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PS4 vs Xbox One: Online Features

CVG takes a look at the online services for both the PS4 and the Xbox one, leaving you to decide which machine has the edge.

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Ksar3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

Is there any difference between PS3 and PS4 for the playstation+ ? If we have to pay to play online now, i hope they put a lot of innovation like dedicated servers or smart matchmaking...

iamnsuperman3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

No but the instant collection has been a worth while investment. I think the testament to that service's value is people choose to pay for it when they didn't need to. It is a good service. Yes dedicated serves would be good but getting Battlefield 3, Spec ops and so on was also very cool. Not exactly small games

Ksar3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

So, it's exactly the same service but now, online gaming is no longer free.

Man, that sucks. At least, I hope we won't have another psngate...

iamnsuperman3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

@Ksar but it doesn't cost any more. It is just forcing those who didn't buy the PSN plus in the first place to get it. To these people there is that added value of getting games in the instant collection with the PSN Plus. The people who got it in the first place had online for for free as well as the service for the same price as it is now. There is no difference included the online component.

So there is no "sucks" about it

Also "Psngate". Microsoft's live wasn't exactly safe either. Remember the Fifa incident with people stealing money through outlook. And you paid for that. Michael Pachter had money stolen from his account. Microsoft gave him the equivalent back but it was stolen again so he just gave up http://www.neogaf.com/forum... . That issue was never addressed properly.

Remember no service is safe.

JokesOnYou3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Yeah Ksar it's exactly the same service but now, online gaming is no longer free. Of course those apologist will tell you its OK now, after years of saying it wasn't right to force you to pay for the other half of your game. Hopefully now though they will see that although everybody wants something for free at least you can expect a premium service to add more value with other services and seamless updates to the UI.

I've enjoyed gaming online without dedicated servers so not having dedicated servers is not a deal breaker for me but its awesome that X1 offers dedicated servers to devs now, this means no more host advantage and it will also help fix some of the occasional lag issues.

There are other nice things about XBL I'm looking forward to checking out like, Better Matchmaking, Enhanced Reputation Enforcement
New Achievements and using Snap Mode to switch to youtube or whatever while waiting in the matchmaking lobby. I like how Microsoft is always finding ways to improve the online atmosphere.

UnHoly_One3911d ago

iamnsuperman, comparing a few users getting their accounts taken over to an entire network being breached, exposing user's passwords and credit card info in the process is a bit of stretch, don't you think?

I know you're a PS fanboy and all, but c'mon... really?

HammadTheBeast3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

The fact that major things like 15 minute recording, cross-game chat, apps, Netflix, etc, aren't locked behind pay walls is enough for me.

@Unholy One, do some research please, no credit card info was taken, only the network was hacked.

I think it's pathetic now that "dedicated servers" and "matchmaking" is innovation.

Did you miss Wipeout, Warhawk, Star hawk, Killzone, etc all with dedicated servers?

UnHoly_One3911d ago

Hammad, if no credit card info was accessed in the breach, then why did they give everyone a free subscription to an Identity Theft Protection service?

iamnsuperman3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

@unholy_one
it wasnt a few and clearly a breach of a kind was there as it only happened on Live. Credit card details were not compramised but they could have been (which is bad) No-one has come forward saying they have suspicious paymeny made on their accounts.

My point was no online service is secure no matter how much you pay which is evident by those two examples. Please leave fanboy accusations at the door and stop seeing what you want to see. I was responding to ksar's comment referencing the psn hack

I feel people should read the comments and the context on this site before replying

mewhy323911d ago

Well I wish the online was free, that's for sure. However, I can understand that the maintenance costs, overhead, etc., made that a business model that just couldn't be maintained. But even with that the PSN+ is a better deal that Live because of the instant games collection. Even with the free account you can do party chat and get non gaming app access. Not like micro$oft that wants to milk the sheep for everything they can get by requiring a gold account to access anything.

UnHoly_One3911d ago

There are no "fanboy" comments being made here, Superman.

I'm simply stating that the two incidents are quite simply not on the same level.

