Kotaku - I Finally Got My Hands On The Xbox One. Hmm.

Kotaku - Last Thursday night at the 2013 Xbox Comic-Con Media Showcase, I got my first hands-on time with the Xbox One. I was pleased — well, mostly pleased.

Having manned home base during both E3 and Microsoft's initial Xbox One reveal, for the past few months, the extent of my experience with the console has been second hand. I read the accounts of my colleagues. I looked at pictures. I watched gameplay videos. I was a well-informed spectator.

[Wizziokid]

About Killer Instinct
"but nothing that couldn't run on an Xbox 360 without trimming away much in the way of gameplay and visuals."

That's disappointing.

"For now it just doesn't feel like a next-gen system to me."

[Mr_Nuts]

I'm going to trust him on this.....he has a beard

Those people never lie :)

[xTHEFIZZx]

true story! :D

[TechnicianTed]

Ming the Merciless had a beard, and I wouldn't trust him. I'd sleep with his daughter though, because she was fit.

[darthv72]

Isnt this generally the norm? I mean the first batch of titles you see essentially started development on the former system and then gets shifted to the newer as it progresses.

I can recall many saying the first few 360/ps3 games looked like they were xbox/ps2 games but in hd. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

It should come as no surprise that the first batch of X1 games will be supped up 360 games. Its the 2nd wave of x1 games that will tell a different story as those will have been built for the x1 from the ground up.

I am reminded that within a consoles life cycle the quality of the games increases to the point of looking at a game near its end and comparing it to a game at its launch it is a noticeable difference. And yet its the same hardware from beginning to end.

Genesis, snes, ps1, ps2...all had better looking games as the consoles got older. It just comes down to the developers and fully understanding how everything should work to get the most out of the platform.

Im not worried in the least for the quality of next gen ps4 and x1 games. hell...even the wii-u will get better looking games as it goes.

[malokevi]

Its a valid opinion. Of course, he only got a taste, but I think maybe he's expecting too much. Its this statement that irks me:

"It's very frantic and pretty, but nothing that couldn't run on an Xbox 360 without trimming away much in the way of gameplay and visuals. "

I don't think that its realistic to expect major advancements, or even any advancements whatsoever, in terms of gameplay during the launch window. We have the same developers working with basically the same tools on the same types of games... can you really expect all new gameplay experiences? Especially considering this is a small sample of offline content?

Its prettier. Better visuals and bigger worlds are all I am expecting for the time being.

That being said, its always nice to read a fresh perspective, and I think, given the same experience, I would have come away with basically the same impression.

[JokesOnYou]

Was anybody else confused?

Its not so bad, you got keep things in perspective:

"I'm quite impressed with Ryse: Son of Rome,despite the negative press the game's been garnering lately. Sure, the portion of the game we've seen and I've now played focuses heavily on pressing the face buttons of the new Xbox One controller in time, the battles I fought were rather satisfying, in a completely brutal sort of way."

"The graphics are pretty intense, and there's a ton of stuff going on throughout the demo — little events and interactions easy to miss in the heat of battle. I get the feeling the demo I played barely scratched the surface of Crytek's Xbox One title."

"What I am not impressed by is the Xbox One. The design is great (I love rectangles), the controller is a near-perfect evolution of the Xbox 360 pad and I'm sure we'll eventually see some of its power and cloud computing enhancements come into play."

"I don't expect I'll feel the difference between the two systems until I get up to my virtual elbows in Xbox One's guts later this year. I'm beginning to understand why our first introduction to the Xbox One focused on cable TV and streaming video and second-screen tech — it's the experience between and beyond the games that will define this console, and until I have a chance to sit down with that bit, I'm standing by my "hmmm.""

-OK so he was impressed but not impressed enough???? What does he want it to do, first Kotaku was one of the leaders of the "reveal didn't show any games" now he's like well the games are good (mostly) but I'll wait to see the other TV stuff and features because thats what will seperate X1 from last gen.

[abzdine]

what is crazy is that they've started with TV stuff at the reveal and when people got angry about no game shown they starting pretending the X1 is all about the games at E3.
Now the only way for them to lure people was to show their console as a gaming console at first place, but they already killed it for me cause i know the TV crap isn't banned for good.
Don't get me wrong, Xbox One will have good games like every console that hit the market, the question is how long is it gonna stand against the PS4 which is the hottest thing to own at the moment..

[Game4life]

I have a beard :)

[ThanatosDMC]

@jokes

He's basically saying it's not next gen enough for him and he feels a lot of the features are something the 360 could do all ready.

Screw TV features. We got Netflix and Vudu and Amazon and Redbox and ESPN for that...

[Boody-Bandit]

"I'm going to trust him on this.....he has a beard

Those people never lie :)"

This must be why I've had a beard since I could grow one. :)

OT
I have been gaming a really long time. I can't remember a generation where I was blown away out of the gate so I'm not surprised in the least that the author of this title wasn't as well. Either or I am excited for the next generation of gaming to get underway. I just got to finish up my current library of titles before it starts.

