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E3 2013: Are Microsoft Back In The Game? Xbox One shows some fight

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"The first cab off the rank was Microsoft.
Needing to regain some momentum after the pretty dismal Xbox One reveal, Microsoft needed to deliver a strong showing.

They didn’t disappoint. After being ridiculed about going on about TV throughout the reveal, Microsoft focused solely on one thing…
Games."

BadCircuit3969d ago

I think they did better, but Sony swooped in with a cheaper console without so many restrictions!

dedicatedtogamers3969d ago

I still think Microsoft dropped the ball on several key titles
- that hardcore game you bought Kinect for? Ryse? Yeah, it's a QTE simulator and now it's exclusive to X1
- Killer Instinct? Confirmed to be a digital-only free-to-play release. Only one fighter included. You have to buy the extras.
- where was this tremendous indie support, Microsoft?
- no gameplay shown for key games like Halo, Quantum Break, etc

Automatic793969d ago

IF you look at the Xbox One show it was much tighter and games was the focus.

Sony's system had more indies and 3rd parties games which is not a bad thing but truly the show was boring.

It came down to a few power points from Jack tretton that won the show for gamers.

Sony hid a lot things well yesterday.
1- In order to play online you have to pay for psplus. Something that was never done with ps3
2- Cloud gaming is not coming to 2014
3- The pseye attachement will cost another 59 dollars

This E3 was more politics than anything else. If you really look behind it MS really had the best E3.

HarryMasonHerpderp3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

"This E3 was more politics than anything else. If you really look behind it MS really had the best E3"

I think you mean policys not politics and policys are VERY important.
I'm not sure how Sony hid those things when they were displayed on a massive screen for all to see lol but yeah I'm guessing you meant they didn't talk about them.
It doesn't effect me personally because I'm subscribed to PS+ and I absolutely love it but I can see why other people would be pissed off about it.
I thought Microsoft's conference was great though. They showed some really good games but none of them are good enough for me to sign away my consumer rights to microsoft and publishers. So, it's automatically a no buy from me.
Also Metal Gear V, Dark Souls 2 and The Witcher 3 are all multiplats and they were the best games in my opinion. TitanFall looks good though.

DARK WITNESS3969d ago

If MS want back in, they need to learn from these guys;

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

JokesOnYou3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Yeah, of course they got some fight....every xbox fan I know loved the games they saw.

DARK WITNESS3969d ago

The xbox fan in me only liked QB, the rest did not do much for me.

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pompombrum3969d ago

If you take away all the things Microsoft done to shoot themselves in the foot, I'd say their conference was far better focusing mainly on exclusives. Microsoft though just made it really easy for Sony to win E3 and the cheers from the crowd at the announcements speaks louder than any of MS's PR spinster crap.

DOMination-3969d ago

I was following the comments on gametrailers and up until Sony started talking about their pricing and policies, the consensus was that their show was pretty poor. In terms of games, I think MS did do a better job but I was disappointed with both. Sony for only showing one new exclusive and MS for some more silly decision making. Sony connected with gamers right at the end and that's what most people are going to take away from yesterday.

pompombrum3969d ago

Spot on tbh.. Microsoft spent E3 convincing everyone they are all about the games. Sony spent E3 like they've always done showing everyone they're about the gamers. That's the difference for me this E3 and the deciding factor of what console I'm buying this year.

YNWA963969d ago

People forget, in the US, which matters, Xbox will be huge. This market is important, budgets are based on what happens there. Sony are still major, innovative too, and will probably sell more, but when games in the US sell more on Xbox and they are all new games, not trade ins, things might change. There is no doubt publishers are happy about Xbox, no one wants to be the bad guy, but someone had to do it and Microsoft did. Whether you like it or not, this might have saved the console industry, or we would be only playing cheap indie games on IOS only. The future looks very interesting, will end up owning both, not because I prefer on over the other, but simply I will want to play those games on other systems. As for this always on crap, can guarantee you most of the whingers here are online 24/7 with any device they have and it would have made no difference to them. Most will probably just be plssed that they would actually have to buy the games...

badz1493969d ago

Not to be a jerk but last I saw the XBone was in a mort after dissected. I think now it's on it's way to the grave!

BallsEye3969d ago

Did I watch same E3 as people here? MS conference rocked! Sony however didn't show ANYTNING except the fact you can trade games and no DRM. People just cheer about destiny on SOny show which is multiplatform, like rest of titles they presented. I'm disappointed.

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Majin-vegeta3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

They were until Sony came in and delivered the finishing blow.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/0120...

@dedi same here i can watch it over and over.BTW I heard the 3rd one is on its way.
http://www.imdb.com/news/ni...

Gazondaily3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

I think they are definitely back in the game as far as GAMES are concerned. Their showing was, in my opinion, far superior to that of Sony's in this regard.

However, the price point and restrictions will be a big stumbling block for MS.

Whilst I'm most likely going to buy both consoles at launch anyway, things like the price point do play at the back of my mind. I'm somewhat conflicted; if I don't buy both consoles first which one do I buy? The one that is cheaper and more powerful without all these over-bearing restrictions but don't necessarily have the games that excite me as much as the other console?

MS need to re-evaluate their position with regard to their restrictions and to a lesser extent, the pricing. But yes, MS backed up their words and really delivered the games.

gaminoz3969d ago

They actually seemed to have more exclusives, but that might be because we knew about the Sony ones?

Rusty5153969d ago

Yeah. If they waited for E3 to reveal killzone, infamous, knack, and driveclub, no doubt their E3 would have been better. But they needed games for their console reveal instead of showing a bunch of apps and features. So going all out for the console reveal and only having an average E3 did a lot more for them than doing what Microsoft did, and that's having a terrible console reveal with a pretty good E3. First impressions mean everything, and that's why the ps4 still has positive reception despite having a somewhat underwhelming conference. If Microsoft never screwed up with online and used game restrictions, it'd be a fair fight. But I like how Sony knew they didn't have much to show so used their competitors biggest weakness to their advantage. Very smart move.

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mcstorm3969d ago

@Septic I agree with you about the price. I was hoping for £350 max but the price is what it is. I really enjoyed the Microsoft E3 the games on the console for me out did the ones on the PS4. The other issue I now have is paying £40 on both consoles for online play. that £80 a year to play them online.

I am going to wait until early next year to see what happens between the to big names as I already own a WiiU and im sure Nintendo will also give us some of there big names this E3 so that should keep me going until I have saved up for one of the 2 consoles early next year.

For me the none used games and check-in was never an issue for me with the Xbox one its about the games they offer that I want and so far the Xbox one has been the one that has got me more interested but I am also glad the PS3 and 360 are still getting support to.

gaminoz3969d ago

I was surprised by the price...until Sony beat it! I think that's going to be a game changer.

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Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot10h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke194h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke1914m ago(Edited 11m ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf1h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor3h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave2h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor8m ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke1913m ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai2h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris1h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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