PS4's Share Button Will Have Limitations, You Can't Upload Whatever You Want

"When Sony unveiled the next generation PlayStation 4 at their February 21st event, they also showcased the new DualShock 4 controller. It was a significant step up from the original DualShock, particularly in the new Share button taking the place of the Select button."

[TacticProductionz]

Well ofcourse...You not gonna share everything and anything!! That would just be wrong lol.

[gameseveryday]

Important point to be noted here is that developers can set restrictions in different sections of the game. In this way they will not allow uploading of those particular sections.

[PLASTICA-MAN]

"For example, on Vita, developers can in certain scenes disable the feature that lets users take a screensho" ?
That's news for me. I didn't know about it. Any example?

[-Alpha]

^ Probably areas where the game reveals spoilers?

[Nitrowolf2]

@PLASTICA-MAN

Yep.
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 on the PS Vita

[MikeMyers]

It's going to be hard to think they can actually control this. People have put up the whole game of Heavy Rain on YouTube. We live in the information world full of spoilers.

There are those who get off ruining the experience for others and there are also those who do this stuff accidentally. I can see why they would want to put in restrictions but it still won't work.

[creatchee]

I could see the share functionality disabled or limited in cases of music. Music seems to be a sticking point in relicensing everything from old TV shows to even relatively newer games because it isn't considered part of the work. In some extreme cases, particular songs are replaced, which definitely changes the original feel of something.

Also related, YouTube and other sharing sites mute audio or limit accessibility to videos that contain copyrighted music, so there's that to contend with even past the initial PS4 sharing limitations.

I understand why it's done, but it does kinda suck to have your videos muted or blocked. In my opinion, music will be the biggest factor that affects what is able to be shared.

[abzdine]

Every social media has limitations in terms of online chart and confidentiality.
It is for example not allowed to share some types of videos on YouTube or some types of photos on FB end those boundaries are set by the owner of the service, the same should happen with Sony and share because it is subject to so many standard rules and agreements.

I dont see that as a limitation i see that as a customer and developer protection.

[Blacktric]

"The creator may not want to make video of the final boss sharable, for instance,” Yoshida stated to 4Gamer.net (via Edge)."

"B-but you won't need an HD PVR with PS4."

Told you people to keep dreaming when you were yapping about how the share button was going to make HD PVRs obsolete for most users.

[3-4-5]

The best use of this is for GTA5...if it ever gets to this platform...

All the crazy stuff you did others can now see.

I've done way cooler or crazier stuff with friends in that game than 95% of the GTA4 videos I've seen on youtube...

* Find a cool glitch or easter egg ? Instantly uploaded!

[Dee_91]

@MikeMyers Well yea you can work around it using something else other than the share botton.But I think the point of the article was about the share button,not using hardware to record gameplay.As far as they are concerned it will work with the share button.They cant control what you record using something other than the share button.

Looking at that screenshot I can definitely tell PD had some input on the design of the UI.
I cant wait to make my own videos.But I know with this ALOT of gamer channels are about to pop up on youtube when ps4 release lol

[BitbyDeath]

@Blacktric, not many people have a PVR. Infact i don't know anyone who has one.

The share button makes this feature open to everyone.

[SilentNegotiator]

@Blacktric

You sure showed that one guy who said that one thing that one time that you're pretending was some significant sized group.

[SLEDGE]

My guess would not be "Spoilers" but more stuff like nudity, and m+18 stuff.
Or things like the Airport scene in MW2 that was a "OPtional" mission.

@Plastica-man

http://i.imgur.com/Q1dPa.jp... There are ofcourse work arounds :)

But as long as I can put it the HDD and retrive it too my PC, i'd bee happy about it.

[ThanatosDMC]

@plastica-man

Mostly Capcom games doesnt let you take screenshots. Really annoying.

[-Superman-]

“There will be parts of a game that the maker does not want people to be able to see. For example, on Vita, developers can in certain scenes disable the feature that lets users take a screenshot, and (the Share function) will have a similar mechanism. The creator may not want to make video of the final boss sharable, for instance,” Yoshida stated to 4Gamer.net (via Edge).

[Knight_Crawler]

Wait I am confused... didn't Sony announce that the PS4 would let you live stream your gameplay to your friends ,this way if you were stuck on a level your friends would be able to help you or take over and beat the level for you.

