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Our Gran Turismo 6 expectations: the game Gran Turismo 5 should have been - Team VVV

VVV: "But there’s a more pertinent reason why GT6 belongs on the PS3. While GT5’s physics were second to none in the console racing simulation spectrum, its numerous delays had allowed the competition to overtake the slow-moving granddaddy. And despite being in development for six years, many felt that GT5 fell short of its potential, with shortcomings that made it feel like an unfinished product.

Polyphony now have the opportunity to make GT6 the game that GT5 should have been. With this in mind, here’s our rundown of the strides we feel GT6 needs to make to catch up with the competition"

SynGamer3995d ago

I don't like the line "Polyphony now have the opportunity to make GT6 the game that GT5 should have been."

Yes, GT5 took over 5 years BUT, with the numerous updates PD released over the years since GT5 released, the current iteration of GT5 we have is the game GT5 should have been. GT6 will be a refinement of that with new features. PD had to build a new engine from scratch essentially for GT5 on the PS3. Since it's release, PD have been able to work on that engine, giving them more time to actually work on the game itself.

All I know is that when GT6 releases, ALL of the cars should be premium. If there are any standard cars I won't be buying it. PD has had more than enough time to incorporate a proper roster of premium cars. Furthermore, they NEED to reduce the amount of cars in-game. I get that they want to offer a bit of something for everyone, but considering the costs, we don't need 12 different versions of the Madza RX-x

jimbobwahey3995d ago

Patches and updates helped certainly, but they didn't fix the abundance of issues that many people had with GT5 to begin with. The game still has standard cars, standard tracks (Laguna Seca and Trial Mountain for example) and an utterly terrible user interface. The sketchy framerate and screentearing still remain as well.

Personally I'd like to see them drop the native resolution in GT6 down to 720p native (rather than the kinda-1080p GT5) to help the game run smoother without framerate dips and screentearing. I'd also like to see a completely new UI and career mode that doesn't suck.

Following that, they need to spend time on the visuals of tracks such as Trial Mountain and Cape Ring because they just look hideous. They need to pull all the standard cars out of the game too, completely. They probably won't have upgraded all of them to premium since it took them about 5 years to do 200 cars to that level, but the whole implementation of standard cars was terribly thought out, what with the used car dealership and all.

Larry L3995d ago (Edited 3995d ago )

I used to get screen tearing in GT5 until recently. I was just going through the menus for no real reason and I noticed a display mode option that was on "shapened" or whatever, I put it in another more and don't get tearing anymore. Though I've never noticed any significant framerate drops.

The other thing that bothers me, is that this article (and you as well) say the standard model cars were never upgraded. No offense but that is utter BS. The bodies on standard cars look FAR nicer now compared to pre-2.0. They've gotten continually better since 2.0. Just look at the first 2 images this article uses. Those are standard model cars, and really don't look that bad at all, and they don't even have premium rims and better paint updating their looks even further. Remember how jaggie the nose and body lines of that first car in particular used to be?? Now it's all nice and smooth.

Standard models have come a LONG way since launch, and that's just what could be done through patches. You're very limited in graphical upgrades you can make through patches. Those standard models could look even better with a game engine that's actually open for a new game.

jimbobwahey3995d ago

I said that the game still has standard cars yet you're claiming that's BS?

Either you're a crazy fanboy, or everybody except you has a completely different copy of GT5.

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Jek_Porkins3995d ago

As long as all the cars are premium and you can do a dash view from them all, I'm sold on it.

ZodTheRipper3995d ago (Edited 3995d ago )

GT6 needs a bit more than that but I'm sure Polyphony is doing it right this time.

clarkdef3995d ago

If you look at the history, the second gt has always been a lot better.

GT1 solid game, but GT2 had more variety.

GT3 Solid game, but GT4 had more variety.

Now GT5... The game does have good variety and is well worth it's price tag.

-Falaut-3995d ago

I always wish there will be a grassroots racing like mode for GT. You buy a beater and work your way up with monies that reflect real world automotive expense and supplemented with a regular, for example, monthly $5000 "income". This way, when you eventually have a >insert your dream car< you actually know how to drive it and deserve to drive it. Cockpit mode with a steering wheel remove feature would also be solid for the people with cockpit setups.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

SullysCigar423d ago (Edited 423d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk423d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account423d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk423d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood423d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer423d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood423d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk423d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood423d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa423d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit423d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic422d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit422d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic422d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin423d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721701d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1701d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1701d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1701d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921701d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1701d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1700d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21700d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1699d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821701d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1701d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1701d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1701d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1701d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1701d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1701d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1700d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21700d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1700d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1700d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1701d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1701d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1701d ago (Edited 1701d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1701d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1701d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1701d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1700d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811700d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1701d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1701d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1701d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1701d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1738d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1738d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1738d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1738d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1738d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1738d ago (Edited 1738d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1737d ago (Edited 1737d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1738d ago (Edited 1738d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1738d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1738d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121738d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1738d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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