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Skullgirls for Wii U 'isn't looking likely' without increased console sales, dev says

Skullgirls, Zero Lab Games' downloadable fighting game, could come to Wii U, but only if the console's sales and "digital presence" improve, according to a recent tweet from the game's official Twitter account.

yewles13990d ago

By SwedishOTAKU on twitter.

""We won't put our game on Wii U cause it's not selling, it needs more games to sell." - I'm just sick of this excuse."

And yet people flip-flop and put the blame on Sony when similar situations occur...

colonel1793990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

I don't understand that reasoning either. The console needs games in order to sell, obviously since it is a gaming console. But developers don't want to put games on it until it sells.

It's like who came first, the chicken or the egg?

Developers NEED to understand that they MUST take a risk and release a game so that the console sells and they can get more games and therefore sell more. If the console does not sell, and developers don't want to make games until it sells, might as well just kill the console already.

admiralvic3990d ago

I know I will get a ton of disagrees for this, but it's nothing like the Chicken or the Egg. In fact, it's all pretty simple.

It's not EA, Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft or whatever companies job to sell _____ system, it's the company that owns the systems job to do that. It really is that simple, unless you think a third party company should constantly spend the money to make Wii U games, despite making minimal to no profit. That's not to say it doesn't happen, like Capcom was awesome enough to release Monster Hunter, but Nintendo needs to give developers a reason to publish games on their system, not step back in hopes they take the risk (which thus far seems to universally result in low sales).

admiralvic3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

In Skullgirls defense, this isn't a super big game / company, so it's not like they can afford to take a hit. To give you an idea, they needed a kickstarter just to afford to make DLC characters...

LoveOfTheGame3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Man don't people read those really long texts on paper, oh what are they called....ah books anymore? It's not a chicken or egg thing, it's precisely a Catch 22.

Not making fun of anyone or anything like that, it's just that the tweet was a perfect explanation of a Catch 22 and no one called it. Man I'm a nerd.

Edit: Maybe the chicken and egg thing is a Catch 22 now that I think about it. Still a nerd here.

admiralvic3989d ago

No one called it one, because it isn't... a Catch 22 is a paradoxical situation where you fundamentally can't win because of changing rules. It comes from the book of the same name and was about if I recall correctly, a pilot that wants to quit, but has to take a psych test to do so, but asking for the test proved he was thinking rationally, which automatically deemed his sane. There isn't such a problem here, since the statement is coming from a fan who basically claimed that was the message they were trying to convey. Clearly this is not the case, since there is more than enough evidence to prove otherwise...

- Skullgirls failed and the DLC was killed.
- A Kickstarter campaign was announced to fund at least one DLC character and happened to be EXTREMELY successful. Even with that success, they were very transparent about what we would get and what the money went to. I believe 5 characters were funded (contrary to the original offer of 3), a few story modes and a couple of stages. While they could use this money to fund a Wii U version, you got to assume the game would also fail as it didn't do so hot on two established systems.
- The PC version still isn't out (to my knowledge) and should be done when Squiggly (first DLC character) is out if I recall things correctly. They might have released it early...
- They claimed it takes several months to make 1 character (not a game, just 1 person!), so it would make absolutely no sense to port the game without the DLC characters and Nintendo fans would be irked if they were left in the cold once again.
- Need I really keep going?

In the end, you can also apply this concept to the consumer as well, but no one wants that. "I want the system, but won't pay for it till there is games, which won't happen because no one is buying it." Someone has to break that system and it should fall on Nintendo, not the consumer or third party companies. It's only their job to make the system successful, not everyone else's.

TheSkullkid3990d ago

Us Nintendites have Smash Bros. We don't need this trash anyway.

Blastoise3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

You don't though...unless you mean the Wii Version

BitbyDeath3990d ago

Skullboy doesn't need Skullgirls

Kiddcarter3990d ago

Nintendo fans like you are the worst, you sound dumb when your only comment about any non first party game is "we have game a so we don't need game b-z". skull girls is a good game first off, and just because Nintendo has a good fighting game doesn't mean it doesn't need more, not all Nintendo fans like smash. The more options the better for everybody

danitanzo3990d ago

He might not even be a nintendo fan... He might just want attention...

PigPen3990d ago

While what you said is true, I know I won't miss playing that game. I have never heard of them and if it comes to Wii U; I might try it out, and if it do not it's sour milk.

SpiralTear3990d ago

Hey, I suck at fighting games too and you don't see me calling this game "trash."

grimmweisse3990d ago

No, you need games for your system. Having games are better than having no games. The Wii U needs games!