[Cmk0121]

honestly his write up is just confusing. saying ryse is fun to play and graphically amazing only to follow up saying killer instinct doesnt look all the great. saying he liked the games but didnt like one of them, saying wasnt impressed by console but loved the design, and controller. The leap from non hd to HD is bigger than what ps3/360 to these new consoles is hands down. particle effects, weather and world simulation are what to expect. its going from hd to PC type realism this gen. I just think hes lost and i dont say that in defense of the xbox one but both xbox one and ps4. if you have expectations to have a leap of non hd to hd type upgrade on this gen you have another thing coming. its going to be the immersive effects, the multitasking, the seamless worlds with no load times, instant on, quicker processing is whats taking place not a IMMENSE graphical leap IMO

[dcj0524]

I feel like the jump from ps1-ps2 was bigger. And the snes to ps1 Massive. Ps2-ps3 was a leap but not a gigantic this is absoloutley impossible on the last system leap. Some next-gen titles are impossible on current gen without severly reducing content and gameplay ( BF4, The division, Destiny, Kill zone SF, Elder Scrolls Online, Planetside 2) I feel a bigger gameplay leap. And this is only year one. Feels like a bigger jump overall.And launch titles never ever show the graphical capabilities a console has.

[SegaSaturn669]

I love ps4, but with kinect 2 being one of the key features on the 360, I'd rather hear a review of an AAA game using that peripheral successfully.

In my mind it just feels like an xbox 360 with redesigned dashboard and mandatory kinect.

[ThanatosDMC]

No, Planetside 2 is not something current consoles can handle. That awesome clusterf*ck of a game is too crazy.

Elders Scrolls Online... sucks. Nuff said. Could be played on the 360. Graphics are severely lacking. Cant even hold a candle to GW2, Rift, Tera, Neverwinter etc. They seemed to have sacrifice graphical fidelity for something and I still cant figure out what it is, especially when compared to recent MMOs.

I wish the Division is more survival than just shoot em-up. I hope it's comparable to DayZ in a sense or I hope it's better and more innovative than DayZ.

[MariaHelFutura]

Ryse was a 360 game, Dead Rising 3 was a 360 game, it wouldn't surprise me if KI was a 360 game. Probably the reason the 360 has no good exclusive games on the horizon.

[Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II]

MariaHelFutura + 8h ago | Well said
Ryse was a 360 game, Dead Rising 3 was a 360 game, it wouldn't surprise me if KI was a 360 game. Probably the reason the 360 has no good exclusive games on the horizon.

lol so true.. but people like jokesonhim will think they are the second coming anyway rofl

[MWong]

That honestly does make a lot of sense. I mean I am honestly really impressed with Project Spark and hopeful for TitanFall so far.

[thetruthx1]

Just because a game starts out as a 360 game doesn't mean it can't be revamped and fine tuned into a quality xbox one game.

There's no way Ryse, Dead Rising 3 and these other games can be done on the 360 and still have the next gen look and feel.

I'm not trusting these journalists. I trust my eyes

[ThanatosDMC]

Ryse had terrible texture detail and that was running on a high powered PC. Now compare that to God of War 3 which was running on PS3. GoW3 took a *hit on Ryse and it's years old.

[No Way]

@ThanatosDMC -
Question: Why you comparing a complete game to an incomplete one?

[Insomnia_84]

Have you all noticed how every time someone goes "deep" into detail with anything Xbox One related, be it MS/Devs/Press, always something negative arises? It is only when Microsoft speaks about it that it looks "good" but once people starts asking about the things MS don't talk about or try to avoid talking about, always something bad comes out of it. I think this is way they don't have someone speaking about their console the way Mark Cerny does with the PS4. You have seen videos of people with hands-on the PS4 with the actual system sent by Sony but not a single one with the Xbox One.

They keep saying the "XB1 can do this, can do that" but how much of that have we seen? How much have the shown? Like the sharing video gameplay which they only mentioned not at their XB1 reveal, not at e3, only to the press but have shown NOTHING about, like something implemented at the last minute to counter the PS4 feature which was built with that in mind. Ryse having scripted moments and the final product not being like what the showed at e3, the kinect ui being scripted at e3 and nothing happening in real time (shown behind closed doors and being NOTHING like what they shiwed on stage with lag in response), the console releasing just like they revealed it with the restrictions but needs an update to take the DRM and restrictions away (a detail not said in their official 180 backpedaling announcement but only talked about later when asked about the details of it)...
All this only puts more question marks in my head and doubts about Microsoft next gen console and it only leads me to belive that once the system gets in the market, bad news will happen.

[Fireseed]

You may wanna check any single person in the fighting game community on the topic of KI and you're theory is INCREDIBLY wrong.

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

You mean this fighting game community?
http://n4g.com/news/1310676...

[jessupj]

Excellent post.

You're exactly right. Sony have been very open with the PS4 while MS seem to be the opposite. Why they do make a statement their never seems to be any proof and when questioned get asked they never seem to be answered properly.