How is live stream gameplay different than the captured card feature that the share button will have - the content that the live stream will show is the same content that the capture card will show so why restrict one and not the other?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Yep that's a good point. Would kind of be silly if you can live stream but are restricted with what you can record and upload.

[MysticStrummer]

I'd say live streaming to friends who have a PS4 is different than uploading to YouTube or some other site, but I don't know how they'll control one more than the other. There will be ways to work around whatever restrictions they put in.

[MonkeyNinja]

I'm glad they're doing this, because I was worried about spoilers being uploaded from a game.

But this way, users shouldn't be able to upload a video that gives away a major plot point or who the final boss is, etc.

Didn't Sony also say that you could upload videos to Ustream? I don't think they said anything about YouTube, but I could be wrong. I don't think you can upload directly to YouTube through the share button.

[Garbanjo001]

There is a lot of negativity about the share button, and whether it will even be used. Personally, I like the concept. Sharing EVERYTHING is something I don't want to see on my buddies accounts. However, I do want to watch some people rage while killing a shit ton of ghouls on the next fallout.

[MYSTERIO360]

I personally cant wait for the PS4, this news hasn't put a dampener on my anticipation in the slightest. As MS has pioneered the growth of online gaming and apps for consoles i have a feeling Sony will pioneer cross sharing and the user experience in general.

[Arai]

It's to prevent spoilers in games so the experience isn't ruined for others.
Handy especially if you don't have the game yet, last thing you want is someone to ruin the ending for you.

[claterz]

if you don't want it ruined for you then you don't search for the video. its not like it will just pop up in front of you unexpectedly. Imo this is a pretty big deal as a lot of people were expecting a fully functional built in recording feature to avoid the need of an expensive capture card.

[DoomeDx]

The share button puts everything on your facebook wall. Dont friends love to post spoilers in the title :)

[NBT91]

On the WII U, you can upload screenshots etc and just mark any spoilers as spoilers, where they are hidden until one clicks on them.

The reasons that is not ideal is, you don't know how far in the game the post is. It could be the mid way point which you are at, or it could be the ending, no way to know until you click that post, by then it is too late. Plus people just forget to mark them as spoilers a lot of times.

As for your suggestion about only having the level name, even that is still not great. Imagine if MGS4 released on PS4 and people were reading the titles "Act 4 - Shadow Moses", thus it can still reveal a lot about the game.

I think that this way on PS4 is much better. There is no reason to be able to upload ending scenes. I think it is more for sharing goals on FIFA, decent killstreaks in an FPS, hole in one on Tiger Woods, you know the kind of thing? That's what I felt it was being advertised as, not really as a tool for complete playthroughs...

[Arai]

I read about this last night on NeoGAF, there's a whole discussion about it.
To those disagreeing you might actually want to read the original article and this discussion:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

It makes perfect sense, this "article" could use a better title.

@ claterz what about friends sending you a video, you don't know it's content before viewing it.

Nevertheless it's a rough translation, I'm sure we'll get concrete information within the next 7 months.

[claterz]

I see what your saying but using the example you gave, wouldnt't it be easier to have the system add the level of the game in the title of the video? That way you can decide whether or not you want to watch it, and the player can still have some freedom in terms of what they want to record.

[baodeus]

@arai

"@ claterz what about friends sending you a video, you don't know it's content before viewing it. "

If PS4 improve on connection/cross game chat/etc.....it is really that hard to add a spoiler alert/note on video that you send to your friends?

[Garbanjo001]

Exactly. I am seeing a lot of negative posts about the share button. As I said above I like the concept. I don't want to watch the next spoiler of a game I want to play badly. That's just stupid.

[jcnba28]

The Wii U has a function where you can tag your post as a "spoiler" before you post it on Miiverse so people will have the option to view it or not. I'm sure sony will have something similar to this with their sharing options.

[mcstorm]

Lol like how you got some disagrees because you said the Wiiu has a spoiler option. I think your right I see both Sony and Microsoft having options like this on there next consoles.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I think the disagrees are for Sony having a similar spoiler tag system. Seems like Sony will just let devs block content instead and thus avoid the spoiler issue altogether by controlling what can be recorded.

[wishingW3L]

so basically the share button is useless? Because seriously this kind of kills the point of it.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Yes and no. Yes from a video upload point of view since it will have limitations but don't forget the share button is most assuredly tied into sharing you screen play..