Also trying to compare a triple A fighting game to an indie team working a tiny budget is silly. And seeing how well skullgirls was received pretty much show your ignorance.

BlaqMagiq243990d ago

Yeah what's that one called for Wii U? Oh wait it's not out yet!

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Dark113990d ago

Don't blame them people , they are just a small studio.

Jek_Porkins3990d ago

Sony and Microsft might run into the same issue at first, hard to pass up an install base of a combined 160 million, for an install base of zero right now.

sway_z3990d ago

Yes, but the difference is risk.

ALL the mainstream publishers are willing to take a risk on PS4/Next Xbox in spite of a zero install base, because they have better relationship with Sony/MS and are judging on how the systems have moved, and how third party games have sold (consistently) on the 2 platforms.

Publishers tend to work on trends, historical results and past relationships.

So the install thing is irrelevant in the case of PS4/Xbox.

It's not so Black and White Jek_Porkins.

Jek_Porkins3990d ago

I don't know, you've already seen hesitation by Activision, and Deep Silver said they would develop for the next Xbox and PlayStation "eventually". I think we might see quite a bit of hesitation, if I'm a mid level developer I want to make the most money, which is current generation.

Trago13373990d ago

More Wii u's being sold means more devs will be attracted to the system.

It needs a bigger install base. Same thing with the PS4 and 720/Infinity.

Let the Wii U launch be a lesson for the other two.

Launch with a Killer App, so that the Install base can grow faster, then have third party games released during those first party droughts, SIMPLE.

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Vits1329d ago

The dude was apparently a ass. But it is sort of sad to see that with that. Both creators of the IP will not have anything to do with anymore.

PurpHerbison1329d ago

He gets painted in a very awful light and he might not be a perfect person but he really got the sh*t end of the stick here. He struggles in social situations because of his autism.

calactyte1329d ago

I wrote my comment below without even knowing he was autistic. Yep it all makes sense. Ugh and it makes me feel worse for him.

calactyte1329d ago

I think Ziamont is just socially awkward and I think he probably doesn't know where to draw the line when interacting with pretty girls. I could see how the girl he interacted with was offended (what do your parents think about you being a THOT?). Mike's a smart dude, but that's obviously offensive. I think he thought he was being flirty. Smart folks sometimes lack social skills. Based on this one specific incident it's really hard to say this was anything other than an uncomfortable conversation where Mike thought he was being flirty and the girl thought he was being a creep.

Now if you're going to talk about sex (like girl on girl BDSM) with a male (any hetero-male especially a stranger) the understanding has to be on your mind that you're broaching a very personal subject. So when Mike got too personal in response how mad can she really get? Then for her to blast this all over Twitter embarrassing him and essentially ruining his reputation, is pretty disgusting. The punishment ought to fit the crime I'd say. Other male devs are going to see this as a cautionary tale. He would be better off not responding at all to any member of the opposite sex who opens the conversation about a deeply personal subject like sex then pearl clutches by a deeply personal question in response. The right thing to do would be to privately address the subject with Ziamont right then and there. "I'm sorry but I find your questions deeply offensive. I don't like where this conversation is going at all." Is that so hard? Must his life and profession be destroyed over this awkward interaction? I find what she did vindictive and incredibly over the top mean spirited.

With that out of the way, we have some proof that he had this awkward conversation and we have some other lady saying he's made folks uncomfortable. What I don't like is how thin on proof this all is. Anyway that's my two cents. I think these ladies are looking for attention. I think Ziamont is probably unintentionally an ass. That shouldn't be a crime punishable by death or character assassination, but I guess it's 2020.

To hetero-male devs when a pretty girl you've never met starts talking about sex the very first second you meet her, shut it down. Don't respond. It's a trap. If you're leading a company that makes millions of dollars you have everything to lose and she has everything to gain.

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calactyte1328d ago

It's ok, I try not to make fun of the mentally retarded. It's obvious you're a lazy, disgusting waste of life. LOLOLOL, ROFLCOPTER! So Sad! You could go on weight watchers or just stop drinking Soda. You don't have to be a fat ass your whole life.

You know I should go easy on you, it's probably really hard working the corner to score some crack for your whore mom. I'm sure you can't even walk straight once they finish with you.

How does it make you feel that I'm using you for entertainment? I guess you're used to being used. LOLOL.
Remember little Simp, when you hear funny sounds coming from behind the door, it just means momma is working. Roflcopter! LOLOLOLOL.

Knowing how angry this makes you brings me great joy. Keeping going!

sourOG1329d ago

Screw em. Go make another game and self publish this time.