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Sony to GameStop: "The Flood Gates Are Open for PS4 System Reserves"

In a memo given to GameStop stores this morning, Sony has given the go ahead to take an unlimited amount of preorders for the PlayStation 4.

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Nevers3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

Damnit now I just want to see some good ole Ray Harryhausen movies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

indysurfn3953d ago

Am I the only person that caught this?
Now they are being successful by using the term:"offline game".

Did you catch that, if you install a "OFFLINE game" then you will not have restrictions, that is the condition.

What defines a "OFFLINE game" What if only one game has the label of offline game on it? Most likey candidate would be a turned based rpg.
Heck what percent of games don't have a component of online on 360 games right now? Microsoft almost required it with few exceptions.
If there is a term "OFFLINE game" as a condition. for you to not have to get online.

Microsoft qoute:An internet connection will not be required to play OFFLINE Xbox One games....If they where not trying to fool you it would
read:An internet connection will not be required to play Xbox One games. see the difference? I don't care if it drops to 199 It is still taking away my used games rights!!! plus as I pointed out the DRM issue is conniving explained to fool us? This is what Microsoft meant by they will make this CLEAR. (MORE TRICKY) This could just be a feature on the back of the box. So if they dont make a offline box like they have a 'online multi player' capable box on the back of the disc it is okay to still drm you to there hearts are content!!!

insomnium23953d ago

Man I wish they gave us a launchdate to look forward to.

solidjun53953d ago

@indysurfn Why are all your posts about the same? Me think you're spamming.

zeee3953d ago

The Oracle gave us a prophecy. Come 2013, PS4 will be "The One".

S2Killinit3953d ago

@indysurfn
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is fooling everyone. They know once you make the mistake of purchasing their hitlerbox you wont be likely to return it.

ThanatosDMC3953d ago

Anyone know how much the pre-order is? I really wanted to order this on newegg instead of Gamestop... but looks like Gamestop it is.

FFXI1013953d ago

ThanatosDMC.

GameStop is $100 down, Bestbuy is $25 there are no limited spot for preorder of PS4, but there is limited spot for Xbox one.

Benchm4rk3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

@indysurfn

Seriously dude give it up already. That's like the 3rd thread where you have posted the same dribble. It has nothing to do with this topic. We all get your but hurt about the Xbox One reversing there DRM. Get the f#$k over it. If your not gonna buy one fine. Mine and thousands of others a still pre ordered and I couldn't care less what you think. Shut up and go get your PS4 on launch day

fr0sty3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

indy, give it up. It says "offline game" because PS+ is required to play a game online, so they can't say you can play an online game with no restrictions considering that requirement. If they did just say "game" instead of "offline game", it would be false advertisement. Your argument is dead. Go find a new one.

The_Con-Sept3951d ago

PS4 pre orders are going fast... At my gamestop it is at 78.

Unlimited doesn't mean jack squat. How the hell are they supposed to hold as many pre orders for a console in those tiny stores????? Even a semi truck can barely hold a few hundred thousand of them.....

( oh come on that was funny!)

@ indysurfn

No one really cares about what Microsoft's evil plan is because it hasn't been widespread yet. In due time people will realize what the hell is going on. But for now let it simmer

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s8anicslayer3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

@Xwow Man curse you because when I read that comment all contents in my mouth like my coffee had to be cleaned off my monitor and workstation...thank you! :)

Sitdown3953d ago

They just better make sure I get my launch day edition before they go to crazy.... I got the email from Amazon, but would have a serious problem if orders being allocated to gamestop messed it up.

b_one3953d ago

Kraken died in God of War 2.

MWong3953d ago

The Kraken always dies.

bganci3953d ago

Spoiler Alert Thanks a lot lol

b_one3953d ago

@bganci, damn its and old game... ;)

Nevers3953d ago

Kraken also dies in
(spoiler)
FF1

Methinks this Kraken thing is stronger than we first anticipated.

