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Xbox One vs PS4 Reality Check

As Microsoft continues to dig their own grave, the ever lasting ‘console war’ has flared up with people declaring winners right out of the gate. With that, the Daily Reaction crew of Seb and Dan takes a step back and points out that, while MS might be covered in dirt at the moment, they haven’t picked out a headstone just yet.

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doctorstrange3946d ago

Yup, they'll both survive. I know which one I'll choose first, but they'll both survive.

Godmars2903946d ago

Will only appeal to gamers. Internet literate gamers.

cleft53946d ago

That sleek Ouya design, too good. Can't wait to play the latest and greatest Nintendo emulators.

morganfell3946d ago

"...while MS might be covered in dirt at the moment, they haven’t picked out a headstone just yet."

When you die in this business you do not pick out your own headstone. It's picked for you by the crowds watching other people kick dirt on your corpse.

BitbyDeath3946d ago

Is it still a console war when MS are the only ones shooting... at themselves?

Sure Sony occasionally point out a few of the bodies but as far as wars go... :-/

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Speider3946d ago

Yup. With the price disparaties and all that jazz when 360 and PS3 launched, they both did good.

As different releases attract different audiences for both bachines, the "war" will continue to ebb and flow, and both systems will sell. I hope to god that both/all three systems have healthy cycles, so the competition doesn't stop. THAT would be a tragedy.

thehitman3946d ago

Key difference between 360 and ps3 and xb1 and ps4 is... people bought the 360 because it was first of the HD gen and playstation has too much of a following for people not to get it with the largest gaming library. Xb1 however has nothing going for it not specs not price not gaming library or policies. This gen has like 160mil between 360/ps3 I expect the same next gen but ps4 making up like 100mil compared to xb1 60mil. Therer will be competition and I dont think xbox will die off next gen but it wont be nearly as even as this gen.

JodyCones3946d ago

Yup getting both because i like playing all games. But definitley the PS4 first, already preorded it.

rainslacker3946d ago

I think calling the outright doom of any console is just silly. I wouldn't even call the Wii U doomed despite it's current troubles, and it's a released system.

Long haul, Xbox will probably make MS money. It may not achieve everything they hope to achieve however, and that's to take over the living room. In this regard, the X1 may be a failure for MS, even if it's profitable. The Xbox 360 took them pretty far to achieve their overall goal, and they did quite well this gen in that regard by establishing a huge install base. But if that adoption has a negative trend and doesn't see the adoption of the "living room" crowd, it won't be what they want it to be.

Overall, I do think the X1 will be a good gaming machine with a lot to offer, I just don't feel it offers enough for me to go out and buy it day one. Some of the games look good, and I want to play them, but not at the expense of the console, or the addition of some features which actually turn me off of the system.

devwan3946d ago

"Long haul, Xbox will probably make MS money."

Interesting forecast - what makes you think ms' xbox division will turn it around this generation? Since its inception it has always been in the red.

rainslacker3945d ago

I can't say what they have to turn around because I'm not aware of what "always in the red" the Xbox division has seen since it's inception. It's had bad quarters, but overall it's been profitable.

The Xbox division doesn't perform as well as the rest of MS, which is why some analyst say MS should dump it, but if it hadn't been profitable for the past 12 years, we wouldn't be seeing a new console from them. MS first turned a profit on the Xbox in 2008, BTW. Google is your friend.

However, when I say it will be profitable for MS overall, I am speaking of the fact that they have multiple revenue streams available to them through the Xbox. Game licensing fees, peripheral profits, Live, licensing deals with content providers, their own first party game sales, etc.

All that may not lead to the success they may be hoping for in achieving their overall goal of owning the living room, hence a failure in the sense of the purpose of the device for MS, but that doesn't mean it won't do well.

Anyone who thinks that the system will flounder out of the gate and be completely gone in a year because of what's going on now needs a reality check.

And I say this as someone who right now hates MS for what they tried to do, and someone who admittedly has a much bigger preference for Sony.

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RetroGqmer3945d ago (Edited 3945d ago )

You have to laugh at two bit websites, who've been around for five minutes, taking shots at long established, extremely credible gaming magazines like Edge.

