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Analysis: Xbox 360 poised to pass Wii in US sales by year’s end

It's practically conventional wisdom at this point that the Wii has been the best-selling system of this console generation, overall. By sustaining retail sellouts for months after launch and routinely selling millions of consoles every holiday season, the Wii built up what was a seemingly insurmountable lead in the American gaming hardware market, judged purely on raw hardware sales (software sales and hours of play are different matters, of course).

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Donnieboi3948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

It was the deceitful advertising that fooled casuals into thinking that COD and sports games were exclusive or better (read: MS paid for COD to get DLC early) versions.

Trust me, it didn't sell well because it had plenty of good exclusives or new IP's in the last four years (because it definitely didn't). In the rest of the world, 360 isn't selling so well, probably because the rest of the world (outside of the U.S.) is not as easily deceived.

HammadTheBeast3948d ago

Not to mention hundreds of thousands of RROD consoles. And no, they weren't reimbursed for free until 3 years into the consoles cycle, and even then, MS counted refurbished ones as sales.

Gazondaily3948d ago

@Donnieboi

So you've basically attributed the success of the 360 in the USA to the so-called stupidity of Americans?

Wow..... There's fanboy logic and then there's just sheer stupidity. Is it really hard for you to accept the fact that the 360 was and still is a great console for many people?

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Cmk01213948d ago

asian market despises the xbox 360 regardless of qaulity they will never buy it. and that sounds like some ole America hatred right there LOL, Americans are easily dec3eived LOL. its the number one selling console in the UK as well, as well as about to become the number one selling console of all time in UK over the ps2 which sold 10 million units there.It sells well because its online service craps on the competition, sony throws free games to at its subs to make up for lack of cross game chat and good servers. its xbox hate nation, funny thing is everyone is playing up to the media, all about policies not content, x1 was better at e3 than the competition they just are jackasses and have horrible marketing and killed themselves with the drm stuff which has since been removed. your a fool if you think sony didnt have similar policies and didnt decide to change them after the backlash, sony outright said they used that backlash to inform them on what to do. people are fools tehy think sony is consumer friendly not out to make a profit, that was the argument with xbl being required for online play, now sony does it and nobody says a word. ill be getting both, please folks stop being sheep to the media its pitiful

darthv723947d ago

"asian market despises the xbox 360 regardless of qaulity they will never buy it. and that sounds like some ole America hatred right there LOL"

That's because they are too busy buying Apple products and eating at McDonalds over there.

How about you switch gears and look more at "appeal" than "America hatred". It obviously does not appeal to the asian consumer on the same level as DS or wii/ps3 games do. They like quirky titles that the 360 just doesnt have in the same context as other platforms.

They like American products and services just fine but they like them more if they appeal to their interests.

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AAWELLS093947d ago

Oh thanks for the lesson as we all needed it. You wouldnt want us to believe different. Will you be going to bat for Sony in the next thread? btw you're incredibly smart.

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Rusty5153948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

Lmfao. Im a Sony fan myself, but the amount of Sony drones on here is hilarious. They're Just downvoting your comment for nothing.

YNWA963948d ago

Fair play to ya Rusty. I own both current Gen, but prefer most of my games on 360. If MS gave free money to everyone, I am sure they would find something wrong with it. Maybe they would be upset it was US dollar and not Euros or something... some people never happy, hope they are not like that in general.... or would be very miserable...

Rusty5153948d ago

@Gman0174: Yeah it's just that these fanboys never give props when props should be given. I don't have a 360, nor do I want one. But I still give credit where it's due.

vikingland13948d ago

It matters to Sony and that's a fact. MS took a big bite out of Sony's shares so it does matter. And I am also a fan of Sony. I like the 360 also. Is that bad?

thorstein3948d ago

Fair argument. However, much of the "gaming" sites are pro Xbox and N4G is one of the few pro SONY independent sites. Gamefaqs is purely XbotsRUs.

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dantesparda3947d ago (Edited 3947d ago )

Whats the point of this article? What matters the most is who sold more worldwide anyways. And the Wii still has the 360 beat. So what, now we are gonna act like the US and UK are the only 2 countries that matter and screw the rest of the world? So what, the 360 won because it outsold it in the US & UK? So misleading! And funny once the rest of the world is factored in, the 360 ends up selling the least

slugg3947d ago

Why is it who sold more worldwide that is important? I don't live "worldwide" so what sells in Japan and Europe doesn't mean much to me. As long as the games and services I want are available to me on my console of choice, I'm happy.

dantesparda3947d ago

I didnt mean it as whoever sells the most worldwide is the best for you, but they are trying to make a very stupid point, to try and make the 360 look better. It would be like losing the fight big time, but this site just pointing out the one or two punches you got in.

Mounce3947d ago

Well, they certainly aren't counting all the faulty 360's that broke down during the days of the 40%+ failure rate and the many millions who had to replace and buy a new 360, 2 to 5 times.

So - I'd wait til they're 5-10 million above Wii before it HONESTLY passes Wii at least.

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EVILDEAD3603948d ago (Edited 3948d ago )

UK and Now the US.

It just shows how impressive the 360 run was this gen despite Japan.

Will be interesting to see how it goes down this gen.

Evil

Donnieboi3948d ago

Japan, and the rest of the entire world. US and UK as the most 360 advertising. Yet 360 had very few exclusives and new IP's, and the least amount of variety in genre's (like JRPG's, RTS, free to play, or anything that isn't a western shooter) in the last few years

IcicleTrepan3948d ago

the average person is probably not interested in JRPGs. Personally, I bought a PS3 just for those because I couldn't get most of them on my 360.

HammadTheBeast3948d ago

UK and US only. Congrats to MS for these two regions, two of the biggest in gaming.

Next Gen, will be interesting.

Mikefizzled3948d ago

Its a shame because there was brilliant Japanese 360 exclusives RPG's like Infinite Undiscovery, Lost Odyssey then bullet hell games like Akai Katana, Deathsmiles and DoDonPachi. Hell Monster Hunter Frontier didn't convince the Japanese to buy the 360.

SoapShoes3947d ago

PS3 will probably pass the Wii in Europe this or next year too. It's only 2.5 million behind in Europe.

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DEEBO3948d ago

lol(MS) i beat you in the U.S.,(nintendo)yeah get back to me when you sell 100 million or win a generation or beat sony.MS fanboys love their chevy consoles.

no_more_trolling3948d ago

you dumb people and your brand loyalties
its just a frikking piece of electronic

grow up

YNWA963948d ago

Bubble for you, no more trolling... perfectly said....

vikingland13948d ago

Well Jack tretton himself said there are over 200,000 gamers in the U.S. alone so that is quite a big deal.

AAWELLS093947d ago

Grow up kid, you're embarrassing us.

Sm00thNinja3948d ago

Wow that's impressive!!! And of course nothing can be said positive about the Xbox. Well done Microsoft. From 20 million Xbox units sold to 77+ million with the 360. They've imposed their will on the industry

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10 Weirdest Video Games of All Time

Plenty of unforgettable games have completely messed up their players throughout the years, all the way back from the PS1 days to the dark recesses of the modern internet.

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JonTheGod18h ago

Why are the Katamari games not on the list??

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 15h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga18h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 14h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde21h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 13h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 12h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 12h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam1d 16h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 14h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional