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Sony Throws GameStop a Bone -- but Will It Be Enough?

GameStop appears initially to have caught a break with Sony.

Unlike Microsoft's restrictive Xbox One, where publishers will have more say in the way that their games are or are not able to be transferred between players, Sony made it a point on Monday night to emphasize that PS4 buyers will be able to trade in, sell, or lend their disc-based games.

Conan-O-Brady3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

@ 1:30 in the video, What the hell? "The PS3 has been a forgotten console that allowed the Xbox 360 to overrun the market, and the Wii had the small little lower end family based market."

He also thinks that devs are gonna flock to MS's DRM machine thus forcing gamers to do the same. As if we can't influence devs by purchasing a DRM free console and saying this is where we'll be if you want us to purchase your games you'll follow us and not the other way around.

I think this guy may be high or something.... SMFH

# @adam_orth, Sony dealt with it...lol

phantomexe3962d ago

really he is on something. There is 0 chance i will ever pick up and xbox unless all the crap which i won't repeat because i think everyone knows now, is left out.

dedicatedtogamers3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

Regarding Xbox One, something people are overlooking is the employee. The lowly, minimum wage or barely-above minimum wage employee who has to sell this thing and who has to deal with customers.

Let's consider four of the biggest retail chains where the Xbox One will be sold: Target, Wal-Mart, Gamestop, and Best Buy. In all four of those chains, there's a separate department for games (except Gamestop, which is the whole store). You think that minimum-wage employee is going to recommend the Xbox One when he/she gets yelled at - daily - by an irate customer that screams "my new Xbox doesn't play my 360 games" and "my new Xbox won't work because my internet is down" and "I bought this game for my new Xbox but now I can't play it on my friend's console" and "my brother in law told me I can't rent games for this system so I want to return it", etc. etc.

You think that employee is going to feel any sense of loyalty to the Xbox One? Hell no. Give it two weeks. After the first two weeks after launch, these employees are going to be sick and tired of hearing the complaints, so they'll quietly recommend (when their boss isn't watching) that the person buys a 360 or a PS4 or a Wii-U, ANYthing but an Xbox One, because they know the person is just going to come back and yell at them.

I remember when Gamestop sold refurbished 360s (during the RRoD fiasco) and my store manager simply told us to stop selling refurbished 360s because they didn't work, they'd come back within a week, and it would only piss off the customer. Similar situation.

forcefullpower3962d ago

@dtg you are bang on the money. Word of mouth around my area in the uk is that no one will touch it. I have come across a few people that were going to get it but they didn't know about all the restrictions. They are no longer are buying them and they are also telling everyone else. Its going round like wild fire at the moment not to buy the new xbox.

By the end of the year I think those pre orders are going to diminish.

jaredhart3962d ago

These aren't gamers and they are looking at things from a US centric view. Still really bad with the facts though.

seanpitt233962d ago

The only people that will buy the x1 will be the rich who will buy both consoles.

Narutone663962d ago

Looking at the link will give you a hint at what they are talking about.

DragonPs43962d ago

as much as I dislike the Wii it was and is market leader for current gen.

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Agent_hitman3962d ago

Duke you're drunk go home!.. You really don't know what you're saying..

MikeyDucati13962d ago

Didn't read article but came to say, I don't shop at Gamestop anyway. I rather go online and check out amazon or some local shop around the way. Gamestop is the last place I support.

JohnS13133962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

Now Gamestop can return the favor. This current generation most Gamestop employees seemed to push the 360 on their customers. Now they can push the PS4 on everyone. That at least makes sense since the PS4 will have more games they can sell used.

I can't believe the crap that loser said on the video. I guess Motley Fool is sponsored by Microsoft. What a dope.

gino93962d ago

When they say no DRM their talking about first parties. Trenton clearly said its up to the publisher and their relationship with the consumer. In a nutshell if the third parties say fuck u we get DRM on PS4 too. The question he was asked was no about online passes. Sometimes we hear what we want to hear.

