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Sales Projections Indicate Sony is Giving Up on the Vita

VG Republic Writes: After Sony released their sales projections for the current year, it looks as though they have succumb to the same realization most owners of the Vita have already reached; it looks like it's time to give up on the Vita. As reported by CVG, Sony released that their sales projects for the rest of the fiscal year that runs through March of 2014, and their portable sales projections between the PSP and Vita are coming in right around 5 million units world wide. It's a sad truth, but if Sony isn't projecting solid figures, then they obviously know something we don't. Gamers have been curious if this would be the case with the Vita, as the lack of games produced for the system have been either ports or HD remastered titles, providing new experiences that can't be had else where few and far between. It looks like the writing has been on the wall and Sony is taking notice.

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NYC_Gamer3994d ago

PSV might be the last handheld released from Sony

Knight_Crawler3994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

You might be right.

I know allot of people on here down play smart phone and tablet gaming but you are blind if you dont see how much smart phone and tablets games have cut into the hand held market.

I said this before Sony announced the VITA and I will say it again - Sony needed to make the the VITA a hand held / smartphone device...we are living in an era where people want an all in one machine.

The PS4 and 720 will also rely heavily on providing more features than just gaming... laugh at MS all you want about them being a cable box/ media hub but MS knows what the majority of consumers want and they want a gaming device that offers tons of social media and entertainment features.

JoGam3994d ago

At E3 Sony should give a clear indication if they are giving up or not.

If they have a bunch of Vita news at E3 I doubt they will be giving up.

BattleAxe3994d ago

With Sony releasing their flagship smart phone the Xperia Z/ZL, I could see them doing more with their phones than the PS Vita. I like what Samsung has done by producing what looks to be a high quality controller for their Galaxy phones, and I think this is the direction that Sony will move in also.

zeal0us3994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

It really shouldn't be that hard for to make the vita's successor a hand held/ smartphone device. Since Sony already made the Xperia Play.

They could a build a modified version of android for the device base off the software was use in the Xperia Play.

Dedicated games could be stored on game cards.

Far as memory goes Sony should stick to mircosd and not those expensive vita memory cards. At then 128gb would be limit instead of 32gb.

SoC,graphics, ram, camera and display should be whatever is standard at the time. Top of the line hardware would be great but at the same time could make the overall device more expensive.

nix3994d ago

Before Vita was going to be released i was saying "please make it a phone + vita" but noh.. instead they shelled out Xperia PLAY (which i bought).

i'm loving my Vita but i still wish if i could make calls with it.

SilentNegotiator3994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

3DS is selling like wildfires burn dry forests.

It's not about the phone/tablet market, it's about price. 3DS cut its price by 33% from $250 (what Vita is at now) and it has sold like flapjacks ever since.

badz1493994d ago

It will suck a lot if only Nintendo is left in the handheld market. Sony is pushing boundaries since the PSP while Nintendo keep it low and play it safe as always thus we get a device a couple of gen behind in terms of power.

The PSP was way ahead of its time and the Vita now too. I believe that there is still life in the Vita and hopefully with more games coming, sale will pick up too

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yeahokchief3994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

I'm not worried. Love this thing. Really solid device. I'd complain about wanting more games, but I kinda have like over a dozen to play on my Ps3...

I was one of those who didn't really want one because straight up i don't travel anywhere, but its amazing for playing in bed. It's taking my laziness to new levels. Cuz sometimes I feel like gaming, but sitting in my recliner becomes too strenuous after 10-12 hours of gaming. The screen is so amazing and bright that you can play perfectly in the dark without needing any light whatsoever. I plan on trying to watch some movies on it later too once I get through all of the free stuff you can download onto it.

Already got over 100 hours sunk into Soul Sacrifice and still playing it beyond the Platinum trophy. The cross game/party chat works PERFECTLY. Used it in 4 player Soul Sacrifice and everything runs smooth as hell.

Looking forward to Dragon's Crown on it next.

It's going to be an interesting 2nd half of the year. A lot of things are still very uncertain with the Wii U, Vita, PS4 and 720.

