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Sony: PS3 Games Streaming Via Cloud in 2014 for US Only, No Timeline for Europe, PS4 Games Later

The ability to stream games via the cloud is going to be an important selling point for PS4, but when can gamers expect to enjoy it? According to Sony Computer Entertainment Europe President Jim Ryan it really depends on where they live and what they want to stream.

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Pillsbury13950d ago

Nice! Can't wait to stream me some classics, only on playstation!

AngelicIceDiamond3950d ago

Makes sense, U.S is the standard territory for new releases in tech. Such as Gaikai to kick things off.

sunnygrg3950d ago

Yup.

Cellphone carriers bloating prices every year, ISPs throttling connection speeds among other things.

#1 indeed.

georgeenoob3950d ago

I bet if MS was in the title instead of Sony the comments would blow up with sheep and there would be a boycott or some shizzle.

AngelicIceDiamond3950d ago

I guess I'm wrong then. Anyone care to clear things up for me.

HammadTheBeast3950d ago

Japan usually has this tech early, and EU is much more technologically developed than US.

PLASTICA-MAN3950d ago

Gaikai max resolution is 720p, which is fine if they want to stream PS3 games, but how will they stream PS4 games then? Will they upgrade their servers? And Gaikai for USA first does that mean you have to live in the US or you just need an US account to play first?

torchic3950d ago

@angelic

if you read the article you'd know why they're starting with US while EU gets it later

badz1493950d ago

and eventhough I'm not interested in using the service as I still have 3 working PS3s in my possession, it's nice to have the choice. but knowing my country, it might never see the light of day here :(

andrewsqual3950d ago

@georgeenoob Yep and by Xbots too no doubt just like with the no DRM thing. What difference did it make to PlayStation fans about the policies for Xbone?

NumOnePS3FanBoy3950d ago

They need to stop looking at EU as not as important as U.S. EU is PS territory and Sony needs to release services their too asap or same day as any other territory. ANd i'm in the u.s

gaffyh3950d ago

I think this is more to do with stuff like the US is pretty much one large landmass, and it is easier to implement the server infrastructure etc. I'd also argue that people in the US want BC more than other territories, I personally don't care about BC, but sucks that Europe is getting shafted like always.

minimur123950d ago

and the broken promises start...

miyamoto3950d ago

@ Crossing Eden
"so, microsoft limits some of their services and people flip, sony limits this service and gets praised -_-"

Where in the article did it say Sony is limiting its Gaikai service?
Jim Ryan said phased approach.
Do you know or have seen the entirety of Gaikai?
You know what is limited? Your reading comprehension and ability to troll effectively.
Try harder next time, bro.

morganfell3949d ago

The day I heard Sony was going to buy Gaikai I ceased my purchase of physical game discs knowing that any PS3/Vita purchase in digital form would likely later be available on PS4. And since I owned the digital version already my ability to stream would in all likelihood be covered on that title I owned.

BallsEye3949d ago (Edited 3949d ago )

Dude, travel a bit. Here, in Eastern Europe my 71 y old uncle got 100mbps connection at 15 USD (converted from local currency) a month. Also free mobile internet in whole country at 1 mbps. I still see those old TV's and monitors in US, you can't find those in my country anymore even if you want to! probably because already for few years analog signal television is not available, only digital HD one. You do get hollywood movies first tho...and probably the newest techs are introduced in Japan first (most of time atleast). You should check out their beauty saloons, it's from outta space! (No I didn't go for myself, got an asian wife, lol) US is probably first for hollywood movies and new McDonald deals =O....just kiddin...

Mike134nl3949d ago

In the past gaikai was also available in Europe. It does makes sense as US is the strongest xbox market. Not sure if they need to rebuild infrastructure as they already did their pilot in the EU.
Also not sure why people (who own a ps3) would want to stream their ps3 games. Requires always on internet you cannot play games offline.

andibandit3949d ago

Am I the only one living in europe and a bit frustrated by this????....no timeline for europe?!?!?!?!?

fr0sty3949d ago

Europe is a trickier market to roll a service like this in, mainly because instead of dealing with one country you are dealing with many. Bandwidth caps are also more common in Europe than here in the USA.

It isn't that they're trying to "leave europe out". It's just that Europe is a more complex beast to tackle.

