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Are people reacting too negatively too quickly over Xbox One

Since the Xbox conference, people have responded with many harsh comments and quick judgments. Perhaps they are true, we can all agree there were much better strategies for a reveal than what Microsoft presented. People as a society tend to hate change, and we get that. Most of the time when the gaming world "changes" it’s a terrible innovation that never holds the attention of gamers for more than 1 month. People in my opinion tend to accept change when they discover something they didn't know they wanted.

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NukaCola3978d ago

I think MS deserves this even if it gets harsh. If we just let it slide, it could turn into MS doing whatever they want(I mean they seem to be doing whatever they want anyway...but) as Adam Sessler said recently, it's not us being negative to be negative, it's us being critical because we care so much and have passion for gaming. We are fighting back because we want the best for the gaming world. This is why the campaign against DRM for PS4 is happening. People are standing up for what they love and MS will either listen to the gamers, or they can collapse for all we care.

rela82me3977d ago

I think that Microsoft is just taking a leap towards were Pc gaming already is. Software can never be "used" but I also think if you buy a disc that has been out of package you should pay less. I agree though that it should never be charged for you to buy a used game. I can understand trying to make it harder to pirate games, I'm all for it. Just don't monetize it and I will be okay. If you have to pay 1.50 or some insanely low price to repurchase rights and transfer titles to the software and perhaps redownload the game it would be a major injustice.

crxss3977d ago

Yes, but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it.

Blackdeath_6633977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

"I think that Microsoft is just taking a leap towards were Pc gaming already is." i think you mean "...towards where Pc gaming already WAS". to be honest at this point i don't have a clue what microsoft is doing surely if they are trying to leap closer to pc this TV nonsense shouldn't be there, right? also if you make it so similar to a pc wouldn't that make the xbox one irrelevant because you could already do that on..a PC?

hiphopisdead3977d ago

for sony's game console reveal, they spoke for 2 hours about games. Sure they'll talk about entertainment features and all later, but for their game console reveal, it was about games.

for microsoft's game console reveal, they spoke for 1 hour, about 15 minutes of it was about games. It was a waist of a reveal and that's why people are rightfully bashing them for losing focus. They should have instead planned a post-e3 presentation to demo non-gaming/entertainment features. but for a new game console reveal... they should have talked more than 15 minutes about games.

hiphopisdead3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

people comment that there are sony fanboys on n4g... but sometimes it looks so clear that there are xbox fanboys.

1. on Feb, sony spoke 2 hours about their next gen games, game features, ideas, devs were involved to share in the reveal, etc.

2. 2 months later, microsoft spoke 15-20 minutes about their gaming plans.

how can a gamer say it's not normal to have enjoyed sony's reveal so much more?

If you're not an xbox fanboy, and just an xbox fan... you should be able to say something like: "it was nice to see the system... but i'm hoping they'll show the goods at e3!"

anything else positive about microsoft's reveal for a gamer is getting into xbox fanboy territory... lol

JokesOnYou3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

Xbox fans are not worried about what every little blog looking for hits say, regurgitating the same old news, nope true fans go to xbox forums and give legitimate feedback, suggestions, complaints. Remember all these same scare tactics were used for the original kinect....ultimately the fanboys that complain about EVERYTHING, "its too big, its ugly, why cant I turn kinect off, [you can] oops, well I dont want kinect, I dont like the name, it looks like a VCR, no games [E3 will be for games] well its too late, I dont like the green box art, blah, blah, blah"= their constant trolling will be irrevelant come launch and beyond when millions are enjoying games on X1. Yep, with just a few corrections at E3 and better articulation of what their plans are, show us 5 or 6 awesome games and X1 is going to be a huge success this fall.

Boody-Bandit3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

I have to say in all honesty, per my name sake, that the majority of N4G users (regardless if they are gamers of all consoles or swing from one side of the fence or another) have rightly so been harsh on MS and it's WELL DESERVED. Only a small minority are defending the direction MS is headed with the X1.

MS, regardless of their PR spinning we will get into the games at E3, reveal May 21st was extremely boring and turned off most gamers. It was more of a CES reveal than a gaming console preparing to be unleashed for E3 and beyond.

We want games from our gaming consoles first and foremost. These TV, sports, fantasy football, social apps, etc, don't do squat for gamers. Yes it's cool, I guess, to have that also included but that isn't what MS did. They made it the primary focus of the reveal and even in the way designed their hardware.

