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Thief Should Remind Us to Avoid the Pre-Release Hype

Looking forward to the reboot of Thief? You shouldn’t be; amid horror stories concerning the game’s development, Eidos Montreal, the studio developing the game, just saw their General Manager, Stephane D’Astous, resign.

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malokevi3926d ago

Before hearing all of this noise as of late, I already though that the E3 demo for this game looked bland and terrible.

Now, the news seems to be confirming my suspicions.

Oh well, I never played the originals, so I have no expectations. Doesn't look like I will bother with this game, especially with so many great titles on the way.

dedicatedtogamers3926d ago

After playing Dishonored last year, I'm holding Thief (and similar large-level exploration choose-your-own-path games) up to that standard. Dishonored is part of why I was so bummed by Bioshock Infinite's linearity.

toxic-inferno3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

Dishonored is a peculiar story for me. I own it, and absolutely love it (would certainly rate it 9/10), but for some reason, still haven't finished it. I don't know why - something about it just doesn't draw me in.

I'll get round to finishing it one of these days... just not sure when.

[EDIT: Sorry, forgot the whole point of my comment!]

I just can't help think that Thief might go the same way...

cyguration3926d ago

@toxic-inferno

I have some games like that as as well, I think they call it Blockbuster Burnout or AAA fatigue or something like that.

I think the biggest problem is the over-saturation of the experience -- we're kinda of bombarded with a lot of these games that beg for our time and yet despite their strong initial appeal, they're not really setup for deep commitments.

I find myself starting a lot of AAA titles and then just not finishing them or losing interest quickly, even if the game isn't bad.

dedicatedtogamers3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

@ toxic

Dishonored is at its best when you're killing and using stealth to kill more people. I admit, I played the game stealthy at first and I enjoyed it, but on my second playthrough I tried to be a skilled killer and that's what made me fall in love with the game. Here are just two links that show how crazy you can be in combat if you try:

http://kotaku.com/5962581/t...
http://kotaku.com/5951894/t...

Logak3926d ago

Well most people who played Thief before Dishonored would have held Dishonored to that standard. It did not make it to that standard in my opinion.
Thief 1 and 2 were easily the greatest stealth games I have ever played, easily excelling in every area Dishonored did not such as; atmosphere, story, characters, levels and stealth mechanics. I just hope the new Thief will attempt to emulate the originals thief games.

starchild3925d ago

The original Thief games are amazing games. I think the Thief reboot could still be good. I don't think these kinds of troubles mean the game will be bad.

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Abriael3926d ago (Edited 3926d ago )

So we're basically deciding that a game is bad way before its release? Yeah good idea.

Not.

Biased, unprofessional (and grammatically atrocious) article. Not worth the click.

Master-H3926d ago

Well, the gameplay video from E3 looks fun, not as good as Dishonored imo but still good.

Logak3926d ago

And Dishonored is not as good as Thief 2 lol

Tevolofox3926d ago

your actually fully retarded you have obviously never played dishonored its amazing better than all those old s**t games

Murad3925d ago

@Tevolofox
You're obviously just a douche.

despair3926d ago

The fuck am I seeing a site telling you to cancel your preorders and write off a game because of one unconfirmed and anonymous report from polygon, that they have trouble with the game. Wow these people should be shut down, this kind of irresponsible and reckless reporting can hurt people's real livelihood all for hits.

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Lboogieskells3926d ago

I must admit I like some things about Polygon's website. But there is something very unethical about some of their articals.At times it seems the writers are on a personal vendetta.

cyguration3926d ago

WRONG!

It's irresponsible to promote, advertise or influence people to pre-order a game based on hype, a few game trailers and a smoke & mirrors E3 presentation.

Are you so quick to forget Aliens: Colonial Marines?

I'm glad a site has balls to tell people NOT to fall for the hype.

Don't take on the demeanor of a reputation manager just because a game you're looking forward to gets called out on its hype.

despair3926d ago

Ooh...quote the one game out of thousands as reason to justify this bullshit piece. They showed the game twice, twice playable and twice liked by some and dislikes by others. All games get this, why didn't you complain about the bioshock infinite gameplay reveal that never happens in the game, it was technically misleading, but the main elements remained, as did some of the scenes even if they were broken up.