BattleAxe3949d ago

I really wish Sony would give us more details on this streaming service, like how much it will cost, or does it allow you to stream games that you've already purchased as digital downloads on the PS3 for free.

I think this is probably one of the most important features for the PS4, so some clarity would be good. Hopefully we'll hear more about it in the months leading up to the launch of the PS4.

SilentNegotiator3949d ago

@georgeenoob

Are you aware that 99.99999% of your comments are just "Oh yeah?! But if it was teh Sony...!!!"?

AO1JMM3949d ago (Edited 3949d ago )

@ HammadTheBeast

"EU is much more technologically developed than US"

Please show me your source. EU is not a country all in itself.

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Kanzes3950d ago (Edited 3950d ago )

Does people in Asia can use this feature too?

r213950d ago

Seeing as Japan is one of their profitable areas and the place where PS is quite popular, bet we can see Gaikai being there after or before the US launch.

NBT913949d ago

No. It is releasing in America, which is not in Asia.

I'm pretty sure its to do with regulations and laws, not which is more profitable or technologically advanced.
That's the excuse they always use for everything arriving late in Europe at least.

guitarded773950d ago

I hope they implement that trophy patent that surfaced a few months back and add them to all the classics.

Skate-AK3950d ago

Man, I have a big enough backlog as it is. If they did that I would probably develop a Vitamin D deficiency.

TheBrownBandito3950d ago

I'm buying into the next gen for PS4 games. Waiting to stream PS3 games really isn't a deal breaker.

Kiddcarter3950d ago

I understand this service for ps4 and vita, but I'm confused as to why i need the ability to stream ps3 games to a ps3

TheUndertaker853950d ago

Simply put, ease of access.

Would mean instead of having to go to the nearest store to pick up a game or waiting for it to download if purchased digitally you could simply buy then start playing, little to no wait.

stuna13950d ago

Suppose you don't want to go out and buy the game at a retailer Sony gives you the ability to stream it directly to your PS3, or the game is simply sold out, you don't have to go around searching for it, or for it to be restocked.

CrossingEden3950d ago

so, microsoft limits some of their services and people flip, sony limits this service and gets praised -_-

Wintersun6163950d ago (Edited 3950d ago )

I don't see much praising here. And this is in no way similar to MS paywalls and attempts to DRM. This is implementing a new technology and testing it in one region before launching it worldwide. Also the actual reason EU territories aren't getting it is the ridiculous EU laws. Completely different situations.

S2Killinit3949d ago

@CrossingEden
read the article please, there is a difference between what Microsoft tries to pull and this.

1nsaint3950d ago

I wonder how its gonna work with titles that u already own on ps3, i'd imagine anything bought on psn will transfer, making it free on ps4.

Not sure how it's gonna work with games we have on discs though..

Wintersun6163950d ago

I'm sure PS4 would be able to recognize a PS3 game disc even without the ability to actually play them. So it could be just: insert PS3 game disc, start streaming.

1nsaint3950d ago

^ that would be awesome, if sony can pull that of its actually backward compatible :)

fermcr3950d ago (Edited 3950d ago )

LOL. The funny thing is that if this was Microsoft instead of Sony... everybody would be bashing Microsoft and a few articles would be written to say Microsoft is the devil reincarnated.

Sony first presented payed multiplayer, now this. Sony is getting away quite easy this time around. Are there going to be more surprises? I'm curious to see how PS+ with the PS4 is going to be, if they will offer as many games as they offered with the PS3.

Angeljuice3949d ago

At first there won't be as many games because there aren't many games for the PS4 as of yet (thought that was quite obvious). It will grow as a service over time (as it did on PS3).

extermin8or3950d ago

You're notwrong at least they have their priorities hmm, they know who the guinnea pigs to test everything on are and who to release a fully functioning, testd product too.... (EU, Japan etc)

greenlantern28143950d ago

Also makes sense since u.s is the only territory where they trail Xbox, but sony should be very careful not to alienate the other regions so give to u.s first but don't make Europe, UK, Japan, etc. Wait to long.

3-4-53949d ago

This is awesome. Now all these PS3 games that are releasing can be played on the PS4.