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MegaSackman3953d ago

Then, unleash armageddon.

kreate3953d ago

There's another kraken in resistance 2.

ThanatosDMC3953d ago

Kraken doesnt die in Tactics Ogre: Let's Cling Together because it becomes one of your soldiers.

Timesplitter143953d ago

@MegaSackman
Armageddon died at the hands of Bruce Willis

wenaldy3953d ago

WTF, no one mentioned Pirates of Carribean :(

Daves3953d ago

Still needs a good unleashing!

badz1493953d ago

Clash of the Titans, anyone?

Wintersun6163953d ago

Pffft. Kraken is a pussy. Release Cthulhu!

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MazzingerZ3953d ago

SONY is a HW manufacturer as well which positions them with a unique advantage over MSFT, they have better relations in that area at lower costs as a result of long time partnerships.

That's why they can deliver quality HW, higher specs at lower costs even when there might be a loss it's not as big as if it was MSFT delivering that HW... no power brick and still a slim console says everything about design and component used by SONY, X1 has probably no lock for the disc...by the way, has X1 still a disc tray besidesgigantic powerbrick?

slazer1013953d ago

^this. Now they are considering selling off some of there entertainment holdings to strengthen their electronic division. Just goes to show where they want to go in the future. which is great to hear. I hope the shareholders approve it.

http://www.theepochtimes.co...

nunley333953d ago

Slazer i read some big investors suggested spinning off their entertainment properties into a separate company and sell off things like the insurance and the medical device co. Pepsi spunoff their kfc,taco bell, pizza hut restaurants plus frito lay into yum brands and that has worked well for them.

thehitman3953d ago

@slazer and nun

I think they were only considering that because some bigshot investor was threatning some type of take over where Sony wasnt pleased about hearing. They want to divide their assets to protect them w/o losing too much control on them.

badz1493953d ago

those line used to produce the PS2 is not going to do nothing now, is it?

Death3952d ago

Sony is selling off quite a bit. They sold off their award winning world headquarters in Japan and the hq in the U.S. for 4 billion so they could post about a 1 billion profit this year. Had they not, they would have lost over 3 billion.

There is a reason Sony did not design the PS4 hardware and instead went to AMD like Microsoft. The higher specs at lower costs is not accurate, both systems use an AMD Jaguar CPU and an AMD 7000 series derived GPU. They both have a Blu-ray drive and 8 gigs of RAM. The performance difference is due to the different RAM used by each. Sony went with GDDR5 which is GPU RAM and Microsoft went with DDR3 CPU ram and added a buffer to increase speed. The "raw" power of the PS4 looks better on paper since GPU ram is faster, but there are latency issues that prevent GDDR5 from being used for CPU's. For a CPU, DDR3 is much more efficient. Neither console has better ram since neither is ideal for a combined CPU/GPU configuration.

Slim is nice, but airflow is nicer. We will have to wait and see if the compact PS4 is better than the more spacious XboxOne. Both are PC based and the best PC's are not slim in any way. If the PS4 runs hot, the pen and paper power everyone is using to determine it's specs will need to be scaled back in order to run cool enough. Only time will tell.

These two consoles are all but identical right now. Both have the same specs and hardware. Both have paid online. Neither has the dreaded DRM that would have made gaming better or worse depending on your perspective. The only thing seperating them is the games. If you are not making your decision based on games, you are deciding for the wrong reason.

As far as lower cost, what are you comparing? As we get closer to launch, both are going to be priced pretty close to another. The $399 launch PS4 is all but "sold out" and being replaced by forced bundles. Being to buy a game or controller you don't want isn't much different than buying a camera you don't want.

N4Flamers3952d ago

@death.

I think you overlooked that the ps4 has the better gpu 1.8 tf vs x1 at 1.2. The other thing people freaking forget all the time is that the x1 runs 3 separate operating systems at once. This puts a strain on their already slower ram. They've allocated 3 gigs of ram for this where as sony is only using 1.