LeCreuset3962d ago

Sometimes YOU hear what YOU want to hear. What part of the same as on PS3 don't you get?

rainslacker3961d ago

So far from what I've seen from both Ubisoft, and surprisingly EA...the two biggest publishers...is that they are distancing themselves from this whole debate. Activision has never really gone the way of heavy DRM in consoles. And most of the smaller publishers never bothered with it at all.

Publishers are throwing MS under a bus, the same way MS did to them by passing the buck, saying publishers could opt-out of some of their policies.

Some of these publishers may like the what MS is doing...we can only speculate until they say otherwise...but for the foreseeable future I think they will avoid heavy DRM like the plague, or at least see how well X1 is adopted before making a decision.

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GameStop Boss Says Disc Drives Should Be Required On Game Consoles

"It would be great if people had to buy more of the thing," says guy who makes money selling the thing.

XiNatsuDragnel225d ago

Absolutely consoles needs disc drives.

wesnytsfs225d ago

Nah should be optional. Not a PS fan but I like their strategy of selling an optional external optical drive. Its all about Options and this will let everyone get their way. Cheaper for digital only and then you can chose to pay more for the optical drive if that is important to you.

Profchaos224d ago

That's not official yet it's only a rumour

Eonjay224d ago

@Profchaos

But what he describes already exists in the 2 base models. If it is a rumor you can blame Microsoft for really backing it in court but if we are honest we all know it's true.

Profchaos224d ago

@Eonjay I'm not denying the appeal of it I can see it being a useful mechanism for allowing gamers to upgrade as needed however until there's concrete proof and not speculation and remember ms still bases that court submitted document off of the same leaks we see on Reddit, 4chan etc I just can't believe it.

The system would be further opened to exploitation and they would need to release an overpriced drive for consumers to buy for it and sure as they do we will hear complaints over the cost of it

ChasterMies224d ago

Absolutely consoles don’t need disc drives. My house has 2 PS5 digital editions, one since launch. Zero issues with the lack of disc drives. In fact, the digital purchasing lets us all share each other’s games, usually mine, and play the same game at the same time on-line.

shadowT225d ago

Optional drives would be best strategy.

-Foxtrot224d ago

If they did then collectors wouldn’t be getting f***** over with discless collectors editions

jeromeface223d ago

yea they would, discs cost extra... even when you're already paying a premium

-Foxtrot223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

Lmao

We are paying roughly the same now without the discs. There’s literally collectors editions which are roughly in the same price range that have a disc.

I’d rather pay a little more for something physical anyway

RupeeHoarder224d ago

No shock, GameStop is alive because of trading. If they don't have used games on their shelves they are absolutely donezo.

darthv72224d ago

Well of course the GS boss thinks this... that's their bread and butter business. That and funco pops and clothing, though those two were added as a means to supplement the decline in people buying used games or even new games. GS just sucks overall when it comes to gaming. I buy my physical stuff on Amazon or Best Buy.

As for "requiring" disc drives... nah. Not anymore, but i like having them as an option. They had a means back when games actually ran off the discs and were more/less complete. Now they are incomplete and the disc is really an installer with a license to play. If you want to change games you have to take out the disc and put in another. Its more convenient to just use digital. I have been into digital for years now and when the PSPortal comes along i wont even have to go into my game room. I will just play my PS5 from my couch downstairs. I have a bunch of digital installed games to my 5... I'm all set.

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Xbox Series X owners can effectively grab a 'free' PlayStation 5 right now

Gamingbible writes: "Luckily, if you’re living in the US you can trade your Xbox into Gamestop, where you’ll receive a hefty amount of cash as well as a $50 bonus for certain customers, just short of enough to buy the PS5."

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Jin_Sakai253d ago

A good deal for those who want a console with games.

S2Killinit252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

Lol well, we tried. But you cant save a person from drowning if they wanna hold on to their fur coat.

Im kidding off course.

Hypertension140252d ago

@Julion0715 @ichdich

So you guys won't change consoles?, give me reasons.