Good job. Hopefully they support it for Europe to, as they have a huge following there.

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SatanSki3949d ago

I probably wouldnt play streamed game for free with its crapy video and lag.

xtremeimport3949d ago

They REALLY need to get this service out ASAP. This is a huge a feature that can really be a bragging point for Sony. It will move Vitas as well.

Look forward to seeing this on every Ps4.

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Majin-vegeta3950d ago

Excellent.Let's hope it's not too long for European players to get it.

Abriael3950d ago

I'm a tad sad that we'll get it later (as usual), even if it's hardly Sony's fault.

GamersRulz3950d ago

its late in EU because of different laws and procedures. EU has a very strict laws.

HammadTheBeast3950d ago

Well, you're lucky since you get PS4 early.

extermin8or3950d ago

Well at least they'll have had time to test it :p

psyxon3950d ago

it most likely won't be. it's probably due to servers.

ginsunuva3950d ago

Yes they have to place servers in different continents for latency.

DarkZane3950d ago

I wonder if US includes Canada here. Usually, it does, but can't be too sure here. They either mean USA or North America. They probably means North America and that would include it.

Liefx3950d ago

I certainly hope so. I am ready to throw money at them so they had better get it before I get upset.

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ltachiUchiha3950d ago

Yeah it sucks because europe gets the shaft with most gaming companies. Im sure there will be some goodies to make up for europe gamers. I feel bad for them though because they pay a grip for games & consoles. It makes sense though since america was the worst area versus the 360 so their trying to win back the US.

HammadTheBeast3950d ago

Have you guys SEEN the games you get for PS+? Much better than US.

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PS5 on Track to Become Sony's 'Most Successful Console Ever,' Says Jim Ryan

Former PlayStation boss Jim Ryan has said that the PS5 is "on track" to become SIE's "most successful console ever."

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Lightning7714d ago

Now he wants to say good things about PS after he laid off a bunch of ppl.

Real classy Jimmy.

Einhander197214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Is that the worst you can come up with? Because if I was criticizing Microsoft I could easily list a dozen things only one of which would be the 5000+ people they have fired from their gaming divisions in the past 16 months including everyone who worked on producing physical games.

Let me remind you that PS5 is selling faster than PS4, they just had the hit live service game Helldivers, Spider-Man is still charting, they have already released Granblue Fantasy, Rise of The Ronin, and Final Fantasy Rebirth and Stellar Blade is right around the corner, they also have Silent Hill and two Kojima games in the works. They also have all the big gatcha coming out of Japan, Korea and China lined up for their consoles, which let me remind you that Genshin and Honkai Star Rail made close to a billion dollars last month alone.

They also have PlayStation Portal which is selling as fast as they can make them, and just around the corner they have a 33.5tf console coming out which don't listen to the BS is going to be awesome and supporting it is going to be easy since every game already has two modes so "quality" mode will only need to be unlocked for PS5 Pro's and existing games will be able to easily have PSSR enabled for them.

So yeah, things are looking really good for PlayStation, and the second half of the generation is going to be huge when all the PlayStation developers start releasing their PS5 Pro Enabled games.

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Lightning7714d ago

"Is that the worst you can come up with?"

I'm. Sorry what? Its called facts. I forgot you love Jim Ryan even if he doesn't know or care about you. None of them do. The sooner you touch grass and grow up the better.

Ok cool so what's the point of saying all that? I know all that.

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StormSnooper13d ago

@Lightning
Except it wasn’t a fact. Ryan has left PlayStation already. The layoffs that we saw with every publisher recently were after Ryan. So nice try.

Lightning7713d ago (Edited 13d ago )

"Except it wasn’t a fact. Ryan has left PlayStation already. The layoffs that we saw with every publisher recently were after Ryan. So nice try."

That was all Ryan before he left clearly. He stepped down officially a few days ago. He was doing his good byes he even took a picture with the London Studio only to shut them down days later. Don't try and shift blame or change history it was all him.

S2Killinit13d ago

Ryan left in September. 🤦

DivineHand12513d ago

I thought the layoffs were bad. It's bad when Microsoft does it and when Phil Spenser spoke about it 99% of the comments on this site were about how Xbox sucks. When someone is commenting on how Sony layoff people, you instantly find persons that run to defend Sony. This type of behavior is not good for gaming. Remain consistent in your principles no matter who is doing the wrongdoings. Stop waving your pompoms to one side because these companies don't care about you or their employees.