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josephayal3953d ago

the kraken is on the reacta

GribbleGrunger3953d ago

I think it's a given that Sony can manufacture more consoles than MS considering the yield problems but I don't think it's just because of that Sony are doing this. I think what Sony are doing is channelling more consoles through Gamestop, making them the primary source. There will probably be less stock going through none gaming sources such as Walmart or ASDA.

thehitman3953d ago

I just believe the more consoles that are pre-ordered the more stock Sony can prepare for during launch and I believe Sony wants to meet total demand. They are probably revving up the production like crazy atm. Its just good business sense to ship as many as possible and capitalize on the lead they have in terms of hype and demand.

dmeador3953d ago

@hitman

Thats not really true. Companies are very careful about the amount of product they have out there. In a perfect world they would have the exact amount they need to sell. Every unit that isnt sold has a cost attached to it. Game Stop knows this as well. Its a complex guessing game

thehitman3953d ago

@dmeador

Yes good point but having pre-order helps eliminate that guessing of what the demand is. I know that not everyone who pre-orders will follow through but its the ultimate measurement test that Sony can get and will ever get when it comes to demand. After launch they wont be able to gauge what the demand will be so they dont want to under shoot the demand potentially giving the competition sales due to lack of availability. When it comes to consoles they will be selling lot hotcakes throughout the first 3 months nov-january so its very hard to over shoot supply in Sony case.

cervantes993953d ago

By Kraken I assume you mean Mark Cerny's beautiful beast - wait that may have sounded wrong :)

FamilyGuy3953d ago

With everyone distracted by GameStop having so much in stock hopefully I can walk in on launch day and get mine from Walmart. Walmart isn't currently accepting Site-to-store pre-orders, only pre-orders that deliver it to your house, and I don't want it sitting on my damn doorstep lol.

I'm adamant about walmart because I get a 10% discount there making my total cost $392.36, that's with tax included.

SIX3953d ago

Looks like Sony nailed production.

Oldman1003952d ago

They seem to have nailed everything so far!

3-4-53953d ago

I see what they did here. Smart move.

Now that XB1 is a better option than it previously was Sony is thinking maybe some of the people might go with XB1 because they couldn't pre-order PS4..

This way....if the only reason they were getting an XB1 is because PS4 pre-orders were full....this cancels that out.

They want to take advantage of the hype going on right now before it settles a bit.

showtimefolks3953d ago

the gamestop in my area is getting 65 ps4's and 8 xbox one's

as of 4 days ago 61 ps4 were pre ordered

nosferatuzodd3953d ago

lol they don't really want me to unleash the dragon

Enigma_20993953d ago

@indysurfn

I'm sorry, but yeah. That's common sense. The only way you can play an online game is with an internet connection. I hate to sound like a Microsoft apologist, but the thing here is that they're not, to my knowledge, requiring an internet connection for ALL games. As in, you won't have to be online to authenticate the game before you play it.

DOOMZ3953d ago

XBOXONE pre orders are open now as well, awesome!

MRMagoo1233953d ago

yay the 7 MS have ready to be made will sell like hot cakes

Themba763953d ago

the kraken one of my favorite drinks.

MRMagoo1233953d ago

if you mean that newish rum i would have to say no , i had a whole bottle of that stuff and it did nothing to me considering the price i was pissed off and will stick to wild turkey from now on.

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Arai3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

Maybe there were some truth to those 16m shipment DigiTimes reported after all?
This is rather interesting because it seems like there is an unlimited supply, which is great news for gamers obviously.

Global launch and domination inbound?
The stars certainly are aligned for the PS4.

http://alien.untergrund.net...

kneon3953d ago

What I think this means is that yields are good enough that they can fulfill any pre-orders. And pre-orders are good enough that they are willing to ramp up production.

MegaMohsi3953d ago

wow looks like quantity won't be an issue for Sony this holiday saeson

Testfire3953d ago

Good news, it means scalpers on Ebay can suck it lol.

MWong3953d ago

Man that reminds me of the outrageous prices on the current gen consoles during the holidays and the Ebay scalpers.