I'm not saying XBL is perfect and incapable of being breached because quite honestly there is no such thing. XBL might be getting hacked right now for all I know, I'm just going on what we know from the past.

ShinMaster3911d ago

Xbox One still keeps features like party chat, video share and media apps like Netflix behind a paywall while they're free on PS4 including F2P games.
Also there are new features added to PSN overall

Not to mention you fanboys are purposely ignoring the value in PS Plus alone. http://www.destructoid.com/...
$50 for $1000+ worth of content including, not just free games, but also discounts, exclusive content and other features.
http://www.ign.com/articles...
http://www.ign.com/articles...
PS Plus simply offers more and it's cheaper.

JokesOnYou3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Hammad nobody said its innovation, those things are just some of the reasons WHY Live is BETTER, well unless you are buying the console to not game online so you cant get free Netflix. lol

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MizTv3912d ago

There are ps3 games right now with dedicated servers

NegativeCreepWA3912d ago

The difference is MS is giving all devs the option to use dedicated servers, Sony only supported their own titles, and it was only a few of them. As far as I know Sony doesn't even offer matchmaking servers for devs, while MS always has.

This is the one area MS has always been ahead in, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

DA_SHREDDER3912d ago

Even if what you said is true, the difference in lag is hardly noticable to most people, and only a vocal minority of gamers will throw a fit about it. It hasn't stopped gamers from playing online so far, and for me, sure it would be nice to have dedicated servers, but im not gonna whine and cry like a baby when its not a game breaker.

Brix903911d ago

@NegativeCreep
Ps4 has cloud service too the Gakai even though we still don't know what both services will actually do till we get our hands on new consoles. The point I'm making is PS4 will have similar service

NegativeCreepWA3911d ago

Sorry, but that's pure speculation. And until Sony lays out their online plans that's all it is.

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AxeCain3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

I am pretty certain that the majority of games on the PS4 will run on dedicated servers. Driveclub, Killzone, Battlefield 4 - I have read will.
I think there is a major misconception over Microsoft's "dedicated servers"

GodGinrai3911d ago

"I think there is a major misconception over Microsoft's "dedicated servers""

Really? would you care to explain?

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cozomel3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

ksar

Stop trolling please, it very obvious you're just a hater. PSN now has party chat (on PSvita and PS4) basically putting PSN on parity with XBLive in that regard. And PS3 has had way more games with dedicated servers this gen then MS has had by far and these are facts, not no fanboy opinions. And you get WAYYY more value for your money with Plus than you do with Live. With Live are just paying for the right to play online. 360/X1 games should come with a version of the come that doesn't have the online component and is cheaper, otherwise you are paying full price for the game but only getting half the game til you pay MS for the right to play the other half of the game you payed full price for

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cozomel3911d ago

How do you know you cant do half those things on the PS4? Also, i thought this way such a pro Sony website, so why are all the pro MS guys getting way more agrees and all the Sony guys getting more disagrees?

cozomel3908d ago

I guest MS fanboys cant handle the truth, sad really

jaelegend3911d ago

yes they have servers now plus gaming streaming later in 2014

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Majin-vegeta3912d ago

@Ksar oh you mean M$ is playing catch up to Sony again with Dedi servers on the xbone??lol

OpieWinston3911d ago

Playing Catch up? Do you know anything about Microsoft?

Oh and "M$" what are you 12 years old?

They're both MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS, they both want your money. If you think that Sony is any different when it comes to their goals then you my friend are retarded.

blackstrr4113912d ago

No contest in online gaming. Ms all the way.