And to give you a heads up. If you get a Sony Credit card, you can pick one up for $200 with a subscription to PS Plus. And you get an additional $50 the first time you use your card. And if you bought it in April, registered it and signed up for the referral program you could have gotten another $20 psn credit. That's crazy value. There's also a few ways to earn at least another $20 psn card via free sony rewards points if you figure it out.

So basically if you had planned on becoming a member of PS+ later this year you're getting $140 worth of credit for a device you're paying $200 for. I'd say this is the time to pick one up.

One thing is for sure. The worse these things sell, the sweeter the deals get for us who actually own the devices. I have bought 4 quality vita games so far for $10 a piece.

nix3994d ago

tell me about it... i'm so used to VITA and it's advantage of mobility, i want every PS3 games to come out on VITA too.

it's like carrying a PS3 everywhere thanks to it's amazing graphics...

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chrismichaels043994d ago

People said the same about the PSP and PS3. How did those systems turn out? Oh that's right, both of those "dead systems" are currently around the 80 million mark each. People act like Sony is new to the video game business. Bottom line.....Nintendo isn't going to stop making home consoles and Sony isn't going to stop making portable systems. These new systems just need time to breathe. Enough with the doom and gloom nonsense. I swear...some people on here spend more time talking about video games rather than actually playing them.

SonyPS43994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

Actually with the PSP you need to factor in firmware hacks. A lot of people bought PSPs to play their SNES roms, and they also pirate their PSP games. Because of this, PSP is one of the most pirated gaming platforms of all time.

PSP wasn't successful at all outside Sony's backyard. The handheld market is monopolized by Nintendo.

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dedicatedtogamers3994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

It's tough to imagine why Sony would do this. I hardly think that they're giving up on the Vita. Sony can't afford to give up on the Vita any more than Nintendo could afford to give up on the launch-flop of the 3DS, and look how Nintendo turned that ship around.

I would wait until E3. I know the PS4 is going to be on display. I know the PS4/Vita cross-functionality is going to be talked about. However, IF and only IF Sony seems to ignore the Vita at their own conference, then we'll know if the system is on its way out.

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moegooner883994d ago

SCEE's Senior manager said something about a big title coming to the Vita, I am guessing it will be announced at E3.

http://n4g.com/news/1251606...

Root3994d ago

Well I'd rather have them focus on the PS4 to be honest....thats just me anyway.

I'd rather them go all out for a separate smaller show for E3 just for the PSV. There's too much PS4 stuff to be revealed, I wouldn't want time at their E3 show being wasted on the PSV.

KrimsonKody3994d ago

Well,
The Vita DOES exist, & it is Sony's product.
I think there's room to showcase both.

Root3994d ago

At the same show.....

Nope....rather have a full show focused on the PS4, Nintendo had a separate 3DS event I don't see why Sony can't do the same with the PSV

hulk_bash19873994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

@Root

At the PS4 reveal they were really showcasing the connectivity features between the PS4 and PSV. So yeah, it's a good bet they will be highlighting both the PS4 and PSV in their conference.

Also, as a PS Vita owner, I truly hope Sony doesn't just give up on the platform. Because it does have a lot of potential and some great games for it.

MikeMyers3994d ago

Of course there's room for both. Sony would also want to utilize E3 to advertise Vita more. What Sony has also done, that Nintendo doesn't do with the 3DS, is market how Vita is a supportive device with the console. Does the 3DS have remote play? Does the 3DS have cross-platform play between that and the Wii U? Does Nintendo have a service like Playstation Plus that has free games for both the handheld and the PS3 tied to the same price model?

Tultras3994d ago

I'm sorry you're not interested in the vita, but 5 million other people are ( including me ).

But launching a product means that you support it.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies12d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken12d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga12d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken11d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6411d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12511d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91311d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91311d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit11d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher12d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit11d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher12d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken12d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2311d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder12d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Headline truncated:
"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades18d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken18d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades17d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii17d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit19d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos19d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9519d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia19d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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