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The PS4 Could Be The Last Playstation You Buy

Gaming is changing in huge ways which we could not imagine were possible only seven years ago. The words "4K" "Cloud Gaming" "Asymmetrical gaming" run through our heads like buzzwords, spawning massive amounts of excitement in the press, and the consumer base. The title of this post might come to a shock to you, as you might think that I am talking about the end of the Playstation brand. Not at all, I am merely talking about its transcendence into a service rather than a physical box. I am talking about the reason Sony didn't show the PS4 at the reveal conference, because the ideology of "Playstation" is changing from a physical box, to a service that will span decades to come.

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Lucreto4069d ago

"I am talking about the reason Sony didn’t show the PS4 at the reveal conference, because the ideology of “Playstation” is changing from a physical box, to a service that will span decades to come."

or more valid reasons it they still don't have the final design finished yet or more than likely they are waiting for E3 to show it off.

GamersRulz4068d ago

They did that with PS2. but hey we had a PS3 and are waiting for PS4.

ATi_Elite4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Now when I said "PS4/X720 is the Last Gen for Consoles" and that No more boxes would be made and Sony/MS would be Content Providers/Publishers and you play games on whatever device you had through PSN/XboxLive, The whole world went Nuts and i got like 100 disagrees!

Good thing to see someone else is using their brain and thinking forward.

So yeh this is THE LAST CONSOLE GEN coming up and I use the word console vaguely cause these boxes are certified x86-64 Kernal PC's

I guess when More Manufactures start sticking PC's inside of TV's and cable boxes are Internet Ready then everyone who disagreed with me will see the Light of Day!

dcbronco4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

@ATI

You won't find too much forward thinking on this site. Just box living.

But will will always need new boxes of some kind. For control and the systems that drive them. You can't always have a 43 inch TV everywhere you go.

raWfodog4068d ago

I guess if people keep crying that each console will be the 'last' console eventually they'll be right. That's like saying that I'm gonna die 'one day'.

MikeMyers4068d ago

The hardware itself will become less and less focus as content is bought more and more online and services like Gaikai can be applied to various platforms.

Mounce4068d ago

This dude is clearly grasping at fucking straws and over-analyzing Sony simply not revealing a fucking plastic box. Really?

"We want to keep a few secrets up our sleeves, a box is a box" - Says Sony.

- This Article-guy - ITS A FUCKIN' CONSPIRACY MAAAAN!!! *TIN FOIL HAT*

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Nyromith4068d ago

No thanks, I prefer my console at home.

SugarSoSweet4068d ago

agreed at least then people can engage in trade of their PHYSICAL machines and software you can't do that with cloud gaming because THEY own all the software and hardware. It's just another way of getting money out the hands of the people and into the hands of big companies

GribbleGrunger4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Damn and blast! There goes my article.

I agree fully with the article and concur on every point. I too believe that Sony are moving focus from the hardware and are now moving into distribution and services. As this article rightly points out, any tech upgrades could simply be done server side, negating the reason to upgrade the hardware. Good article.

For people who just can't accept this future and constantly go on about broadband capabilities, think beyond yourselves. These are huge corporations and if they want something to happen they will make it happen, regardless of whether you want it or not. They do not need 100% perfect internet to everyone for this to work; they just need 70% of their potential audience to have a decent connection. Don't just write it off out of hand, give it some thought.

I wrote another article before the 20th called: 'PS3 not the biggest announcement at Playstation meeting' and this was to be my follow up article ... but unfortunately it's already been written.

MasterCornholio4068d ago

Imagine if every smart TV has access to Gaikai.

O.O

The infrastructure isnt there yet but when everyone has a super high speed internet connection this could become a possibility. Sony didnt just buy Gaikai for the PS4, they bought Gaikai for the future of cloud gaming once the infrastructure is in place.

Awesome-Xanto4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

I hate to break it to you but these huge corporations have zero control over that fact that the internet infrastructure is no where near capable of handling streaming services for even a majority of Sony fans. The internet is not getting better, it's getting worse with caps becoming the new norm. You can't stream games with a cap, because streaming games can burn more than 1 GB an hour.

Sony will surly use the technology for users who can use it as an added bonus to PSN+ but if you think they can do a full streaming device any times soon then you would be wrong. Doing so would surly be financial suicide.

Streaming technology is NOT better than physical/downloaded content. It takes away your rights as a consumer, it's image quality will always be worse than locally stored content, and input controls will always be worse than locally stored content do everything having to be sent back and forth over a connection.

