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Sony says PS4 price will appeal to gamers “in the broadest sense”

While talking about previous console launches and what they have learned from them, Sony said that the PS4′s price will appeal to gamers “in the broadest sense.”

Double_Oh_Snap4021d ago

This is very good news. Sony is literally hitting every note of a perfect launch. So people saying $499 are definitely wrong or maybe...

Sony may price it high, but take a note from MS and subsidize the cost with a subscription to plus. Thinking like $150 to $200 (random guess) if you subscribe to the psplus service for x amount of years.

If done right PS4 would sell a ridiculous amount. It will anyway I'm sure but if they subsidize the cost... Glad I'm preordering right away.

ApolloTheBoss4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

What?? If Sony sets the price at $250 or less expect absolute fukken annihilation next gen.

darthv724021d ago

is a nice price.

I wouldnt put it past both Sony and Ms to offer some sort of subsidized price model this time around.

morganfell4021d ago

PS4 combined with this: http://www.engadget.com/201...

I remember telling all of these people that 4K prices would drop and they just attacked me. Sony even said their 4K TVs will initially launch in a few weeks starting at $5000.

By Christmas 4K TVs will be $1000. That and a PS4 will be a sweetheart deal.

Army_of_Darkness4021d ago

Its just between affordable and too pricy but when you compare that to the prices of tablets it's a decent launch price.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4021d ago

Morganfell, why would you get a 4k tv? No games are going to natively support 4k. Hell going by the consoles specs it would be wishful thinking to even think we'll have games running 60fps 1080p.

Diver4021d ago

Get a 4k because of new Blurays that will show 4k since almost every movie in the past 50 yeas has been shot in a Res higher than 4k. Get a 4k for he super photo viewer on the PS4
Get a 4k because its only a matter of time till some come any does the 4k game dance. Besides morg was right peeps attacked an now look. Get a 4k ftw.

zeee4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

If both SONY and MS want to keep the costs down then they'll have to come up with some sort of subscription plan. But if they don't, we are looking at a $359 and $449 price window.

People expecting a $250 PS4 and Xbox 720 without a subscription plan are dreaming. I can only hope that their dreams come true but reality is that the price will be somewhere in the middle of PS2/Xbox 1/Dreamcast era and PS3/Xbox 360 era.

What I mean is that we'll be paying a bit more than we did back in the PS1 days but less than PS3/360 launch days.

BitbyDeath4021d ago

Could be wrong but I didn't think a 4K TV was meant to be as effective at a 50" size?

FamilyGuy4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

The lower the price, the more launch titles I can buy. I've put $600 aside for whatever the system cost and what evers left goes towards games, services and accessories.

I'm pretty sure it'll be around $350-$450 though.

thechosenone4021d ago

@Apollo

dude not that low maybe $300...but if it was, holy fak!

MikeMyers4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

ApolloTheBoss,
"What?? If Sony sets the price at $250 or less expect absolute fukken annihilation next gen."

For who, Sony? Why would a company in as much financial crisis as Sony want to come out with the PS4 that cost the same as the Vita and take that much of a loss per unit?

I have serious doubts Sony can price it at $299. It would be great if they could but seeing as how they can't really afford to even drop the Vita and the PS3 is still selling at $249 or higher chances are slim. I expect a basic PS4 for $399 and a pro model for $499.

DragonKnight4021d ago

The PS4 will not be cheaper than the Wii U. I am 99.99999999% certain of that.

Anon19744020d ago

I fully intend to keep PSN+ next gen, assuming it's available. If Sony offers a discounted PS4 for a PSN+ subscriber contract of some kind, I'd be all over that.

Gaming1014020d ago

The price will definitely not be less than 500 bucks for the highest end model. A low end model with a subscription is a possibility, I would never ever pay a subscription fee for a console, you'll easily make up that price after owning the console for 3 years or so.

nveenio4020d ago

I expect a PS3 price drop to $199 at E3, and the PS4 to launch at $399 and $499 SKUs.

Saigon4020d ago

@MikeMyers

If I am not mistaken ApolloTheBoss was referring to the subscription base planning.

We already speculate the PS4 to be around 350$ to about 450$ based on all the articles that have stated this and some popular Japanese magazines. Sony is going to be looking to sell two different version, one with the basic gaming platform and the other with the new PSeye. It would be nice if they somehow included PS+ into the equation by signing a subscription that would reduce the cost of the console.