Now MS gamers have to look forward to a multimedia device instead of a rocking gaming console. A multimedia device that has restrictions and fees that most likely (yes Sony I'm looking at you) no other gaming console will have for their consumers.

Personally I don't care what they show at E3 as far as games and I don't want to hear spin or potential. I want facts and I want them to loosen some of these restrictions or do away with them altogether. If not I wont touch their next gen console if it was given to me and I have been an XBL member since day one and MS hardware has been my primary gaming console for the past decade plus.

So no, it's not only Sony fans that are complaining, it's any self respecting consumer that doesn't want to be raked over the coals and taken for every last cent possible while having to deal with unnecessary restrictions and fees.

dcbronco3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

@hiphopisdead

You and other are acting as if Microsoft lied to you. They told you before hand what they were going to do. You wanted more games so you should have waited for E3 to watch. But since they did do exactly what they said they would on the reveal, maybe expect them to actually do games at E3.

I think most people just want to be with the crowd and complain. But there is nothing MS has done that Sony will not do or do similar. And there is nothing MS has bone that Sony isn't also going to do. MS is just as focused on gaming as Sony. And Sony is just as focused on media as MS. The PS3 is used more for media than the Xbox. All of the studies and surveys have shown that. People are just fooling themselves.

And Brutallyhonest why wouldn't MS push media when everything shows that it is a major use of consoles. The idea that it somehow hurts gaming is a joke. MS is putting over one billion into games for next generation they say. Since that is small change for them I believe they might. I will say I hope they aren't including advertising budgets, but I believe it will be for games. And I don't think Sony can compete with a budget like that.

Boody-Bandit3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

dcbronco

I don't care if MS put 100 billion dollars into games. They made hardware choices to make the XBOX ONE a more efficient multimedia device instead of given us gamers the best console they were capable of building.

All the rumors that people said, "wait until E3 or MS confirms or denies them" came true. Restrictions most gamers don't want and feel aren't needed. Not to mention the hoops they want us to jump through with used and rental games. I don't need to wait for E3 knowing that not only were the rumors true BUT MS actually built their architecture around multimedia.

I have been hearing wait on E3 for the past 3 years and MS focused primarily on their bread and butter 4 exclusives for their core audience (Halo, Gears, Forza & Fable), timed exclusive DLC for 3rd party games and Kinect over those past few years. I was okay with that because I mostly lived on Forza 4 since it was released. Now I wanted them to explode into this generation with cutting edge power and some killer new IP's. Instead they are focused as much, if not more, on it being a multimedia hub instead of gaming first and foremost.

I don't begrudge anyone that supports MS and their new device. Don't begrudge a diehard fan such as myself for not wanting these restrictions and fees. I will also add if Sony implements these types of restrictions or fees? I honestly don't know what I'm going to do. I might go as far to hang it up and move on to something else entirely and I've been gaming since it's inception.

The nickel and diming this generation has gone as far as I'm willing to take. I'm not digging even deeper in my wallet next gen and I don't have shallow pockets. It's just the principal of it.

Sono4213977d ago

Everybody.. hear me out for a sec, let's just forget about this "war" because it's not even a competition anymore and it's honestly not worth it to argue with some of these people.

If they are defending the Xbox One they are one of the following:

1. They're uninformed they don't know the facts about the console so they still stand behind it.

2. They don't even want it for gaming, they're only interested in the TV aspects of it.

3. They were hardcore 360 fans and will get the next xbox regardless.

So it is pointless to argue with them because in the end they are going to be the ones on the bad end of it.. if their opinion on the Xbox1 can't be changed now it will be after they buy it. I mean if they enjoy getting nickled and dimed for everything let them. Everybody else will be enjoying their PS4 and Wii U. Microsoft you aren't even taken into consideration anymore to real gamers.

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DOMination-3977d ago

MS do deserve the flak though for being so vague. Even if it's negative they should just come out and say what their policies are. Then people will be able to make a reasonable decision on if they will consider a purchase or not.

At the moment, I feel people are more frustrated than angry, because they just have no idea what the hell this thing does. There are mixed messages all over the place and it's confusing. Are people really that annoyed if it has to connect every now and again to the internet? I find that hard to believe, especially if they are, rather ironically, moaning about it on an internet forum.

More than likely, people just want to be told in black and white, clear and concise what it does. What are the policies. What data does Kinect use, etc. MS just need to do this and then it's up to the consumer as then they'll be in a position to decide properly. Transparency is key. But I expect MS will continue to spin their way around those issues.

