PS4 & Xbox One 'Must Embrace Free-To-Play To Stay Relevant'

"Speaking at Gamescom, Warface senior producer Wim Coveliers has told NowGamer that he believes it is vital that the PS4 and Xbox One take free-to-play seriously.

"I think its essential for PS4 and Xbox One to embrace free-to-play if they want to stay relevant," said Coveliers."

[golding89]

Wouldn't free to play mean no more xbox live and ps plus subscriptions?

If that's the case, not going to happen.

[ExPresident]

No, it wouldn't, considering Sony has already said you can play F2P games on the PS4 without a PS+ subscription.

[n4rc]

Gonna be pretty interesting when they tell EA and Activision that THEIR customers have to pay Sony a sub to play THEIR games.. But not these guys.. They are special and can play for free.

Lol

[AsimLeonheart]

I do not trust this F2P format. I think F2P is just the next DLC. DLC allowed game companies to sell a $60 game for even more than $100. For example, I calculated the price of the DLC for FFXIII-2 and it was worth $60. It means that SE was able to sell a $60 game for $120. Now F2P will give them even more chances to squeeze extra money. For example, Killer Instinct for Xbone is F2P but only contains ONE playable character and you will have to $5 to download a single character! It means that you will be paying more than $100 if you want the full features of a F2P game!

[MysticStrummer]

@n4rc - EA and Activision will be making that call for their own games, not Sony.

[ExPresident]

@AsimLeonheart

Save the cries. You control the fate of those companies by your wallet. If people think the format is crap then don't buy it. I'd tell Microsoft where they could stick $5 per character for Killer Instinct.

Don't support shitty policies.

[n4rc]

@mysticstrummer

how so?

buy any game from them and want to play it online? gotta have ps+

unless you are f2p.. then you can have your customers not have to pay extra to play it..

if cod didnt require ps+ then more people would buy it (in theory). how is this not a big FU to activision?

its makes zero sense to me quite honestly..

[Hicken]

The hell are you talking about, n4rc?

[Loki86]

KI is $20 for all 8 characters including DLC. If you go the demo route and only add 1 or 2 characters then you can do that as well. It is called options people.

[Roper316]

the only f2p games locked behind a pay wall are on the XB1 / 360, Sony has stated several times that F2P is just that and PS+ is not needed to enjoy the,.

Maybe one day you will tell it like it is instead of spreading BS, you're either flat out right lying about it and know the truth or are just are one misinformed person who speaks when he doesn't know what he is talking about.

MS = F2P behind a paywall

PS4 = F2P not behind a paywall

Nothing worse than a fanboy who is a liar / misinformed on top of being a fanboy.

[golding89]

lol Angry rant from a sony supporter. Sheesh dude..don't kill me.

[MysticStrummer]

"Angry rant from a sony supporter."

I guess the truth = angry rant now

smh

[first1NFANTRY]

"Wouldn't free to play mean no more xbox live and ps plus subscriptions?

If that's the case, not going to happen."

dude the amount of false information you spread on this site is incredibly tiring. do you live on this site or something? you're always the first to spread nonsense.

[HammadTheBeast]

To people crying over the F2P model, just look at games like League of Legends and Planetside and Tekken Revolution to see that, if implemented right, it is pretty sweet.

[dktxx2]

I hope that free-2-pay, excuse me, free-to-play never, ever crosses the minds of Sony, Microsoft, or any talented developer ever. We get nickel and dimed enough already.

[WorldGamer]

But you are not forced to buy anything really, so it's really up to the individual how much they would like to put into the product.

I wouldn't say all gaming should go this route, but some might like it. At the least it is a good way to gauge if you like the game, but I definitely see your point.

[MestreRothN4G]

Yes, the gamer always has the choice to never play any full Little Big Planet game again. Sad still.

F2P are the most expensive games. If you pay 60 bucks for them, you'll have less than half the content. Note: usually average content due to the "free" excuse.