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Point of clarification. .. the button won't be useless. The recording video will have some limitations so for some that may seem "useless" but there clearly will be more functionality to it regardless.

[lodossrage]

As the article states, the game makers themselves will have the option to pick and choose what can't be shared.

[smashcrashbash]

Exactly. If the developer decides they want to keep certain things from people because of spoilers and such it is up to them not Sony. Once again the blame goes to Sony when it will be the developers who are deciding if they want to do it or not.For example Two Souls which is mostly story based Quantic Dreams might decide not to use the share button at all so everyone can work it out themselves.Others can decide that they don't care what you share and not use it at all therefore no restrictions. Sony is giving them the option and it is not a rule set in stone or Sony's decision. Why is it that Sony haters AND fans over react to EVERYTHING? If a developer wants to keep something from everyone that is up to them and their reasons.You don't read, talk crap, then wonder why you get disagrees

[Hicken]

Basically? How did you even come to that conclusion?

[ginsunuva]

Not sure if stupid...

[a_squirrel]

And here I wanted to upload myself dancing naked in front of the TV.
ANOTHER LIMITATION.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

LOL...can we agree that is a good limitation?

[a_squirrel]

Kidding :P

[vork77]

so they lied

[hesido]

I don't remember them claiming that everything could be shared. Most things will shareable, don't worry. It's for the good of everyone. Those that are really really interested in sharing spoilers can still buy themselves a capture card, if that was your main purpose.

[lodossrage]

They never said EVERYTHING was shareable.

Not just that, if you read the article, the INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS are the ones that make the choice on what they do/ don't allow to be shared.

[banjadude]

Besides people not even reading the article, it would seem these trolls have "selective memory" too. SMH.

[LoveOfTheGame]

Well in the same sense if PS4 let devs control whether their used games are able to work or not and then say the PS4 plays used games it makes the point moot if most devs make their games unusable if used.

Edit: It won't necessarily be a lie but more a way to cover themselves.

[SlavisH2]

This is another gimmick like like home. I will never use it, lol.

[AllroundGamer]

i will replace it with the Select button too :)

[Summons75]

yep, it will be popular with gamers and devs for the first couple years but just like sixaxis it will be cast to the side.

Anyone remember 7 local player gaming on the ps3.....oh right that got cast to the side too.

[Veneno]

How's that HD DVD drive treating you?

[kaozgamer]

ummm 7 player local is still there. quite a few games support it. nba2k and fifa series are among those.

[yesmynameissumo]

I love N4G. The levels of being incorrect and pretentious are laughable.

[Jek_Porkins]

Well hopefully people weren't thinking they'd be able to record and share every single thing, that would take up a ton of space. If you're a hardcore gamer who puts out montages on COD or Battlefield I'm sure you have a PVR, it still makes sense to get one if you were thinking about doing Youtube videos and things like that.

The "Share" function is probably set up a lot like the current Black Ops 2 feature is, you can choose to save a map so that you can go back and edit clips or whatever, but you can only save half a dozen or so.

[r21]

They could do that or just put a spoiler tag on the video or pic on PSN streaming thing.

[yesmynameissumo]

Good idea. Or remove any limitations when sharing directly with friends?

[objdadon]

I won't use it, you may not use it, but some will and that's why they did it.

[FAT MAN GO BOOM]

So glad that this is going to be in their... so many ass hats out there that would ruin games...

This pushes me closer to liking and wanting this feature...

[turnerdc]

Awwwwww, that's slightly dissappointing. OnLive doesn't have any restrictions on what you can record and share.

Some of my clips on OnLive do include cutscenes and/or the endings. Not used to spoil the game but just to record the "end" of my journey.

[Arai]

Devs might just disable sharing cut scenes, game menus or the ending of game.

Just sayin' take it with a grain of salt because I read the translation Edge and this website used and it's broken as hell.

Subjects are just touched upon when asked, but not discussed in details.
E3 is next month I'm sure everything will be revealed there.

[stage88]

Great news! No more spoiling a game when you look up gameplay before you buy.

[Omar91]

I knew everything shown in the sony conference was to good to be true. It always is for every company. I'm waiting for them to go into detail about the whole taking control of your friends game feature. It's not going to be "perfect" like some people believe it will be.