JackBNimble13d ago

Ryan announced it in September, he didn't leave in September.

Lightning7713d ago

Omg https://en-as-com.cdn.amppr...

Not even a few days ago just yesterday he left.

Hiroki Totoki is temporarily taking Jim's spot doing Jim's work for 7 months until he was gone April 1 . Now anymore foolish deflection from you ppl?

StormSnooper13d ago

@divine
Layoffs are bad, but we get these guys with zero credibility, who all of a sudden want to bring up layoffs because an article says something they don’t like. All the while they never bothered when MS did more than twice the layoffs after spending 68 billion to destroy multiplatform segment of gaming. The double standard SHOULD be mentioned.

Cacabunga13d ago

I just want to see those single player first party games.. i do not like the silence from ww studios

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Eonjay13d ago

I'm sure you also would say the same thing about Phil Spencer to be logically consistent.

fr0sty13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

You tell us, he laid of orders of magnitude more people than Sony did, and you remained silent.

JackBNimble13d ago

Are you guy's defending Jim Ryan just because he was part of playstation?
The guy did nothing good for the industry the entire time he was head of playstation.
It's his bad decision's that got people fired .

Lightning7713d ago

@Frost really now? Go find the article and look through the comments and you'll see my comment mocking MS. This isn't about MS though just the usual whataboutism from you.

But cool keep making up more stories it's in your head kiddo.

Funny to see Jim Ryan is suddenly a hero on here now.

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StormSnooper13d ago

Fun fact:
MS laid off 1900 employees from MS studios.
Sony laid off 900 employees from Sony Interactive Studios.

I hope you liked the classy MS after spending 68 BILLION on buying up the industry, then firing people.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

@Lightning77
Did it upset you that PlayStation is successful?

Lightning7713d ago

I have PS so why would it upset. I'm not a weirdo did Jim Ryan do lay offs or not?

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Because you always seem to be upset when PlayStation is going good.

And Ryan retired in September. Sony laid off 900 employees recently. Every other large publisher did as well, including MS which laid off the most developers at 1900.

For the sake of proving your objectivity, please show me any comment you made about how MS showed its class by laying off developers after spending 69 billion on cannabalizing the industry. No joke, did you make any comment like that?

StormSnooper13d ago

I’m pretty sure you won’t hear back from him.

Lightning7713d ago

It's your head wanna see fanboy in everyone else because you are one. Not how it works I'm afraid.

Ryan announced his retirement in September. He was still in office Hiroki was training under Ryan hence why we've heard from Hiroki and not Ryan. Ryan officially left yesterday.

That's means Ryan did those lay offs. For God sakes just google it since it's so hard hard for you to understand.

"Sony laid off 900 employees recently. Every other large publisher did as well, including MS which laid off the most developers at 1900."

Yeah... No duh...

Wait class? MS showed no class they were candid about the lay offs and their strategy. They said no patronizing words as far as I know.

Other than that I don't know what you're even talking about. What comments do I have?

S2Killinit13d ago

Haha bravo! way to ignore what I said, conveniently. But, that answers my question. You need say no more.

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Cockney13d ago

I'm sure he was saying good things about playstation before they laid people off, not sure of your point

Lightning7713d ago

He lays off ppl and shut down a studio then wants to say good things about PS, not hard to understand. He was saying good things because he worked there, of course he said good things at the company he worked for.

They all do, so I don't know what you mean.

fr0sty13d ago

You say that like Phil didn't just give thousands of people the axe while you stood in silence. We see your hypocrisy... We know you're mad that your box just got the Dreamcast treatment, but at least try to remain objective.

Lightning7713d ago

Nice wrong assumption as always. You're a funny guy though.

Where I mocked MS

https://n4g.com/comments/re...

Anything else I can shut you on? You know know first hand I'm good at that

TheEroica13d ago

Ps5 is a turd of a console. If it outsells the ps2 Itll be the greatest paper tiger in gaming history. All pop and no fizzle.

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Profchaos14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Also Jim Ryan by the way everyone PS2 now sold 160 million total.