Many games get hype and use scripted events and smoke and mirrors in their showings to promote the games. Sometimes it turns out like those and sometimes they disappoint so why not give them the same benefit here as we did infinite, that turned out great.

cyguration3926d ago

Dude, it has nothing to do with "giving them a chance" it has everything to do with pre-order hype being irresponsible in the first place.

I don't think any pre-order hype is good because it's rare games turn out good and most times it's a gamble on the end of the consumer to pre-order without being able to play-test the game first (sort of like what Steam has opted to do with the early access where pre-order literally lets you play the game while its being developed and offer feedback to the devs).

If pre-orders worked the way Steam's pre-access worked then it would be a different thing, but in the case of AAA titles there is no pre-access unless it's a multiplayer beta and rarely ever do you get to send worthwhile feedback to the devs other than bugs and glitches.

It's a broken system and it's not journalism at all to feed people hype for pre-orders. This piece at least does the responsible thing of warning people first, something NONE of the big websites do for pre-ordering an AAA game.

despair3925d ago

Except this game didn't get this preorder hype you are talking about, it was just a new game with 2 showings, why not complain about GTA V or COD or any number of games that you can preorder now and on occasion millions will preorder before launch.

Preordering is guaranteeing your copy and making sure you get it at launch, that's all, its not a broken system because its consumer choice and we should not be emphatically told to preorder or not preorder.

Not to mention the preorder deals and bonuses they offer now, some good, some unfair and some bad but its all incentives and coaxing for you to get the game. I preorder a number of games, right now I have 3 PS4s, 1 Xbox One, Xillia CE, FFX/X-2, KH 1.5 HD, GTA V, Watch Dogs, KZ Shadow Fall, Beyond Two Souls and Dragon's Crown all preordered and I will not regret any of them or consider myself a fool or idiot for doing so.

This piece does not warn people, it does the same thing you yourself are against, it overhypes a position or game unreasonably in the expectations of getting attention. They are saying to not get the game based on very very flimsy evidence and speculation and that is the irresponsible bit. As far as I'm concerned they are no better than Gearbox with Aliens: Colonial Marines in terms of giving misleading information.

Oh and pre-ordering from Amazon like I did will cost you nothing until release and gives you a lot of time to change your mind before launch.

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sdozzo3926d ago

Looks like dishonored. Not good or bad. Let's wait and see.

Logak3926d ago

More like Thief looks like Dishonored :)

SITH3925d ago

That is 100% what I said when I saw the demo months ago. I saw dishonored in the gameplay.

Logak3924d ago

Goddaamit, that wasn't what I mean't to say... I was mean't to say Dishonored looks like Thief, whoops.

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Where Have All The Stealth Games Gone?

Stealth games as a genre starting picking up pace in the late 90s and early 2000s, but today the genre seems to be fading away. Games where the primary focus is avoiding direct conflict can be a tense and thrilling experience, so where do we need to go to find it?

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Relientk771734d ago

A Plague Tale: Innocence just came out a couple months ago and it's fantasic.

robtion1733d ago

Great game, loved it.

Alien isolation was another great stealth game this gen.

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nitus101732d ago

Actually "A Plague Tale" is on my to-do list but currently, I am playing Horizon Zero Dawn on the hardest difficulty. Yes, you can fight humans and weak robots using your spear (still risky though) but it is so much more satisfying setting traps and/or choosing the appropriate bow and ammunition (shadow weapons are the best but at the highest difficulty they are very expensive).

BTW. Setting up for double and triple arrow shots does help but on the hardest difficulty, you also get quite a lot of roving bandits and in certain areas "sunbirds" (gint hawks are annoying but theses are deadly).