[Marugo]

But i wish this share button will be a mandatory for every game so that it wont become useless

[yesmynameissumo]

Completely agree. Set dev standards for the platform.

[Typical-Guy]

They did say all the features of PS4 are system centered. No need for Devs pitty to add features for us.....

[C-Thunder]

It's built into the system. It will be more work to implement the restrictions, if they choose not to do that, then everything is shareable.

[taquito]

sony, just try to be more like steam and you will be heading in the right direction

that's all anyone who wants to get in the game business needs to do

high lord commander gaben can show you the way to gaming nirvana

oh, also, but a better gpu in the ps4, and a WAYYY better cpu

[MysticStrummer]

Why do PC people bother commenting on console articles? It just makes you seem insecure, but whatever, have fun I guess.

[EffectO]

So Share button is just a bunch of hot air?

Devs having control lol,that will certainly end well.
"This area is full of glitches and crappy textures...no sharing"

But as usual,people with recording equipment will upload everything.Oh well..

[turnerdc]

Your example reminds me of PD not allowing standard cars to be used for photo travel. It would suck if devs did implement restrictions like that for the share button in their game.

[The_KELRaTH]

I suspect it will be much like the PS3's screengrab feature - it's there if devs want you to have it but it would seem most don't.

Features like these should be set to fully work as standard but with the option for devs to disable it as chances are the devs really couldn't care less one way or the other but just won't waste time on additional coding.

[isarai]

LOL this isn't up to devs to implement, it's a full feature of the PS4 itself, devs only have the option to disable it in certain parts to keep from spoiling which is extra work, i doubt devs would go out of their way to put in the extra work so you can't use the feature at all.

[The_KELRaTH]

I haven't read anywhere that gives full details how the screen capture will actually work on the PS4 as yet but the PS3 does have a screen capture facility built in but it rarely gets used as the devs decide if it's going to work or not.

[GraveLord]

Hopefully no spoilers.

[InfamousBlackGuy]

I'm beginning to think someone makes it their sole objective to go down the comments and disagree with everything. It just seems way too consistent.

[Majin-vegeta]

Just disable all cutscenes and spoilers.

[Hufandpuf]

They should have just put the share function into the system, not the controller.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

The share button is very limited. It doesnt allow you to edit and do voice narratives on your video. Gamers will get frustrated with it and use youtube that can do things better. IMO it won't be used very much at all.

[isarai]

I'm pretty sure you will be allowed to save the video to your HDD just like the few games that use video capture on the PS3. If not out the box then surely down the road with an update

[Soldierone]

Of course. Then Capcom will come along and make the share function of their games a DLC feature lol

[Relientk77]

Well yeah we dont want the PS4 share button to turn into the weird side of Youtube

[carlocgc]

facebook and social networking doesnt interest everyone and certainly not me. hopefully none of this functionality is mandatory. i hate games that need a facebook account to play.

[isarai]

when has facebook been required in a game? also it's optional to sync up your facebook account to your PS4, even if synced you can chose how much it shares just like on the PS3

[isarai]

LOL People really need to actually READ the article. All it states is not that it has set limitations, but that it has the capability to allow devs to limit it's use as not to spoil the game for others. It is completely up to the devs to do this if they want and IMO i'm totally fine with not allowing things to get spoiled. What would be better though is if "SPOILER" was automatically added to you video title when in these areas so when uploaded everyone knows it's a spoiler. Then again you could just do that yourself, and again it's up to the devs. I doubt the majority will restrict the use of the feature, it's not like there aren't already tons of videos on youtube with spoilers in them already, they usually always announce they are spoilers, so it's not an issue.

[jay2]

That's a let down, I was hoping to do walkthroughs but NO! Sony decided not to let this happen, but you can take over the game to hel..............Go to youtube anyway lol.

[isarai]

LOL seriously wtf are people getting mad about, Sony is not saying they are going to limit the share featrue, they are just saying it's possible for devs to keep from spoiling the game, it's just like how devs are allowed to disable music playback for custom tracks when you are in a cinematic in the game. i highly doubt many devs would block the share button in cinematic/bossfights as i'm pretty damn sure they know the nature of walkthroughs/lets plays and that gamers are more than capable of letting people know a video contains spoilers

[StreetsofRage]

Weak. Youtube already has tons of endings and cut scenes. Limiting this isn't going to stop anything. They're going to nerf this feature for a weak reason.