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Bluepowerzz3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

but why cant this fish head explain why and i bet if he does he will mention a bunch of deluded bs i have both and ps3 online is better overall my 360 is in a river now . vvv smh

pacostacos3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

its a personal preference i prefer xbox live cause of party chat and stuff its really an awesome feature when gaming with buddies others prefer psn because of its free or psn + because of the games you get and stuff... its all personal preference! but when it comes down to it your comparing paid versus free (not counting ps+) and it shows in the quality of the service this is why sony is going the paid route this time to improve the psn service their words not mine

mcstorm3912d ago

@Bluepowerzz pacostacos is spot on. Xbox live is not better than PSN just like PSN is not better than xbox live. They are services that are offered to us and you should go for the one that fits you best not what someone tells you what is best. For me xbox live works better as I can cross chat with my friends not matter what im doing on my console and no matter what they are doing. I also use Smart Glass a lot for music as I have a xbox music pass and being able to change the album/song using my tablet or phone from a different room is good for me. This is my needs and it is not everyone's needs I opted not to get PS+ as it did not really fit into what I wanted from the service as I am happy to buy a game as soon as it comes out rather than wait for it to come on PS+ plus the Sony Music dose not work with my music devices but like I said this will fit other peoples lives better.

PSN and XBL all have + and - points its just up to the user of who it fits better.

walkincarpet3911d ago

I have both but only online game on xbox because it really is no contest and the gap will widen next gen.

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PositiveEmotions3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

It seems that the ps4's psn/ps+ beats xblg

Bluepowerzz3912d ago

oh is there someone who actually knows what hes talking about :) nice

Saddam_hussein3912d ago

I'm not 100%,
But I think you might have some issues bud

TheRealHeisenberg3912d ago

LiveGold = better service.
PS+ = way better value.

Just my two cents.

True_Samurai3912d ago

I agree on that. Xbl do have better services. In my theory I believe the reason Sony bought gakai was to bring over to the ps4 side so they could use the PS+ value on there.

Kayant3911d ago

Live= More things behind a paywall - party chat, certain apps, F2p games but it seems like a richer online experience( Smart match, Dedi servers)

PSN= Only online play lock behind a paywall.

But I think it's still early days to really compare them and after pay live for some time now I appreciate value more.

nukeitall3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

I think this is key. We don't know until we get hands on.

On the surface, PSN as it is now *seems* similar to Xbox Live, but once you use it, you realize the differences.

Xbox Live is far easier to use, more people talk online, and there is party chat/cross game chat, revamped dashboards with new featurs and so on, but this comes at a fee while PSN is completely free.

You will have to wait and see, get some real hands on time before you know.

It's like eating at a restaurant, they all serve steak, but the flavor and quality ain't the same!

GodGinrai3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

"LiveGold = better service.
PS+ = way better value. "

I agree with this. MS dont give as much freebies as they should considering how muchbmoney they make on live. XBL rewards was ok but it takes too long to amass a descent amount of MSP. At least they are doing this 2 free games a month thing but, they should have their own "instant collection". This is why I think they should port over the XBLA games. tonnes of stuff they can give away for free on there. It only need be 20 XBLA games and a few AA/AAA games.

EDIT:sorry had to change "their" to "there". lol

Kayant3911d ago

Yep exactly.... And the Games for gold thing is just an offer until around the time the Xbox one comes out.

That's the problem I have with live the value is just so low and add to that that we get non-gaming ads for a *premium* service is just sad.

GodGinrai3911d ago

@Kayant

The ads I can live with. They are just little unobstrusive tiles on some of the menus. They dont even make a sound unless you click on them.

I agree with you though.they should do more to reward customers. more specifically customers who have been paying for the service for a long time. Like when they gave out special edition 360s to all the people that have been on XBL for ten years. I been on XBL for around 7. I own 137 arcade games (many of which i bought in XBL sales to be honest) I have bought DLC of all kinds. On account of that they should be rewarding people that make that kind of investment in their service.

What I would like to know on the PSN side of things is, if the PSN Instant game collection transfers over to PS4, given that is is different hardware? or will they give you that collection VIA Gaikai?

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow17h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos5h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos3h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje3h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon3h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum6h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola44m ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum32m ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola21m ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

SimpleDad2h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola44m ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos33m ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai2h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK1h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh1h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

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Warframe's Protea Prime Access launches on all platforms on May 1st, 2024

"Digital Extremes are today very happy and proud to announce that Warframe’s next highlightly anticipated Prime form launches soon with Protea Prime Access arriving on all platforms on May 1st, 2024." - Digital Extremes.