Still yes ps5 is a fantastic console if the games library in it's later half follows past cycles of showing off what the true hardware capabilities are we are still yet to see it's best games.

Rockstar is going to make the console sing with GTA 6.

With Xbox floundering talk of EU stores no longer stocking the games going third party fanbase is more divided than ever and Nintendo doing its own thing even delaying (rumour) switch 2 till next year PlayStation is running seemingly unopposed I'm not sure if that's a good thing but it's the reality we are in

PhillyDonJawn13d ago

Yet you still laid off a ton of people

Leeroyw13d ago

So should you keep staff you don't need in any other business? That's called socialism.

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Official PlayStation Podcast Episode 481: Here’s To You, Jim

PlayStation Podcast returns with Pacific Drive and Helldivers 2 talk. And the gang says goodbye to an old friend.

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phoenixwing17d ago

I think Jim is getting positive send-off since on mostly on his watch xbox turned into a multiplatform machine.

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PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan Reveals PS2 Sold 160 Million Units Worldwide

Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) President and CEO Jim Ryan has confirmed that PlayStation 2 sales reached a staggering 160 million units sold worldwide.

The soon-to-be-retired gaming boss offered an updated figure during a chat on a recent episode of the Official PlayStation Podcast. The conversation saw him covering his time at Sony while talking about the company’s direction for the future.

When asked about what the 2000s brought to mind, Ryan responded with, “The 2000s? That would be, I would say, 160 million, which is the number of PS2s that we sold. A high watermark.”

just_looken17d ago

The ps2/ps3 era so many dam good games and then you got the online im sure i am not the only one with a ps2 network disc that still works and the modem/lan deal for the ps2.

Great consoles all around

Cacabunga17d ago

The same moron Ryan doesn't understand that great games not gaas is the reason why PS2 was so successful

just_looken17d ago

Ryan took charge in 2018 sense then we got the gutted ps4 update that killed simple coms 2 of the main studios dead went from multiple new exclusives on ps4 to the ps5 ghost town.

Crossplay that killed competitive gaming and just simple controller vs controller

Gaas crap like you said

Ps4 ip's just dead

hey were is my ps move support eye toy or even the ps vr support ryan?

The ps vita 2 rip

The horrible ps5 user interface

Sony push into making there games for everyone moved hq to cali now all esg

There psn chat being monitored by ai can not say/share anything now eyes are watching you

That is just the top of my head its just not the games ryan failed to understand under his leadership he killed alot of what made playstation.

blackblades17d ago

Ps2 couldnt even do gaas or anything it was forced go that one route.

Modpeel16d ago

Horrible Ps5 interface? Ya, ok. That's not a thing. At least you tried

jznrpg17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

PS2 was one of the best generations ever if not the best. Imo much better than PS3 gen though there were some great games during the PS3 gen it started out a little slow and finished strong

Shane Kim17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Imo the classic consoles stopped with PS3. Now it's just copy and paste games, online, gaas and dlc's. This is why I really like FF7 Rebirth. Feels like a classic game.

Cacabunga16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

PS3 is my favorite PS console ever, followed closely by PS1.
PS2 was amazing but i haven’t been gaming much that gen.. too busy with schooling and stuff..
PS4 was just copy paste of PS3, like Shane said. Other than bloodborne and VR i didn’t feel there was something truly incredible and worth remembering last gen for.

FinalFantasyFanatic16d ago

I pray that my PS2/PS3 never dies, I have so many good games trapped on them, I know one out of two of my PS2s have died (I was considering opening it up and having a lot inside).

just_looken16d ago

I had my launch xbox die it was the power supply i never knew until i got a new one and after the fact opened my old one that the power supply could be replaced with a few cables :(. You never know it could be a simple ribbon cable

FinalFantasyFanatic15d ago

@Just_looken,
Hopefully it's something simple, it still powers on, just doesn't output picture/video or sound.

Relientk7717d ago

The game library of the PS2 speaks for itself. These sales are absolutely well deserved. PS2 is still arguably the best game console of all time.

just_looken17d ago

Game library and the features third console to have online mp but it became mainstream thanks to ps2/xbox then you got that sweet dvd player and the console size got so tiny. Singstar/eye toy the portable version oh also that component cable output then the whole sp game after months getting somewhat boring well gameshark it woot woot

FinalFantasyFanatic16d ago

I did main my PS2 as a DVD player when I wasn't playing games, good times.