[Sarobi]

Wait so what if this only implies to a game that just launched?.. obviously developers don't want the story to be spoiled, but at the same time I'm sure they won't sacrifice the ability to allow content to be uploaded. I'm assuming that they'll just disable the sharing function for the first few days of a new release, and enable it after (that is if developers even care about this)

[ACEMANWISE]

It seems the PS4 is focusing on two things...socialibility and convienance.

Both are features founded on the ability to service those results.

I love gaming. Yet I wish progress was made without having services. The share feature should be an implementation of the game maker, not the service provider.

[KrimsonKody]

Oh, brother!
Here comes the Sony 'white lies' for launch;
PS2 - "It will have full online capabilities at launch..."
PS2/PS3 - "cough", EyeToy is not quite the best, must get PSEye for video/chat abilities..."
PS3 - "We will have voice chat at launch..."
PS4 - "There will be a 'share button' that let's you share videos..."
I guess if it's dyre that you have that feature, you should just wait for the PS5.

Funny thing is, I could'nt care less for the share feature. Definitely a cool feature though, but not manatory. My problem is that these companies always know 1st hand just how implemented these features will be, yet, they still hype you with the whole "yes! The feature will be there" talk.

[zoks310]

This will limit spoilers and many other things. Sony can't allow spoilers as a video game publisher, the same way they can't support cheating by creating products that allow you to augment your controller to make aiming easier or allow you to hit the actions buttons faster.

Also if they don't limit it, think about what could happen to sony and their relationship to movie studios once people start streaming and sharing their movies online free for everyone to watch.
LOL, the limitations are fair from a business and moral point of view, so no hard feelings.

[Drainage]

lol no more walkthroughs for youtuber ad sense people. lmao you guys mad you aint making money off peoples games ? hahaha

[Bonerboy]

Who, or better yet, what sites really want to be inundated with millions upon millions of peoples garbage "shares"? ...which will probably tally into the billions. " Oh I killed a guy-"share"....oh I cleared this level-"share"...oh I got a trophy-"share"...Oh I found a secret- "share"...Oh let me ruin the game's story for you-"share" Fooey I say!

Im sure the ps4 will be a nice machine but what a stupid option and waste of resources. Makes me wonder what similar rubbish the xbox will shove down out throats.
I'll consider buying one of these consoles down the road when the price isnt $500+ and the games really shine but right now this crap really makes me want to stick with PC.

[Lifebanisher]

like this can stop people from spoiling the game when they can just as easily put a damn camera in front of their tv and then start recording that final boss LOL it's like the gun control debate lmao.

[MAULxx]

I see no reason at all to limit the share feature. Limiting it will just decrease the value of it tremendously.

[Man-E-Faces]

Look at all these hypocrite fanboys in here complaining about Sony lying, half assing a feature, let me clear some things up for the knuckle draggers, share is ''BUILT IN'' just like x-chat is on 360. Furthermore where were you dummy's at when Dark Souls disabled x-chat on 360 did you trash x-chat or Microsoft? No you didn't did you, complaints were directed to the developer (From Software), so if you have a problem with a portion being blocked from the Share feature then let it be known to the developer not Sony. Another example I would like to share is Marvel vs Capcom on Vita screenshots are disabled and many such as myself were annoyed by that did I slam Sony for this? NO I knew this was Capcom's fault since this feature was available on other games, then fast foward on Capcom's next Vita game Street Fighter X Tekken screenshots can now be taken ANYTIME. Share is built in so if a game gets locked out from recording/snapshots take it up with the developer not Sony they don't have a monopoly on the industry to run it with an iron fist anymore and demand they do this or that or drop support for their games, Negotiations need to be made in order to have all parties involved happy.

[Ozmoses]

Obviously it's gonna have some sort of restrictions.. But, either way I am still enthralled by it and the apparent ease of use.

I can't way to annoy all my facebook friends with videos of video games.

[b_one]

its not about spoilers, its about Youtube players.

[busytoad]

Screw the share button, i just want the ps4 now lol.

[DivineAssault]

No wonder i couldnt take pictures of certain things in my vita games.. I thought something was wrong with my screen shot function.. I guess devs dont want everyone to make spoilers of things in their games.. That kinda sucks because im sure ill run into this "block" theyre going to use one day but no biggie

[bunfighterii]

I think it's smart that they don't let this feature become spoiler central