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Is the PS4 Making the Same Mistakes as the Wii U?

As of now the only two 100 percent confirmed next-gen consoles are Sony’s PS4 and Nintendo’s Wii U. These two consoles are surly competing against one another although the big battle between Microsoft and Sony has yet to begin. It can be said that Nintendo has been making some huge mistakes over the past few years with their Wii and Wii U consoles. After a huge press conference confirming the PS4 is on its way, players immediately started comparing the two confirmed consoles. With the thought of the Wii U and how many mistakes have been made clear to the gaming community gamers are beginning to wonder if the PS4 will follow in its footsteps.

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ThatXboxGuy4073d ago

No.

Carry on folks, nothing to read here.

Saigon4073d ago

Granted the author did say 'No', but this title was a gimmick to get hits. Other than the ambiguous title, this article was a good read, pointed good points to why the Wii U is not living up to its potential and why the PS4 potential is growing. In my honest opinion, I believe the biggest mistake with the Wii U is the name itself. Should have called it something else to distinguish the systems.

theBAWSE4073d ago

Story quality wtf like this website NO

user39158004073d ago

Not the same for sure, just nearly identical, Are they twins?

ElectricKaibutsu4073d ago

From the article: "Now we ask ourselves, is Sony making these same mistakes with the PS4? The answer is a sure fire… NO! Sony is thankfully doing everything right so far with the announcements they have made regarding their upcoming console, the PS4."

LOL. Oh, it's one of these articles. Couldn't the author just put that line in the title?

Saigon4072d ago

@ElectricKaibutsu

Yeah that title was a little ridiculous...it was a hit factor.

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kingmushroom4073d ago

don't give the website hits its a joke

T24073d ago

Surly the consoles are competing against one another " ...So its surly , did you expect friendly competition? Lol

007Bond4073d ago

Please give this a read, don't let this P$ fanboy with a P$ logo as an avatar stop you.

DarkHeroZX4072d ago

No, ps4 is actually a next Gen console and not a "catch-up" to current Gen.

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ThatXboxGuy4073d ago

So why write this up and submit it?

NexGen4073d ago

Because this is probably his freshman year at high school and this is an assignment. It's written that way at least.

Zuperman4073d ago

The difference is the PS4 is a TRUE LEGITIMATE NEXT GEN system.

The Wii U Isn't. It's just an HD version of the Wii.

Steadyhndz4073d ago

You're completely right...but you know what amazes me, are the people who say PS4 isn't really next gen.

RyuCloudStrife4073d ago

they should have named it Wii HD Now.

Link0794073d ago

Over 200GB of fast Bandwidth RAM on WiiU's gpgpu and this is measured off the 70% of the gpgpu that we know of wiiu achieves high results because of expensive eDRAM.

PS4 has 174GB but compensates in main RAM ? simple,different approach same results both Nextgen,ENF OF.

720 is rumoured to have 100GB Bandwidth RAM,many times more than 360.

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edgeofsins4073d ago

HD Wii graphics would look terrible still. It isn't just higher definition. It is much more polygons and other more sophisticated graphical effects and animations.

IAmTheBest354073d ago

how is it just an hd version of the wii? the games are completely different.. and its not like its just upscaling wii games. it has its own original titles. i dont understand what you mean in your post. as the article said, two of the three next gen systems are known about. we are just waiting for a third. i dont know what world youre living in, but i would like some insight into whats going on in there.

ZombieNinjaPanda4073d ago

The fact that you get 30 agrees for saying this crap for some reason amazes me. It shouldn't though, you Sony Hivemind on n4g are relentless in your "opinions" (I use that term loosely) rooted in idiocy.

fsfsxii4072d ago

Wii U is the reason i bought my Wii 2 months ago

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Steadyhndz4073d ago

Why are people "Agreeing" with ^^^^ This guy (TheSuperior) he's the dude who wrote the article, put a title for you to click on, and then it was a waste of our time....Then in his own comments he says what we all think "No they're not making mistakes"....sigh

HiddenMission4073d ago

Exactly

I'm sorry people can't be bothered with reading your article. Also I have a new twitter account.