Sgt_Slaughter17d ago

I just wish the video quality was better on the system since I've got so many classics for it. Yes, it can go all the way up to 1080i for certain games, but even today it's hard to get the right cables and the right calibration to make things look great compared to the Xbox or GC

just_looken17d ago

If you can there hard 2 find but launch ps3 consoles with backwards compatibility are great for replaying ps2 games.

FinalFantasyFanatic16d ago

I plug my PS2 into my AVR, but that seems to be more complicated that I would have expected, maybe I can find a component to HDMI converter at some point.

SimpleSlave17d ago

While I would always consider the OG XBOX as the best system during that generation - some of the games were truly next gen. So much so that the graphics actually affected the gameplay and game design - I still love the PS2. Still, it's clearly obvious that we are beyond spoiled now a days. Where the most middle of the road game has better controls and gameplay that half the PS2 library. Ditto for the Indie scene.

The reality is that the PS4 is the greatest console of all times by a country mile and the PS4/Switch/WiiU/Xbone generation is the greatest gen ever. Not even close. The PS4 physical library is almost ludicrous at this point. Then you add the digital library and there was never a comparison.

Skuletor17d ago

Your opinion isn't "reality".

SimpleSlave17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

@Skuletor - Neither is yours, bud. Still, I never claimed it to be my opinion, it was just an observation based on the quality of titles released for the console. From compilation of classics, to re-releases of classic, to its own unique library of physical and digital games released throughout the 10 years of its existence. All of it counting toward making the PS4 the best console ever released.

If you don't agree then you're more than welcome to chime in with something a bit more substantial. Otherwise, why bother?

mcstorm16d ago

I get where you are coming from. For me I enjoyed the Dreamcast the most that gen and seeing PS2 Vs DC games now I kind of know why with the output being better on the DC. I also owned a Xbox, GameCube and PS2 but the PS2 was my least used console that gan.

I was surprised at the time as I played my psx alot more than my Saturn and N64 I have found each gen my preference has changed. Just like the Xbox one, PS4 and WiiU gen I played more of the WiiU than the other two.

I'm fully off consoles at the moment and own a Rog Ally with a 3080 that I connect it to when docked and I've really enjoyed this console alot more than I thought I would.

That said the sales of the PS2 is impressive and I can see why people like it so much but just like anything in life some of us prefer other things to what is popular.

Just like I've never owned an apple product as they are just not for me.

SimpleSlave16d ago

@mcstorm - I'm pretty much the same way. My favorite consoles are the OG Xbox, the PS1, and the Sega CD with all 5 games. Then it's the PS4. So I'm not even saying this as a number one fan or anything like that.

As you said, some prefer the popular system, and that's fine, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think the problem lies when they make their taste the holy grail of anything. In the case of the PS2, the system was absolutely amazing, and I never even imply otherwise. Some legendary series were either born or expanded on that system, no doubt about it. But I think, when you step back and look at the experiences and games and franchises released for each of the systems, the PS4 is simply at a ludicrous place. And I do believe, only when looking back, people will come to realize this.

People do forget that back in those days, there were actually less games coming out. The gaming droughts were absolutely real and brutal. If there was nothing coming out, then there was literally nothing coming out. Now? There is never really a drought. When people say nothing is coming out, they mostly refer to AAA and popular games, but if you keep your eyes on the industry, you know that a plethora of great games come out on a monthly basis. From AA to Indy games. There's always something coming out and a lot of it is pretty good.

And that's probably the problem. When there is so much good stuff coming out, nothing in particular stands out. So it does seem like no legendary games are being released compared to the PS2. But there are and you just have to look for them, sadly. Especially when a lot of these games are only coming out digitally, so they become even more obscure and difficult to reach. Like I said, in 20 years, people will look back at the PS4 library and be in complete astonishment as to how they miss most of it.

As somebody that collected for the XBOX, PS2 and mainly the PS1, I can tell you there are so many hidden gems in those systems, it's pretty surprising. And as somebody that tried to collect for the PS4? I gave up. I can't really keep up anymore. It's too much. Too many great games coming out that are worthy of having in the collection, but between digital, limited runs, European and Japanese only releases, things got way out of hands a few years ago.