LordHiggens3953d ago

Hey...people will pay what people will pay for...

I simply offer the product at a price...I make the delivery and receive payment.

With this news though...it's certainly sad to hear for my wallet.

Armyntt3953d ago

I do it with every single console release. I personally preordered 6 PS4's. Only 3 at first but demand went up so I did so with my preorders. I also have 4 X1's. If they dont sell worse case i return with full refund. Its free money.

Consoldtobots3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

lol keep it up geniuses, soon you will be getting hit with a summons by your local cockroaches for doing business as a reseller without paying them off first.

Mikelarry3953d ago

just hope i get mine on time no delays

ginsunuva3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

Stop feeding the troll below me. I whoever actually replies to him is stupider than pisquounet, himself.

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GameStop Boss Says Disc Drives Should Be Required On Game Consoles

"It would be great if people had to buy more of the thing," says guy who makes money selling the thing.

XiNatsuDragnel224d ago

Absolutely consoles needs disc drives.

wesnytsfs224d ago

Nah should be optional. Not a PS fan but I like their strategy of selling an optional external optical drive. Its all about Options and this will let everyone get their way. Cheaper for digital only and then you can chose to pay more for the optical drive if that is important to you.

Profchaos224d ago

That's not official yet it's only a rumour

Eonjay224d ago

@Profchaos

But what he describes already exists in the 2 base models. If it is a rumor you can blame Microsoft for really backing it in court but if we are honest we all know it's true.

Profchaos224d ago

@Eonjay I'm not denying the appeal of it I can see it being a useful mechanism for allowing gamers to upgrade as needed however until there's concrete proof and not speculation and remember ms still bases that court submitted document off of the same leaks we see on Reddit, 4chan etc I just can't believe it.

The system would be further opened to exploitation and they would need to release an overpriced drive for consumers to buy for it and sure as they do we will hear complaints over the cost of it

ChasterMies223d ago

Absolutely consoles don’t need disc drives. My house has 2 PS5 digital editions, one since launch. Zero issues with the lack of disc drives. In fact, the digital purchasing lets us all share each other’s games, usually mine, and play the same game at the same time on-line.

shadowT224d ago

Optional drives would be best strategy.

-Foxtrot224d ago

If they did then collectors wouldn’t be getting f***** over with discless collectors editions

jeromeface223d ago

yea they would, discs cost extra... even when you're already paying a premium

-Foxtrot223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

Lmao

We are paying roughly the same now without the discs. There’s literally collectors editions which are roughly in the same price range that have a disc.

I’d rather pay a little more for something physical anyway

RupeeHoarder224d ago

No shock, GameStop is alive because of trading. If they don't have used games on their shelves they are absolutely donezo.

darthv72224d ago

Well of course the GS boss thinks this... that's their bread and butter business. That and funco pops and clothing, though those two were added as a means to supplement the decline in people buying used games or even new games. GS just sucks overall when it comes to gaming. I buy my physical stuff on Amazon or Best Buy.

As for "requiring" disc drives... nah. Not anymore, but i like having them as an option. They had a means back when games actually ran off the discs and were more/less complete. Now they are incomplete and the disc is really an installer with a license to play. If you want to change games you have to take out the disc and put in another. Its more convenient to just use digital. I have been into digital for years now and when the PSPortal comes along i wont even have to go into my game room. I will just play my PS5 from my couch downstairs. I have a bunch of digital installed games to my 5... I'm all set.

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Xbox Series X owners can effectively grab a 'free' PlayStation 5 right now

Gamingbible writes: "Luckily, if you’re living in the US you can trade your Xbox into Gamestop, where you’ll receive a hefty amount of cash as well as a $50 bonus for certain customers, just short of enough to buy the PS5."

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Jin_Sakai253d ago

A good deal for those who want a console with games.

S2Killinit252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

Lol well, we tried. But you cant save a person from drowning if they wanna hold on to their fur coat.

Im kidding off course.

