel will struggle, I have no clue what will happen...but both next gen consoles running on AMD CPUs will result in good performance for PC gaming if you too have an AMD CPU.

awi59513893d ago

Yeah intel are full of themselves and always been way overpriced. If your game runs at 60 fps there isnt any point in paying more.

Dasteru3893d ago

Actually the truly smart ones know to only buy a CPU that is powerful enough not to bottleneck whatever GPU they get.

90% of the performance advantage of Intel over AMD is in exclsuive features such as hyper threading, which no game is actually capable of utilizing. Benchmark after benchmark have proven that the best Intel CPUs provide about a 2-3fps tops boost over the best AMD CPUs.

SpecialK3893d ago

Actually depending on the use AMD can be a pretty smart choice.

On the lower end you get more cores, which makes AMD CPU's dramatically better in benchmarks for threaded applications such as photoshop, rendering programs etc.

And then the gap between intel and AMD is never more than 2-3fps anyway. getting a CPU that wont bottleneck your graphics card is simple hence why so many people opt for an fx 6300 for cheaper builds.

Plus considering that multi core gaming is only growing, theyre only going to get better and better.

Its all down to cost/preformance really and both get the job done. If your money nop object them an i7 is the way to go, but your getting little gains for serious cash.

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The_Truth_24_73893d ago

It's better than a high end pc in a box.

Lunarassassin3893d ago

I love the Ps4 as much as the next console gamer, but that is one of the most idiotic statements i've seen.

Corpser3893d ago

A high end pc that 1080p 60fps is not a given and can't use pc hi res textures on cod ghost, yeah

FlameBaitGod3893d ago

1080p is old stuff, 2500 x 1600 resolution is where its at

JsonHenry3893d ago

It is using slightly modified off the shelf PC parts and is a x86 platform. Smells like PC to me.

Hello_World3893d ago

They both use APU's, so a weaker tablet-based PC.

FantasyStar3893d ago (Edited 3893d ago )

That's not true: recall back with the Xbox that was running a modified Geforce 3 GPU, and it was able to play Doom 3 pretty well, compared to a PC at the time that needed at least a Geforce FX GPU to run competently: 'slightly-modified' is an understatement here. If you get into the more nit and grit like Xenos GPU having its own embedded EDRAM for DX10 AA, or the PS3 RSX GPU having a higher GFLOP than the actual G71 core its based on (400 vs 380 >Geforce 7800GTX). The reference cores for the consoles have been modified and tailored to their hardware because running a 'slightly modified' R520 GPU (or the AMD-ATI X1000 series) with a wattage of 203W (at the time) is fucking impossible for a PC at that. I know cause I tried it. The word "patently untrue" is the qualifier here than makes the AMD PR guy's statement true in that specific sense.

If you want to call the X1 a "PC in a box": I'd think its true since it's using the same MinWin kernel that Win 8 uses for PCs/Tablets. For PS4? I'm not so sure...

awi59513893d ago

Man and that xbox version of doom 3 looked like crap. The gap between pc and console was even wider back then hell i was gaming in HD back then as well lol and at higher rez than 720P.

AndrewLB3893d ago

Yeah. And that only happened because consoles at the time didn't have any of the operating system overhead as found on Windows based machines.

Those days are over though. These new consoles have elaborate operating systems which require 1-2gb of RAM just to operate as well as a certain amount of CPU cycles. The "hardware advantage" that consoles once enjoyed will not be seen on the PS4 or Xbone.

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Soul Covenant (PC VR) Review - CGMagazine

Soul Covenant feels like a game from the early 2000s, with its repetitive gameplay loop, waggle controls, and nonsensical story.

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Cold VR is all About Acting Super Hot

Indie developer Carlos Alfonso is working on Cold VR, a game where standing still isn't an option. The complete opposite to SUPERHOT VR.

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Abnor_Mal4h ago

This sounds very interesting, Superhot was a great game to take inspiration from.

Babadook72h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I liked the VR version of SUPERHOT. If this ends up being as good I'l pick it up (once available) for PSVR2.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow15h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos3h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos1h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje1h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon1h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum4h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

SimpleDad47m ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

CobraKai16m ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.