NewZealander3977d ago

i have a huge passion for gaming also, i have for over twenty years, i also love new tech, and innovative ideas, and the idea of bringing all the things i love together in one box excites me...so yes i think far too many are being negative, and totally jumping the gun before we know the facts.

everybody is so wrapped up in rumors and half truths that they discount what could possibly be something great, the kinect always on thing has been cleared up so we can move on from that, as for the DRM i dont agree with it but ill wait till i have the facts, and lets face it if the publishers are tightening the screws then it going to be something all gamers have to get used to, not just xbox owners.

i think its important to stand up and share your opinion, if the people who are buying the console are not happy then the companies should be listening, but the fanboys who sit on this site and trash every story just because they want it to fail are pathetic.

im sure MS are deep in damage control, even though we still dont know the facts, if they want to do well next generation then they will have to be more accommodating to the consumers.

i love tech, i love games, im getting ONE.

titletownrelo3977d ago

Its necessary for loyal fans to voice their concern for the path Xbox One is taking. If we were to be quiet, then Sony would get the impression that we don't really care, and implement features like DRM. It's much more complicated than that, but its our job as consumers and GAMERS to provide feedback and explain why we are so pissed off with M$.

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knifefight3977d ago

^ This should have been the entire body of the article.

Redempteur3977d ago

NO.

No need to wait when you need to send a clear message to prevent a tragedy.

rela82me3977d ago

Either way the crazy pandemonium that has hit the web recently has given Microsoft's new console plenty of eyes. No one really is concentrating on good or bad of the ps4 because Microsoft has everyone's ear. MS didn't satisfy me completely, but I also didn't see anything to be so terribly upset. There are reasons to be weary, but until their policies have been fully explained we have no need to castrate MS.

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Count3978d ago

People are reacting too negatively too quickly over the Xbox One.

But the Sony fan boys of this website love that. They indulge in that. For them this is like pancake day every day.

Hicken3977d ago

How long should people have waited before reacting negatively? After the system is out and spying on you in your home?

It makes perfect sense for people to be up in arms at the first offense here. Though, actually, it's not the first offense. It's just the most egregious, to date, with some pretty serious and far-reaching ramifications.

The sooner Microsoft realizes they did something wrong, the more time they have to change it.

But Microsoft fanboys like you will defend the mistakes, try to gloss them over or flat out ignore them, giving the company the impression that everything's A-okay. Which makes it that much more important that people speak up early, often, and loudly.

Can't wait to see if you'll make another unfounded personal attack. I know you will. Wonder if you'll be marked for it...

marchinggamer3977d ago

They should have waited till e3 funny thing is the ps4 with either have DRM or be supported by no developers and have no games

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Why o why3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

I hear what you're saying edonus but I doubt the benefits will be like you say. They'll make more money, I doubt the savings you speak of will reach the end user...when does it ever? They all seem tailored to primarily suit them and not us.

Time will tell BUT if you use peoples over reaction to sony not showing the actual console at its reveal as a barometer; this reaction is pretty much justified.

Some people here, now screaming foul, were all up in those negative sonys 'non reveal' threads. Don't give it if you cant take it I say.

maniacmayhem3977d ago

"How long should people have waited before reacting negatively? "

Hmmm, well according to you in the past Hicken you should wait about a year. Isn't that what you were screaming at everyone when the Vita was being painted in a negative light?

But it's all different when it's about MS or Nintendo now is it.

Unfortunately Sony fanboys like you will forget just how hypocritical you are or just plain ignorant tools like yourself will just go around calling anyone a troll or a fanboy only because they share a different opinion than yours.

Maybe the sooner YOU realize this the better time in life you can have.

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Zichu3977d ago

Some people are acting irrationally, but then there are others that don't seem to see what is going on.

A video game console is for gaming. That's why it's called a video game console.

If a company that produces video game consoles and works so close to video games, is producing a device that restricts you on how and when you play your games, then they are completely out of touch with their consumers.

Before people jump the gun, I've been an Xbox fan for 5 years, I've been a Gold Member for 5 years and still am. I also own a PS3 and have been a PS+ member for almost a year now.

This thing just isn't right. The funny thing is, people will buy it regardless of how restricted they are. People want the latest devices as soon as possible. I'm not saying people who regularly post on forums who are aware of these restrictions are just going to go and buy one, they probably won't, they are smart for not doing so.