Hypertension140252d ago

@Julion0715 @ichdich

So you guys won't change consoles?, give me reasons.

Your answers will probably explain why I'm so f**cking pissed off at Microsoft for buying two large mulitplatform publishers.
It isn't easy right? but you guys don't care because is not happening to you.

Lightning77252d ago

No thank you? N4G won't stand for this blasphemy!

SF releases next month hopefully that should give ppl incentive to keep their console. I know there's PC you can play there to but not everyone wants to play on PC.

Rockstar252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

@Hyper,

My guess is they love either their piece of plastic, their corporate overlords or gaming on the cheap.

Likely a combination...

itsmebryan252d ago

@hyper
Gamepass and I have a gaming PC so, I can play all the Sony "exclusives " at a higher frame rate and graphical fidelity. Why would I trade my Xbox for PS5.

After adding ABK they will have even more games at a great value.

Lexreborn2252d ago

@bryan

By that same logic what would be the point of having an Xbox? If you have a pc that handles both ps5 and Xbox games you don’t need either.

Rockstar252d ago

@ Lex,

Bringing logic into it?
That's low!

itsmebryan252d ago

@lex
I got my gaming PC last year to replace my old PC and I already had a XSX. It's pretty simple.
So, Zero horizon was disappointing and Spiderman/ miles ( got both for $50)are just ok. I might get R&C when it goes on sale.

Zhipp252d ago

@Hypertension
If I had time for a PS5 I would have bought a PS5 by now. I intend to someday, but at the moment my backlog is too big. Not only would I have to trade in all my games (for pennies on the dollar) and rebuy them for PS5, but Xbox actually finally has some exclusives coming out in the near future that interest me. I'll get a PS5 whenever Naughty Dog's next game comes out, at the latest.

fr0sty252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

@itsme

"I can play SOME the Sony "exclusives " years later. Some of them run better, some run worse." - Fixed

MrNinosan251d ago

@bryan
Your logic is amazing.
Not even close to all the Playstation games is being released on PC, and if they are, it's years past release, and often in a state when PC masterrace people cries anyways.
By logic, you should have a PS5, a PC and maybe a Switch if you're into that crap.

Especially as 100% of the Xbox games is also release on the PC, day and day.

Toncsipapa251d ago

Obsivously you get dislikes on this ps fanbooooy page :D

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Rockstar252d ago

@Jin

Judging by the replies here some of these people don't prefer games :).

On topic, I wish I could trade in my xbsx for a steam deck!

Julion0715252d ago

Then sell the x and get a steam deck 🤦🏾‍♂️

Rockstar252d ago

Why didn't I think of that?
Thanks for the tip! /s

goldwyncq252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

What games? FFXVI is the only true exclusive PS5 has right now and that's going to PC eventually too.

itsmebryan252d ago

@jin-Sakai
What games are you looking forward to this year?

Jin_Sakai252d ago

Spider-Man 2 and there’s plenty of great games to play that released over the years. Can’t say the same for Xbox.

DarXyde252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

There's a pretty decent slate of games coming out this year for all platforms. Armored Core looks great, Mortal Kombat 1 looks great, the info we're getting on Tekken 8 has me thinking it's coming this year. Sea of Stars can't be slept in either. If we're just talking about PlayStation games, Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade are expected to release this year and both look great.

I believe jin-sakai has an Xbox Series X (I could be wrong), but I reckon they're interested in those games, along with Starfield. That aside, Mario Wonder, Super Mario RPG, Star Ocean, and Suikoden I and II are all very welcome titles for the rest of the year.

I think no matter what platform you're playing on, there's enough there to generate a backlog.

EDIT: How the hell did I forget Lies of P? 🤡

shinoff2183251d ago

Darxyde

"Starfield. That aside, Mario Wonder, Super Mario RPG, Star Ocean, and Suikoden I and II"

Enough said. That's my game slate for the rest of the year.

DarkkMinion252d ago

That ain't a deal at all. Trading in a beast of a console for that, I don't think so.