Lets not forgot that there are many who will never use a streaming service and give up there right to own a game. It's the same reason the Sony can't block used games, it would significantly impact there sales.

Do you honestly want items you bought & paid money for tied to a company that will have full control over when you lose them and depended upon a cloud that is unreliable... meaning when it goes down you lose all access to all your games. Period.

That might be okay for you, but it's not for me...

MikeMyers4068d ago

Valve has enough support to show that being a digital platform can exists and be very profitable. We will see on the PS4 all games being available in digital form and a progression of the digital content taking over. Even now some games can only be bought through the Playstation store.

The PSP Go was a poorly executed system trying to go this route. With Gaikai Sony can leverage gamers more than ever to go digital.

Awesome-Xanto4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Sony probably will be successful with digital games and be profitable. However that is not what Gaikai is about. Gaikai is streaming.

Most people, like those who use Valve can download a 6 - 10 GB game because they know how much bandwidth there using. I love Valve.

Streaming does not store anything on the harddrive, and instead streams the game to you like Netflix does with movie. So instead of that one time 6 GB download for that new game you just bought, instead you going to stream it it everyday probably using more than 6 GB every time. So when you actually finished the game instead of 6GB, you've now burned over 100+ GB. It's not very efficient in terms of bandwidth compared to just downloading the game.

That is the problem with Gaikai, people don't understand the difference between streaming and downloading...

MikeMyers4068d ago

That is true but I was speaking hypothetically about how physical discs will be less and less of a focus moving forward. So whether you stream or download your games they will be through your online connection, not buying them at the retail outlets like Gamestop.

Mikelarry4068d ago

I don't mind if the ps4 is the last console so far as the content and functionality improves as time goes by

GribbleGrunger4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Yes. It always amazes me how many people can't seem to engage with an idea without thinking subjectively, as if in some way their own personal tastes are going to effect the momentum of a huge business. I remember a time when people never wanted CDs because vinyl was the real deal, and then I remember when people didn't want digital music because they wanted to own it on CDs. I remember a time when people complained at paying £58 for BBC TV because ALL TV should be free; the same people that now subscribe to Sky or Netflix as WELL as paying the licence fee for the BBC channels.

All change is uncomfortable

Clarence4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

I don't think so there will always be some kind of physical product. It might get smaller in size, but you will still have a physical product. 8 track, Records, beta max, VHS,laser disc, CDs, DVDs, bluray, all these have had some type of machine to play them on.

I'm taking courses on product design.

They didn't show the PS4 because the design can turn consumers off your product. Sony wants to make sure the design is as good as the services that they are offering.

One of the main reason I haven't bought the vita is because of the way it's design. It feels horrible when I hold it.

@susanto
Consoles offer certain exclusive games that PCs don't have. Have these people don't know anything about specs. Not every kid on the block will have a top of the line PC or is willing to put the time into building one. It's more convent to buy a console that delivers high end gaming right out the box.

You can go in certain neighborhoods right now and ask them what their gaming on, I bet you they won't say a PC. It's ether Playstation, Xbox, or Nintendo.

susanto12284068d ago

I can see myself turning PC 100% in the next generation
PC gamers are now turning their PC's into HTPC's connected
to 55" televisions with amazing graphics
with my I7 3770 and GTX 670 I am now enjoying graphics and
gameplay that the PS4 and new Xbox only wish they had.

JAM_brz4068d ago

If you have the money to buy a powerfull PC, yes, its better.
But I prefer to have a console, that was built only to play games, so a "lower" hardware doesn't mean a bad machine in that case. And I got the exclusives games, that in a PC I can't have. And the console it's so much cheaper than a PC, and I don't need to upgrade my console every two years...

So you can keep your PC, and I will keep my console..

saint_seya4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

I play in both, and yet i prefer ps3 games, i guess if it wasnt for league of legends and counters strike source/ bf3, i wouldnt play much my pc. Does it means that ps3 is better? no, does it means that u cant enjoy your pc more? no. What it means is that u can have the most powerfull gaming device in the world, but if the games u want to play #in my case ps3 exclusives# are not there, then is worthless for u. Graphical power doesnt mean nothing if u dont have the games u want.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6415d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long15d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197214d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer15d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2315d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218315d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades21d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken21d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades21d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii21d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit23d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos22d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9522d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia22d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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