If I'm going to be restricted on something I have a passion for, I personally won't get it until it completely changes. I don't want it toned down a bit, I just want it removed.

rela82me3977d ago

I completely see what your saying, but it seems to me they didn't reveal a "gaming console" and that was their plan. People have been making game consoles for decades now. I think they are trying to do something different, so why not showcase why and how your product is different from what has been out for years. WE all know there will be games, and they could have blasted the conference with games. That would have satisfied slightly more of the community; but they want people to discuss how the new features affect them. I agree with the strategy they are going for, although now 100%, and I think they have a good running in the race.

MasterCornholio3977d ago

Well i just compare the PS4s unveiling to the XBOX1 unveiling and you can see why gamers were so angry at Microsofts event.

No one is overreacting its just the effects of a terrible unveiling coupled with the unveiling of anti consumerist policys.

CynicalKelly3977d ago

I still don't. Sony revealed a controller and played a few games on a PC..

Both unveils sucked but it's fun to see the fanboys sit and claim that the competitors sucked more or the brand they like didn't suck at all.

PiTCHBLaCK3977d ago

Sony was smart, they showed Games, new Controller and the PS4 Specs. The only thing Gamers really wanna see at a reveal. Believe it or not the Console itself is not what Gamers really have to see right away. The controller is important because we play with it and It's much different than the PS3 Controllers.

Also now Sony can show the Console at E3 Besides the games.
I See nothing wrong with their Strategy thus far. MS Already showed their entire hand.
I'm sure MS will show games at E3 too just like they said but we know where their Focus is at now.

pompombrum3977d ago

You do realize half the negative people towards the console are actually 360 owners right? You can tell who the "sony fanboys" are with their troll replies and stuff but there are many gamers here putting out well thought out and completely valid criticisms towards the Xbox One.

Baka-akaB3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

Why do you care about the opinions of sony fanboys to begins with ? Why not care instead about your own true feelings and those of fellow xbox fans (or even fanboys) ?

Instead of discussing real issues , and acknowledging that even fans from the same "side" are having mixed if not negative feelings , guys like you would rather waste time on bickering about wich console got the worst fans . or keep pretending it's only an hot matter on N4G

Anyway there is nothing as too quickly here , people want real answers and not to be toyed coyly with , over what they perceive could decide their next purchases .

MS could have just remained vague , until some given e3 date , wich would be fine . But instead they confidently tested the water , then keeps contradicting everything their own staff says

DARK WITNESS3977d ago

Too negative, too quickly...

Here is the thing.

This crap has been building up over the last few months as far as DRM, always online and all of this crap.

As for the lack of games shown, that has been building up for the last few years. Every year we tell ourselves wait for E3 and every year MS shows the same forza, halo, gears, fable and kinect kinect kinect.. They are a long way off from how they started out when they launched the 360.

This xboxone reveal was the final straw so to speak.
There are blind fanboys on both sides, but it's crazy the way people are defending them over this.

This is not about sony fanboys or xbox fanboys though, this is about what blue collar men are doing to our beloved industry.

I have been on xbox live for 8 years. I have owned at least 4 or 5 360's and 2 of the old xbox. i am or was a fan of the xbox but I am not a blind fan.

If sony did the same, I am sure the backlash would be just as bad for them.

jutt3977d ago

Coming from xbox fan, the one...blows

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titletownrelo3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

I remember during this generation of consoles, 360 users would bash and hate on PS3 users, while at the same time claiming their "superiority". Now the tables have turned as PS4's future looks immensely brighter than the Xbox One's, and now Xbox fanboys say, "Why you guys hating."

DARK WITNESS3977d ago

When this gen started there was lots of bashing on both sides.

Sony fans trashed the 360 right off the bat. Sony said a lot of arrogant things leading up to the 360's launch. 360 fans had lots of reasons to trash talk the ps3. sony made loads of mistakes starting off but you know what, they got the message and they made the effort to bring themselves back to what they stood for with the ps2.

MS have more or less made the same mistake, but much much worse in my opinion. As someone who was an xbox i keep asking myself what could ms do redeem themselves to that the point that i would consider buying the xbone and in all honesty I can't think of anything.

Even though I was an xbox fan i still bought a ps3 fat and I only sold it in dec when I knew this year the new gen would start.

MS need a miracle this e3. it's not just about showing me games. they need to change the whole image I now have of them.