Jin_Sakai252d ago

It’s a beast alright. Lol

“Digital Foundry about XSX teraflops advantage : It's kinda all blowing up in the face of Xbox Series X“

Jin_Sakai252d ago

All these “No thank you” comments from duplicate accounts. Lol

Christopher252d ago

I mean, I wouldn't trade in one console for another but instead buy both, prioritizing one over the other based on games I like.

Jin_Sakai251d ago

That would be the obvious choice but some might only be able to afford one or the other. And you have fans who will only support their console of choice regardless.

FinalFantasyFanatic251d ago (Edited 251d ago )

The PS5 is a better deal in the end, I really can't see the appeal of sticking with the Xbox.

DOMination-251d ago

"A good deal for those who want a console with games."

Like what? After all that bravado, the only game you could name was one that isn't out yet (Spider-Man 2)

Don't get me wrong, the XSX lineup in pathetic. But lets not pretend that the PS5 is any better. You can count the number of console exclusives for both on one hand.

If you're looking at games announced with release windows, there's only one console to get as it stands if you want games and it's not the PS5.

Jin_Sakai251d ago

PS5 has one slow year yes but they will start pumping out games soon and everyone knows the quality of their first party games are unmatched.

shinoff2183251d ago

Did the Xbox get any legend of heroes games, alot of jrpg type games skip the Xbox so unless your not into those types of games Xbox isn't a good choice at all. Alot of us from what I see have stuck with sony for the longest because they've had a great jrpg catalogue from 3rd party developers that xbox just can't touch. Those of us that enjoy alot of different games will get both consoles , I bought my series x about two weeks ago for starfield. It will only get used for a game here or there, most likely anything rpg related.

crazyCoconuts251d ago

Hard to tell who are in the Xbox Ambassador program from some of these comments. But for the masses, the console sales numbers are telling us which way the winds are blowing. XBox is in an important/pivotal moment right now imo

The_Blue251d ago

It's cool, I'll stick with my Xbox.

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Elda252d ago

At this point in time If I didn't own a PS5 I would have done this in a heartbeat but I had already acquired a PS5 first before I acquired an XBSX.

darthv72252d ago

I'll stick to keeping both. Gamestop though... seems kind of desperate to take in Series X units. What could they be plotting???

Eonjay252d ago

Almost certainly their plan is to charge obscenely high prices for a used Xbox.

myfathersbastard252d ago

They make pure profit on used consoles. They don’t share any of it. And they’re generally only like $50-$100 cheaper than new.
So they “sell”a PS5, make their small cut from that. Then sell the refurbished Xbox and get to keep all of it. It’s win win. They get a small cut on PS5, and a large cut from the Xbox.

Profchaos251d ago

Could be two fold sell as much base ps5 stick before the slim or pro drop and resell the xsx for those after a starfeild machine

jznrpg251d ago

PS gamers buy games number one. And they make money off used consoles. It’s a double benefit for them

Charlieboy333251d ago

Collecting more Series X consoles to sell on to MS for the cloud

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Lexreborn2252d ago

I just want some games for my series X I have both since release and after weighing the offerings in PS Essentials to Gamepass I quickly realized I Owned anything of worth in both catalogs. And, the things I didn't I didn't see as justifiable for maintaining both subs.

Since then my series X is a legacy machine that I play my old games on and that's it. 3 years ago I really thought from that Xbox showcase we were going to have some great games by now. Instead, it's just been a lot of meh

Chevalier252d ago

Yep. That's why I waited this generation to have a reason to buy the Series X. Got horribly burnt buying the Xbox One because I decided they had games I was interested in then they canceled the games I wanted right after.

Was tempted after they had that great showing awhile back and am glad I waited because it would have collected dust for 2 years otherwise. Couple games out and on the horizon that look pretty good. Might be a good purchase in a couple years.

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GameStop CFO to Resign in Latest Executive Departure From Retailer

GameStop’s chief financial officer is resigning, in the latest of several executive departures from the video game retailer.