From everything we've seen and read, it seemed MS is rushing their console again. It's highly likely they were planning to launch next year instead and Sony have abolutely blind sided them.

I'm incredibly excited for the launch of both consoles and getting all my questions answers once and for all.

[Antwan3k]

@insomnia_84

actually I think it's quite opposite..

we've seem live demo of the Xbox One dashboard UI, game DVR editing/sharing/streaming, asynchronous matchmaking, smartglass integration, voice commands/gestures, cloud processing, and more..

on the other hand, we've seen no live demo of the PS4 UI (only screenshots) so we have no idea how fast, fluid, or intuitive it is.. We haven't seen a live demo of how the share button is going to truly work (just a snippet in a pre-edited video with Will and Sarah).. Will the PS4 have asynchronous matchmaking like the Xbox One? (where I can set up an online game via smartglass while continuing to play the game I'm currently playing or queue up a online game but rather than wait in the game lobby for the game to start, I can play another game, watch a movie, watch tv, or do anything else until the game alerts me that my online game session is ready) we have no idea because Sony hasn't show much at all about the new PSN that we now have to PAY for.. What about party chat?.. Sony has mentioned crossgame voice chat but haven't mentioned party chat.. I'm assuming there is going to be party chat, but it's weird that they haven't outright SAID it yet.. I'm sure the question has been asked but no confirmation from Sony?.. They scream to the high heavens about how you can buy/sell used games but don't say anything about a must-have feature like party chat?.. That should raise some eyebrows.. what about this "PlayStation app" and it's second screen functionality?.. Again, no live demonstration and no real information other than "trust us, it's coming".. What about cloud processing?.. Will Sony only be using Gaikai for PS3 game streaming or will it be used for dedicated servers and CPU cloud processing like the Xbox One's Azure cloud?
. If so, when?.. Gaikai isn't even coming online for the PS4 until "sometime in 2014" but the XB1's cloud is ready to go as we speak.. And the list goes on and on..

how can anyone possibly say that Sony is being more open about the PS4 than Microsoft is about the Xbox One when all we know about the PS4 is it has better graphics than the PS3, you have to pay for online play now, has no DRM, plays games offline, and has the almighty GDDR5?.. What about the UI, PSN+ features/details, PS Home, Party Chat, and a number of other factors that all you "gamers" should be worried about instead?

[ThanatosDMC]

It's in the power of the cloud... in fairy/unicorn land.

[ThanatosDMC]

^In Sony We Trust

[thetruthx1]

Insomnia_84 Ever heard of Comic con?

[dark-hollow]

The thing is people expect a ps2/og Xbox to ps3/360 jump immediately! That won't happen in the first wave of games. The main thing we will notice at the first generation of games is the much improved IQ which is really needed. We can't really tell how great FFXV, killzone SF etc from just looking at gameplay videos just like we could barely tell a difference between HD twins games and PC games just from looking at shitty compressed YouTube videos.

Just look at crysis 3 videos then try playing it yourself with a maxed out PC. The difference is HUGE as you can notice all Tue details comes to life on your HDTV.

Look at gears of war 1 and compare it to the last of us. The difference is jaw dropping! We need to wait couple years before we see how truly capable the next generation consoles are.

[andrewsqual]

Shocking when the guys at Xbot Central haven't even been allowed to touch the console. Just shows the real damage that Microsoft has done to their once proud (and deluded) fan base.

[Krosis]

....yeah you sound totally rational.

[lgn15]

WOW you could say that about any game, ps4 OR one dude. Knack? (nothing innovative here)
Killzone? (another fps)
Infamous? (same infamous better graphics)
Driveclub? (im not even gunna get into this, another racer. same thing for generations just different graphics)

[GamerGuy153]

Innovation in graphics is always a given, and is already visible on both systems, with Killzone and Forza. It's the innovations in gameplay that will truly shine next generation. I think the huge alwayss changing online worlds like Destiny, and the expansion of the online space like Planetside 2 and even BF4 64 players will be big players. But even in the single player experiences, the extra power of the systems will really be revealed in the next few years with vast improvements in the number of characters on screen, the size and destructibility of the environments, and the improvements in artificial intelligence.

[Ju]

BS.

Killzone SF had hands on (E3) and blows you away
inFamous had hands on (E3) and blows you away
Drive Club had hands on - and I think it looks awesome

And then we saw Watchdogs, AC:BF on the console.

And than we had on top of that indies and F2P like Warframe and Blacklight Retribution.

Nobody would claim those were running on PS3 (or 360).

Compared to 2 (two!) titles actually running on XBone HW with hands on. Forza wasn't played live un-moderated.

I mean are you telling me we are on even ground here?

[Gildarts]

Same goes for PS4. It won't feel like nextgen till we get games who truly utilize the power.