I would love to see a complete collection of the system. I think it'll put stuff in perspective for some.

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Sgt_Slaughter17d ago

So odd that the number is suddenly higher than previously thought right as the Switch is closing in on the long standing record.

Crows9017d ago

They stopped reporting numbers so....yeah

ShwaaMan17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I mean I hear what you’re saying, he did just round up by 2 million, but that doesn’t mean he’s lying either, maybe just updating the official number. The Switch still has 15 million to go to beat the Nintendo DS and another 5 million (approx) to beat the PS2… and it’s in its 7th year now. Also, if it does end up surpassing the PS2 will it hold that record for another 20 years like PS2 did?
A massive success for any of the big 3 is good for everyone, it drives the competition and should be celebrated across the board in my opinion. It makes everyone notice and adapt to the winning formula which is good for all of us. I love my Switch, it’s the first Nintendo system I have owned since GameCube, but they all have their strengths and I love my PlayStation and I have had all of them. Sony caters to my preferences in gaming more than the others. But that’s me.
Fanboys are so odd, what a weird thing to flex. Hey guess what, Microsoft has sold 600 million copies of Windows 7, mic drop?🤷‍♂️

mkis00717d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Whatever your hinting at is stupid; most people assumed ps2 was above 160 million because of the time between last sales report and last console manufactured. Switch is handheld, it will always be competing in that space. Ps2 had a smaller industry as well. Unless you think it would succeed without being a portable? Wii u 2?

Good-Smurf17d ago

IKR, all Nintendo did was they finally made more powerful Wii U portable and that's plays into their strength.
And it doesn't take much to make something more powerful than Wii U even back then.
It would have been a lot lower in sales if it wasn't a Hybrid console.
PS2 was able to do that huge numbers with much smaller industry and without the help of social media and easy access to cheap fast internet.

ChasterMies16d ago

Never underestimate the trickle of sales of old hardware. I’m glad that Sony keeps old hardware (and games for the old hardware) on the market after the new hardware releases.

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Gamerscore207717d ago

The PS2 had a phenomenal library of games for every genre. It’s unfortunate we’re never going to witness something like that again.

just_looken17d ago

Too think all those ip's sony just burred out back or tossed to companies like activision on the cheap what a waist.

mkis00717d ago

Its more of how long it takes for games to come out due to dev cycles. Think how fast sequels came out like gta 3-san andreas, god of war 1,2. Battlefront...

FinalFantasyFanatic16d ago

@mkis007,
I really don't know why more big budget studios don't do some AA titles in between bigger titles, not everything needs to be a AAA game with huge cinematic and photo realistic graphics.

jznrpg16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Of course we won’t get as many games. It takes 2-3x longer and more money to make a game than it did back then.

rlow117d ago

So he just came up with this fact all these years later??? I wonder if it has to do with the Switch closing in on the PS2 lifetime sales? How convenient.

NotoriousWhiz17d ago

He probably just rounded 155 to 160 million.

rlow117d ago

Could be but that’s a big 5 million stretch. Especially after all these years we were told different

TheCaptainKuchiki16d ago

could you please NOT pretend like you know better than the CEO of said company 💀

rlow116d ago

@TheCaptianKuchilki

I do doubt the narrative and Jim has lied before even going as far a lying to the FTC. Heck, he went and visited the London studio and didn’t hint that in two days they all would lose their jobs. While he may be quite sincere and honest about the numbers, something he could have rectified years ago. The timing and his past behavior makes it highly suspicious. So I do question the validity of his statement.

mkis00717d ago (Edited 17d ago )

You people are smoking some bad reefer with this conspiracy stuff. This is not the first time this was known, just the first time it is official. They could care less abou home console 2000's vs portable console 2010's...they are not invested in the school yard bs like you or me.

derek17d ago

@rlow1, it's you that are making a big deal about it. Why would he lie, becuase he's worried the switch will pass that total? Lol. Don't confuse the console war conversations we have on n4g with Ryan's statements on anything playstation. He was with playstation from the start and was apart of their climb to success. He would have the exact number.

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