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cyguration3977d ago

As opposed to waiting until DRM hits consoles like a ton of bricks and then nothing can be done about it?

HECK NO!

Microsoft is actually getting it pretty easy and hopefully gamers keep the pressure on up to and past E3 to ensure that these draconian measures aren't put into place.

There is nothing of benefit for the consumer having Kinect always on; there's nothing benefiting consumers with mandatory 24 hour check-ins or not being able to borrow or lend out games.

Just please, people, WAKE THE FREAKING HECK UP!

You're giving up your rights to use a box so you can watch TV on your gosh darn freaking TV. Seriously?!

15 exclusive games don't mean jack squat if 10 years from now you won't be able to play them if MS decides to shut the servers down like they did with the Xbox 1.

I just wish gaming media had the balls to do the research and stand up for gamers for once. Is it too much to ask for? Is it really?!

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Ranking the Devil May Cry Series

VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "Upon finally finishing Devil May Cry 5 recently - after it spent several years on my “I’ll play that soon” list - I considered giving it a fittingly-named Late Look article. However, considering that this was indeed the final piece I was missing in the DMC puzzle, I decided to instead take this opportunity to take a look back at the entirety of this genre-defining series and rank the entries. What also made this a particularly tempting notion was that while most high-profile series have developed fairly evenly over time, with a few bumps on the road, the history of Devil May Cry has, at least in my eyes, been an absolute roller coaster, with everything from total disasters to action game gold."

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VersusDMC4h ago

First to last for me...3,4,5,1,2.

VersusDMC3h ago

Me leaving it out should be telling of my thoughts on it. Better than 2 as a DMC game.

Still a good game though.

Friendlygamer4h ago

3,1,4,5 to me, never played 2. 5 gameplay is amazing but level design was really disappointing to me, just a bunch of plain arenas, the story felt like a worse written rehash of the 3rd and the charater models looked weird ( specially the ladies ). Another problem with 5 was that there was not enough content for 3 charaters so I could never really familiarize with any of them

monkey6023h ago(Edited 3h ago)

2.
Dmc.
4.
5.
1.
3.

God DMC2 was an awful game.
And in case this isn't obvious it goes worst to best

Yui_Suzumiya1h ago

1 and DmC. The rest are unimportant.

DarXyde1h ago

Order changes depending on your focus. I tend to focus on gameplay/fun factor, so...

5, 3, 1, 4, 2.

I really didn't like 4 but commend Dante's weapon diversity. The retreading of old ground was pretty unacceptable to me.

But even then... Still more enjoyable than 2 for me

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Unicorn Overlord is a tactical RPG masterpiece

Vanillaware's tactical role-playing game Unicorn Overlord is a beautiful mix of old mechanics and new-age graphics, with over 65 unique recruitable characters and a rich storyline.

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jznrpg4h ago

I have the game and downloaded it going to start it tonight and play it on the Portal.

NotoriousWhiz2h ago

Enjoy. This game is so much fun and so addictive.

jznrpg41m ago

I heard great things and I am a fan of most Vanillaware games so I’m looking forward to it. Waiting for my kids to fall asleep and I’m good to go

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Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Has Appeared On The Xbox Store

Activision and Raven Software's 2006 action role-playing game, Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, has found its way to the Xbox Store.

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LG_Fox_Brazil9h ago

Used to love this one, but X-Men Legends 1 and 2 will always be my favorites, especially Rise of Apocalypse. Would pay some good money to play it today with online multiplayer, back then I had no way to get a modem

RavenWolfx1h ago

Yeah, I loved the Legends games so much.

ZeekQuattro9h ago

I remember buying them dirt cheap on the PS4 and then a few days later I read they were delisted. I was wondering why the bundle was price so low and got my answer when that happened.

Knightofelemia7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Sad to say this is one game franchise next to the Xmen that needs a sequel. I use to play the hell out of Xmen Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Was great when my cousin had the OG Xbox play with four other people and then playing online. Great games glad to see it reappear even though I own the discs love the mechanics of this game.

Terry_B7h ago

It got a sequel..but for dumbass #reasons as a switch exclusive.

shinoff21836h ago

It looked so horrible to. They should've kept it similar to the first two.

Asplundh6h ago

Because Nintendo funded it, they did the same for Bayonetta.

Knightofelemia6h ago

I totally forgot about the Switch sequel.

jukins6h ago

Misleading. This page is whats available for people who owned the game prior to delisting.

Abnor_Mal6h ago

The first game was the best imo.