[karl]

killzone is the only title that looks nextgen for now..

driveclub wasnt that impressive looking to me

at least gameplay

if the game reaches the graphics that we saw during the ps4 reveal i will be impressed

[RedHawkX]

sounds about right get the ps4 first then wait to get the xbox one later when its price drop seems like a smarter choice. that new ps4 controller the ds4 with the touch pad, enhanced rumble and improved controls and size with the power of the ps4 feels really next gen compared to the xbox one.

[BallsEye]

While gameplay in Ryse leaves a lot to wish for from what we saw, the graphics are definately next gen. How can anyone deny it?

[CoryHG]

Forza feels next gen. Killer Instinct just looks like Street Fighter 4

[strifeblade]

you know if you put killer instinct and streetfighter next to eachother, the graphics of killer instinct is very impressive- the lighting the detail and the effects and environment look very impressive compared to streetfighter.

google both and you would be surprised- i used to be a skeptic as well. killer instinct is after alll 1080p 60 fps.

[CoryHG]

It runs and looks well, i played at E3. But it's not "spectacular"

[die_fiend]

He expected next gameplay from Crytek?! *splutters*

[deputyspade]

Big surprise! Microsoft was running the games on Nvidia GTX cards at E3 and now when people play them on their true xbone hardware they are very underwhelmed. Not surprising at all.

[Retroman]

ok, can we start calling them x1 or the one and 4 now??

we all know it is xbox 1 and ps4 like we did with 360 an ps3 STARTING NEW GEN CONSOLE. start calling them x1 and 4

[CalvinKlein]

well its a fighting game so yeah, make it look worse and it will be able to run on 360. Honestly what do these people expect. People confuse power with innovation. More power doesnt mean that suddenly tons of new games will be arriving that couldnt be done in the past. Fighting games now are not that much different then they were back in the day, except visuals. FPS havent changed much, no type of games have changed much over gens.

All that happens is an improvement and more room to innovate if they have an idea of how to do that. less limitations doesnt mean that suddenly a fighting game will be open world and be controlled by your brain waves or some shit.

anyone who doesnt think we will be seeing a major difference in thse games is dumb, blind, a noob or maybe all of these things. just wait till you actually play these games, you will understand.

just like this gen when people claimed halo 3 looked like halo 2. I laughed because even upscaled halo 2 looked like shit compared to halo 3.

[xReDeMpTiOnx]

Hmm well we will just have to see what Microsoft can do once it actually launches

[Thomper]

When you see a beard like that, I just think "big gay bear"

Oh, and Killer Instinct looks fracking awesome!

[claudionmc]

poor xbox fanboy... come on! wake up!

[NoobJobz]

Because he thinks a game looks good? Hmm. I've seen many fanboyish comments on this site. That didn't seem to be one of them.

If anything, it was discrimination against guys with beards.

[strifeblade]

what is wrong with that killer instinct looks great as a fighting game and the graphics are a step up from current gen. Dont know what people are complaining about- i mean what do you want an OPEN WORLD FIGHTING GAME? no it is a one on one fighter- i mean besides prettier graphics what else can they do lol

[Thomper]

Exactly... Fighters are fighters, don't mess with the formula, or it isn't a fighter.

KI is looking and sounding fantastic.

[Thomper]

So being a "big gay bear" is a negative?? Not at all. If you interpreted it that way, then I suggest it is your problem.

As for KI.... Best looking fighter ever, bar none. And I have played a lot of them.

[Einhert]

I'm not really buying into the whole advancement of graphics thing alone with these new consoles.

I really want to see gameplay advance as well, I would love to see the scope and interactivity of games increase to a new level.

ryse, & killer instinct don't seem to be doing anything particularly new in the gameplay department in terms of scope or interactivity. Does not by any means make them bad games, just I'm hoping for something more.

[colonel179]

I believe that the focus in this generation will be seamless multiplayer (like they have shown with The Crew) and Open World. However, just like Ryse, games that are linear such as Uncharted, God of War, etc. will have amazing graphics, as well as cinematic experience.

It's too early though to see any changes in gameplay. Maybe starting 1 or 2 years after the consoles are out, that there will be a game that everybody will be amazed and everything else will copy it.

[claudionmc]

you CANNOT compare uncharted with ryse... 10 secs of gameplay in uncharted are more fun that 2 minutes pressing the same button in ryse

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

How do you advance gameplay without a new way to interact with the game? This is what Kinect offers, I'm no fan of Kinect when it comes to it replacing a controller but I can see the potential in the device. Gamers always cry they want new this and that but then when someone trys to innovate they get shit on by the very same gamers...

[karl]

i agree.. yet kinect is not the device we were hoping for..

as long as we hold a controllers gameplay wont change...

a camera isnt the answer though.. with no feedback or any way to feel conected to the game..

its nothing but a barrier between u and the games... the controller at least can be felt in your hands

[Einhert]

Kinect is not a viable alternative

I meant maybe using a different system as opposed to the arkham/ass creed method of one button presses.

maybe have different buttons for different swings and have a directional parry system?

Mix it up.

[Maddens Raiders]

"I'm beginning to understand why our first introduction to the Xbox One focused on cable TV and streaming video and second-screen tech — it's the experience between and beyond the games that will define this console, and until I have a chance to sit down with that bit, I'm standing by my "hmmm."

