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Is The Wii: U On The Brink Of Collapse?

Can Nintendo's home console sustain the blows next-gen consoles will inevitably fire upon it?

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Bumpmapping4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Wow how about we wait and see PS4/720 are not even out yet E3 right around the corner.I'll be picking one up my self for Zelda,Monoliths JPRG,other Nintendo first party offerings.

SOD_Delta4064d ago

It's a perfectly reasonable question. Third party publishers/developers are dropping support. I don't see the Wii-U being nearly as successful as the Wii. There's always next gen Nintendo...or not.

Good_Guy_Jamal4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Perfectly reasonable when aimed at nintendo, ask the same of the Vita which is currently doing worse and prepare to be lynched
Edit: @DarkHero. The Vita needed a price cut in Japan to change its fortunes for now and last I checked the Wii U is selling at a faster pace than the Vita did.

DarkHeroZX4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Actually that price cut in Japan has seemed to help boost vita sales. And last time I checked Vita was still above the wii U in total sales Jamal. Both are doing bad but recent events are beginning to help spring new life in the Vita.

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GamersRulz4064d ago

Nintendo really dropped the ball with WiiU. They were the company with most cash this gen, they just didn't care enough to build a really next gen system.

would it have hurt them to introduce a powerful next gen console?

maybe not, because imagine the WiiU w/ specs compared to PS4! it would've been a big threat to Sony/MS, it would still make devs happy and it would make Nintendo relevant. but they chose to increase their profit margin by introducing a 2006 console w/ a gimmick that didn't work.

and what about the stupid name? people still mix wiiU with wii, they should have called it something else, hell even Wii2 would have worked better for them.

Nintendo brought all that to themselves, they had the opportunity to dominate next gen. I even doubt that they did a proper market research before releasing the WiiU.

a_bro4063d ago (Edited 4063d ago )

They don't really need to have the most powerful next gen system, it could of been between Sony and Microsoft's systems in terms of power, but rather doing that, they released a system that is considered as "current gen", and that really turns 3rd party companies off.

And it's also stupid considering that they pretty much had the upper hand considering all the money they made with the wii. Right now, the 3ds is holding them together

But I don't think the system is dead in the water. It's happens to all systems that launch.

riverstars864063d ago

I agree, I own the Wii U but I am only playing Wii games on it. I view the Wii U as a failure on the hardware, software, and marketing front. Nintendo should honestly try to bring out a true next generation system for the 2015 holiday season.

cyhm31124063d ago

It is understandable though. Imagine yourself in Iwata's shoes. Wii have been a phenomenal success. They want to repeat that success with a low powered console with innovation or gimmick whatever you call it. They are not 100% sure it will succeed. But they ask themselves why release a powerful console when you can sell a cheaper one with some innovations like Wii. They want to take a bet and they fail this time. You know what? If they choose to produce a powerful machine like PS4 and they fail, that will be a disaster for them. They might think why change our strategy if it works?

madjedi4063d ago (Edited 4063d ago )

@cyhm3112 I don't think anyone expected it to be as high end as sony's is, but we were lead to believe it was going to be targeted at the core/hardcore gamer.

And have at least respectable hardware(near 7 yr old hardware isn't respectable), an online service and operating system designed for a 2012 generation console not a 2006 one.

And for nintendo to have done it's homework and be ready for making hd games before the console launched not after.

" They might think why change our strategy if it works?" It didn't work and now you have a almost worst case scenario.

The casuals don't want it and the guys wanting a next gen console, don't see a reason to buy another current gen console with a expensive controller. When for $50 more they can buy a console that is truly next gen.

herbs4063d ago

Time for your daily Nintendoom Sony fanboy circle jerk.

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OmegaSlayer4063d ago

E3 will be Nintendo's swansong.
The moment Assassin's Creed IV and WatchDogs will have PS4-WiiU graphic comparisons...it will be over.
Gamers who can afford the PS4/NextBox will buy the games for the new platforms and who has PS3/360 won't buy a WiiU to play the game.
WiiU is going to appeal only to Nintendo fans that in the very best case scenario (counting all the people who purchased Super Mario on Wii) are around 27 millions according to sales http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

jay24064d ago

Yes Nintendo have f**Ked up, they excaped in the none HD wii but now they havent

Benjaminkno4064d ago

You better hope so.

You want to see what collapse looks like?
I'd like to direct you to 'Vita' for further thoughts on your "analysis".

Just so you know, if Sony depended on video game sales alone, there would be no Ps4.

just sayin

RyuCloudStrife4063d ago

but if they depended on video games only they wouldn't have sold the PS3 at a loss and would have sold their soul to the casuals long ago, just like Nintendo did.

Good_Guy_Jamal4064d ago

Okay, now say that again but this time in English please. . .

LastXeno4064d ago

Am I getting sick of seeing these articles?

SilentNegotiator4064d ago

"Yeah, I'm SilentNegotiator with the Daily Sh**ty Article. Can you tell me if you're sick of seeing these articles? I'm writing an article on it."

mcstorm4063d ago

I agree. The Wiiu is selling better than the ps4 and next Xbox so im sure they are not doomed. Joking a side it seems every new console that comes out now is doomed. It was sais about the 360 then the Wii then the ps3 after that it was the 3ds and then the psv but now its the wiiu's turn.

Why do people really have to talk doom and gloom the Wiiu next Xbox and ps4 will all sell fine in there full life time sales and they will also all give us some of the best games we have ever played just like they have all done the gens before.

People need to stop saying mine is the best and support the industry all together because without the current 3 console makers we would not of just had one of the best gens in terms of quality games.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref3d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde3d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19723d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref3d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan3d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref3d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde3d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19723d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier3d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto3d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman3d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel10d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger889d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing9d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS9d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder8d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21838d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.