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But, since those are the cheaper and most lucrative games, yes, say goodbye to 60 USD retail "full" games. They're dying.

[ABeastNamedTariq]

@Roth

That was a little excessive, don't you think?

And, okay Mr. Analyst, $60 games are dying. /s

[ExPresident]

I agree with you to an extent, but if its done right - ala League of Legends, then I'm ok with it. They have a great F2P model.

[Deadpoolio]

Ummm Micro$haft has already locked Free 2 play behind a pay wall...While Sony has already stated several times that you can play free 2 play games without a plus subscription

[UnHoly_One]

I hate the free to play model. Absolutely hate it.

If they move towards this, I hope they at least offer games both ways, so you can pay your 60 bucks and just get the whole game without any nonsense.

[Ashlen]

While i'd like to agree with you, and I used to have the same opinion. These days I am of mixed mind on F2P. I have played a lot of really good F2P, and I know a lot of gamers who really like F2P games.

If you haven't had much experience with F2P most of the games have some sort of method to obtain everything with out paying cash which really eliminates the Pay 2 Win factor.

Personally i'm hoping Guild Wars 2 and Neverwinter will make it on to console. Both of them were designed with interfaces that would easily translate to consoles. (set number of abilities seems to translate to set number of buttons on console)

[WorldGamer]

Well, the PS4 is already embracing this so I guess they are on the right track. Not to mention you don't need PS+ to play the F2P games.

I can't wait.

Edit:

Phantom disagree without a well thought out response, gotta love it. It's a good conversation to have, sad that whoever chose to disagree didn't have anything productive to say. Here is hoping they will share a nugget of wisdom on the subject.

[avengers1978]

My thoughts are the same as yours... Playstation already is embracing F2P games, and they did this outside of plus subscriptions, so they truly are FREE to play.

Your always gonna get disagrees, no matter how sound your logic is

[ABeastNamedTariq]

DCUO, Planetside 2, FFXIV. Yeah they're off to a great start! Hopefully Everquest and other F2P games like that come to PS4. I don't know about XB1 since ALL online things require Gold. F2P game developers (such as Square Enix) are shying away from putting their games on XB1 because of that.

[Deadpoolio]

Micro$haft has already said that yes you have to be a gold member to even think about playing free to play games

[DarkBlood]

Its fine to embrace it but to think that it needs them to be relevant is not the right idea in my opinion.

[josh14399]

I'm not a fan of free to play games but I'm not a fan of online multiplayer either

[Ganbaron]

It's funny how what these developers always think is needed to be "relevant" is the exact opposite of what gamers actually want.

[sigfredod]

Sony already did embrace it and is the most relevant next gen console right now

[STANK08]

Paywall or no paywall F2P is cancerous to gaming. Avoid it like the black plauge

[ExPresident]

League of Legends and their millions of players disagree's. Point being, if its done right, its fine.

[1lawrence]

No that's xbox 1

[Blues Cowboy]

Maybe. But the more I think about it, PERSONALLY, the more I don't really care about F2P on consoles.

I have a PC, and play loads of F2P stuff on it. I play Planetside 2. Warframe. War Thunder. You know, all that stuff that's coming to the PS4 - I'm playing it NOW and have been for months. Still, at least Sony are making the effort!

What I need, really, is some juicy AAA exclusives. I hate myself for saying it, but when it comes to paying out hundreds of pounds, that's what probably matters to me. When Sony announces GoW IV or Uncharted 4, I'm going to be all over it.

[nukeworker1]

f2p means yes you can play for free. It also means you must pay to win...

[MysticStrummer]

No it doesn't. Pay to win means you have to pay to unlock things that will help you win. Free to play means you can unlock those same things through gameplay.

[MasterCornholio]

From what i read the PS4 is the only console to offer a true FTP model which is why games like PlanetSide 2 and Warframe dont require PlayStation Plus to play online.

[thegreatklemba]

a FTP dev, saying consoles need to embrace FTP to stay current.Job security is what that guys is doing