This is all coming from the speculation that MS is doing with the Next Xbox. 500$ for the system at base price and 300$ for the system with subscription. We don't know what that subscription service is for, but it would be nice to include Live into the package, but most sources are referring to a cable based subscription.

ApolloTheBoss4020d ago

@Saigon

That's exactly what I was referring to. Just imagine how the casuals will react when they realize that they'll be getting a new game every month for free. People still don't realize how much money they will save if they subscribe to plus.

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Hingle_Mcringleberry4021d ago

Rumor has it Microsoft will have a subscription deal for next xbox, N4G reacts: greedy, money hungry buggers!! I wouldn't put it past them to swindle people out of their money! Disgusting!
Random guy suggests SONY might go subscription route to make console affordable: ZOMG!! Sony is gonna sell so many ps4 because they love us and they are kind and gentle with us! Oh wow what an amazemabombs idea!! Please let me have your babies sony!

Minato-Namikaze4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

You understand XBL and PS+ are too different services that serve different functions. (I hate the idea of that type of subscription either way.

Edit: I need to pay attention before i respond to the 1 bubble trolls *Facepalm @ myself*

HammadTheBeast4021d ago

Cause Sony doesn't make you pay to access half your game lol, it gives you 100+ games for $50. Along with Cloud saves, auto updates and invitations to beta, events and sometimes just random $10. Not to mention the cheap deals you can get with PS+.

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princejb1344021d ago

I'm assuming a $299-399 price point

Jaqen_Hghar4021d ago

A man doesn't see how you could expect a $300 system when the 500gb PS3 is still $300. A user does realize that is built from 7 year old tech and PS4 will be relatively new? Tech goes up in price when it's not that old and Sony already said every PS4 will pack a very large HDD.

princejb1344020d ago

@jahen

Ps3 uses cell processor which are custom built for Sony
Ps4 using computer parts= much cheaper

boldstarr4020d ago

Wow, for the price i can buy 2 console at launch, and preserve the other 1 untouch then 10 to 15 years from now the price of it maybe golden

Liefx4020d ago

I pay for Plus and don't plan on stopping anytime soon, so a package deal sounds good to me.

Denethor_II4020d ago

I paid £420 for my PS3, so as long as it's cheaper than that its all gravy.

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SethAFitzgerald4021d ago

It definitely won't be the $499 that people are saying. If I were to guess, $250 would be the sweet-spot.

Going with $150 or $200 might be too low, even if Sony wants to price the PS4 good, they still want to make money off of them.

Double_Oh_Snap4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

indeed, just a guess but either way if they subsidize with a subscription there looking at a lot more buyers.

ILive4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

I think $399 is the sweet spot. I would even say $450.

LOGICWINS4021d ago

Exactly what I said below. At $349, Sony would twist Nintendo's arm to the point that they'd have to significantly drop the Wii U's price.

SethAFitzgerald4021d ago

I agree, but if they introduce a subscription service which I have high hopes for, then the price could definitely be sub-$300.

Jek_Porkins4021d ago

Didn't the Vita launch at $249 and $299 respectively? You think the PS4 will launch for just $50 to $100 more?

I think we might see one PS4 SKU at $400, but there will probably be one more expensive. $400 isn't terrible though.

GribbleGrunger4021d ago

Sony says PS4 price will appeal to gamers “in the broadest sense”

If by that he means 'casuals' too, then I expect a lower price than people think.

Good_Guy_Jamal4021d ago

I see, when its suggested that Microsoft might sell their console for $300 then it's too cheap and won't be powerful.
When SONY says the console will be affordable in the broadest sense it's because it is a marketing strategy. Pretty much right?

I'm not saying you in particular Gribble so don't get excited, but a couple of people suggested the same about Microsoft in the $300 article but they were met with massive disagrees and criticism.

Kyosuke_Sanada4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

"I'm not saying you in particular Gribble so don't get excited, but a couple of people suggested the same about Microsoft in the $300 article but they were met with massive disagrees and criticism."

Welcome to N4g :D

GribbleGrunger4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Well, all fans of consoles get excitable at the drop of a hat. I've not discussed the pricing much to be honest, although I was thinking in the ballpark of $399. That phrase he used HAS made me consider lower though (if the starting point WAS $399 and no higher). Looking at the specs and considering the rumour that the camera is going to be included, I think that perhaps Sony have adjusted their strategy slightly. $250 - $299 doesn't seem out of the question if you offer a lower entry model WITHOUT the PSEye ... Although that would pose the question: but what would draw the casuals?