Your answers will probably explain why I'm so f**cking pissed off at Microsoft for buying two large mulitplatform publishers.
It isn't easy right? but you guys don't care because is not happening to you.

Lightning77252d ago

No thank you? N4G won't stand for this blasphemy!

SF releases next month hopefully that should give ppl incentive to keep their console. I know there's PC you can play there to but not everyone wants to play on PC.

Rockstar252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

@Hyper,

My guess is they love either their piece of plastic, their corporate overlords or gaming on the cheap.

Likely a combination...

itsmebryan252d ago

@hyper
Gamepass and I have a gaming PC so, I can play all the Sony "exclusives " at a higher frame rate and graphical fidelity. Why would I trade my Xbox for PS5.

After adding ABK they will have even more games at a great value.

Lexreborn2252d ago

@bryan

By that same logic what would be the point of having an Xbox? If you have a pc that handles both ps5 and Xbox games you don’t need either.

Rockstar252d ago

@ Lex,

Bringing logic into it?
That's low!

itsmebryan252d ago

@lex
I got my gaming PC last year to replace my old PC and I already had a XSX. It's pretty simple.
So, Zero horizon was disappointing and Spiderman/ miles ( got both for $50)are just ok. I might get R&C when it goes on sale.

Zhipp252d ago

@Hypertension
If I had time for a PS5 I would have bought a PS5 by now. I intend to someday, but at the moment my backlog is too big. Not only would I have to trade in all my games (for pennies on the dollar) and rebuy them for PS5, but Xbox actually finally has some exclusives coming out in the near future that interest me. I'll get a PS5 whenever Naughty Dog's next game comes out, at the latest.

fr0sty252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

@itsme

"I can play SOME the Sony "exclusives " years later. Some of them run better, some run worse." - Fixed

MrNinosan252d ago

@bryan
Your logic is amazing.
Not even close to all the Playstation games is being released on PC, and if they are, it's years past release, and often in a state when PC masterrace people cries anyways.
By logic, you should have a PS5, a PC and maybe a Switch if you're into that crap.

Especially as 100% of the Xbox games is also release on the PC, day and day.

Toncsipapa252d ago

Obsivously you get dislikes on this ps fanbooooy page :D

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Rockstar252d ago

@Jin

Judging by the replies here some of these people don't prefer games :).

On topic, I wish I could trade in my xbsx for a steam deck!

Julion0715252d ago

Then sell the x and get a steam deck 🤦🏾‍♂️

Rockstar252d ago

Why didn't I think of that?
Thanks for the tip! /s

goldwyncq252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

What games? FFXVI is the only true exclusive PS5 has right now and that's going to PC eventually too.

itsmebryan252d ago

@jin-Sakai
What games are you looking forward to this year?

Jin_Sakai252d ago

Spider-Man 2 and there’s plenty of great games to play that released over the years. Can’t say the same for Xbox.

DarXyde252d ago (Edited 252d ago )

There's a pretty decent slate of games coming out this year for all platforms. Armored Core looks great, Mortal Kombat 1 looks great, the info we're getting on Tekken 8 has me thinking it's coming this year. Sea of Stars can't be slept in either. If we're just talking about PlayStation games, Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade are expected to release this year and both look great.

I believe jin-sakai has an Xbox Series X (I could be wrong), but I reckon they're interested in those games, along with Starfield. That aside, Mario Wonder, Super Mario RPG, Star Ocean, and Suikoden I and II are all very welcome titles for the rest of the year.

I think no matter what platform you're playing on, there's enough there to generate a backlog.

EDIT: How the hell did I forget Lies of P? 🤡

shinoff2183251d ago

Darxyde

"Starfield. That aside, Mario Wonder, Super Mario RPG, Star Ocean, and Suikoden I and II"

Enough said. That's my game slate for the rest of the year.

DarkkMinion252d ago

That ain't a deal at all. Trading in a beast of a console for that, I don't think so.