@ThatKansasguy and @NexGen
You too need to learn to read before commenting...

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NYC_Gamer4073d ago (Edited 4073d ago )

I believe Sony is way more prepared for the PS4 launch..Nintendo rushed themselves to the market with Wii-U without any solid type of plan and software...Nintendo doesn't fully understand what the Wii-U is supposed to be..

Indo4073d ago

Well said, Nintendo expected people to buy the Wii U just because its labeled Next-Gen. Eventhough Wii U came out first, it relied on many other factors besides great specs to sell. Wii U is good and all but didn't give what people wanted in a Next-Gen Wii console. Its still early to say anything bad about the Wii U, but I have my money on Sony to deliver the best for the PS4.

doublejj4073d ago

I cant agree with you more and the Wii U to me is a complete joke because yes it may be high definition but its just a Wii with high definition and i don't see the Wii U lasting too long in the market even though Nintendo has a boat load of cash they could've used that cash to produce a better system Nintendo you should be ashamed of yourselves. Sony ignore these stories as you are definitely not making a mistake and you are well prepared to tackle this game industry with ease and im on board with Sony.

nintendofeed4073d ago

I don't believe the Wii U made any mistakes? So, what mistakes is their for the PS4 to follow?

Steadyhndz4073d ago

There are a lot of mistakes in Nintendo's way of releasing the Wii U. For one it doesn't match up to what we have now even. It does in some ways, but in most it doesn't....but that's the thing it only matches up to what is soon going to be "Previous-gen".

Nintendo needed to step up its game with the Wii U and they didn't....also having Reggie as their spokesman was not a good idea. Claiming that the Wii U is more powerful than current gen (which is true to an extent but the majority of the population won't see it that way).

Overall the projection sales of the Wii U are about triple of what they actually are so far. Just have to wait and see how it compares this holiday season.

Blackdeath_6634073d ago (Edited 4073d ago )

how do you explain the lacklustre games library and the worst monthly sales figure in nintendo's history on January? releasing a console in the awkward gap between next gen and previous gen with specifications that struggle to beat that of consoles 7years older has to be the biggest mistake ever.

kenshiro1004073d ago

Nintendo needs to get back with their roots during Super Nintendo/N64 days. The WiiU really isn't cutting it. I actually want them to succeed but I'm not sure about the direction of their newest console right now.

Persistantthug4073d ago (Edited 4073d ago )

When you sell, trade, or give you Wii U away, when you get another, your whole account is gone, including everything you've purchased.

That's worse than a mistake.......
That's flippin incompetent.

Stroke6664073d ago

ok, for its plain stupid to say nintendo did something wrong cause its not how its competitor did it. second, it is more powerful than last gen period. the original projections were 5.5 when their sale hit 3.5 mil then halted they lowered thier projections to 4 mil which either way you splice it isn't triple anything. they still may not even make 4 mil the way things are going but watever. lackluster games are from third party devs everything nintendo put their hands on is great. all sony did was take the ps3 add more ram and a gpgpu. the processor is on with 8 cores rather than a build that acts as 8 processors which is the same shit just a different name.but the wii u is just an hd wii? really?!? dont get me wrong i like both the wii u (which i own) and the ps4(which when the price is right i will own) but people come up with the most stupid rationalizations. lastly if you sell or trade your system, then what good is it for you to retain all the shit on the console? now if your shit broke you can send it in to nintendo and they'll fix it up for you real nice like, but if you just want some extra cash or some store credit to buy the competitor then buy a used wii u system (which nintendo gets no cut of) then tough titties.

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Seraphemz4073d ago

This isnt about the Vita... nice tro--i mean try.

Blackdeath_6634073d ago (Edited 4073d ago )

the vita and the wiiU admittedly made the same mistakes but the difference is the vita can still be saved with the release of the ps4,gaikai services and a price drop. whereas the wiiu is not likely to show much improvement. besides vita is a handheld the wiiU is supposed to be nintendo's attempt at "next gen".

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot12h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack33m ago(Edited 32m ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke196h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke192h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf3h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor5h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave4h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor1h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke192h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai4h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris3h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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