X360A - In attendance at a swanky E3 party surrounded by luxury cars, Forza Motorsport 5 Game Director Dan Greenawalt is sat contemplating the queue of journalists he's volunteered to give interviews to. Chatting all night when he should really be enjoying the party, it's testament to just how passionate Greenawalt is about the Forza series that's come to be his baby that he's prepared to talk about Xbox One's big launch racer well into the evening.
Having outgrown its Gran Turismo rivalry, Forza Motorsport is looking to redefine racing games in glorious high fidelity for Xbox Series X and S.
I think forza horizon is now number one on the forza games. That franchise took the number one spot on racing on Microsoft machines. I think they should go next to forza rally, because there a huge hole on that area of racing. A full forza rally would be great. I think normal racing game already hit the ceiling.
"A full forza rally would be great. I think normal racing game already hit the ceiling."
The new Forza Motorsport marks a return to it´s simulator roots. Turn 10 is not aiming at Gran Turismo anymore. They´re aiming at Assetto Corsa and other full SIM racing games.
It took Turn10 8 games to implement tire and fuel management and now they are aiming for assetto corsa?
@obscure
Id ask u if u were joking but sadly i know ur being legit, what a shock.
Like pitbullmonster said it took 8 games just get tyre and fuel management in the game and somehow its leaped gt and when did gt fall behind the other sim racers lol
U could try to be a little more subtle when making fan boyish comments.
Guaranteed u havent even played the latest gt or assetto corso so likely have no idea what ur actually talking about.
Anyways back to the op, im glad motorsport is coming back exactly as is with a new physics system and revamped graphics, id take this all day over a rally game.
If they want to make a tally game then sure thatd be nice but not at the expense of motorsport
"Forza rally could be awesome"
Personally, I don´t think Xbox needs another *Forza* title since Microsoft already has one of the best Rally IPs in the genre.
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This game looks absolutely insane visually. I'm wondering what framerate it'll run at with RT enabled. Obviously, there will be 120hz and 60hz modes, but with what level of detail & RT is the question.
I'd assume 60fps still, but the resolution is likely dynamic just like it was in Forza Horizon, with 1/2 or 1/4 resolution raytracing which is apparent from the trailer. Allegedly what was shown was a combination of PC max settings and Series X targets, so we'll have to wait and see.
120Hz mode would be cool, but I'm not sure they'll do it, and if so it'll likely only be Series X. So I'd say:
Series X: Native 4K@60fps basically Max Settings / Dynamic 4K@60fps w. Raytracing (1440p - 4K)
Series S: Native 1440p@60fps High Settings / Dynamic 1080p@60fps w. Raytracing (720p - 1080p)
I really doubt they will do raytracing in 60fps mode, hopefully im wrong, but I just dont see it happening.
30fps RT mode
60fps performance mode without RT
Im not even sure there will be RT at all on Series S
@Onilink
The Series X should be able to do it without question, it's more of a question of how far down will the resolution have to drop when Reflections are at their most. A map with Rain, Puddles, multiple cars, and sunshine is going to be the stress point for the game, and we'll see if fps take the hit, or resolutions takes a nose dive in such as section. The resolution of reflections look 1080p on Series X because there was a good amount of aliasing going on, so I see Dynamic 4K with drops down to 1440p higher or lower depending on the map, time of day, weather conditions, number of cars on screen, and number of reflections.
The Series S is the one I question, because 1080p reflections while having aliasing is okay and not as noticeable while playing, so if the Series S uses quarter resolution we're looking at 540p reflections or lower and that's going to be very noticeable. But they said RT for Series consoles, but the didn't specify to what degree, aka used cars salesmen tactics, so it could very well be RT is in the PC version, and SX version, but it's RT shadows on the SS.
It would be a HUGE fail if they drop fps to 30fps for Raytracing in the SX version, but the Series S might have no choice in order to keep a high enough resolution. We'll see in 2023 I guess.
As a PlayStation only gamer, I have to admit that this new Forza game looks a generation ahead of GT7! And the water effects! Omg! Insanely photo realistic! Well done turn 10, well done.
does anyone remembers Rallisport challenge 20 years ago - that game was some rally racing with great graphics too
Carlos writes - "When it was time for Forza 5 to rock on up to the track, we were just entering the third generation of Xbox consoles, and to show off all that extra horsepower that would come inside the Xbox One, they wanted a flagship title that could truly showcase just what miracles the next generation could perform. And what better title than Microsoft’s beloved racer!"
Such s supreme racing title. Hands down racing franchise of recent decades. Nothing has come close in quality or ratings.
Apart from Forza 5. Talking about generally the Forza series has always been rated high. Perhaps Forza 5 was rushed for launch. Although made up again by Forza 6 and 7.
I liked the game well enough, it was a good starting point for the new gen and helped them build up to what motorsport 7 is now, the controversies wasnt with the numbers of cars or tracks though, it was more to do with the pc footage being passed off as xbox one, the downgrade from what they originally had shown caused more upset than the numbers.
Turn 10 Creative Director said the studio is now shifting weight to work on the next Forza Motorsport project and for the first time, they intend to involve fans from the concept phase.
They really need to double down on the sim aspect of the sport. The stat tracking, the personalities and figures that run the league and the fictional racers that make it popular, hiring pit crews and key personnel that give my team a boost on race day. The presentation really needs to mimic that of real racing that one would watch on TV. I want to be in full control over my racer...not just in terms of gear, but what he/she looks and behaves like. I want hall of fame records by fictional racers that I can then break. I want a NFL2K5 "Cribs" like space that players can deck out with trophies they won...put up posters on walls of pictures they taken or downloaded...watch replays of races we've saved. I want seasons like FH4 where races would be marked on the calendar and depending on what time of year it is and where the race takes place geographically, the weather will act accordingly. I want to see fictional racers get injured due to events that have taken place on the track...even miss races due to these injuries. I want to get indorsement deal offers from real brands (even some made up ones) because of my play on track. I want announcers added that talk about interesting things during the races.
You say that but I personally think it would be badass to have a Horizon race with a dragon XD
I always did wonder what would happen if Turn 10...for one release...didn’t make a forza game. Want to see what else their impressive talents are capable of? Especially now with the horizon guys in tow and building up with horizon 4. I’m sure the series could take a break too
This is just like asking Polyphony Digital to stop making GT games, which you know, will never ever happen. These studios were created to make these specific games.
Polyphony made Motor toon grand prix before they even made the 1st GT and made Tourist tophy and omega boost after they made GT... So, no Poly wasnt created to make GT because their 1st, 2 games weren't even GT related.
@gibreel
That is correct. But what I’m saying is lately Polyphony hasn’t made anything beside GT game.
I would like to see them assist another studio like they did with Playground in the Horizon games.
A third franchise (preferably not named Forza) that is purely arcade would do well to round out the racing genre on Xbox. I still think a cart racer with Turn 10 assisting Rare would be fun. Or pick up the ball dropped by NFS.
Glad they are bring the rivals mode. Forza 5 is a beautiful game and it uses the cloud which is a plus.
I will be picking up the rain and night pack once it is DLC. :)