..."it's the experience between and beyond the games that will define this console"...

This is news to me. Call me old fashioned, but I just need and want a gaming console that is made for the experience of gaming. I can see that this generation is going to go down between the gaming console and the gaming console disguised in DVR clothing. My popcorn is ready.

[Consoldtobots]

not to mention that the irony is so thick it's delicious. We just went through an entire generation of microsoft fanboys calling the PS3 a "bluray player". Now they have a bluray player on steroids.

[Urusernamesucks]

Oh the irony irony is thick. With the entire generation of sony fanboys Criticizing 360 users of paying to play online. Now look at all of us. Happy and paying.

[Bowzabub]

It is tasty huh?

[Thegamer41]

"Sony fanboys" criticized 360 users for paying for their subscriptions twice (netflix etc).
Also online is still free on PS4 on some games so its not needed to access virtually everything like on Xbox.

[clouds5]

I see it the same way as the author. We will get an xbox360/ps3 with updated graphics and new controllers (in case of PS badly needed). We will play 1st person and 3rd person shooters, some racing games and gow beat em ups with graphics that look about the same as recent PC optimized titles (The Witcher 2 or Crysis 3 pc).
Imho there is nothing wrong with that but if you want something new and interesting gameplay wise --> WiiU.

[TheFallenAngel]

What's wrong with the ps3 controller? I love the controller and I been loving it ever since it came out for the ps1

[RavageX]

Nothing is or ever has been wrong with the ps3 controller other than it lacked rumble for a short while.

The ONLY controller I could honestly ever complain about would be the original NES controller cause those sharp corners hurt after a while and I think it was the only controller to give me blisters.

[JohnCartenper]

It's terrible compared to the xbox 360's

[boing1]

^^ We have a PS4 dev kit and new dualshock surpassed Xbox controller by a mile in my eyes. Sony did an awesome job.

[RavageX]

Well John that is 100% your opinion.

[VforVideogames]

and mine too

[shadyiswin]

controller argument will always be opinon based,but most opinions are in favor of the xbox,hence why sony is making there controller bigger with wider spacing and grips,its basically if the 360 controller had sex with a dual shock,problem is i dont like the analog placement,most dont,the analog sticks also seemed to flimsy but i heard they fixed that,he touch bad was a horrible and gimmicky idea,it will go unused by everyone but first party studios,light bar and mic,i think the controller is trying to do too much,xbox one controller is slim and sleek adding the extra rumble packs and removing the battery slot and d-pad,anyone who loves the xbox 360 controllerr will natrually love the xbox one's same might can be said about the dual shock 4,i am curious to see how japan likes the bigger controller.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Good little read with some honest opinion. I think many of us are going to feel slightly underwhelmed by what we see in next gen for the first round of games. PS2/Xbox jump to xbox360/PS3 was huge from a graphical standpoint. Both the PS3 and 360 have delivered visuals that have gone way beyond what anyone thought they could over their life time. So visually they are still giving us impressive games and next gen games while visually looking great...its just not the huge leap. What will impress all of us is going to be what the systems can do beyond just graphics.

It is a bit ironic that the author talks about being wow'd by Ryse but then uses Killer Instinct as the game that makes him go "Hmmm" in terms of visuals. I think Ryse is a good example of where we are going in next gen.

[Campy da Camper]

Hmmm the Division and Infamous Second Son looks waaaay better than anything out on current gen consoles IMO.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Infamous looks great dont get me wrong.. and the The Division also looks great...but just looking at The Divsion and comparing it to Ghost Recon Future Soldier ...they don't really "look" on the surface all that different. What makes The Division really shine is all the little things...shutting the car door when you crawl past it, bullet holes punching through car windows, Huge open world you can enter the all buildings, etc...

Visually they look good but what they games can do "under the hood" is what is really going to impress more than the visuals imo.

[loulou]

dlacy yes the jump was significant from ps2/xbox to this gen. but, we had to wait until gears of war hit before we finally saw it.

NO LAUNCH title on either console this gen showed the difference.

a bit like the ps1/ps2 jump. it wasn't until gta £ hit that we saw something finally that wasn't possible on the ps1

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

@Dlacy13g
You sure??

http://youtu.be/eYYU9o9wpGA...

Nah the division look a lot better and also it's an mmo. Technically it's impressive to see at the beginning of a generation.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

re read ur comment u basically said what I said lol.

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

I think once the devs have got to grips with the hardware and what it opens up in terms of graphics and gameplay, then we will see a greater definition between the gens.
Trust me on this, I got a beard lol

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Well all i can say that's his Opinion several other folks have said different hings that are very positive.

This is battlefield 4 being played on the xbox one console at pax australis. Foward to the 18;15 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[BattleTorn]

Thx

[PFFT]

14 fanboy sack riders disagree.

[akaFullMetal]

Hmmmmmmm......

[Campy da Camper]

People need to remember that the ps4 games that have been shown were created on specs the devs thought they would have in the final build. The RAM is doubled what they expected. I have high hopes for 2014 ps4 1st party exclusives.

[Funantic1]

Neither the X1 or PS4 had games that looked next gen. But both had games that looked fun.

[thrust]

Any game would run on the 360 if you trimming on the gfx or gameplay, that's a given.

Could make god of war run on a dreamcast if you trim on gfx and gameplay.

What I strange thing to say....

[jdaboss]

Its gonna be a couple of years before any of these games start to feel TRULY Next Gen.. Most of the games they're demoing have 360/PS3 versions as well.

[maniac76]

Xbox hmmmmmmmm ps4 Mmmmmmm lmao

[akaFullMetal]

haha good one! Bubble man.

[Kidmyst]

Exclusives show over time, initial launch games look better but the games get even better when the devs have had more time. Like how COD 2 looked on the 360, looks good now but not as good as other games.

[Funky Town_TX]

From the article:

Graphics aren't everything, of course. It's just that I'm used to seeing a more dramatic step up from one generation to the next. When the original Xbox gave way to the Xbox 360, there was no mistaking one system's games for the other's. Even the worst Xbox 360 launch titles were distinctively Xbox 360 games, plastic-looking textures and all.

I call BS. When the 360 launched averyone said that the launch games looked last gen. Wait on the PS3.

[YodaCracker]

To be fair, we were jumping from SD to HD in the last console transition, so there were much more noticeable differences.

[RevXM]

Now we are moving up (IMO) a good notch too though. From 720p to 1080p.
I think the previous gen has the biggest jump post the birth of 3D graphics yet, right? But this coming gen is looking allright.

It is good to see real launch window games giving us more than just shinier graphics, but that was true for PS3 and 360 as well.
RFOM and Motorstorm anyone? Car physics, car damage and distinctive realistically behaving surfaces (kind of arcady but even so) made Motorstorm so fresh, just unpredictable, brutal and a shit ton of fun.

[Saleem101]

Yea the games didn't look that great on xbox one....

[JeffGUNZ]

Did you not see Quantam Break? Dude, if you haven't, check the demo on youtube, it's sick.

[Lovable]

Youbute quality sucks. It doesn't and will not give any game justice with the quality.

[lgn15]

Just when I thought we were breaking out of the circle jerk finally, another bullshit article comes along.

WOW shocker, new games are nothing but old games with better graphics on the One!!!

Just like ps4!!

Driveclub: another racer!
Killzone: another fps!
Infamous: another open world super power game!
Knack:.......

Well look at this, games generally follow a certain proven formula (action, fighting, racing, ect) I CANT BELIEVE IT!

I THINK IT'S CALLED A GENRE

Thanks for proving that to me! Damn, it's like movies and t.v. and oh wait, EVERY FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT.

In case anyone noticed that's all gamer have been for the last 2 generations. Same games with better graphics/draw distance.

Watchdogs is the only truly new game and even that is arguably just an innovation on the assassins-creed-esque genre.

[bobacdigital]

I think the type of wow factor he was looking for could be comparable to how PC games evolved..

When you went from Wolfenstein -> Doom -> Quake 1-3 .. There were ground breaking changes made to each iteration of the game. Ranging from full 3D enviroments to GL and internet game play ....

Games have really just hit a wall in general ... You are not going to be wowed by anything because the jump from standard def to high def is gone ... that added element of internet play and open gl graphics is gone...

We are at a point now that the difference between this gen and last gen is that you can get 1080p with higher aliasing at more stable framerates... That is why in general the Wii U vs the PS4 and X1 won't really display the same gap we saw in the previous generation...

The only thing driving this generation that will make a difference is exclusives... Hardware is not going to win the war this gen.

[Picnic]

Your view that all games in the last 2 generations (Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, Xbox360, PS3, Wii, WiiU) have been the same , except with better graphics / draw distance doesn't stand up to scrutiny. It just contains enough of an element of truth for people to believe it (after all, the N64 did pioneer some series that the Gamecube provided sequels to).

By your reasoning, it would mean that nothing that the Dreamcast did, or nothing that came after the Dreamcast, was original.

The Dreamcast is regarded as pioneering cel-shading games on a console, most frequently attributed to Jet Set Radio although there were others around the time( and the earlier Fear Effect on PS1 has a claim to a cel-shaded type effect plus there were 16 bit games with a cel-shading reminiscent toon style).
Although earlier consoles supported internet in theory the DC was the first to promote and use it massively.

It could be said that PS2 games like Shadow of the Collosus owe their genesis to the likes of Ocarina of Time but since they have very different gameplay aims would it be fair to dwell on that too much?
And the survival horrors on the console, like Silent Hill and Haunting Ground, were not just copying Resident Evil. It wasn't just a graphical and engine update- it was a sidestep to the right in what survival horror can do, as was Eternal Darkness on the Gamecube.