Jin_Sakai252d ago

It’s a beast alright. Lol

“Digital Foundry about XSX teraflops advantage : It's kinda all blowing up in the face of Xbox Series X“

Jin_Sakai252d ago

All these “No thank you” comments from duplicate accounts. Lol

Christopher252d ago

I mean, I wouldn't trade in one console for another but instead buy both, prioritizing one over the other based on games I like.

Jin_Sakai252d ago

That would be the obvious choice but some might only be able to afford one or the other. And you have fans who will only support their console of choice regardless.

FinalFantasyFanatic251d ago (Edited 251d ago )

The PS5 is a better deal in the end, I really can't see the appeal of sticking with the Xbox.

DOMination-252d ago

"A good deal for those who want a console with games."

Like what? After all that bravado, the only game you could name was one that isn't out yet (Spider-Man 2)

Don't get me wrong, the XSX lineup in pathetic. But lets not pretend that the PS5 is any better. You can count the number of console exclusives for both on one hand.

If you're looking at games announced with release windows, there's only one console to get as it stands if you want games and it's not the PS5.

Jin_Sakai252d ago

PS5 has one slow year yes but they will start pumping out games soon and everyone knows the quality of their first party games are unmatched.

shinoff2183251d ago

Did the Xbox get any legend of heroes games, alot of jrpg type games skip the Xbox so unless your not into those types of games Xbox isn't a good choice at all. Alot of us from what I see have stuck with sony for the longest because they've had a great jrpg catalogue from 3rd party developers that xbox just can't touch. Those of us that enjoy alot of different games will get both consoles , I bought my series x about two weeks ago for starfield. It will only get used for a game here or there, most likely anything rpg related.

crazyCoconuts252d ago

Hard to tell who are in the Xbox Ambassador program from some of these comments. But for the masses, the console sales numbers are telling us which way the winds are blowing. XBox is in an important/pivotal moment right now imo

The_Blue251d ago

It's cool, I'll stick with my Xbox.

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Elda252d ago

At this point in time If I didn't own a PS5 I would have done this in a heartbeat but I had already acquired a PS5 first before I acquired an XBSX.

darthv72252d ago

I'll stick to keeping both. Gamestop though... seems kind of desperate to take in Series X units. What could they be plotting???

Eonjay252d ago

Almost certainly their plan is to charge obscenely high prices for a used Xbox.

myfathersbastard252d ago

They make pure profit on used consoles. They don’t share any of it. And they’re generally only like $50-$100 cheaper than new.
So they “sell”a PS5, make their small cut from that. Then sell the refurbished Xbox and get to keep all of it. It’s win win. They get a small cut on PS5, and a large cut from the Xbox.

Profchaos252d ago

Could be two fold sell as much base ps5 stick before the slim or pro drop and resell the xsx for those after a starfeild machine

jznrpg251d ago

PS gamers buy games number one. And they make money off used consoles. It’s a double benefit for them

Charlieboy333251d ago

Collecting more Series X consoles to sell on to MS for the cloud

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Lexreborn2252d ago

I just want some games for my series X I have both since release and after weighing the offerings in PS Essentials to Gamepass I quickly realized I Owned anything of worth in both catalogs. And, the things I didn't I didn't see as justifiable for maintaining both subs.

Since then my series X is a legacy machine that I play my old games on and that's it. 3 years ago I really thought from that Xbox showcase we were going to have some great games by now. Instead, it's just been a lot of meh

Chevalier252d ago

Yep. That's why I waited this generation to have a reason to buy the Series X. Got horribly burnt buying the Xbox One because I decided they had games I was interested in then they canceled the games I wanted right after.

Was tempted after they had that great showing awhile back and am glad I waited because it would have collected dust for 2 years otherwise. Couple games out and on the horizon that look pretty good. Might be a good purchase in a couple years.

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GameStop CFO to Resign in Latest Executive Departure From Retailer

GameStop’s chief financial officer is resigning, in the latest of several executive departures from the video game retailer.