There is another way of looking at this though. IF Sony can make their services pay, especially Gaikai, and the revenue created from distribution through many none Sony branded hardware can more than offset the PS4 losses, then that would enable Sony to sell the hardware at a bigger loss because they would still benefit hugely from the services earnings. It's a riskier proposition for Sony. I suppose it depends on what partners they've already got and what devices are already in line for offering PSGaikai driven content.

It also offers devs a huge incentive to make exclusive content for Sony because their audience would be much bigger than just one console. This in turn could also help drive console sales which of course then offers even more service driven revenue.

thatsBangin4021d ago

If it bothers you that much then get counciling dude.
People get so defensive on here over nothing. Learn to let it go over your head!

MasterCornholio4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

"I see, when its suggested that Microsoft might sell their console for $300 then it's too cheap and won't be powerful. "

Depends if Microsoft includes Kinect with the 720 or not. Its essentially the same case with the Wii U with its weak hardware and its expensive controller.

But until the 720 is unveiled to the public we really dont know anything about it.

@porkchop

" The PS4 doesn't have that type of controller, so there's a lot of headroom left for better hardware at that price."

Yep but thats the price that people pay for gaming on such an expensive controller.

thebudgetgamer4021d ago

"I see, when its suggested that Microsoft might sell their console for $300 then it's too cheap and won't be powerful."

Please link me to anyone writing that, gotta be honest, I think your making stuff up.

MysticStrummer4021d ago

Can we please stop pretending only one side or another has fanboys? Please? Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, PC... They all have their share of hypocrites, and most of us play the same game from time to time, whether we actually believe what we're saying or are just trying to get under someone's skin and provoke a response.

OlgerO4021d ago

You should change your name to scumbag_Jamal

BitbyDeath4021d ago

Why even bring it up Jamal?
You realise your comments come off as trolling right? How is anyone meant to respond to it?

Rainstorm814021d ago

All I saw was you blowing one persons comment way out of proportion....maybe you need to ignore the fanboy/trolls when you get on this site it may make your stay more enjoyable.

Fact is nothing has been announced whatsoever about the Next Xbox, so to speculate on price Is borderline insane when we know nothing about it specs controller online service or otherwise .....besides..that article failed because it was BS anyway

FFXI1014020d ago

@Good_Guy_Jamal Why are you upset? People say a lot of things, you just continue to support the console or brand you love, doesn't matter what the rumors are. We will know by E3, if you don't like what you see you can always go with the other company's product.

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akaFullMetal4021d ago

Price might be 400 then, which is fine by me.

ABizzel14021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

I agree as well. $399 would be the bread and butter for the core. It's not going to cost anything less unless it's sold via a contract or subscription service, in which case it could be as low as $299 with a 1 year PS+ contract, or $199 with a 2 year contract, both of which would be a steal of a deal.

My guess is they're going to be contract based this go round, because it's the only way to hit a mass market appealing price Day 1, and on top of that when the contract expires people should be accustomed to PS+ so they're willing to pay for the $50 subscription or even upgrade to the Gaikai subscription.

Jaqen_Hghar4021d ago

A man would jump for joy at that 2 year contract since he is already subscribed to the end of 2014. He will be taken care of with free games and hopefully all the streaming services till 2016 and have his most anticipated console ever for $150 less than he predicted!

ABizzel14020d ago

@Jaqen

I know, people seem to be so against contracts these days, because I guess it's the new thing to hate, but there's nothing wrong with it if Sony goes this route. But I don't think it'll be $50 a year for PS+, but $10 a month, which would still be a great deal since it balances out to be $440 for the PS4 over a 2 year period.

It may be $249 + 2 year contract, since $199 and 2 years would be significantly cheaper than someone who pays $399 + $100 for 2 years of PS+, but still either way it's a great deal.

NastyLeftHook04021d ago

excellent , im posting all the ps4 news on facebook to help get the word to my friends so i can get them to buy one so i can own them all on battlefield 4.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6414d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long14d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197214d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer14d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2314d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218314d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades21d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken21d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades20d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii20d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit22d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos22d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9522d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia22d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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