Looking at family games, I'd never played a game quite like Grabbed by the Ghoulies or Luigi's Mansion. Sure, they were inspired by old haunted house cliches which was a deliberate part of their charm but they were new gameplay ideas.
Super Monkey Ball was more or less a new idea.

And didn't Alan Wake do more than just be influenced by the likes of Silent Hill?

The Unfinished Swan- it seems like some art house movie but I've never played a game quite like it.

New things are happening and they're not always just rearrangements of what has been put out in the past.
It's just that the very popular games (like the unoriginal Dead Space) are.

[SpecialK]

Im not expecting such a big leap this gen. And tbh i doubt i will get any new console for a year. Nothing shouts out amazing yet.

Hopefully it'll step up. Remember cod3 on 360? Looked awful then gears 3, uncharted ect came out and blew us away.

[GamerGuy153]

even look at the difference between uncharted and uncharted 3. Over a generation the leap in graphics is fantastic due to fine tuning and optimizations. If Shadow Fall looks this good now, jsut imagine how great the games will look in 3-4 years.

[qu1ckset]

Ya I remember buying my first 360 when cod3 came out and wasn't very happy with my purchase, the first couple games that impressed me graphically on the 360 from my memory were gear of war 1 and fight night round 3 which both look pretty dated now!

[windblowsagain]

I think that looks alot better then Ghost recon, by a mile.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[kewlkat007]

Confusing..POS writing.."I was impressed, then I wasn't, then I saw the XboxOne..then..I don't like Next-gen..

-End

[bobacdigital]

Another thing to take into consideration is that it is easier to make games within x86 vs power pc and cell ... So at what point are we going to keep saying "Imagine what it will look like in 3 years".. This gen is much different than the prior because the tool sets have been simplified to a format that developers have already been using.

I thought the whole point of x86 was to make stuff easier on the devs so that there is a smaller little learning curve to make quality stuff? Most PC devs are already making games with the ability to get up to ULTRA level graphic sets.. Letting you fine tune what types of eye candy to add like physics, af / aa, and even lighting / shadowing...

It is what it is at some point.. Maybe this gen we are going to just get 1080p as a standard with better frame rates with some more eye candy on the same games we are use to seeing?

[_LarZen_]

Yet another bullshit article from Kotaku. They sure like to make noise and generate hits on their site.

[Ben12]

so what titles on ps4 look so superior that you have decided ps4 is next gen. To me sounds like you got caught up in all this nonsense of people bashing xbox one. if Microsoft would have had no drm restrictions at E3 then none of you would be bitching this much. Microsoft came out with something new and everyone got scared. However I do admit Microsoft did a poor job at explaining there new system. but now its all clear, and everyone still has issues with it. you did not deserve a chance to play xbox one because you already made up your mind with ps4 based on the E3 show. say what you want but you sony fanboys make me sick and im buying both systems.

[gdguide]

To me it's more about:

a) Microsoft's first reveal had little to do with games
b) Microsoft's first reveal regarding used games, indie devs
c) Kinect 2 which is taking resources of an already more media hub centered device and dividing it further.

First impressions are huge and reveal what Microsoft wants to do. They tamed their stances because of so much backlash, but you still see the blueprint of what they want to do. It's far less about gaming and far more about people buying media, streaming, services from Microsoft. Sony shocked me with such a huge focus on gaming. Never saw this reversal coming in a million years.

[Foxgod]

The last impressions are what people remember best tho.

[JohnS1313]

Sounds boring.

[Foxgod]

The start of new gens are never a big step up, all the early titles of the previous gen felt like higher resolution ps2 era games.

In fact, i think the early titles of next gen are much more spectacular, then the early titles of current gen.

[kevnb]

Call of Duty 2, oblivion and resistance fall of man are good examples of why that is wrong.

[kevnb]

From what I have seen, playing on a next gen console is similar to playing on a current PC. People try to downplay what this jump in power brings, but it is definitely a big step up in quality.

[badkolo]

no one should be attacking this, this is well know for every gen, the fiorst batch look better but not by much but you get a game or 2 that show some power, the same will happen with the ps4 so its all cool, not sure why so many agrees and disagrees on everyones post, this is somethig that is common for both consoles

[bingit2u]

So did I! It was amazing!!

[Gamer666]

Many of the most talked about non-exclusive games are essentially current gen titles in a graphical make over.

Watch Dogs, BF4, CoD Ghosts, NFS Rivals, Destiny, etc. Are all going to ship on current gen PS3 and 360 as well. That means from a gameplay and AI perspective they will be very much the same as current gen titles.

Only the titles that won't ship on current gen boxes are truly next gen games.

[SynestheticRoar]

Wait this is Kotaku that we're talking about. They always backed Microsoft, and that guy is a X-box 360 supporter. I'm very concerned first Edge now Kotaku.