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TrendyGamers3946d ago

It's going to be a fun fight to watch.

dedicatedtogamers3946d ago

Ironically, of the two brands (Xbox vs Playstation) only one brand is integral to the survival of their parent company. Only one company will fight tooth and nail to make sure that not only does their videogame console survive, but their gaming division survives, too.

Guess which company that is.

Mystogan3946d ago

Spoiler alert:

It's Sony, they are living of off the playstation. Without it, they would die quickly.

ThatCanadianGuy5143946d ago

i'm pretty sure they would do fine without it, Mystogan.

Sony financial services and insurance nets them 9+ Billion a year.

About the same for Sony pictures & Sony Music

theWB273946d ago

@DayZ
You couldn't possibly be that naive. Over the past 5 years the Playstation has been about the only thing keeping them afloat.

http://kotaku.com/5960411/h...

http://www.develop-online.n...

Please do some research.

ThatCanadianGuy5143946d ago (Edited 3946d ago )

Please do some research indeed.

"Its financial arm accounts for 63 percent of Sony’s total operating profit last year. Life insurance has been its biggest moneymaker over the last decade, earning the company 933 billion yen ($9.07 billion) in operating profit in the 10 years that ended in March.

Sony’s film and music divisions, which produced hits like the Spider-Man movies and “Zero Dark Thirty” and recorded musicians like the cellist Yo-Yo Ma and the electronic music duo Daft Punk, have contributed $7 billion to the company’s bottom line over the last decade.

In that time, Sony’s electronics division(Which Playstation is part of) has lost a cumulative $8.5 billion."(Mostly due to their marketshare loss of TV's)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013...

I mean really, if you're going to try and reply to me with some half-baked, snarky comment, at least put some minimal effort into it.Playstation keeping sony afloat? Really? It's their other sectors keeping their electronics division afloat, plain and simple.

AceBlazer133946d ago

@Mystogan dumbass sony doesn't live off playstation wouldn't be surprised if it was a burden to them.xbox plays a bigger role to microsoft though

devwan3946d ago

No, you're both wrong. They have both lost their parent companies money.

ftwrthtx3946d ago

In any console war, it is the gamers that win.

Godmars2903946d ago

All we got this gen were FPS, FPS with other game elements, and retro titles as people got tired of FPS.

This gen saw the death of 2D gaming, as well as the crippling of RPGs, flight sims and arcade games as main titles. Maybe with the nex gen diversity in gaming genres might make a comeback, but I currently doubt it.

SegaSaturn6693946d ago

I'm as disappointed as you are by the lack of non nintendo super robot wars games. But this generation is supposed to have a much shorter development period and only 3 more ff13 spinoffs.

Fireseed3946d ago

@SegaSaturn669

Shorter dev cycle? Have you any idea how much more detail we got to put into these things before we finish? Not only quality has been upped but now that both consoles have 50gb Blu-Rays for their media, the amount of it has only increased as well.

Campy da Camper3946d ago

Depends. For me, I really enjoyed Infamous, Little Big Planet, Portal, Oblivion, Fallout and other games. I used to be big on fps like rainbow 6 and I agree they grew stale. There are some great games this gen though.

Imalwaysright3946d ago

Is that why MS tried to implement draconian policies? Console wars only benefit us if the big 3 understand and listen to what we want. I still don't know what the hell MS was thinking. They almost killed the Xbox brand.

@ Godmars290 Couldn't agree more. This gen was definetely the worst. No creativity, no variety and overall less quality. Not only that but we had to deal with publishers/devs trying to nickle and dime us at every turn while they were releasing broken games left right and center.

Cueil3946d ago

look a completely unbiased site

MysticStrummer3946d ago

Did you read it?

What did they say that was biased?

They're saying don't count MS out.

MysticStrummer3946d ago

@Neo - I automatically saw sarcasm. My bad. *hangs head in shame*

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere7h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN4h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos2h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger4h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto6h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos6h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long3h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel5h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator4h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg8h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos7h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola2h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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