SegaGamer1734d ago

Play the Styx games, I thought they were great stealth games.

robtion1733d ago

Tenchu really needs to make a comeback. It could be amazing with current technology.

nitus101732d ago (Edited 1732d ago )

IMHO the only way to play Styx is on the hardest setting. Sure you almost get "one-hit killed" if you are discovered especially if there are two or more protagonists, so you are basically forced to use your sneak and assassination skills. In the rare instances, you have to fight it is usually one on one combat which if you have been paying attention in the first 20 minutes of the game is not that difficult.

Bourne4141733d ago

Would love a new splinter cell with ironside again. Back it its roots. And SegaGamer said styx. It's the closest thing to old school splinter cell.

NecrumOddBoy1733d ago

Just not the "Oh you just knocked a cup over. Mission Failed!" level of stealth that Pandora Tomorrow had. The new ones' Batman-style of stealth felt to action. I really would love a reboot of the original.

Also agree A Plague's Tale is great. Hitman also is a good series and Days Gone has a bunch of fun stealth in it.

robtion1733d ago

Also the dishonored games one of my favourite series ever.

DaDrunkenJester1733d ago

I also hate the streamlined stealth in games now where simply crouching in tall grass hides you from an enemy that is two feet from you. The true stealth genre needs to come back and I'd love to see Splinter Cell make its comeback as well as a proper Thief game.

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Metal Gear Solid: The Only Stealth Series

Stealth is a genre that needs some more love. Here is a guided rant about issues that it's had so far and why Metal Gear Solid is the only game that really accomplishes what it sets out to.

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Stevefantisy2988d ago

I really liked Tenchu back in the day.

Kyosuke_Sanada2988d ago

Underrated series which I still play to this day (currently finishing the second installment.)

It's a shame we haven't had a console release since Tenchu 4 for the Wii which was amazing stealth wise but fell short in actual combat and I was bothered that the open-world aspect was removed.

AdamHarris2988d ago

98 was a heavy year for stealth. Tenchu, the original Thief, and MGS all came out. Still, Metal Gear is the only one I consider to be truly about stealth.

Benchm4rk2988d ago

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is the best stealth game. I loved MGS but would hardly even consider it a stealth game.

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Free Games in December 2015 - Which Platform is Best? | COG

COG writes: Every month, two armies stand in a field and stare at each other in an intimidating manner. A battle royale ensues. Sony and Microsoft stand at arm's length from each other, slapping each other with white gloves in a distinguished fashion. Actually, they just give away free games. Which lineup rules the roost in December 2015? Let's turn to the tale of the tape.

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Cdn_Seahawks_Fan3062d ago

I am thinking EVERYONE wins. Whether the games are great or mediocre, they are downloadable with your console online service of choice and give you some value, and even more gameplay time. YAY to games.

MzDino3062d ago

As long as there's free games, I'm happy.

retrogamer093062d ago

Both of the lineups are crap, although I'm enjoying Van Helsing so far.

MikleDemi3062d ago

Van Helsing and Sacred are better than anything the PS4 is getting.
Lol Sony is giving us an episode of a game (something that Telltale routinley gives out for free), and a game that has been part of a $3 bundle on the PC.

Having said that, I expected more from both as a Christmas present.
Still, Gold takes it hands down seeing as how all Gold games can now be played on the XBONE.

Ginpachi-sama3062d ago

Lol freedom wars alone is better than everything xbox one is offering this month

MikleDemi3061d ago (Edited 3061d ago )

I agree with you, BUT I can't play Freedom Wars on my PS4 now can I? I have played the heck out of it on my Vita and love having a digital copy now...

Having said this, the Xbox One got MUCH more and better games than the PS4. PS4 owners petty much got kicked in the balls this time around.

medman3061d ago (Edited 3061d ago )

@mikledemi
LOL at the guy trying to justify to himself why his decision to buy an xbox one was worth it. If you like the xbox, fine....enjoy. But don't come here trying to make it sound like the xbox is "winning" something. You sound silly.

MikleDemi3060d ago

I have all 3 consoles and a PC. I'm a gamer and not a fanboy like most people here seem to be.
Just calling things as I see them.

medman3059d ago

Stop your nonsense son. Not even your mama believes you.