[TheKayle1]

forza 5 1080p/60fps great graphics
driveclub 1080/30fps poor graphics with glitsh and flicks (please read the hands-on about it around the web..to have a laugh about this game)

3rd party fps games beat hard sony launch exclusive
titanfall-destiny-bf4>> >> kz

check the KZ Shadow Fall graphics difference between ps4 reaveal and real e3 gameplay

http://youtu.be/fsjru5GSEzY
then check titafall bf4 or Destiny gameplay

third person as Ryze or Quantum Break sets the graphics lvl of the e3...now is time to sony show something ...coz is nice to ear cerny talking about the super uber duper ps4 capability but if the graphics are that one in the game where he is involved (knack) well is better he shut up one time for all

i mean pls

Knack (ps4 exclusive)

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

http://techjeep.com/wp-cont...

Ryse (xb1 exclusive)

http://www.trueachievements...

http://www.gamehdw.com/wp-c...

and no dont come here to tell me the little story "you need time to get the best from the console"

this time dosnt work...

sony SAY to have 50% more capability just on the gpu where u need to add gddr5 advantage and unified pool advantage
ms devs tool r behind sony ps4 one .as every dev is saying

and this time both console have "ala pc architecture" so theres no learning curve to go trough

should be so easly to run games with better textures-more polygons,better enviroments lightings..shadows.effect..res olution and fps..than xb1...but clearly this didnt happen...so something dosnt add up

this is quantum break

http://youtu.be/E087GDdXYl4

"Director Sam Lake took the stage at the Xbox One @ E3 event and introduced new material from Quantum Break, running real time in-engine."

So if the only two dev that will show the power difference will be anughty dog and santa monica...well
will be another x360 ps3 situation where x360 will gain market on ps again

e3 from games prospective was horrible for sony

[RobbyGrob]

The X360 Vs PS3 situation ended up with a tie in the end. If you can call the jaded statistics of countless re-purchases of the X360 due to its terrible reliability the making of a "tie". If the X360 didn't have the RROD problem, less than half as many consoles may realistically have sold, making the PS3 a huge success is comparison.

[TheKayle1]

i think u didnt understand what i wrote

[JohnCartenper]

I don't think consoles replaced by M$ under warranty and RROD swap are counted in the sale figures.

It's Sony who counts shipped units only, not sold.
So maybe the YLOD ps3s artificially inflate the number.

Besides, Sony lost half its install base from PS2 to PS3.
In any other market that'd be considered a MASSIVE failure.

I'm not talking market share, I'm talking actual shipped/sold units.

[Lvl_up_gamer]

I would say if it wasn't for RROD, the 360 would have had a better reputation and MORE people would have bought it over the PS3.

So your weak argument can go both ways.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

You are aware that 50% more power came ftom a comparison of the early durango custom gpu to an off the shelf G-card. If the ps4 is 50 percent more powerful why Sony isn't preaching it everyday.
Ubisoft developer accidentally leaked info on the ps4 saying that they are using Microsoft visual Studio to make games on the platform.

The only specs on the xb1 are the ones released by Super Dae and he stated that those specs were very old.

[reko]

you are aware that you are making this up ... right?

[Dfooster]

Heard all this beore at the beginning of last gen. Just wait for the second wave of games to release

[Bubli]

Can't wait myself for getting hands-on with the next-gen consoles! Holiday season is way too far away right now...

[MikeyDucati1]

Still fueling that console war I see. The same could have been said about the initial titles of 360. Because I remember the Madden on 360 (the one with D.McNabb on cover) looked terrible. Heck, I remember their first line up was lackluster. Way too early to judge.

[JohnCartenper]

Both M$ and Sony cheapened out with the new consoles, and it shows: mediocre graphics.

Why? Both know they got blindly loyal fan bases who'd buy anything.
Some are so deluded they claim xbox 360 and ps3 don't suffer from aliasing problems.

Hell some say console games look the same as the best maxed out pc games.

Too busy badmouthing each other to criticize their beloved companies.

And don't start saying hhheyyy give the devs time.

They have x86 architecture very similar to a PC.
WE WON'T see an exponential growth in visual quality through their life cycles like it was for the PS3.

The graphics for the launch titles is pretty much what we'll get for the next 8 years.

What's worse, the devs might be forced to cut down on FPS (as if it wasn't already pathetic that most games run @30 fps still) and AA in order to show some kind of graphics quality progress through the years.

[t3rrorc3ll]

Yeah but I'm still buying the new consoles. Benefits of having excess income. You are probably right about cutting down on fps but I'll still be happy with games like the last of us. In fact if they just managed that at 1080p I'd be happy simply because it's better story wise than all the shovel crap on the pc and I'm simply not a graphics whore like most pc fans....I used to be though had i7 3770k water cooled. Sli gtx670 triple monitor setup. It's just not as fun as sitting down pushing one button and starting playing whether that is Microsoft or Sony console I feel consoles are where gaming is at

[kingmushroom]

-_-

http://myfbcovers.com/faceb...

[Chrisgamerguy]

The only exclusive launch titles I'm interested in on the xbox one are ryse son of Rome and dead rising 3. Only one exclusive launch title on ps4 looks good to me killzone sf

[jakmckratos]

Well a "hmmm" isn't what it's gonna take to get me to sped all this money on a console.